medschool and makeup

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I'm not disgusted by fat folks nor do I view them with contempt. I don't notice them anymore than I notice the average person.

For some reason, I guess as an offshoot of the normal "I've learned about every disease known to man so I'm going to diagnose everyone I see with something", every time I see morbidly obese people I think about how miserable it would be to try and run a code on them, trying to heave them from the gurney onto the table, trying to do chest compressions, trying to flip them to check for occult blood, etc. That's when I look them and sigh. I think I might occasionally look at them when I'm enjoying my guilty fast food pleasure and think, wow, do your arteries really need that Big Mac? Otherwise, whatever. We all do things that are unhealthy. We all make poor choices. We're all going to die of something, so why not eat, drink and be merry until then? Make-up helps in the "be merry" department (to tie it back to the thread).
 
Question for you makeup savvy girls (or bois): so, I wear anything from the full eyeliner/eyeshadow/mascara + blush thing to just mascara and blush. Generally speaking I prefer the more natural look, so mostly just the blush and mascara. However, here's my question, I'd be more inclined to wear eyeshadow if there was a nice subtle cool (as in opposite of warm) palette. I look best in a vibrant purple actually, makes my grey/blue eyes pop, but there's no way I'm wearing that in a professional setting. I feel like the warm colors are more day-friendly for subtle highlighting, but they don't suit my coloring as well. Any suggestions? Like specific makeup lines/colors to check out would be awesome. I currently use a mix of mac/elf/origins/clinique.

Sorry to be on topic. 😀

ETA: I've got blond hair, pink skin undertones
 
Question for you makeup savvy girls (or bois): so, I wear anything from the full eyeliner/eyeshadow/mascara + blush thing to just mascara and blush. Generally speaking I prefer the more natural look, so mostly just the blush and mascara. However, here's my question, I'd be more inclined to wear eyeshadow if there was a nice subtle cool (as in opposite of warm) palette. I look best in a vibrant purple actually, makes my grey/blue eyes pop, but there's no way I'm wearing that in a professional setting. I feel like the warm colors are more day-friendly for subtle highlighting, but they don't suit my coloring as well. Any suggestions? Like specific makeup lines/colors to check out would be awesome. I currently use a mix of mac/elf/origins/clinique.

Sorry to be on topic. 😀

ETA: I've got blond hair, pink skin undertones

So I've used Lancome since my mom made me start wearing make up. I like their color selection and make up quality.

Go to a Lancome counter and tell them your preferences, basically everything you said above. They can help you with picking out colors and technique. Purple works with a lot of if not most skin/hair/eye colors, but browns also, if used right, look great with blue eyes, and blue/grey eyes are very noticeable with browns.

If you want to buy something, they generally do a free makeover especially if the counter is not busy. That way they tend to sell more stuff. Even if I only intend on buying foundation, sometimes I go in to look at the new colors, and end up with a make over just because I think it's good to learn new techniques. You can also time it, so you go in on a day you have some function.

Oh, and I did sell make up for a little while and I was Lancome trained, so I know their tricks. Just don't fall for them trying to sell you more than you want to buy.
 
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Hmm...I've been to a lot of makeup counters, and unfortunately really don't enjoy the experience. I've never liked one of their makeovers (I don't know if it's the store lights, or my preferences, or what, but I always leave feeling like a clown), and I REALLY hate the hard sell maneuvers. Sephora is a godsend. So, I guess I'll check out the lancome cool browns palette. I do look good in purple, but think it's maybe a bit too artificial and showy for a clinical environment. I'll keep looking, thanks. 🙂

ps. Thanks for the heads up CG, I'll check it out.

So I've used Lancome since my mom made me start wearing make up. I like their color selection and make up quality.

Go to a Lancome counter and tell them your preferences, basically everything you said above. They can help you with picking out colors and technique. Purple works with a lot of if not most skin/hair/eye colors, but browns also, if used right, look great with blue eyes, and blue/grey eyes are very noticeable with browns.

If you want to buy something, they generally do a free makeover especially if the counter is not busy. That way they tend to sell more stuff. Even if I only intend on buying foundation, sometimes I go in to look at the new colors, and end up with a make over just because I think it's good to learn new techniques. You can also time it, so you go in on a day you have some function.

Oh, and I did sell make up for a little while and I was Lancome trained, so I know their tricks. Just don't fall for them trying to sell you more than you want to buy.
 
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Yes, medical student I do understand that some people have to work harder to be thin. What's your point?
Wow, did you seriously pull that card? You must be an absolute treat to be around. :laugh: My God.

There's no way in hell I'd put on make-up to class if I were female. Most girls in my class don't, and I'd think it was weird if they did. Laziness nothing. It's called practicality. Given the nature of med school, it'd actually seem to me as though a girl who got dolled up every day was extremely insecure. I'm not sure that's the image you're going for, but whatever works for you.
 
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I'm disappointed in the direction this discussion has taken. I'd expect this type of booty chatter out of Pre-Allo.

But not Allo. 🙁
 
There's no way in hell I'd put on make-up to class if I were female. Most girls in my class don't, and I'd think it was weird if they did. Laziness nothing. It's called practicality. Given the nature of med school, it'd actually seem to me as though a girl who got dolled up every day was extremely insecure. I'm not sure that's the image you're going for, but whatever works for you.

I think it's funny that there are two such extremes in this discussion. Either a) girls are ugly, lazy, and don't take care of themselves if they don't wear make up or b) girls who wear makeup are insecure. (not just singling you out here, you're not the only one who's expressed this opinion)

It obviously can't be both. So... how about we comprise and join reality? Some people like makeup. Some people don't. A girl should get to wear or not wear makeup whenever or however she pleases and people need to back off. Judge not and all that.

At a women in medicine interest group that I went to earlier this year, one of the female docs made a great point that women need to not judge other women's choices. This was more in relation to timing of having children and whether they wanted to work full, part, or no time, but I think it easily applies here. How about we take a step down from out high horses and realize some people have different preferences and let it be?
 
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Either a) girls are ugly, lazy, and don't take care of themselves if they don't wear make up or b) girls who wear makeup are insecure.
Er...I wasn't actually trying to push it that far. When I said "dolled up," I meant the whole 9 yards: the look you'd go for if you were going clubbing or something. I'm with you for the most part, but matters of personal preference are still up for debate. We had a few girls who skipped class constantly but got dressed up to come to gross lab. That was obviously what they preferred to do, but it's still very weird to me.
 
it is hot when girls show up to labs with see-through tank-tops and short-short skirts!
 
Er...I wasn't actually trying to push it that far. When I said "dolled up," I meant the whole 9 yards: the look you'd go for if you were going clubbing or something. I'm with you for the most part, but matters of personal preference are still up for debate. We had a few girls who skipped class constantly but got dressed up to come to gross lab. That was obviously what they preferred to do, but it's still very weird to me.

not trying to nit pick here, but 'going to class' = dedicated student? TONS of people don't go to class at my school - those girls don't dress up to go to gross, they are probably always dressed up because that's what they like to do everyday. Gross lab will not interfere with or stop their daily beauty regime. :laugh:

To each their own, whatever makes us happy, really. I get ready for the day by reading Terry Goodkind, they get ready by putting on makeup. Tomato , tomahto...
 
I'm not sure where the dedicated student thing plays into it, but what I was saying is that all they do is go to gross lab, perhaps the most terrible place imaginable, and dress nicely and primp for it. That doesn't make any sense.
 
I also think that people have different ideas of what getting "dolled up" implies.

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^I'd wear either of those dresses plus cute flats as a casual daytime look, but that's because it's my style. I tend to be on the "extreme" side of feminine. Another person might consider that to be "dolled up", but I don't.

Those are really cute, especially the first one (except the second one has a nicer color). Yeah, I wore a skirt the other day to our last required BS of the year and people were like, "oh you look cute! Why are you dressed up?" Just because they like to wear jeans every day of their life doesn't mean everyone else does. Actually, I prefer to be at home and in pj's but I'm just not comfortable wearing that in public. And when I'm spending almost every day at home in my pj's studying for finals/boards, it's nice to get a little dressier to go out into public just to look nice for once.

As far as gross lab, when that is your only required class activity, you don't want to look rough for the only time your classmates see you. I don't understand the dressing nice for anatomy lab b/c you'll get flecks of fat all over your clothes, but I don't see anything wrong with putting makeup on with your scrubs.
 
Just thought I'd add my two cents (but before I do I must address my slight ADD and ask why isn't there a cent symbol on the keyboard?)

I don't think anything's wrong with wearing make up, and I don't think anything's wrong with not wearing make up. I've don't really wear make up. I never did during highschool, and only did so on very rare occassions in college (when I felt like playing with make up). I mean I use lipgloss every now and then, but that doesn't really count as make up for me. I don't think I have bad skin, but I do use cleansers and moisturizers. If you treat your skin right and take care of it, most people won't really need make up to look pretty. And a lot of these people don't want to destroy their skin by making it a habit of using make up. Yes if you don't know enough about make up you can make your sking less attractive when you are in the natrual state. Well this is my problem anyway. I love my skin natural and when I do wear make up, I get restless if I have it on too long and I can't wait to get home and wash it away with my cleanser. Some people just like the natural look better, and if you can pull it off, I say why not.
 
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I mean I use lipgloss every now and then, but that doesn't really count as make up for me.

What aisle in the store did you purchase your lipgloss from? Frozen foods or feminine hygiene?
 
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The answer I got from this thread was just go with the status quo.

The only people still arguing are the ones who live in completely opposite places.
 
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What aisle in the store did you purchase your lipgloss from? Frozen foods or feminine hygiene?


They don't sell lipgloss in the frozen foods department, do they? lol. I usually get my lip gloss from the make up department or from some other store that sells feminine things like Victoria Secret's. Theirs is my favorite, because it actually has color and it actually keeps my lips moisturized not to mention it tastes good and it smells good when you put it on.

I am curious as to why you asked that question though.
 
They don't sell lipgloss in the frozen foods department, do they? lol. I usually get my lip gloss from the make up department or from some other store that sells feminine things like Victoria Secret's. Theirs is my favorite, because it actually has color and it actually keeps my lips moisturized not to mention it tastes good and it smells good when you put it on.

I am curious as to why you asked that question though.

I asked that question because you stated that you don't won't wear makeup but you wear lipgloss (which is a type of makeup). I was pointing out the hypocrisy in your post. 🙂

I haven't tried Victoria Secret's lipgoss. What kind do you like?
 
I asked that question because you stated that you don't won't wear makeup but you wear lipgloss (which is a type of makeup). I was pointing out the hypocrisy in your post. 🙂

I haven't tried Victoria Secret's lipgoss. What kind do you like?

Crispy Cream
 
I asked that question because you stated that you don't won't wear makeup but you wear lipgloss (which is a type of makeup). I was pointing out the hypocrisy in your post. 🙂

I haven't tried Victoria Secret's lipgoss. What kind do you like?

Well it's not really hypocrisy seeing as I didn't try to condemn either side of the argument, and I admitted that I do wear make up sometimes, though not very often. And as i said before I don't really see lipgloss as a form of make up, seeing as how some people can call Carmex lipgloss. That was me pointing out the cynicism in your post. 🙂

And I like the strawberry fizz and hot cocoanut. One is a summer and one is a fall.
 
This is absurd. First, truly beautiful women don't NEED to wear makeup, and they usually don't. The girls I know who wear the most makeup are the ones who look truly disgusting when they wake up in the morning.

No it's not absurd, actually. I said make-up is ALWAYS a good thing. And it is. If you don't want to wear it, fine. To each their own.

And are you implying you're "truly beautiful?" :laugh:

Furthermore, who are you to judge someone based on his or her appearance? How about you judge someone based on the quality of his or her work and the integrity of his or her character? Some people are born ugly -- that does not make them bad people, and they definitely shouldn't be shamed by pricks like you into having to wear makeup.

Woah! Who's talking about "ugliness," character, etc here? All I said was make-up is a good thing. Relax sweetheart.

This kind of attitude is best left in the horrors of European monarchical history where it belongs. Keep it out of medicine. Doctors should define themselves by the competency and passion of their work, not the flawlessness of their skin and manicures.

...Rant over.

I agree. Your intelligence comes first in our profession. No argument there. But can you please not look like a freakin trainwreck every morning? Again, I'm not asking for much. Shower, brush your teeth, wear clean clothes and a little lip-gloss/eye make-up so you don't look like you just rolled out of bed. Why are you having such a hard time with this?

I bet he loves fake tits too.

Actually I don't. And I'm the one making generalizations? 🙄

Wow, did you seriously pull that card? You must be an absolute treat to be around. :laugh: My God.

Yes I did. He made an unnecessary comment so I had to put him in his place. Don't insult my intelligence and I won't insult yours.
 
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No it's not absurd, actually. I said make-up is ALWAYS a good thing. And it is. If you don't want to wear it, fine. To each their own.

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Hahahahaha, you thought atomi was female based on what he said, so you tried to bolster your opinions by patronizing him to devalue his. Textbook. The fact that atomi is male is just gravy, and hilarious. :laugh: You are so busted.
 
First, I'm male. Second, you must never have kissed a girl if you think makeup is always a good thing. Third, I will choose to hire the balding female surgeon with busted teeth and a mustache based on her reputation alone and never consider the way she looks.

In my opinion, makeup is one of the most sexist things in existence (and for what it's worth, I hate feminism). Women should not have to endure such a ridiculous regime to make themselves presentable in the man's working world. They should be able to display the face that God gave them without modifications to satisfy the male ego and his desire to differentiate himself from womankind.

You want to know the purpose of lipstick? To make the lips appear more like the vulva. I think that's enough said.

And your point is? :laugh:

Here's your arguments flaw since you're failing miserably at thinking critically -- YOU'RE TALKING IN EXTREMES. The ultra-talented female surgeon who looks like a hairy beast vs. the dolled-up cutie with no brains. Please.

I have news for you buddy, some of the most intelligent females I've worked with also took pride in how they looked every morning. They were all-around superstars. THATs what I'm talking about.

Notice I didn't say anything about ugly women vs pretty women. That's in the eye of the beholder and a non-issue here so don't cloud this discussion with ridiculous comments like that.


Hahahahaha, you thought atomi was female based on what he said, so you tried to bolster your opinions by patronizing him to devalue his. Textbook. The fact that atomi is male is just gravy, and hilarious. :laugh: You are so busted.

Go away please....Thank you.
 
I'm curious about this, especially in the context of clinical rotations. I haven't started yet but am wondering, what are most peoples typical morning routines like? How much or how little makeup?
 
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Now who's generalizing, buddy?

What kind of shallow person takes pride in his or her physical appearance?




I really have to assume/hope that was sarcastic/made in jest, but on here you really can't tell.

And to be fair, you're twisting the argument around to make it seem like he's taking a stance he's not. No one's "correlating makeup use with intelligence." He was pointing out (I assume) that talking in extremes or mutually exclusive scenarios (hot and stupid vs. ugly and brilliant) is useless. All he was suggesting was that it's possible to be good at what you do and care about what you look like at the same time. Which is a no-brainer.
 
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Now who's generalizing, buddy?

So now you're correlating makeup use with intelligence? What kind of shallow person takes pride in his or her physical appearance?

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I really have to assume/hope that was sarcastic/made in jest, but on here you really can't tell.

And to be fair, you're twisting the argument around to make it seem like he's taking a stance he's not. He was pointing out (I assume) that talking in extremes or mutually exclusive scenarios (hot and stupid vs. ugly and brilliant) is useless. All he was suggesting was that it's possible to be good at what you do and care about what you look like at the same time. Which is a no-brainer.

Thank you.
 
Go away please....Thank you.

No, no, thank YOU. You keep providing the entertainment, I'm going to keep enjoying it.

To everyone else -

Can't we all agree that some people are more fundamentally attractive than others (and therefore need less effort to reach a given level), and that there is a professional responsibility to keep yourself presentable (no matter what your sex - clean, hair and clothing neatly arranged, situationally appropriate attire), but anything more should be left up to personal preference and that's it? If you want to be or be with someone with a natural style, go for it. You want to be or be with someone who puts more time into their appearance? Go for it.

It doesn't have to turn into a who's better or who's right thing. None of this really has anything to do with being a physician, and if the OP hadn't felt like there was a stigma associated with wearing makeup, it wouldn't have been posted. Moral of the story is that it's not the makeup or lack thereof that's the problem, it's the judgment.
 
it honestly doesnt take that much time to put on some eyeliner and mascara and maybe some sheer foundation in the morning.

eyeliner takes me ages if I don't want to look like Amy Winehouse with two black eyes.
 
eyeliner takes me ages if I don't want to look like Amy Winehouse with two black eyes.

When I took a make-up lesson with a make-up artist she finally taught me how to do this! Seriously the best money I ever spent.

Go to the store and get an eyeliner brush. Its a long thin brush with pretty hard bristles that meet at a point. You take the eyeliner and dot it along the eyelash line from the lateral corner of your eye to the middle (VERY LIGHT and if you're wearing it in the daytime you want to use a brown more than black) then you take the brush and spread it evenly and pull some of the color toward the medial border of your eye (staying right along the eyelashes) and even a bit more laterally if you want. It gives you a nice tapered line that makes your eyes stand out instead of making you look like you're wearing make up.

And if you want to do a little bit of eyeliner on the bottom without looking goth you then take the brush you just used and use the color thats still on it to make a nice light line on the lateral half of your lower eyelid. (But she said in general this is too much for daytime wear - it more for dinner/clubbing).

Try it! Now it takes me like 10 seconds to do my eyeliner and I don't look like I am from a 3 stooges episode.
 
This thread is a strange mixture of recriminations and bickering and practical make-up advice 🙂. I think the thing to bear in mind is that in an ideal world, people would be judged entirely on their merit. But in the real world, appearance plays a certain role; still, I'd like to hope that in a professional setting, as long as you look neat and put-together, you will be respected.

That said, looking good can give people a confidence boost 🙂. So if wearing make-up makes you feel like you look good, go for it. But really, the important thing is to feel good about your self, and this includes appearance and general health (if you don't think it's important, ask Darwin). I do 🙂.
 
eyeliner takes me ages if I don't want to look like Amy Winehouse with two black eyes.


One of my best friends was just like you last year🙂 She ended up being on our campus television show and had to learn how to do it. She was so funny to watch with eyeliner, she kept on trying so hard, and just looking silly. I finally just let her practice on me, and showed her some eyeliner to get. I'm not sure of the brand, but it's this twist up type (I get annoyed having to sharpen them) She was wonderful at it after about 3 weeks, it only takes her about 30 sec to finish her eyes now. Practicing on a friend is really helpful, since it's hard to practice doing something on your own eye without poking yourself. That was her difficulty was poking herself, and not being able to visualize what she was doing without both eyes open.
 
And I'm married, so I certainly don't have to look good for anyone other than me on rotations. I just hate looking like I'm deathly ill (or worse, OLD).

LOL I hear you there!

By the end of the year, most of us are so tired we don't even bother with makeup. Nobody really gives a crap how you look - we're all too busy cramming for exams 🙂
 
Wow, did you seriously pull that card? You must be an absolute treat to be around. :laugh: My God.

There's no way in hell I'd put on make-up to class if I were female. Most girls in my class don't, and I'd think it was weird if they did. Laziness nothing. It's called practicality. Given the nature of med school, it'd actually seem to me as though a girl who got dolled up every day was extremely insecure. I'm not sure that's the image you're going for, but whatever works for you.

This is exactly what the OP was asking about - why would you judge your classmates who wear more makeup than the 'medical student status quo' to be insecure? Just because she is a medical student, she must give up all things feminine? No makeup, no skirts, and 'god forbid' she wear heels!! Plenty of women in your life (I would daresay the majority in a non-graduate school environment) enjoy wearing makeup, do you think your professors are insecure? Your girlfriend? Your sister?
 
I have worn makeup to class everyday but my classmates don't think I wear makeup often. I do the no-makeup look most of the time--foundation or tinted moisturizer, blush, mascara, and lipstick or lip gloss; sometimes, I also wear eyeliner, eyeshadow and/or bronzer.
 
Hmm...I'm sort of conflicted about this.

I'm definitely a no-makeup sort of girl...I can objectively say that I'm pretty average looking and I always think it's sort of weird when ugly girls try to act like they're really hot, ex. Tori Spelling. Hot girls who think they're hot are annoying too, but at least they are right lol. I also feel like I'm deceiving other people when they compliment how good I look and Im wearing eyeliner or gloss.

On the other hand, let's say makeup improves a person's average rating by 2 points. So if I'm a 5 (average girl) surrounded by 6s who wear makeup (thus looking like 8s), I start looking relatively really ugly. It's well known that attractive people are generally preferred on a subconscious level by virtually everyone,even babies. So if you want to take advantage of this supposed benefit, makeup is good. Another thing is, even if you're a 10 without makeup, people sometimes take wearing light makeup has a sign of conscientiousness; ie. you are 'serious' and 'care' about your job.

I sort of think a lot of girls not wearing makeup is good for guys because they are getting so used to seeing nearly all girls with makeup nowadays that even a supermodel sort looks plain to them compared to the set of all previous female images they've seen. The difference between the image they're used to and reality could lead to subtle dissatisfaction. Even if you don't care about attracting a guy, having the collective put less emphasis on makeup decreases the pressure on the individual.

I definitely would wear makeup to a job interview or a wedding...but for class everyday?? Ultimately it's up to you...one person's 'caring about yourself' is another person's idea of vanity or wasting time.
 
It's well known that attractive people are generally preferred on a subconscious level by virtually everyone,even babies. So if you want to take advantage of this supposed benefit, makeup is good. Another thing is, even if you're a 10 without makeup, people sometimes take wearing light makeup has a sign of conscientiousness; ie. you are 'serious' and 'care' about your job.

I hear what you're saying, and at the same time, attractive girls will usually be stereotyped as shallow and/or stupid before they even say anything. So yeah they might be 'liked' more, but not necessarily seen as competent, which can be detrimental to a career. Additionally, if they rise to positions of power, many people (most often other women) will assume that she 'slept her way to the top' without considering that she may have been the most qualified person for the job.

Just some food for thought 🙂
 
Make up or no. Most of the medical students I've met are reasonably good looking, boys and girls. While make up runs light, because natural beauty is in vogue, They still are aware of appearances. You'll see the occasional guy slipping lip balm, hand moisturizers, eye drops (for the contacts that's irritating his eyes),etc.

Maintaining appearance requires discipline and time management, the same qualities required of medical students, so it's not suprising that medical students maintain some degree of self care.
 
I think it's a tad of a stretch to link the obesity epidemic with Americans being sloppy dressers.

As for makeup, I think you guys are not going to school in the south/midwest. In my neck of the woods, most of the female doctors and medical students wear makeup. I don't and am kind of a rarity. I live in a very conservative place (like the most red of red states) where appearance is very important for women -- we're very proud of our history of producing lots of Miss Americas. 🙄 So yeah, my female classmates are on the whole very attractive and put a lot of effort into their appearance.

My reasons for not wearing it are that it's expensive, and I like to sleep as much as I can. The skill thing mentioned above is true, too. I've never gotten into the habit of wearing makeup daily, so I'm always a little uncertain about how to go about it.

Same with my school - everyone is pretty put together (men and women) except for the rare few with hygeine issues.
 
I don't know if it's a generational thing but in my eyes, women tend to do a lot more harm than good when they 'put on for the city'. Sorry, couldn't resist a young jeezy reference.
 
hi everyone! i personally love makeup and skincare but most (95%) of my female classmates don't really care about it. in fact, there's almost a stigma that goes with wearing makeup and doing your hair! what gives? maybe they do care and just dont have time but it honestly doesnt take that much time to put on some eyeliner and mascara and maybe some sheer foundation in the morning. maybe there are like 3 three girls that regularly wear makeup but the rest love sporting the dark under eye circles! i know that on average the percentage of medschool girls that wear makeup is much less than the rest of the population due to having very little time but it's a little too extreme in my school. why the stigma? it's not just that there is no time.

I feel you. Sometimes it feels awkward that you're the only one who gives a **** on how you look. I started wearing makeup when I was in high school and being native of one of the most superficial cities in the world [Los Angeles] I learned how to look... well, more presentable. Maybe it's just their preference not to have it on or they're not used to makeup.
 
Question for you makeup savvy girls (or bois): so, I wear anything from the full eyeliner/eyeshadow/mascara + blush thing to just mascara and blush. Generally speaking I prefer the more natural look, so mostly just the blush and mascara. However, here's my question, I'd be more inclined to wear eyeshadow if there was a nice subtle cool (as in opposite of warm) palette. I look best in a vibrant purple actually, makes my grey/blue eyes pop, but there's no way I'm wearing that in a professional setting. I feel like the warm colors are more day-friendly for subtle highlighting, but they don't suit my coloring as well. Any suggestions? Like specific makeup lines/colors to check out would be awesome. I currently use a mix of mac/elf/origins/clinique.

Sorry to be on topic. 😀

ETA: I've got blond hair, pink skin undertones

Smashbox makes some cool eyeshadow palettes and kits, I love them because their brushes have to be some of the best, and come with the kit so its more affordable.
like this one: http://www.sephora.com/browse/product.jhtml?id=P242132&shouldPaginate=true&categoryId=3990

Or this one: http://www.sephora.com/browse/product.jhtml?id=P9880&shouldPaginate=true&categoryId=3990

I cant go without eye makeup. I feel so blah without it.
 
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