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Hello Everyone! Getting pumped to do an anesthesia rotation at Mayo and have a few questions for residents, attendings and anyone who has rotated there as a visiting student. What will the average day be like? Will I rotate between services? What are the hours/call like for the visiting student? For you residents, how are you enjoying the program? Anything I need to know to kill this rotation? Thanks in advance for all of your help!
~Mustang
 
I finished there 3 years ago. med student rotation is excellent. it is structured to some degree. I think they usually have you do a week in the "central" corridor (which is mostly thoracic with some ortho in there as well), a week in neuro (lots of big tumor cases, sitting cranis, occasional awake cranis, intra-op MRI), a week in peds (lots of sick/zebra kids having B&B procedures as well as big cases) and a week at Methodist hospital (some OB, gyn, transplant, tons of ortho with TONS of regional). You are there to get what you want out of it. Ask for a cardiac/pain/icu day if you're interested. They're very accomodating. Show up early, help where you can. If a resident or consultant tells you to go home, go home. I believe call is optional and really only consists of staying until like 10 pm or midnight (and having the next day off, so do it on a thursday). I'm sure they'd let you stay overnight as much as you like if you're interested, but the daytime stuff is generally cooler and higher yield. As far as procedures, lots of tubes/IVs, some art lines, maybe a CVP, maybe a spinal?. Unlikely to do blocks/epidurals/swans. Show up at 6 to help somebody set up a room, daily lecture at 7, usually bounce around among a few rooms to get the best experience possible. Usually stay until 2 or 3 or whenever somebody tells you to get outta there. Residents usually eager to answer questions/teach, but there are limits, particular in busy/high turnover rooms. If you get a "beat it" vibe, try checking out another room (80 ORs in the main at SMH, ~45 at RMH) or just hook up with a consultant. If you want to impress, be on time, be enthusiastic and don't be an ass. usually not hard to get a letter. Tim Long (the PD) is a great guy and always willing to help. Matching can be tough. When I left, the average step 1 for matched peeps was like 250. I probably wouldn't make the cut nowadays. hope you enjoy your rotation.
 
I agree with most of what B-bone said. The rotation is amazing. Everyone is very nice an will go out of their way to teach you. Lots of tubes, IVs, and art lines. You will probably not do any central lines, and its against their policy to let anyone without a medical license do any regional, including spirals/epidurals. But as a wise resident once told me, you don't want to be remembered as the visiting med student who botched the central line. Most days out from 1-3, call is optional but worth doing, especially liver call.

Make sure you read. There is a tough test at the end.

As for avg board score, B-bone is about 15 points high, at least for step 1. That's info from the PD 2 years ago.

Ended up not putting them #1 for personal reasons, but the rotation was very reassuring.
 
I finished there 3 years ago. med student rotation is excellent. it is structured to some degree. I think they usually have you do a week in the "central" corridor (which is mostly thoracic with some ortho in there as well), a week in neuro (lots of big tumor cases, sitting cranis, occasional awake cranis, intra-op MRI), a week in peds (lots of sick/zebra kids having B&B procedures as well as big cases) and a week at Methodist hospital (some OB, gyn, transplant, tons of ortho with TONS of regional). You are there to get what you want out of it. Ask for a cardiac/pain/icu day if you're interested. They're very accomodating. Show up early, help where you can. If a resident or consultant tells you to go home, go home. I believe call is optional and really only consists of staying until like 10 pm or midnight (and having the next day off, so do it on a thursday). I'm sure they'd let you stay overnight as much as you like if you're interested, but the daytime stuff is generally cooler and higher yield. As far as procedures, lots of tubes/IVs, some art lines, maybe a CVP, maybe a spinal?. Unlikely to do blocks/epidurals/swans. Show up at 6 to help somebody set up a room, daily lecture at 7, usually bounce around among a few rooms to get the best experience possible. Usually stay until 2 or 3 or whenever somebody tells you to get outta there. Residents usually eager to answer questions/teach, but there are limits, particular in busy/high turnover rooms. If you get a "beat it" vibe, try checking out another room (80 ORs in the main at SMH, ~45 at RMH) or just hook up with a consultant. If you want to impress, be on time, be enthusiastic and don't be an ass. usually not hard to get a letter. Tim Long (the PD) is a great guy and always willing to help. Matching can be tough. When I left, the average step 1 for matched peeps was like 250. I probably wouldn't make the cut nowadays. hope you enjoy your rotation.

Thanks so much for all the information and advice! Sounds like a great experience. Do you know how many residents the dept takes each year?
 
18 to 20 (usually 18, with a potential for up to 2 additional spots, usually for transfers from other specialties).
 
No ICU is soley run by anesthesia there.

Incorrect. Mary Brigh 7D/E (vascular/thoracic surgical ICU) is staffed 100% by anesthesia/CC faculty. It's a closed surgical ICU which ahs patients from all surgical subspecialties other than Gen Surg/Trauma. Anesthesia residents spend 2 of their required three ICU months there.
 
Incorrect. Mary Brigh 7D/E (vascular/thoracic surgical ICU) is staffed 100% by anesthesia/CC faculty. It's a closed surgical ICU which ahs patients from all surgical subspecialties other than Gen Surg/Trauma. Anesthesia residents spend 2 of their required three ICU months there.

I suppose you would know better, but I thought it was co-run.
 
Primary team writes all orders, makes management decisions. Surgical teams are consulting and make recommendations. They do make primary decisions about surgical issues, dressing changes, etc. Everything else is done by primary team (ICU team), including procedures (lines, vent, bronchs, intubations, para/thoracentesis, echo, etc). Surgical team usually does chest tubes and perc trachs, though.
 
Incorrect. Mary Brigh 7D/E (vascular/thoracic surgical ICU) is staffed 100% by anesthesia/CC faculty. It's a closed surgical ICU which ahs patients from all surgical subspecialties other than Gen Surg/Trauma. Anesthesia residents spend 2 of their required three ICU months there.

There is an ICU at the other Mayo hospital in Rochester that is staffed by both Anesth CC and Pulm CC consultants (Mayo's name for staff). That ICU is also staffed by advanced practice nurses, as well as residents.

I am not CC, but my colleagues tell me that that arrangement works quite well. I don't know the details of daily life up there.
 
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