Med School Gays

[NuevaYorkDoc]

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Pre-med post-bacc here. I'm gay and out and come from a background in the arts, where everyone is pretty open about themselves. I'm curious as to what I can expect in the medical community. Please be honest, it's okay, I can take it. I'm sure it's not all feather boas and sequins, but is there a sense of tolerance, or is it pretty much don't ask, don't tell. Are there any gay/lesbian med school organizations? I have a number of gay and lesbian doc friends, but I was wondering what the school atmosphere was like.

 

[turkleton]

Not sure where you're going to school, so it might be affected by regional differences. However, at my school- in the tree hugging, morality depraved northeast- we have lay and lesbian organizations... truthfully, I'm not sure what they do, but I know they do exist, and are welcomed with open arms. Administration down to the students- no one really cares if you're gay, straight, or in between. They care more if you're friendly or a jerk... and if you'll share your charts come exam time. That's about it.

 

[Bertelman]

I haven't walked the walk, but there are a few in my class that do. I also haven't heard that they have endured any outrageous circmustances or ridiculous judgments. I likely would have heard if such things happened, either from them personally or their friends. I get the feeling it isn't too much different than the public at large. I imagine there will still be circumstances where you are treated differently, but it probably won't be any worse than the treatment some women in med school continue to receive. If anything, I think you may want to walk a "straight" line, so to speak, in front of the patient. They are still free to practice bigotry without consequence. I have seen drunken men curse and hurl insults incessantly at a gay nurse in the ER. He handled it well, as I am sure this wasn't the first time it happened. Of course, I don't think I've ever seen a nurse become upset when denied the opportunity to treat a drunk patient. 😉

As a disclaimer, I attend a school that most would consider to be mildy tolerant, as opposed to completely accepting. Nonetheless, an upper-level administrator, as well as the clerkship director of one of the MS3 rotations, are both out. Wherever you go, you will likely find a few allies in case you need to stand up to someone, but certainly some places will be more accepting.

 

[dutchman]

Avoid the midwest and south.

 

[da8s0859q]

Not an MS yet, so grain-of-salt theory applies, but I'll agree with the regional thing. Hell, it's like that with undergrad, too - some places are just more tolerant of gays than other places are, along with the usual regional variation. And even in a stereotypically conservative region (like the above poster saying the south), I'm sure some institutions are a bit more open to it than others.

I'm currently finishing my undergrad at one of Texas A&M University's sister schools, and I had a professor that everyone knew to be gay - he could even put up gay-themed club announcements and such on his office door, and I still don't know of any significant complaints of it.

Oh, and good luck to you. I hope you don't run into TOO many closed-minded jerkoffs.

 

[PenguinHead]

I'm from the Deep South in a traditionally intolerant state. Only about 5 people in my class care if people are gay. The rest only care if you're friendly or a jerk

 

[GoSprout24]

Avoid the midwest and south.

I will only say that I disagree with regards to Ann Arbor. AA is very liberal. We have a very active LGBT group on campus that has really been working on incorporating LGBT issues into our curriculum - some of the students have actually presented their ideas at national conferences. I'm not defending the entire midwest bc I've never lived in other midwest cities -- but Ann Arbor is down with all shapes and kinds.

 

[anon-y-mouse]

I would say avoid NYMC (they banned some group or something) and Einstein (well, this was some frivolous lawsuit, but perhaps still had some merit)

 

[Wizard of Oz]

The medical student community will likely reflect the communities that they come from. I have seen no evidence that education cures bigotry.

You live in a much more liberal area than me, but even my school has a dean who is into dudes, and our first year clinical course director is a lady who is into ladies. With that said, my classmates tend to be gay-friendly to your face, but if you poll them anonymously, a significant portion believes that it is a mental illness.

I am one to think that the fact that this question is even being asked speaks to the state of our society and profession. I personally couldn't care less what somebody is into unless he/she is my patient and engages in behaviors that affect my differential diagnosis, but such is certainly not exclusive to a person's sexual preference.

My advice is to avoid treating it as an issue. Apply where you think you'll learn medicine the best, and don't worry about whether a specific student body will be accepting of your lifestyle. You can't please everybody. If they want to judge you before getting to know you, screw 'em.

 

[beefballs]

Avoid the midwest and south.

Whatever-look if you are gay nobody is gonna start hurling homphobic insuts at you, and they may not ever get over thier personal feelings regarding it(so it is their problem not yours) but you won't have any trouble in most circumstances. Gay-bashing is not tolerated anywhere, and to echo what an earlier poster said they will be more concerned with whether you are a jerk or nice. The only instance of out in the open loathing I have seen is between the socialist liberal and the bible thumping conservative-then it is usually open revulsion at the other.

 

[turkleton]

In reference to what the Wizard of Oz said... I don't remember the exact statistics, but there was some anonymous poll taken of medical students earlier this decade regarding a variety of social issues, one of them being homosexuality. More than a 1/3 answered in exactly the same fashion- it was a "curable illness" so to speak or a "sin". I initially disregarded it, attributing it to faulty statistics or polling bias, but lately I think that there is a latent undercurrent of intolerance. However, as I mentioned earlier, I still feel its regional dependent and while the data would argue that 1 out of every 3 in my school feels the same, it certainly didn't seem that way. I wish I had the study, if I find it I'll post it.

 

[pagemmapants]

Maybe I'm not fully knowledgable of everything that may have happened since they moved here, but we've got 2 openly gay males in our class, and despite the presence of a number of highly conservative colleagues, to my knowledge they have never experienced any sort of antagonism directly. As far as I can tell their biggest problem is that they have to go to Raleigh to find a proper "gay bar". Plenty of LGBT organizations on both our campus and the other tobacco rival school.

 

[jbrice1639]

Avoid the midwest and south.

yeah, can't say i'd agree with that sentiment being from chicago (not being gay myself, but having several gay friends who love life in chicago and also knowing a handful of gay medical students at my school and other chicago schools)

but then again, chicago doesn't really fit in with what most people think is "midwest"

 

[dutchman]

Whatever-look if you are gay nobody is gonna start hurling homphobic insuts at you, and they may not ever get over thier personal feelings regarding it(so it is their problem not yours) but you won't have any trouble in most circumstances. Gay-bashing is not tolerated anywhere, and to echo what an earlier poster said they will be more concerned with whether you are a jerk or nice. The only instance of out in the open loathing I have seen is between the socialist liberal and the bible thumping conservative-then it is usually open revulsion at the other.

In kansas, oklahoma, Arkansas, south carolina and states alike they will.

 

[OrangeTide]

Maybe I'm not fully knowledgable of everything that may have happened since they moved here, but we've got 2 openly gay males in our class, and despite the presence of a number of highly conservative colleagues, to my knowledge they have never experienced any sort of antagonism directly. As far as I can tell their biggest problem is that they have to go to Raleigh to find a proper "gay bar". Plenty of LGBT organizations on both our campus and the other tobacco rival school.

this just further convinces me the libs make up problems when none actually exist. Duke is a pretty liberal campus, at least the undergraduate/graduate side, yet their faculty sponsored a full page ad with all sorts of statements from students claiming the whole campus was out to get black people after the lacrosse incident. Some of the statements are actually amusing like, "i'm a black student and the police always make it a point to drive by me really slowly at night." wtf....

to the OP, i don't think you will have a problem, but if you want to be narrowminded and assume the entire population is out to get you, you'll probably find discrimination.

 

[t33sg1rl]

I'm in the Midwest, on the edge of the Bible Belt, and my school is very tolerant. Yes, there are some homophobes in my class, but they're very polite and would much rather invite us gays to their church than hurl insults. Most schools have some kind of gay group, and if your school doesn't, you can start one and add to the "Leadership" section on your CV even if the only thing you did was tack a Post It on a bulletin board. I also wear a small gay pride pin on the lapel of my white coat, and I've never had a negative reaction, even working with populations where homophobia is rampant-although, when working with the generally uneducated public, feminine lesbians tend to get a 'pass' where other queers would not.

 

[Droopy Snoopy]

In kansas, oklahoma, Arkansas, south carolina and states alike they will.

I'm from the deep South and can tell you this has a grain of truth to it, although not nearly to this extent. Most people are OK with it, since believe it or not surprisingly few inbred moonshine-makin' rednecks have what it takes to make it to medical school, but you will run into a few students (not to mention patients, nurses, and others) who make offhand remarks about morals and values and such. I'm not homosexual, but it's even tough just being a non-churchgoing med student, because most of the profs and clinical docs attend and it's a better networking opportunity than any annual conference or residency fair. And who's the attending going to let assist with some cool-ass procedure, his fishing buddy from church or the guy he doesn't really know and has heard rumors that might like a little sugar in his tea? But no I've never even in high school heard a student be openly abusive to another because of their sexual preference. Because of their race yeah, don't let anyone tell you we don't have some of that, but not 'cause they're gay.

Of course the OP seems to be from New York, so I doubt he'd bother applying much down here, since there's comparatively few private schools, and the lack of docs means state schools are pushing more than ever for in-staters only.

 

[BIMS 01]

I go to school in texas and there are several openly gay students in my class. Nobody gives a crap. If you start making out with a dude at school it might raise some eyebrows, but the same thing would happen if a guy and girl went at it at school. Really, very few people care.

Also, it gets really old hearing how biggoted the south supposedly is. Houston and Dallas have two of the larges gay populations in the country. There are anti-gay people everywhere, even the great NYC.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

In kansas, oklahoma, Arkansas, south carolina and states alike they will.

Have you ever been to those states? Just curious. I went to college in Arkansas to a school that's well known as being very gay-friendly. I'm currently in med school in Oklahoma, and yeah, homophobia does exist, but it's not as blatant as you make it out to be.

 

[Steel3407]

I was out in my application and I think it helped at some schools and may have hurt me at some others, namely the University of Missouri where my interviewer asked me point blank why I felt the need to include that I was gay in my personal statement. I wanted to ask him if he would ask the same thing of a black student who happened to mention he was black in his application. The interviewer was basically just an ass. It's funny because they didn't accept me but a much higher ranked school did, and Missouri was my state school!

So my advice is be careful about what you decide to put on your application. Some schools are open to diversity, others only claim to be. Luckily I found one of the ones that really is. And don't listen to what they say about the midwest being homophobic, I'm still in the midwest and my school has a GLBT organization, several gay professors and deans, and a handful of students, and just overall is very accepting and tolerant of everyone.

 

[Droopy Snoopy]

I was out in my application and I think it helped at some schools and may have hurt me at some others, namely the University of Missouri where my interviewer asked me point blank why I felt the need to include that I was gay in my personal statement. I wanted to ask him if he would ask the same thing of a black student who happened to mention he was black in his application. The interviewer was basically just an ass. It's funny because they didn't accept me but a much higher ranked school did, and Missouri was my state school!

So my advice is be careful about what you decide to put on your application. Some schools are open to diversity, others only claim to be. Luckily I found one of the ones that really is. And don't listen to what they say about the midwest being homophobic, I'm still in the midwest and my school has a GLBT organization, several gay professors and deans, and a handful of students, and just overall is very accepting and tolerant of everyone.

Just out of curiosity why did you include it in your application? If it didn't actually relate to something pertinent to why you wanted to be a doc, I guess as an interviewer I'd ask you about it too just because it's weird. It'd be like me putting somewhere on my ERAS ps how much I like ice cream sandwiches. On the other hand if it was included in a story about how you overcame adversity, were motivated by a homosexual mentor doc, etc. then yeah s/he really had no reason to ask you other than to be rude. I'm just confused why you would be so quick to judge an entire school or city as full of huge bigots (or to take it further and assume this was why they declined to accept you) just from that question.

 

[Bertelman]

...believe it or not surprisingly few inbred moonshine-makin' rednecks have what it takes to make it to medical school....

 

[dilated]

the reality is, like in most things, med school is as flamingly liberal as it gets and will probably throw a gay pride parade if you request it, but out with attendings it ranges the gamut from equally liberal to hardcore evangelical. gay pride pins on the white coat ... well, that's pushing it, but it's (ostensibly) a free country. I wouldn't be surprised to see some people object to it on the grounds that your white coat is not usually an advertisement space for advocacy, but I'm sure there's someone out there with a ten inch cross on his white coat ready to sue if someone challenges it too.

 

[dutchman]

Have you ever been to those states? Just curious. I went to college in Arkansas to a school that's well known as being very gay-friendly. I'm currently in med school in Oklahoma, and yeah, homophobia does exist, but it's not as blatant as you make it out to be.

I was just going by the fact that red states typically have the least tolerance.

 

[Wizard of Oz]

In kansas, oklahoma, Arkansas, south carolina and states alike they will.

Kansas does not belong in this sentence next to Oklahoma. I've lived in both and been to school in both. I went to K-State which was much more tolerant than either of the Big 12 schools in Oklahoma, and KU might as well be a suburb of San Francisco. Since their med school in KC is made up of such Kansans, I'm certain that it is a more gay-friendly student body than where I am right now.

That said, I'll agree with exlaw regarding OU. I wouldn't tell anybody not to come here because they lynch gays, and there are dudes who are into dudes who don't get homophobic insults hurled at them. The rest of us wouldn't put up with that BS.

 

[Ypo.]

Pre-med post-bacc here. I'm gay and out and come from a background in the arts, where everyone is pretty open about themselves. I'm curious as to what I can expect in the medical community. Please be honest, it's okay, I can take it. I'm sure it's not all feather boas and sequins, but is there a sense of tollerance, or is it pretty much don't ask, don't tell. Are there any gay/lesbian med school organizations? I have a number on gay and lesbian doc friends, but I was wondering what the school atmosphere was like.

Hi there. I'm at a school in the midwest and according to my gay friend our school is a lot less welcoming than his undergrad, but he went to a very liberal, supportive private school. He has put up flyers on the bulletin board in our study area regarding LGBT education seminars and one of the flyers got ripped down twice in one day (I suspect by one of our ultra-conservative Christian colleagues but I don't really know). My impression is that most students in our class are OK with LGBT folks, but it's impossible to know what people are really thinking.

We have an LGBT support group at our school and next month we're having LGBT week where each day we try to do something to increase awareness about LGBT issues in medicine. I see a lot of interest amongst my classmates regarding LGBT issues; they really want to be aware and sensitive to their needs. Our administration is currently working on building a stronger LGBT educational component into the standard curriculum. So overall I'd say our school is average in terms of LGBT issues and is continuing to make progress.

 

[DRJJ1]

Pre-med post-bacc here. I'm gay and out and come from a background in the arts, where everyone is pretty open about themselves. I'm curious as to what I can expect in the medical community. Please be honest, it's okay, I can take it. I'm sure it's not all feather boas and sequins, but is there a sense of tollerance, or is it pretty much don't ask, don't tell. Are there any gay/lesbian med school organizations? I have a number on gay and lesbian doc friends, but I was wondering what the school atmosphere was like.

WHAT DOES GAY HAVE TO DO WITH MED SCHOOL? I ALWAYS AM CONFUSED BY THESE STATEMENTS,,,CAN T YOU JUST ATTEND A SCHOOL WITHOUT THE DRAMA

 

[tryp]

WHAT DOES GAY HAVE TO DO WITH MED SCHOOL? I ALWAYS AM CONFUSED BY THESE STATEMENTS,,,CAN T YOU JUST ATTEND A SCHOOL WITHOUT THE DRAMA

I would just like to note that while being gay is not necessarily related to medical school per se, it has a heck of a lot to do with everyday life. You probably don't even realize how many times a day you advertise yourself as straight. In order to not allow being gay to impact med school life, a person would essentially have to drain all the gender out of their romantic life or even their casual comments. As someone pointed out on a similar thread, try going through a day where you say nothing that marks you as straight, and you'll find that being in the closet is a more active process than you might think. It's not that every single gay person in medical school wants to run around draped in a rainbow flag all the time; it's simply that, in the course of everyday life, it often takes a great deal of active effort to not disclose sexuality, especially around people you are comfortable with. Nobody wants to be in an environment where they feel that they don't have the choice to just be who they are, in the way that straight people get to be who they are every single day, no matter how open or not they may wish to be about their orientation.

 

[OddNath]

I go to school in texas and there are several openly gay students in my class. Nobody gives a crap. If you start making out with a dude at school it might raise some eyebrows, but the same thing would happen if a guy and girl went at it at school. Really, very few people care.

Also, it gets really old hearing how biggoted the south supposedly is. Houston and Dallas have two of the larges gay populations in the country. There are anti-gay people everywhere, even the great NYC.

Here at UT-H, a Gay-Straight Alliance club was started this past year and had a very successful lecture series. Many faculty gave their support as well.

 

[Yachtclub]

I was just going by the fact that red states typically have the least tolerance.

Maybe it seems that way because people from "tolerant" parts of the country make assumptions about how an ENTIRE REGION of people think, all the while basing said assumption (or as you say, "fact") on zero fact and your own erroneous prejudice. How tolerant is that?

Growing up in Baltimore, MD (a VERY blue part of the country), I can tell you that nowhere else (other than maybe Philly) will you hear the N-word so frequently, or be so acutely aware of racial tension. It has nothing to do with whether one is Conservative or Liberal. It has everything to do with whether you believe in treating others with respect, not just "tolerating" them.

As for the OP, you'll be totally fine in Med School...even down South. Everyone's way too busy trying to match in Derm to care about which kind of porn you look at. While a few students might privately disagree with you on that aspect, the vast majority will be cool with you if you're cool with them.

 

[Wizard of Oz]

Growing up in Baltimore, MD (a VERY blue part of the country), I can tell you that nowhere else (other than maybe Philly) will you hear the N-word so frequently, or be so acutely aware of racial tension.

It must because of that damn HBO show "The Wire" causing all that controversy and making people behave unreasonably.

Everyone's way too busy trying to match in Derm to care about which kind of porn you look at.

😱 So are you saying that I should stop watching porn and study more? That explains a lot...🙁 Or maybe I should just try for a more porn-compatible specialty.

Sorry to answer Yachtclub in such a light-hearted way. I agree with what was said.

 

[Yachtclub]

Hey, I'm glad someone else has seen "The Wire"...it's a pretty accurate look at the rougher side of B-More. Sometimes I wish they didn't make it look so crappy, but I guess there's not too much TV worthy drama in the 6 square blocks of Baltimore that is nice and touristy.

If you find a porn-compatible residency, let me know...I'm thinking Ortho with a hand/joint fellowship would probably be the best bet right now

 

[OrangeTide]

He has put up flyers on the bulletin board in our study area regarding LGBT education seminars and one of the flyers got ripped down twice in one day (I suspect by one of our ultra-conservative Christian colleagues but I don't really know).

Or possible it could have been a member of one of the other major religions of the world which has recognized the fact that has recognized the fact that males go with females oh, for about the last 40,000 years.

 

[OrangeTide]

I was just going by the fact that red states typically have the least tolerance.

oh please, the one's that demand tolerance are the most intolerant of people who's beliefs don't fall in line with theirs.

 

[Church]

I'm at MCG pretty much the middle of the "Bible Belt", and honestly, what someone said about being either cool or a jerk being the extent of people's interest in you is true. No one has the freaking TIME to worry about what floats your boat. Trust me. I go to Bible study, and I'm fairly devout, but I really could care less about your preferences. If you're competent, and reasonably entertaining to talk to, we're cool.

For those who had nothing else on their minds to say but "avoid the south..." I know a couple thousand gay people in Atlanta's thriving gay community that'd tell ya to piss off. 🙂

Have a nice night.

 

[Hayden2102]

Or possible it could have been a member of one of the other major religions of the world which has recognized the fact that has recognized the fact that males go with females oh, for about the last 40,000 years.

So what?

 

[Droopy Snoopy]

Or possible it could have been a member of one of the other major religions of the world which has recognized the fact that has recognized the fact that males go with females oh, for about the last 40,000 years.

Yeah, we all know how active those gay-bashing Hindus are in the Midwest 🙄 . Don't hijack the thread, dude, this one's bound to degenerate all on it's own.

 

[turkleton]

Or possible it could have been a member of one of the other major religions of the world which has recognized the fact that has recognized the fact that males go with females oh, for about the last 40,000 years.

Little known fact... Tarzman married Himcules, oh about 37,432 BCE. Lovely couple... had a nice little cave with a white wooly-mammoth husk fence. Their adopted son went on to become the worlds first neurosurgeon, cracking the skull in only one rock throw! I found this in one of lesser known religious type books, so it must be true!

 

[NuevaYorkDoc]

It's pretty much what I figured and hoped. It seems like a pretty open and diverse atmosphere. Just what I'm looking for. I appreciate the responses. I'm still selecting the schools I will be applying to and what it's really about is where I'm going to receive the best education. I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't entering a world where I couldn't be who I was. Living honestly is the most important thing. That's why I'm back in school. Thanks for the input.

 

[dutchman]

Maybe it seems that way because people from "tolerant" parts of the country make assumptions about how an ENTIRE REGION of people think, all the while basing said assumption (or as you say, "fact") on zero fact and your own erroneous prejudice. How tolerant is that?

Growing up in Baltimore, MD (a VERY blue part of the country), I can tell you that nowhere else (other than maybe Philly) will you hear the N-word so frequently, or be so acutely aware of racial tension. It has nothing to do with whether one is Conservative or Liberal. It has everything to do with whether you believe in treating others with respect, not just "tolerating" them.

As for the OP, you'll be totally fine in Med School...even down South. Everyone's way too busy trying to match in Derm to care about which kind of porn you look at. While a few students might privately disagree with you on that aspect, the vast majority will be cool with you if you're cool with them.

All I am saying is that most of those rural red states still have a massive amount of backwards people who don't mind flirting with bigotry and intolerance. Like wizard pointed out, education does not cure that either. For example, South carolina still flies the confederate flag in their public buildings knowing fully well it offends blacks. I don't expect too much drama in a school setting, but OP has to understand that certain regions tend to have MORE homophobes than others for whatever reason. IMO, all things being equal, if OP has a choice between Massachusetts and oklahoma I would say go with Massachusetts. Remember some of those red state schools will force you to do some rotations in rural settings, and if OP is visibly gay he/she will almost certainly encounter some challenges in that setting.

 

[Toohotinvegas33]

To the OP try the University of Utah, Mount Sinai, or Loyola

 

[DrMidlife]

Mt. Sinai's a conservative school? You can be across the street from Central Park, affiliated with NYU, and still be conservative? Seriously?

Somebody please confirm or deny.

 

[OrangeTide]

All I am saying is that most of those rural red states still have a massive amount of backwards people who don't mind flirting with bigotry and intolerance. Like wizard pointed out, education does not cure that either.

wow, i'm not even going to respond to that.

funny though how those who preach tolerance and diversity are completely against anything that opposes their viewpoint.

 

[anon-y-mouse]

wow, i'm not even going to respond to that.

funny though how those who preach tolerance and diversity are completely against anything that opposes their viewpoint.

to be against an intolerant, hateful, bigoted viewpoint is now against the notion of tolerance and diversity? right. that's like saying we should respect the views of the nazis and the kkk.

anyway, i suggest that nobody else indulge this orangetide individual, s/he's attempting to hijack this thread that had some legitimate questions.

 

[OrangeTide]

to be against an intolerant, hateful, bigoted viewpoint is now against the notion of tolerance and diversity? right. that's like saying we should respect the views of the nazis and the kkk.

thanks for putting words in my mouth.

Funny, when you stereotype the whole south as backwards rednecks, that's ok, but if I stereotype the entire middle east as a bunch of terrorists, we run into problems, right? Or, I didn't see any liberals who preach tolerance and diversity protest the anti-semitic Borat. hell, they loved him and gave him awards for it.

fyi - i'm not trying ot hijack the thread. there's plenty of ignorance abudnant throughout it. why do people assume homophobia will be worse in the south? i doubt most of y'all have ever been there.

like I told the OP, wherever he goes, he'll do just fine unless he goes out looking for discrimination. sounds like he's not a sensitive guy that gets jumpy on little things. You know how some people are though, "oh that prof gave me a bad grade because I'm <insert difference here>" don't sit there and tell me you've never heard of people using bs reasons to justify their shortcomings.

maybe y'all hate the South where you're from and that's what they teach you in undergrad, but where I'm from, we don't hate anybody (except the terrorists).

 

[Flopotomist]

To the OP try the University of Utah, Mount Sinai, or Loyola

As a gay guy at Loyola - I am pretty happy here. There certainly aren't enough of us to form a group or anything - only 2 out in the M1 class, 0 in M2, 1 in M3, 1 in M4. BUT - I have never been mistreated while here and frankly love this school.

 

[adrenalitis]

My southern med school is very accepting. One of the openly gay students wears pink heart shaped scrubs and no one say a thing. Go DAT

 

[anon-y-mouse]

thanks for putting words in my mouth.

Funny, when you stereotype the whole south as backwards rednecks, that's ok, but if I stereotype the entire middle east as a bunch of terrorists, we run into problems, right? Or, I didn't see any liberals who preach tolerance and diversity protest the anti-semitic Borat. hell, they loved him and gave him awards for it.

fyi - i'm not trying ot hijack the thread. there's plenty of ignorance abudnant throughout it. why do people assume homophobia will be worse in the south? i doubt most of y'all have ever been there.

like I told the OP, wherever he goes, he'll do just fine unless he goes out looking for discrimination. sounds like he's not a sensitive guy that gets jumpy on little things. You know how some people are though, "oh that prof gave me a bad grade because I'm <insert difference here>" don't sit there and tell me you've never heard of people using bs reasons to justify their shortcomings.

maybe y'all hate the South where you're from and that's what they teach you in undergrad, but where I'm from, we don't hate anybody (except the terrorists).

I don't see what's so hard to get about it, it's all about the nature of the population in certain areas. People from New York are exposed to people of all different lifestyles -- widespread, and people are open about themselves. In Nashville for example, you aren't going to see much of that, and indeed there will probably be many more people who aren't used to sexual minorities. This doesn't necessarily mean they'll bash or anything, but people might not have as much of an open mind. It's just human nature to be uncomfortable with what you're not used to or see on a regular basis.

 

[Ypo.]

Or possible it could have been a member of one of the other major religions of the world which has recognized the fact that has recognized the fact that males go with females oh, for about the last 40,000 years.

Is this yet ANOTHER reincarnation of orange crush?

TROLL. Pick another color at least. Like when you came back as "red crush"; that was original. 🙄

 

[da8s0859q]

Or possible it could have been a member of one of the other major religions of the world which has recognized the fact that has recognized the fact that males go with females oh, for about the last 40,000 years.

yeah, that's probably it.

We have a gay faculty member here - one of my former professors, actually - that also had LGBT flyers on his office door. Fortunately, nobody seemed to throw a ****fit over them.