Misunderstood UCLA deadline, missed by 6hrs, what to do next?

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10/10 💩posting.

😡 I really like squirrels. " They're like rats... but in designer furs." 🙂 jk.

On a serious note - to whoever is going to cringe at what I posted above. Yes - there are serious issues in the world and yes I am aware that they're serious and people suffer from a variety of conditions. But at the same time - let's not take everything sooooo seriously! Medical school applications, medical school, and probably residency and later working in medicine is messed up enough to dwell on wording of posts and getting offended by what someone wrote on a forum. If we do - how are we going to cope with patients who call us "piece of (poop)" just because they're having a bad day, or with patients with an acute mental breakdown who bite/spit/throw feces at you? Let's all take it a little easier 🙂
 
A polite reminder to 2021-2022-NonTrad who wrote "Squirrel": naming an actual mammal by using a common name to bring up something that you see as common and ubiquitous may seem insignificant but can be hurtful. There is a lot of people who love Sciuridae. Consider using different natural examples. Just trying to increase awareness 🙂


I'm suspecting you might be a squirrel
 
We'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

It was already discussed earlier in the thread. The deadline is entirely arbitrary. There is no operational reason for it. And, they are making exceptions, based on nothing other than how motivated people are to call or e-mail and beg.

Unfair, unreasonable and arbitrary. I think it's oboxious. You don't. Agree to disagree. 🙂
Looks like we're gonna beat the dead horse:

1. Fair - Every person has the same deadline from when they receive the secondary. Every person is given the same warning. No person can affect when or if they receive the secondary.

2. Reasonable - Combined max length (including situational prompts) is under 1000 words. 14 days for 1k words or 4 pages is a deadline comparable to if not more lenient than a college writing course.

3. Arbitrary - Sure, I'll give you this one. They don't explain why they have it. It could just be they are looking for applicants who read directions and follow them, but that's my conjecture. But the important thing is that UCLA is one of the few schools that does this. Nothing is forcing people to apply to UCLA.

Obnoxious? Because it's a hard cutoff? Not everything in life offers a second chance. As someone earlier pointed out, if you don't submit your rank list on time (planning ahead for unforeseen circumstances/technical problems) you can't resubmit it. We're all adults ... time to be responsible and prove it.

I empathize with people who miss this deadline. Still, it doesn't help to lambast it as cruel when it isn't. It's strict. Oh well ... so are many parts of medicine.

To anyone struggling with deadlines or managing the flood, it's normal and ok. This process is long and complex, with many moving pieces. Keep track of secondary dates and deadlines in a spreadsheet or text document, and prioritize, prioritize, PRIORITIZE schools with deadlines. Submit before the deadline if you can. Another few hours of edits aren't worth risking the chance to apply.
 
As mentioned call and email and explain if any chance remains. I remember my roommate once missed a deadline by 60 seconds. If no luck, a tough pill to swallow but learn from it next time.
 
It's pretty unmistakable. I think the issue is that literal enforcement, down to the second, is so obnoxious that people can't believe it's actually happening, plus, of course, pathological procrastination that we are all guilty of from time to time.

"Your Secondary Application is due on the FIFTEENTH day (15th) from the date and time of this email."
Will you say the same of state medical boards that have strict deadlines for licensing requirements and deadlines for renewal?
 
Looks like we're gonna beat the dead horse:

1. Fair - Every person has the same deadline from when they receive the secondary. Every person is given the same warning. No person can affect when or if they receive the secondary.

2. Reasonable - Combined max length (including situational prompts) is under 1000 words. 14 days for 1k words or 4 pages is a deadline comparable to if not more lenient than a college writing course.

3. Arbitrary - Sure, I'll give you this one. They don't explain why they have it. It could just be they are looking for applicants who read directions and follow them, but that's my conjecture. But the important thing is that UCLA is one of the few schools that does this. Nothing is forcing people to apply to UCLA.

Obnoxious? Because it's a hard cutoff? Not everything in life offers a second chance. As someone earlier pointed out, if you don't submit your rank list on time (planning ahead for unforeseen circumstances/technical problems) you can't resubmit it. We're all adults ... time to be responsible and prove it.

I empathize with people who miss this deadline. Still, it doesn't help to lambast it as cruel when it isn't. It's strict. Oh well ... so are many parts of medicine.

To anyone struggling with deadlines or managing the flood, it's normal and ok. This process is long and complex, with many moving pieces. Keep track of secondary dates and deadlines in a spreadsheet or text document, and prioritize, prioritize, PRIORITIZE schools with deadlines. Submit before the deadline if you can. Another few hours of edits aren't worth risking the chance to apply.
What I think is unfair is that it's NOT applied equally to everyone, because some people ask for and receive exceptions, while others don't, and still others ask and are denied.

I think it's unreasonable, not because it's too much work in too little time, but because it's totally unnecessary and causes dire consequences for some.

Finally, yes, obnoxious. They are denying people an ability to pursue a dream. They are also denying themselves exposure to some applicants who might be highly desirable. They could also not do this and just reject all the procrastinators later, along with the vast majority of their pool, without making this a thing. Obnoxious.
 
Will you say the same of state medical boards that have strict deadlines for licensing requirements and deadlines for renewal?
No. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume there is a good reason for the deadlines, and that they are strictly applied to all, not subject to arbitrary exception based on the whim of a clerk.
 
The highly desirable applicants are probably also on top of knowing when the due dates are.
Most, but no reason to think all. Depends on what else they have going on, how many schools they applied to, whether they happened to notice that aberrational detail in the email, etc.
 
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