No one here can directly help you. E-mail the admissions office. The worst they can do is say no.
Yes I called/emailed as soon as I realized something had gone horribly wrong.
Ok. Not sure what else you're looking for here. They either let you submit it late or they don't.
Submit it before two weeks are up and you're golden
I think its still a confusing deadline, so if your secondary isn't greyed out yet I would try to submit it ASAP. Best guess is you will be locked out 360 hours (24x15) after you receive the invite email.
Nor, apparently, does an admissions office with explicit instructions from above.
Reasonable? 15 days and 1 second -- "No soup for you!!!"
Reasonable? 15 days and 1 second -- "No soup for you!!!"
It's the 4th week of July, a year before matriculation. What's reasonable about it? Their deadline for primaries is 10/1.
Agreed. I don't wait until the last minute, and I don't blow deadlines. But that's not the point. To knock someone out of the running in July over a hyper-OCD desire to try to control workflow is beyond crazy.
That's wonderful to hear! I ended up in the same boat last night when I was trying to save an essay to it at exactly 3 AM, thinking that I had a few more minutes, but it wouldn't let me. Was able to proceed to the payment page, but went back and tried to save the essay again, and by then everything including the payment page was grayed out.
They did not, unfortunately. The pits, but I will take this as a lesson and be more diligent. Not really looking for more, first gen stress and and freak out, I'll be okay lol
if this whole situation were a casper scenario, this response wouldnt give you very many points.Agreed. I don't wait until the last minute, and I don't blow deadlines. But that's not the point. To knock someone out of the running in July over a hyper-OCD desire to try to control workflow is beyond crazy.
I hope they lose a 3.9/520 candidate who can't meet the deadline because they are busy winning medals in Tokyo.
Given the number of people who turn them around super fast, the number of people who don't return them at all, and the number of people at all points in between, there is absolutely no reason to impose a strict deadline on their return prior to the ultimate deadline for everyone. This is why no other school does this.
In a parallel universe, candidates would refuse to submit secondaries that were not sent out within two weeks of primaries being submitted, but this is the sellers' market we find ourselves in. I think it's an unnecessary dick move, but everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion.
Okay. I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone, but I also don't think I'm misdescribing anything. Whoever in the admissions office decided that a secondary being returned more than 15 days and 1 second after it was sent out could not be included in the pool of applications being reviewed this cycle certainly has some type of disorder, considering that secondaries will be submitted between now and their deadline in October without any disturbance to the Earth's rotation around the Sun.A gentle reminder to the person who said "hyper-OCD": Using an actual illness to misdescribe behavior you see as uptight or unfavorable might seem insignificant but can be offensive. Consider using different descriptors. Just trying to increase awareness
I thought the expression was “Heart of a nurse, brain of a doctor” not the other way around?
No reason to be upset, they were clearly talking about oral contraceptive devices.A gentle reminder to the person who said "hyper-OCD": Using an actual illness to misdescribe behavior you see as uptight or unfavorable might seem insignificant but can be offensive. Consider using different descriptors. Just trying to increase awareness
They don't care. There is no shortage of applicants to medical school, and there are undoubtedly many more 3.9+ GPA/99th percentile or higher MCAT scorers than SDNers would like to acknowledge.I hope they lose a 3.9/520 candidate who can't meet the deadline because they are busy winning medals in Tokyo.
Given the number of people who turn them around super fast, the number of people who don't return them at all, and the number of people at all points in between, there is absolutely no reason to impose a strict deadline on their return prior to the ultimate deadline for everyone. This is why no other school does this.
Hey, trolls gotta troll.
Clearly!!
Or maybe it is, in fact, insignificant.A gentle reminder to the person who said "hyper-OCD": Using an actual illness to misdescribe behavior you see as uptight or unfavorable might seem insignificant but can be offensive. Consider using different descriptors. Just trying to increase awareness
UPDATE!!!!! I got in touch with the admissions office and got a 24 hour extension from an email sent yesterday. Finally submitted! Thanks for the well wishes everyone. Good luck
So I should be punished for using the time I'm allowed to work on a task? I don't think so.
can you pm me? I'm trying to get an extension as wellUPDATE!!!!! I got in touch with the admissions office and got a 24 hour extension from an email sent yesterday. Finally submitted! Thanks for the well wishes everyone. Good luck
Parkinson's law: work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion.
In fairness, no one is punished for using the time allowed. You get punished if you exceed the time. Bottom line - "Nike. Just do it!"
The "when is it due" mentality can be a destructive one during undergrad as it encourages procrastination. During the application cycle, it translates into a nail in the coffin.
It's pretty unmistakable. I think the issue is that literal enforcement, down to the second, is so obnoxious that people can't believe it's actually happening, plus, of course, pathological procrastination that we are all guilty of from time to time.
It unambiguously states the following:
We'll just have to agree to disagree on this.
Acceptances not being given out until October 15th is also arbitrary but we all kind of just agree on that 🤷♀️. Every due date ever is arbitrary. Believing something is arbitrary/obnoxious doesn’t make it any less real.We'll just have to agree to disagree on this.
It was already discussed earlier in the thread. The deadline is entirely arbitrary. There is no operational reason for it. And, they are making exceptions, based on nothing other than how motivated people are to call or e-mail and beg.
Unfair, unreasonable and arbitrary. I think it's oboxious. You don't. Agree to disagree.
And I never denied that UCLA had the absolute right to arbitrarily establish 1,296,000 seconds as the absolute deadline to return their precious secondary, unless you are motivated to call or e-mail them with a moving excuse, in which case they also have the right to grant an arbitrary exception, or not.
A polite reminder to 2021-2022-NonTrad who wrote "Squirrel": naming an actual mammal by using a common name to bring up something that you see as common and ubiquitous may seem insignificant but can be hurtful. There is a lot of people who love Sciuridae. Consider using different natural examples. Just trying to increase awareness
10/10 💩posting.A polite reminder to 2021-2022-NonTrad who wrote "Squirrel": naming an actual mammal by using a common name to bring up something that you see as common and ubiquitous may seem insignificant but can be hurtful. There is a lot of people who love Sciuridae. Consider using different natural examples. Just trying to increase awareness
