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Petypet said:
A lot of programs east of the Rockies that are as or more solid that have taken DOs. Only a handful of programs, Vandy/Cinci/Pitt haven't had a DO yet. I never heard of Utah honestly before this discussion, where would it be in the likes of Cook County, Indiana, Hennepin, Emory, Maryland that everyone seems rave about. Utah is even middle of the road on Doximity (i know i know). Are there some people there I should be paying attention to research-wise? Or is it just because Utah is an old boys club that doesn't like DOs?
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Utah is such an inpressive match because of exactly how anti-DO they are. They are some of the more snobbish people I have ever met, in almost all of their residency programs.
 
AnatomyGrey12 said:
Utah is such an inpressive match because of exactly how anti-DO they are. They are some of the more snobbish people I have ever met, in almost all of their residency programs.
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Don't limit them to just their residency programs. The medical school and the undergraduate university are the same.
 
Petypet said:
A lot of programs east of the Rockies that are as or more solid that have taken DOs. Only a handful of programs, Vandy/Cinci/Pitt haven't had a DO yet. I never heard of Utah honestly before this discussion, where would it be in the likes of Cook County, Indiana, Hennepin, Emory, Maryland that everyone seems rave about. Utah is even middle of the road on Doximity (i know i know). Are there some people there I should be paying attention to research-wise? Or is it just because Utah is an old boys club that doesn't like DOs?
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It seems like only ppl from Utah raves about that program. It may be a great program that no one pays attention to, but it surely isn't a powerhouse or else SDNers would be lining up there like Denver. The only thing I like about Utah is that WCI lives there. Other than that, yeah.
AnatomyGrey12 said:
Utah is such an inpressive match because of exactly how anti-DO they are. They are some of the more snobbish people I have ever met, in almost all of their residency programs.
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I'd be so impress to any DO matched at Vandy EM. They straight up say that they will not interview a DO. Even if you do an away there, get an honor, they would not rank you regardless.
 
kenjixshadow said:
It seems like only ppl from Utah raves about that program. It may be a great program that no one pays attention to, but it surely isn't a powerhouse or else SDNers would be lining up there like Denver. The only thing I like about Utah is that WCI lives there. Other than that, yeah.

I'd be so impress to any DO matched at Vandy EM. They straight up say that they will not interview a DO. Even if you do an away there, get an honor, they would not rank you regardless.
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True. But i wonder how that guy from pcom broke that rule with the dept of plastic surgery at UPenn.


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navigator said:
Utah has five of the nicest national parks in the country, plus some of the nicest geology. Not medicine related, but I'd say it's a pretty sweet place to live.
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This is definitely what I look for in a place I want to live. Bad rocks, count me out.
 
PHILADELPHIA COLLEGE OF OSTEOPATHIC MEDICINE 2016 Residency List – Philadelphia

Campus Anesthesiology (13)
Cooper Hospital-University Med Ctr
Georgetown University Hospital
Heart of Lancaster Regional Med Ctr
Hershey Medical Center/Penn State
Jackson Memorial Hosp
Rush University Medical Center
Thomas Jefferson University (3)
Univ of Connecticut School of Med
Univ of Massachusetts Medical School
University of Texas Medical School
West Virginia University SOM
Child Neurology (1)
St. Christopher's Hospital
Emergency Medicine (23)
Albert Einstein Medical Center
Aria Health
Case Western/MetroHealth Med Ctr/Cleveland Clinic
Conemaugh Memorial Medical Center
Coney Island Hospital
Crozer-Chester Medical Center (2)
Inspira Health Network (4)
Jacobi Medical Center/Einstein
Kennedy Univ Hosp/Our Lady of Lourdes (2)
Kent Hospital (2)
Lehigh Valley Health Network (2)
Medical College of Georgia at Georgia Regents University*
NYMC-Metropolitan Hospital St. Luke's Hospital (2)
York Hospital
Family Medicine (51)
Abington Memorial Hospital (2) Aria Health (3) Christiana Care Health System (2) Crozer-Chester Medical Center (2) Darnall Army Medical Center* Duke University Medical Center-NC Eglin AFB* Family Medicine (con’t) Floyd Medical Center Ft. Collins Family Medicine Inspira Health Network (2) Lancaster General Hospital Lankenau Medical Center Lower Bucks Hospital (2) LSUHSC Lake Charles Mercy Suburban Naval Hospital Campu Lejeune* Naval Hospital Jacksonville* New Hanover Regional Med Ctr NYP Hospital-Columbia Univ Med Ctr PCOM/Good Samaritan Hospital (2) PCOM/Mercy Suburban Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine Pinnacle Health Community Genl Hosp Plainview Hospital Reading Hospital and Med Ctr (2) Scott AFB/St. Louis Univ Belleville* (2) South Nassau Communities Hosp St. Francis Hospital St. Joseph's Medical Center (4) St. Louis University SOM St. Luke's Hospital (2) Univ of Texas at Austin Dell Med School UPMC Shadyside Hospital (2) Williamsport Family Med Residency Williamsport Hospital Wright Center for GME Family Medicine/Psychiatry (1) University of Cincinnati Medical Center
General Surgery (7)
Geisinger
Wyoming Valley
Greenville Health Sys/Univ of S Carolina
Hershey Medical Center/Penn State
Naval Medical Center San Diego*
Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine
Pinnacle Health Community General Hos St. Luke's Hospital
Internal Medicine (68)
Alameda Health System-Highland Hosp Albert Einstein Medical Center Allegheny Health Network Medical Education (2) Aria Health (5) Baystate Medical Center Camden Clark Medical Center Christiana Care Health System (2) Danville Regional Medical Center Drexel Univ COM/Hahnemann University Hospital Geisinger Health System (2) Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center Heart of Lancaster Regional Medical Center Indiana University School of Medicine Inspira Health Network (2) Kennedy Univ Hosp/Our Lady of Lourdes (5) Kent Hospital Lankenau Medical Center (2) Lehigh Valley Health Network (3) MedStar Franklin Square Medical Center Mercy Catholic Medical Center (4) Millcreek Community Hospital North Broward Hospital District Northside Hospital & Heart Institute NYU Lutheran Medical Center Ohio Valley Medical Center (2) Orange Regional Medical Center Palisades Medical Center (2) Parkview Medical Center Pennsylvania Hospital PHH/Hemet Valley Medical Center Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine (6) Rowan SOM/CarePoint Health - Bayonne Medical Center (2) San Antonio Military Center* St. Luke's Hospital (2) Suburban Community Hospital Temple University Hospital Walter Reed National Military Medical Center (3)* Wright Center for GME (2) Internal Med-Emergency Med(2) Aria Health (2) Internship (21) Allegheny Health Network Medical Education Delaware County Memorial Hospital Eastern Connecticut Health Network Inspira Health Network (2) Madgian Army Medical Center* Mercy Catholic Medical Center Naval Medical Center Portsmouth* NYCOMEC/South Nassau Communities Hospital O'Bleness Memorial Hospital Palisades Medical Center (4) Peconic Bay Medical Center Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine Rowan SOM San Antonio Military Center* University Hospital - Richmond Medical Center UPMC Altoona Westchester General Hospital Medicine-Pediatrics (2) Christiana Care Health System Newark Beth Israel Medical Center
Medicine-Preliminary (1)
Drexel Univ COM/Hahnemann University Hospital
Neurology (3)
Albert Einstein Medical Center
Ohio State University Medical Center
Rhode Island Hosp/Brown University

Neuromusculoskeletal Medicine-OMT (3)
Greenbrier Valley Medical Center
Mercy Health
St. Barnabas Hospital
Obstetrics & Gynecology (11)
Albert Einstein Medical Center Drexel Univ COM/Hahnemann University Hospital Inspira Health Network (2) Lankenau Medical Center Monmouth Medical Center NY Methodist Hospital Obstetrics & Gynecology (con’t) Reading Hospital and Medical Center Walter Reed National Military Medical Center* Womack Army Medical Center* Wright-Patterson Air Force Base*

Ophthalmology (2)
Geisinger Medical Center
Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine
Orthopedic Surgery (4)
Inspira Health Network
Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine (2)
Pinnacle Health Community General Hospital
Otolaryngology & Facial Plastic Surg (1)
Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine
Pathology (1)
University of New Mexico SOM
Pediatrics (25)
Albert Einstein Medical Center Atlantic Health System Carilion Clinic-Virginia Tech Carilion SOM Childrens Hospital-NEOMED Coney Island Hospital Cooper Hospital-University Medical Center Crozer-Chester Medical Center (2) Detroit Wayne County Health Authority Geisinger Health System (2) Jefferson Med Coll/duPont Childrens (2) Lehigh Valley Hospital Loyola Univ Med Ctr-IL Maimonides Medical Center Maine Medical Center NYP Hospital-Weill Cornell Medical Center Palm Beach Consortium for GME St. Christopher's Hospital (3) Stony Brook Children's at Stony Brook University Hospital University of Connecticut School of Medicine (2)
Plastic Surgery (1)
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania

Physical Medicine & Rehab(4)
Baylor College Medicine
Thomas Jefferson University (3)
Psychiatry (4)
Albert Einstein Medical Center (2) Community Health of South Flordia Geisinger Health System
Radiology-Diagnostic (2)
Geisinger Health System Temple University Hospital
Radiology-Oncology (1)
Temple University/Fox Chase Cancer Center Surgery

Preliminary (2)
Travis AFB/UC Davis* University of California - Irvine Medical Center


Philadelphia Campus 2016 Military Residency List
Emergency Medicine (1)
Medical College of Georgia at Georgia Regents University*
Family Medicine (6)
Darnall Army Medical Center*
Eglin AFB* Naval Hospital Camp Lejeune*
Naval Hospital Jacksonville*
Scott AFB/St. Louis Univ Belleville* (2)
General Surgery (1)
Naval Medical Center San Diego*
Internal Medicine (4)
San Antonio Military Center*
Walter Reed National Military Med Ctr* (3)
Internship (3)
Madgian Army Medical Center*
Naval Medical Center Portsmouth*
San Antonio Military Center*
Obstetrics & Gynecology (3)
Walter Reed National Military Med Ctr*
Womack Army Medical Center*
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base*
Surgery Preliminary (1)
Travis AFB/UC Davis*

Rad Onc at Fox Chase (http://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/area/pa/fox-chase-cancer-center-6231660/cancer) and Plastics at UPENN!!
 
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Camaxtli said:
I can't tell if you are trying to say that the upenn match didn't happen? That was for the 2015-2016 year the match is for the 2016-2017 year.

Here it is on Upenn's website. Congrats Michael!!!

http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/surgery/clinical/cat_interns.html
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Must've scored a 325 on Step 1.

But in all seriousness, pretty awesome.

Edit: apparently did a Clinical Research Fellowship last year with the same program. Didn't match last year (?), and took the route to get a foot in the door, I guess. Persistence pays off.
 
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HotLunch96 said:
Must've scored a 325 on Step 1.

But in all seriousness, pretty awesome.

Edit: apparently did a Clinical Research Fellowship last year with the same program. Didn't match last year (?), and took the route to get a foot in the door, I guess. Persistence pays off.
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Or he took a research year off in order to be competitive enough to get there. I know a few people that have done that and its paid off for them.
 
hallowmann said:
Or he took a research year off in order to be competitive enough to get there. I know a few people that have done that and its paid off for them.
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I was under the impression that this is relatively common for competitive specialties.
 
HotLunch96 said:
Must've scored a 325 on Step 1.

But in all seriousness, pretty awesome.

Edit: apparently did a Clinical Research Fellowship last year with the same program. Didn't match last year (?), and took the route to get a foot in the door, I guess. Persistence pays off.
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I don't know him! I met a couple 4th years but he graduated last year. Clearly he was a great student.
 
CleganeBowlis4Real said:
I was under the impression that this is relatively common for competitive specialties.
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Its common in the ultra competitive fields. I've seen people do it in Derm, ENT, and RadOnc. Have not seen people do it in things like Uro, Ortho, Ophtho. Research is one thing, but spending an extra year doing nothing but research in one field is NOT a common thing people do when they're gunning for relatively competitive specialties, its more like something they do when they are gunning for ultra competitive fields at a specific program.
 
hallowmann said:
Its common in the ultra competitive fields. I've seen people do it in Derm, ENT, and RadOnc. Have not seen people do it in things like Uro, Ortho, Ophtho. Research is one thing, but spending an extra year doing nothing but research in one field is NOT a common thing people do when they're gunning for relatively competitive specialties, its more like something they do when they are gunning for ultra competitive fields at a specific program.
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Can't speak for ortho for sure but I know multiple US MDs who took a research year between 3rd and 4th year who were going into Uro and ophtho. Certainly happens in the first 3 you mentioned as well (probably ortho too). It's more common than you think.

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DopaDO said:
Can't speak for ortho for sure but I know multiple US MDs who took a research year between 3rd and 4th year who were going into Uro and ophtho. Certainly happens in the first 3 you mentioned as well (probably ortho too). It's more common than you think.

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I guess it depends on your definition of common. The people I know are a mix of MD and DO. ~85% of MDs finish in 4 yrs. So that 15% is made up of the 3-5% that never finish, a probably sizeable number that get delayed and extend graduation for academic (failing a board, rotations, or classes) and personal reasons, those that fail to match and extend graduation, and a number of individuals that take a research year. Basically its in the low single digits. I think the last report I saw mentioned ~3% or maybe a bit more of MDs take an LOA for non-degree research.

The people I know wanted a very specific program, so they did research for a year at that program, and they ultimately matched there. It is something that people in that situation commonly do.
 
DopaDO said:
Can't speak for ortho for sure but I know multiple US MDs who took a research year between 3rd and 4th year who were going into Uro and ophtho. Certainly happens in the first 3 you mentioned as well (probably ortho too). It's more common than you think.

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Yep, have a friend from undergrad who went MD, did the research year after graduation to buff the resume before applying to Ortho. He's an ortho resident now.

I also have another two friends who went straight into Ortho so I don't know if the one who did the research year had a less competitive CV perhaps.
 
hallowmann said:
Or he took a research year off in order to be competitive enough to get there. I know a few people that have done that and its paid off for them.
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That's probably more likely. Guess it didn't occur to me.
 
hallowmann said:
Or he took a research year off in order to be competitive enough to get there. I know a few people that have done that and its paid off for them.
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There have been a handful of DOs obtain neurosurgery positions this way as well. Also, I know of another integrated plastic match who was the same. I say kudos to them for taking the risk of doing a year of research and hoping. I don't think I could do that.
 
Many MD applicants do research years as well. It's a great application boost and isn't really a "risk."
 
Cubsfan10 said:
There have been a handful of DOs obtain neurosurgery positions this way as well. Also, I know of another integrated plastic match who was the same. I say kudos to them for taking the risk of doing a year of research and hoping. I don't think I could do that.
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Yeah, I definitely agree. They went after what they wanted, and I'm sure it was worth it for them. I don't think I could do it either.
 
simbad8 said:
GAPCOMs list... Pretty solid IMO (or maybe I'm just biased 😛)
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As an incoming PCOM GA student this list is nice to see. I'm curious as to the 16 internships positions taken. Can anyone explain what these are and if it is a negative or a positive?
 
C3H6O3 said:
As an incoming PCOM GA student this list is nice to see. I'm curious as to the 16 internships positions taken. Can anyone explain what these are and if it is a negative or a positive?
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It can either positive or negative. Some of these students may be applying to dermatology where they have to do a traditional internship first, so I would consider these matches a positive. Also, some people still aren't really sure what they want to do and can use an extra year to figure it out. I would consider this a positive as well.

On the other hand, some people who didn't match into their desired specialty took one of the traditional internship spots because it is better than doing nothing at all or for them it is better than doing research. I suppose you can still consider it a positive for the student, but it is a negative in the sense that they didn't match what they wanted. I would imagine most students that match a traditional internship didn't match into what they applied for and took one of the spots because having a job is better than no job at all.
 
Mbeas said:
It can either positive or negative. Some of these students may be applying to dermatology where they have to do a traditional internship first, so I would consider these matches a positive. Also, some people still aren't really sure what they want to do and can use an extra year to figure it out. I would consider this a positive as well.

On the other hand, some people who didn't match into their desired specialty took one of the traditional internship spots because it is better than doing nothing at all or for them it is better than doing research. I suppose you can still consider it a positive for the student, but it is a negative in the sense that they didn't match what they wanted. I would imagine most students that match a traditional internship didn't match into what they applied for and took one of the spots because having a job is better than no job at all.
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If you are going for something that requires an intern year, don't you apply to both the intern year and the pg2 program at the same time? Most match lists I have seen lists them right after each other. If I am not mistaken on that, that means that most people with just an intern year probably failed to match their desired specialty.
 
CleganeBowlis4Real said:
If you are going for something that requires an intern year, don't you apply to both the intern year and the pg2 program at the same time? Most match lists I have seen lists them right after each other. If I am not mistaken on that, that means that most people with just an intern year probably failed to match their desired specialty.
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If you apply AOA, then you have to apply separately. So, you apply as a MS4 and PGY-1.

If you apply ACGME, you apply at the same time. Once as a MS4.
 
Mbeas said:
If you apply AOA, then you have to apply separately. So, you apply as a MS4 and PGY-1.

If you apply ACGME, you apply at the same time. Once as a MS4.
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Good to know. Any idea how that will work with the merger and eventual combined match?
 
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Cubsfan10 said:
Cleveland clinic and UPMC are the best a DO can do in rads so far.


At Cleveland Clinic,
IM is considered mid-upper tier (there's a lot of programs total)

Surgical subspecialties are all top 10-15 (urology is considered one of the top in the nation)

Path, rads, and anesthesia are solidly top 20.

IM and peds are probably the "worst" programs at CCF due to the high number of fellows and such. Well, besides EM which they partner with Metro downtown so it's not even really their program.

But, honestly if you can get a top 20ish hospital as a DO, I'd say that's pretty good.
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Where are you getting these ranking numbers? I don't want to disparage another program but cleveland clinic definitely not a top anesthesiology program

Also that integrated plastics guy did a year as a clinical research fellow at penn after graduating. I'm assuming he didn't match as a graduating student but made solid connections and earned a great match
 
Psai said:
Where are you getting these ranking numbers? I don't want to disparage another program but cleveland clinic definitely not a top anesthesiology program

Also that integrated plastics guy did a year as a clinical research fellow at penn after graduating. I'm assuming he didn't match as a graduating student but made solid connections and earned a great match
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The anesthesia comment came from a combination of 3 of my anesthesia friends ( 2 MD and 1 DO) and doximity has them at like 15th or something. Granted people hate doximity but I felt safe saying it's top 20 or so.
 
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It's not even the best anesthesiology program in cleveland. I can think of least 40 programs that I would comfortably put above it. Doximity shouldn't be used at all in evaluating residency programs. A high ranking there means that the program was able to get a lot of their people to vote for it, nothing more. At least usnews pretends to have a methodology. Doximity has none
 
Psai said:
It's not even the best anesthesiology program in cleveland. I can think of least 40 programs that I would comfortably put above it. Doximity shouldn't be used at all in evaluating residency programs. A high ranking there means that the program was able to get a lot of their people to vote for it, nothing more. At least usnews pretends to have a methodology. Doximity has none
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A little research into the topic would do you some good.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.doximit...ty_Residency_Navigator_Survey_Methodology.pdf

For your edification only, let's please not have this drag the thread off topic.
 
DetectiveAlonzo said:
Lol dude matched anesthesia but still getting ****ted on cause it's not the "top" program.

Only on SDN.
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That's not the case at all, he even said he didn't want to disparage the program. I'm pretty sure he's going into gas and is just correcting what @Cubsfan10 said because he's familiar with the different prestige of the programs in the sub-specialty
 
DetectiveAlonzo said:
Lol dude matched anesthesia but still getting ****ted on cause it's not the "top" program.

Only on SDN.
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Because Medicare will reimburse him at a reduced rate based on his program rank during PGY-1, the percentage of non-USMDs in his program, and the number of three-star Michelin restaurants in China.
 
I mean I asked 3 of my anesthesia friends and you are 1 person. I honestly don't know because I'm not in anesthesia but what are you basing your info on? Sounds like we both just have people's opinions. But whatever, just proving my point that people dump on cleveland clinic all the time.
 
Cubsfan10 said:
I mean I asked 3 of my anesthesia friends and you are 1 person. I honestly don't know because I'm not in anesthesia but what are you basing your info on? Sounds like we both just have people's opinions. But whatever, just proving my point that people dump on cleveland clinic all the time.
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By interviewing at top programs and talking to other top applicants, none of which applied to Cleveland Clinic. Cleveland clinic's internal medicine residency is not very well respected either

Also to the guy who is obsessed with doximity, your link says that their ranking is based off a survey, which is basically a popularity contest like I said. I understand you have a vested interest but a program that needs to soap...lol

You should be proud of good matches at your school but don't pretend like a mediocre match is the next coming of osler
 
That guy that matched into Plastics at Penn is a complete stud... That's the match to beat this year for osteopathic students. However, matching into anesthesiology at Cleveland, or even family practice at Arrowhead - these are all commendable accomplishments.

Not everyone cares about matching to the best place. Rank lists are formed with way too many variables and prestige is rarely the top factor for MD and DO applicants.

If you really care about prestige, work hard, build connections, and do some great research. The sky isn't the limit but you might surprise yourself and you'll most likely go on to have a great, fulfilling career. Let's talk about the positives, instead?
 
navigator said:
Let's talk about the positives, instead?
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What? This is the match list thread of the osteopathic page in SDN. This is where we bash people for matching anesthesiology at Harvard because "it's a dying field" or the derm match at UMass because "no one needs botox in freezing Worcester, he will end up making minimum wage."
 
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