Med-Peds

[NRAI2001]

Always been interested in Med-Peds but dont know many people who did it or applied to it. Is applying to med-peds harder/more competitive than applying to medicine alone or pediatrics alone? What type of student are programs looking for?

I heard that often if a institution has IM residency and Pediatrics residency in place you can often kinda create your own Med-Peds combination so as long as you let the PDs know from the get go that you re interested in this??

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[group_theory]

Always been interested in Med-Peds but dont know many people who did it or applied to it. Is applying to med-peds harder/more competitive than applying to medicine alone or pediatrics alone? What type of student are programs looking for?

It is "harder" in a sense that you have to explain why you are interested in both medicine and pediatrics. You will also need LORs from faculty in pediatrics as well as internal medicine (and sometimes the chair of medicine and the chair of pediatrics).

It is "competitive" in a sense that there are fewer programs (and fewer spots) compare to their respective categorical colleagues.

According to the 2011 NRMP Match Data, the average USMLE Step 1 score for the successful Med-Peds applicant was 230 for US MD applicants. (the average score for independent applicants was 217).

I heard that often if a institution has IM residency and Pediatrics residency in place you can often kinda create your own Med-Peds combination so as long as you let the PDs know from the get go that you re interested in this??

NO, you cannot create your own Med-Peds residency anymore (you can always do 3 years of Internal Medicine, and 3 years of Pediatrics independent of each other).

Med-Peds programs are accredited by the ACGME RRC specifically for Med-Peds. If you did not graduate from an accredited Med-Peds residency, you are ineligible for the ABIM and ABP.

*accrediation for Med-Peds started around 2007. Prior to that, med-peds programs were not specifically accredited by the ACGME but operated at places with accredited IM and accredited Peds, and the combined program had the blessing from both ABIM and ABP.

 

[jkhamlin]

NO, you cannot create your own Med-Peds residency anymore (you can always do 3 years of Internal Medicine, and 3 years of Pediatrics independent of each other).

Generally, if you complete one residency or even just internship year, you CAN enter as PGY2 in most other residencies. So, it would be 3 years in either and 2 years in the other.

Med-Peds programs are accredited by the ACGME RRC specifically for Med-Peds. If you did not graduate from an accredited Med-Peds residency, you are ineligible for the ABIM and ABP.

*accrediation for Med-Peds started around 2007. Prior to that, med-peds programs were not specifically accredited by the ACGME but operated at places with accredited IM and accredited Peds, and the combined program had the blessing from both ABIM and ABP.

Technicality. Also, if you are a DO and complete the DO Med/Peds residency, then you can sit for AOBIM and AOBP. The one DO program left, however, is dual accredited in ACGME and AOA, so the point, like yours above, is moot.

 

[group_theory]

Generally, if you complete one residency or even just internship year, you CAN enter as PGY2 in most other residencies. So, it would be 3 years in either and 2 years in the other.

If you complete a medicine intern year, not sure how many pediatric residencies will let you start a peds residency as a PGY2 (a senior pediatric resident, supervising junior peds resident). In addition, you need certain rotational requirements to take the peds board (and some medicine rotations won't count). There are some rotations that are unique to peds (NICU, nursery, behavior/development, outpatient pediatric sick visits, etc)

Technicality. Also, if you are a DO and complete the DO Med/Peds residency, then you can sit for AOBIM and AOBP. The one DO program left, however, is dual accredited in ACGME and AOA, so the point, like yours above, is moot.

True - once you are done, you can always petition the AOA to recognize your ACGME med-peds residency as equivalent (via resolution 56, after you get resolution 42 approved) - you can theoretically take ABIM, ABP, AOBIM, AOBP. That's a lot of tests to study for, lots of fees to study for, and NOW .... lots of certifications to maintain (MOC and OCC)