Match List 2016

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NurWollen said:
For what it's worth, a student from AZCOM matched into anesthesia at Utah this year. I don't think he's the first DO there and that's one of the more DO friendly specialties, but I think it's still worth a nice round of applause.
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Do you have AZCOM's match list for this year? Thanks!
 
oznefu said:
Do you have AZCOM's match list for this year? Thanks!
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Yeah... here you go.
And I have to apologize. I don't see the Utah anesthesiology match on there. I'd heard about it from a classmate but it looks like I can't confirm. This should be a pretty comprehensive list.
 

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NurWollen said:
Yeah... here you go.
And I have to apologize. I don't see the Utah anesthesiology match on there. I'd heard about it from a classmate but it looks like I can't confirm. This should be a pretty comprehensive list.
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ACGME Uro, nice.
 
NurWollen said:
Yeah... here you go.
And I have to apologize. I don't see the Utah anesthesiology match on there. I'd heard about it from a classmate but it looks like I can't confirm. This should be a pretty comprehensive list.
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What does it mean when they take a PGY1 position in Surgery, Preliminary and then the PGY2 says a second specialty? Does that mean they have both programs lined up?
 
TheaterOfTheme said:
What does it mean when they take a PGY1 position in Surgery, Preliminary and then the PGY2 says a second specialty? Does that mean they have both programs lined up?
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it means they've matched into both specialties, but I'm not sure if they are also double counted under their main specialty elsewhere on the list.
 
NurWollen said:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it means they've matched into both specialties, but I'm not sure if they are also double counted under their main specialty elsewhere on the list.
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I don't think they are because of the optho match in PGY2 as there isn't any other optho on the list.
 
Docinabox10 said:
You read that one wrong.
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Go look at the prelim surg matches. To the right they have their pgy-2 spots if applicable. The one for Michigan state says urological surgery.

Edit: Unless it is the same student that matched AOA surgery. But I don't know why they would put it that way
 
AnatomyGrey12 said:
Go look at the prelim surg matches. To the right they have their pgy-2 spots if applicable. The one for Michigan state says urological surgery.

Edit: Unless it is the same student that matched AOA surgery. But I don't know why they would put it that way
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It was an AOA program. It just got acgme initial accred. it was. DO match not AUA urology.
 
AnatomyGrey12 said:
Go look at the prelim surg matches. To the right they have their pgy-2 spots if applicable. The one for Michigan state says urological surgery.

Edit: Unless it is the same student that matched AOA surgery. But I don't know why they would put it that way
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Are you a current DO student? Because you seem to be in literally every thread in this forum but are still registered as a "pre-medical." Just trying to establish some ethos.
 
I'm still pre-med, I'm applying this cycle. I just post I see fit, irregardless of forum. I do have a lot more insight than 90% of pre-med posters though. I don't just spew out my rear.
Ioannes Paulus said:
Are you a current DO student? Because you seem to be in literally every thread in this forum but are still registered as a "pre-medical." Just trying to establish some ethos.
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anybody have advice on matching ACGME family med, with comlex scores only?
 
I'm thinking the NMS match will be substantially smaller next year...
 
user3 said:
I'm thinking the NMS match will be substantially smaller next year...
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At the risk of sounding too optimistic, if a program hasn't already applied and received pre-accreditation, it doesn't make sense for them to switch over to the ACGME match this cycle. It takes several months to receive initial accreditation, at which point they can make the switch. However, the application process for the class of 2017 starts in a few months. If they switch part way into the application cycle not only will they potentially lose stronger DO students who may not want to reapply through the ACGME match after getting enough interviews, but their new applicant pool will likely consist of very low-tier (and likely a lot of foreign) MDs, since competitive MDs will have already submitted their applications and are less likely to apply if they're also already getting a lot of interviews.
The exception might be in very small and competitive specialties.
 
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GUH said:
At the risk of sounding too optimistic, if a program hasn't already applied and received preliminary accreditation, it doesn't make sense for them to switch over to the ACGME match this cycle. It takes several months to receive initial accreditation, at which point they can make the switch. However, the application process for the class of 2017 starts in a few months. If they switch part way into the application cycle not only will they potentially lose stronger DO students who may not want to reapply through the ACGME match after getting enough interviews, but their new applicant pool will likely consist of very low-tier (and likely a lot of foreign) MDs, since competitive MDs will have already submitted their applications and are less likely to apply if they're also already getting a lot of interviews.
The exception might be in very small and competitive specialties.
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numerous programs have already received initial accreditation. also, a large portion of NMS participants were already dual-accredited and I imagine most of those will just switch their existing NMS/DO spots to NRMP.
 
user3 said:
numerous programs have already received initial accreditation. also, a large portion of NMS participants were already dual-accredited and I imagine most of those will just switch their existing NMS/DO spots to NRMP.
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I've asked a few dual-accredited PDs and aPDs about this, and they have all said that they intend to stay in both matches for as long as they both exist (they predicted through 2018). They may actually lose by leaving the AOA match, because they could just convert their AOA spots that don't fill to NRMP spots if they are approved for expansion. If they all switched to NRMP they'd lose a population of students that are only applying AOA.

One or two programs, whose PDs I haven't talked to, seem as though they may switch to the NRMP (doing suspicious things and making vague public statements about their plans). They are also affiliated with an institution that is known to be DO unfriendly and as far as I see it only retained AOA accreditation because they were worried about attracting enough AMGs. One IM program in that university solved that by eliminating the affiliate's program and merging it with the home university program, but calling it a separate "track". The affiliate used to get 4 DOs, 2 US MDs and 2 IMGs on average, but I wouldn't be surprised if this year's class is composed of all US MDs. We'll see.
 
hallowmann said:
I've asked a few dual-accredited PDs and aPDs about this, and they have all said that they intend to stay in both matches for as long as they both exist (they predicted through 2018). They may actually lose by leaving the AOA match, because they could just convert their AOA spots that don't fill to NRMP spots if they are approved for expansion. If they all switched to NRMP they'd lose a population of students that are only applying AOA.

One or two programs, whose PDs I haven't talked to, seem as though they may switch to the NRMP (doing suspicious things and making vague public statements about their plans). They are also affiliated with an institution that is known to be DO unfriendly and as far as I see it only retained AOA accreditation because they were worried about attracting enough AMGs. One IM program in that university solved that by eliminating the affiliate's program and merging it with the home university program, but calling it a separate "track". The affiliate used to get 4 DOs, 2 US MDs and 2 IMGs on average, but I wouldn't be surprised if this year's class is composed of all US MDs. We'll see.
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I was hoping this wouldn't be the case. The AOA has even encouraged programs to switch to the NRMP match only as soon as they can.

I'd hate to have to weigh skipping over my hypothetical #1 in order to have the best shot at my hypothetical #2-X. Oh well. I guess that's the choice generations of DOs have had to make before us, so I can't complain too much.
 
futuredrdo said:
anybody have advice on matching ACGME family med, with comlex scores only?
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I had no problem getting acgme only invites with very average scores. I don't think I applied to any aoa family programs. I even got some invites to some academic places with specific tracks I was interested in. I think family practice is similar to many DO schools in that they do look at the whole package and not just scores. I could tell interviewers had read my personal statement in depth and appreciated the unique attributes of my application outside of my scores. It was a very different experience than my ob/gyn interviews.
 
NurWollen said:
I was hoping this wouldn't be the case. The AOA has even encouraged programs to switch to the NRMP match only as soon as they can.

I'd hate to have to weigh skipping over my hypothetical #1 in order to have the best shot at my hypothetical #2-X. Oh well. I guess that's the choice generations of DOs have had to make before us, so I can't complain too much.
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Yeah, I'm actually feeling the same way. Like half of my pre-applying top 10 are dual-accredited programs. Maybe our interviews will make the decision for us, but I don't know at this point.
 
hallowmann said:
They may actually lose by leaving the AOA match, because they could just convert their AOA spots that don't fill to NRMP spots if they are approved for expansion. If they all switched to NRMP they'd lose a population of students that are only applying AOA.
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..... they would stick around for the ~1000 "AOA only" applicants, and intentionally block the ~40,000+ ACGME applicants?

I believe that programs told you they are staying in the AOA match, but its for damn sure not a "numbers" thing.
 
WeeBay said:
..... they would stick around for the ~1000 "AOA only" applicants, and intentionally block the ~40,000+ ACGME applicants?

I believe that programs told you they are staying in the AOA match, but its for damn sure not a "numbers" thing.
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How would they be blocking the 40,000 ACGME applicants? They are in both matches. They've already interviewed everyone (DO and MD) by the time of rank list submission. They know exactly who is applying and how many in each match by then. So why exactly would they exclude 1000 people from applying to them by only participating in the ACGME match?

Maybe you missed the part where we were talking about dual-accredited programs.
 
AlteredScale said:
IM at Montefiore and Thoracic Surg at UC Davis. Great job!

Path at stanford is great, might be their first DO.


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How competative are matches at like UC-I for IM or UCSF-Fresno for gen surg? Or UT southwestern for neurology? Just curious here
 
AnatomyGrey12 said:
How competative are matches at like UC-I for IM or UCSF-Fresno for gen surg? Or UT southwestern for neurology? Just curious here
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Can't speak for neurology but UCI used to be pretty DO unfriendly however I believe they have several DOs in the medicine program now. ACGME surgery is always harder for DOs so matching at Fresno is still a major accomplishment. They may not be top programs in their respective specialties BUT given the difficulty that DOs have had at these institutions they are competitive in their own right.
 
AnatomyGrey12 said:
How competative are matches at like UC-I for IM or UCSF-Fresno for gen surg? Or UT southwestern for neurology? Just curious here
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Seems like UC Irvine and UCSF Fresno consistently accept a few DO's into their IM program but no doubt they are hard to get into simply because they are on the west coast!
 
AlteredScale said:
Seems like UC Irvine and UCSF Fresno consistently accept a few DO's into their IM program but no doubt they are hard to get into simply because they are on the west coast!
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Not so sure about UCSF-Fresno being extremely difficult to match into. They have a lot of DOs and IMGs/FMGs in their program, from what I have seen on their current resident roster.

http://www.fresno.ucsf.edu/internal/juniors.html
 
vl0913 said:
When you can't pronounce >50% of the names easily...


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Ouch.

I kind of face palmed when I saw one guy who was born the in US, but directly went to an Indian medical school straight from high school.
 
Not trying to stir the pot.
 
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Teioh said:
That Cardiothoracic surg match looks awesome, and even more so as it looks like they only take one resident per year? Last year the position was awarded to a LECOM grad. Two DO's in back to back years is nice, but what does that say about the desirability of the position? It seems off that such an exclusive position wouldn't be vyed for more by one of the many CA grads.
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Booo. Let people be happy
 
IslandStyle808 said:
Not so sure about UCSF-Fresno being extremely difficult to match into. They have a lot of DOs and IMGs/FMGs in their program, from what I have seen on their current resident roster.

http://www.fresno.ucsf.edu/internal/juniors.html
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I mean I think it's still a difficult place to match in terms of location but in terms of prestige it's def not anywhere near any of the CA academic programs. I know Scripps Green IM in San Diego is also extremely hard to match because it's essentially within the research park of La Jolla (which has Salk, Scripps Research Institute, LIAI, and Sanford Preby's next door)
 
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