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I think it's on the uptick...I'd never buy high. But, that's just me.
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I think it's on the uptick...I'd never buy high. But, that's just me.
Pardon?I think it's on the uptick...
I was saying that EM has more room for growth since there is still a shortage...Pardon?
TouroCOM 2016
Advocate Lutheran General Hospital Internal Medicine
AHS Overlook Medical Center Family Medicine
Albany Medical Center Anesthesiology
Albany Medical Center Pediatrics
Albert Einstein Medical Center Internal Medicine
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center Family Medicine
Atlantic Health System Pediatrics
AtlantiCare Regional Medical Center Internal Medicine
Authority Health Family Medicine
Brooklyn Hospital Center Emergency Medicine
CarePoint Health-Bayonne Medical Center General Surgery
Children's Hospital of Michigan Pediatrics
Christ Hospital Family Medicine
Christiana Care Radiology
Christus Spohn Memorial Hospital Emergency Medicine
Cleveland Clinic Foundation Anesthesiology
College Medical Center Family Medicine
Community Health of South Florida Psychiatry
Coney Island Hospital Internal Medicine
Danville Regional Hospital Internal Medicine
Drexel University SOM/Hahnemann University Pathology
Drexel University SOM/Hahnemman University Psychiatry
Emory University SOM TRI/Neurology
Florida Hospital East Orlando Family Medicine
Good Samaritan Hosiptal & Medical Center Emergency Medicine
Hennepin Co Medical Center Emergency Medicine
Hofstra NSLIJ SOM Surgery- preliminary
Hofstra NSLIJ SOM North Shore University Hospital Emergency Medicine
Hofstra NSLIJ SOM SIUH Emergency Medicine
Hofstra NSLIJ SOM SIUH Psychiatry
Hofstra NSLIJ SOM SIUH/ Texas A&M Scott & White TRI/Anesthesiology
Hofstra NSLIJ SOM SIUH/ U Colorado SOM TRI/Anesthesiology
Hofstra NSLIJ SOM SIUH/St. Joseph's RegionalTRI/Anesthesiology
Icahn SOM Beth Israel TRI/Neurology
Icahn SOM Queens Hospital TRI/Anesthesiology
Lakeside Medical Center Family Medicine
Lankenau Medical Center TRI
Largo Medical Center Internal Medicine
Lehigh Valley Health Network TRI
Lincoln Medical Center/ Maimonides TRI/Anesthesiology
Maimonides Medical Center TRI/Anesthesiology
Maine Medical Center Pediatrics
Merit Health Valley Internal Medicine
Methodist Health System Internal Medicine
Mountain View Regional MC Orthopedic Surgery
Mt Sinai Medical Center Emergency Medicine
Nassau University Medical Center Family Medicine
Nassau University Medical Center PM&R
Nassau University Medical Center TRI
Newark Beth Israel Medical Center Pediatrics
NY Methodist Hospital Emergency Medicine
NYMC- Metropolitan Hospital Emergency Medicine
NYMC- Phelps Memorial Hospital Center Family Medicine
Orange Regional Medical Center Emergency Medicine
Orange Regional Medical Center TRI
Overlook Hospital Internal Medicine
Palisades Medical Center Internal Medicine
Plain view Hospital Family Medicine
Plain view Hospital Orthopedic Surgery
Plain view Hospital Family Medicine
Plain view Hospital TRI
RowanSOM/CarePoint Health-Bayonne Medical Center Family Medicine
Rush University Medical Center PM&R
Rutgers- R W Johnson Medical School Pediatrics
Scripps Mercy Hospital Internal Medicine
Sinai Hospital of Baltimore Internal Medicine
Southampton Hospital TRI
Southern Regional AHEC Family Medicine
St John Medical Center Emergency Medicine
St. Barnabas Hospital Family Medicine
St. Barnabas Medical Center Otolaryngology & Facial Plastic Surgery
St. John Providence Health System Neurological Surgery
St. John's Episcopal Health Family Medicine
St. John's Episcopal Health Ophthalmology
St. John's Episcopal Hospital South Shore Family Medicine
St. John's Episcopal Hospital South Shore TRI
St. Mary's Medical Center Internal Medicine
St. Peter's University Hospital Obstetrics-gynecology
St. Peter's University/ Rutgers RW Johnson TRI/Neurology
Stamford Hospital Internal Medicine
Stony Brook Hospital Pediatrics
Stony Brook Hospital Psychiatry
Stony Brook Hospital/Mather Hospital Internal Medicine
Suburban Community Hospital Internal Medicine
SUNY HSC Brooklyn Internal Medicine
SUNY HSC Brooklyn Pediatrics
Temple University Hospital Psychiatry
Thomas Jefferson University Anesthesiology
UC San Francisco Family Medicine
University of Chicago Internal Medicine
University of Connecticut SOM Medicine-primary
University of Connecticut SOM Pediatrics
University of Massachusetts Medical School Internal Medicine
University of North Texas HSC Integrated Family Medicine/NMM
UPMC Medical Education PM&R
Valley Hospital Medical Center Orthopedic Surgery
Vanderbilt University Medical Center Anesthesiology
Westchester General Hospital Family Medicine
Wilson Memorial Regional Medical Family Medicine
Winthrop University Hospital Internal Medicine
Wright Center National Family Medicine Family Medicine
Ver niiiiiiiice!!UCSF family med and UChicago IM? Nice.
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YupThis is Harlem (NY) campus?
Confirmed UofC in Hyde Park or UofC Northshore?UCSF family med and UChicago IM? Nice.
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Confirmed UofC in Hyde Park or UofC Northshore?
Can't confirm unfortunately. This is an error that's made time and time again at a lot of schools with writing UChicago and not NorthShore. I don't know much about the affiliations and how strong they are to the extent that Northshore would be placed under the name of UChicago.
In the end, you're in Chicago, which is awesome.
the thin crust there is wicked good too!This is true. Deep dish pizza has never sounded so good.
No... But none of us know for a fact that every single AOA program is bad... It's just SDN perpetrating their own bias.Am I the only one that ignores the AOA matches and only looks at ACGME?
Rad Onc is not a specialty a particular DO school will match every year... it's more likely to be an assortment of schools with candidates that have somehow developed an interest in the field.No RadOnc this year at TouroNY? Last year they had two matches for that
No... But none of us know for a fact that every single AOA program is bad... It's just SDN perpetrating their own bias.
Agreed. I think it's fair to put more weight on the ACGME match, but people choose AOA for reasons other than that they just couldn't cut it (geography or plain old being risk averse).
To eliminate simply looking for the wow factor, I often times wish that, or at least contemplate the idea of, match lists coming with data and metrics concerning how students at separate schools did in their:A person might be wanting to be more of a good physician in practice and would pick an AOA program that focuses on such skills versus an ACGME one that focuses too much on research. However, can't deny those two reasons you have mentioned for picking a residency are large ones.
A lot of us focus on ACGME matches because of the wow factor it delivers. This derives from DOs not usually matching there, the program's reputation (to some degree the institution), and fellowship matching. However, I for one (and others on this forum) cannot comment on what is a good program, because in the end it is all a matter of what one is looking for in a program.
To eliminate simply looking for the wow factor, I often times wish that, or at least contemplate the idea of, match lists coming with data and metrics concerning how students at separate schools did in their:
1. actual match rate vs their placement rate
2. preferred specialty placement
3. percent matching 1st choice program, 2nd choice, etc.
Unfortunately, this data is only available for the system as a whole in the NRMP Match Report. Such information might make the match list as a whole more meaningful or even useful as it would be a better measure of graduates' contentment with their placement. I suppose it wouldn't really tell us a whole lot about students' ability to obtain interviews though, but there could be some trends to at least look at.
I do find it interesting that of those successfully matching in 2015, independents applicants outperform US seniors in matching into their top 2, top 3, or top 4 programs. It would be nice to be able to compare this kind of data between schools as well.
At what point do you count them as "wanting" a specialty? Before step 1? After Step 1? After third year? After apps submitted but before interviews start? After interviews end? After match list submitted? After match results?Yup. I thought about this also. For example, a school that has 50 students who wanted surgery and 5 matched would be looked at as having a better match than a school who had 2 that wanted surgery and both matched. Just because more match into a certain specialty doesn't mean that they had less students that got rejected from that specialty. It would be nice to know the stats of how many people wanted orthopedics vs. how many matched orthopedics for example.
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At what point do you count them as "wanting" a specialty? Before step 1? After Step 1? After third year? After apps submitted but before interviews start? After interviews end? After match list submitted? After match results?
So much selection both self and external happens along the way, it's hard to gauge what truly they wanted vs. what they could realistic achieve.
.Am I the only one that ignores the AOA matches and only looks at ACGME?
No, I do it too. Usually because I have no frame of reference.Am I the only one that ignores the AOA matches and only looks at ACGME?
I do find it interesting that of those successfully matching in 2015, independents applicants outperform US seniors in matching into their top 2, top 3, or top 4 programs. It would be nice to be able to compare this kind of data between schools as well.
It's not "interesting" at all. US MDs receive interviews at programs that are way more competitive than DOs, IMGs and FMGs so the top choices on their match lists tend to be programs that are extremely competitive. At my med school there was a very strong student who matched at their #8 choice. That program was #1 on my list (I didn't end up matching there). The programs that student ranked 1 through 8 all don't interview DOs or IMGs and are extremely competitive programs that every single person on here would recognize. Same can't be said for the programs the independent applicants are ranking at the top of their lists.
This really actually depends on the field you're speaking about. If we're talking about something like Ophtho or Derm, you're right. However, for other fields (and regions, like Texas) this generalization falls apart. I have friends (with similar credentials) from both Baylor and TCOM that applied to gas and they received almost identical (in caliber) interviews.
I have friends (with similar credentials) from both Baylor and TCOM that applied to gas and they received almost identical (in caliber) interviews.
Unsubscribing to this thread because of how derailed it is. Just post a damn list of you have it, congratulate [future] colleagues and move on. Jesus Christ. It's not that complicated.
Right, because a thread titled "Talk bad about DOs" is sure to be calm, collected, and rational.Agreed! how annoying!!! Create a different thread to talk badly about DO's, the match and what not. It has been shown over and over again how things are changing but we just keep discriminating ourselves. It makes us all look like fools. If you are good, then you go out there and show residency programs! I'm sure there are still some places that are bias, but oh well! Stop complaining here!!!
Agreed! how annoying!!! Create a different thread to talk badly about DO's, the match and what not. It has been shown over and over again how things are changing but we just keep discriminating ourselves. It makes us all look like fools. If you are good, then you go out there and show residency programs! I'm sure there are still some places that are bias, but oh well! Stop complaining here!!!
Right, but there are a billion other forums for that to be said in. This is a forum for people to post match lists.Nobody has said anything bad about DOs. There is nothing wrong with speaking about the realities about being a DO. Sorry if all you want to hear is DO=MD. There aren't equal opportunities for both. If you already know this, then there shouldn't be a problem.
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Haven't been on here in a while too busy with boards. But here's PCOM's list if nobody's posted it yet. Plastics at UPenn and Rad-Onc at Fox chase were the ones that stood out to me.
If that Integrated Plastics is true, it's probably the best DO match I've ever seen!
I'm pretty sure I know who it is that matched there. He was told by the program director that they loved him but they don't take DOs. He did a research year to try to have a shot. I'm glad it worked out for him. Miracles do happen!