Most applicants don't get in. Will you?

[UGuysRIdiots]

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Answer the title and explain why. A quick search on LSU's website showed that only 2 out of 22 OOS applicants (which most of us are) get in! Other school statistics are probably similar. Don't argue the numbers, just keep it real and think about your chances! Are you the best? Why would vet schools want you?

 

[No Imagination]

Answer the title and explain why.

Already did (got in, 2.9 undergrad GPA, 3.6 graduate) - grades are not everything. Looking at the people who have 3.9+ who do not get in, I would say that grades do not matter as much as you would think (as long as you are competitive and well rounded in other areas)

A quick search on LSU's website showed that only 2 out of 22 OOS applicants (which most of us are) get in!

While you cited numbers for 1 vet school, they so not tell the whole picture. Perhaps you should avoid making rationalization based on "Quick searches".

Other school statistics are probably similar.

No they are not similar

Some vet schools are notorious for taking very few OOS, while others take 60% or more. A single statistic from a single school tells us nothing about other peoples chances at getting in - and is quite misleading.

Don't argue the numbers

Why not, they are wrong

Are you the best? Why would vet schools want you?

I am not the best - but I got in.

 

[splashie]

Having applied to LSU this year, I know the numbers you're seeing are actually the number of admission offers made this year. 2 out of 22 people offered admission for out of state have accepted their seat at LSU (thus far). I'm fairly certain many more people have applied. If you check last year's stats, 507 people applied OOS and they accepted 18.

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[nyanko]

😱 you know, you're right! Vet school is hard to get into!

Here I thought this was like applying to man the fry station at McDonald's...vet school's only a 2 year degree, isn't it? I mean, my cousin studies vet stuff down at the community college and she ain't too bright, you know what I'm sayin.

Guess I better just give up now. Hope McDonald's is still hiring....



(1/10 unoriginal 😴 )

 

[cRose]

Are you the best? Why would vet schools want you?

I am responding to this post merely to state that I sincerely hope that no other beloved SDNers play into this ridiculous game.

Clearly, no one is "the best" when it comes to applying to any professional school, let alone veterinary school.

And UGuysRIdiots, it's none of your business why any vet school would want anyone, except for why any would want YOU.

This SDN forum is meant to be a network of information, support, advice, and sometimes stress relief. Your thread's prompt inspires none of these. I get that your message is probably meant to get people to realistically consider their chances of an acceptance, but, and I admittedly speak brazenly for ALL of those on the pre-vet forum, WE HAVE.

So try to ask these questions of YOURSELF. Not of us.

Edit: nyanko, I <3 you.

 

[LVT2DVM]

:troll:

This is a forum for people who can be supportive and show mutual respect. Obviously this is not you. Please go elsewhere.

 

[GeeQued]

Answer the title and explain why. A quick search on LSU's website showed that only 2 out of 22 OOS applicants (which most of us are) get in! Other school statistics are probably similar. Don't argue the numbers, just keep it real and think about your chances! Are you the best? Why would vet schools want you?

If you put the effort in then anything is possible. I've been accepted at 4 schools and waitlisted at 3. My GPA is a 3.5 which isn't quite up to competitive but Ive made myself well rounded and a competitive individual through having diverse and unique experiences, a stellar set of LORs, and a well thought through personal statement that brought everything to light I wanted them to see and then doing well on my interviews didnt hurt either.

 

[Poochlover11]

Answer the title and explain why. A quick search on LSU's website showed that only 2 out of 22 OOS applicants (which most of us are) get in! Other school statistics are probably similar. Don't argue the numbers, just keep it real and think about your chances! Are you the best? Why would vet schools want you?

How can you argue that you will get in or that you are the best? From year to year you have no idea who you are competing against. It isn't so much that you attain a certain number of requirements-it is more about the people that applied that year and what the adcoms are looking for. Someone may get in with a 3.1 over someone with a 4.0. I think it would be very difficult to say why I am the best when I have no idea what the competition is like.

 

[alliecat44]

How can you argue that you will get in or that you are the best? From year to year you have no idea who you are competing against. It isn't so much that you attain a certain number of requirements-it is more about the people that applied that year and what the adcoms are looking for. Someone may get in with a 3.1 over someone with a 4.0. I think it would be very difficult to say why I am the best when I have no idea what the competition is like.

Yay 3.1 undergrad GPA! 😀 (actually I think a 3.0) Sorry, just had to reiterate the whole "look at the entire applicant" thing.

 

[vnair2]

Resisting the urge to reply to the ***** nugget who started this topic is so hard.

 

[rachroo]

With a name like 'uguysridiots' I'm not going to even bother.

:troll:

 

[rouxeny]

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[WildlifeSaver]

I don't get this person at all. He posted in the "mostly Bs" thread. At first, seeming like he knew it all while displaying anger at everyone's replays and reiterated his anger once more. After that, he apologized to me and tried to joke with someone to make things seem kool.

He showed that he/she wanted to be accepted but got off to the wrong foot? Or just..yeah..

My theories are:

1) he/she has real bad social skills that needs to be worked on

2)troll

3)lack of understanding of pre-vets and the process or people in general

4) ?___? any other thoughts

5) all of the above?

This might be someone else that we know on this forum with a different SDN name and who? I have no clue.

 

[nyanko]

Obviously this person just wants to make us all be introspective and really think about this question for when we're asked during our interviews. See, it's all there to help....

Thanks buddy! 😀

 

[twelvetigers]

I don't think it really matters. I know I won't be losing any sleep over it, at any rate.

ETA: Jinx!

 

[Caninerepro]

I'm just glad we finally found someone who is a bigger a** / more socially inept than I am! 😱

 

[GeeQued]

I don't get this person at all. He posted in the "mostly Bs" thread. At first, seeming like he knew it all while displaying anger at everyone's replays and reiterated his anger once more. After that, he apologized to me and tried to joke with someone to make things seem kool.

He showed that he/she wanted to be accepted but got off to the wrong foot? Or just..yeah..

My theories are:

1) he/she has real bad social skills that needs to be worked on

2)troll

3)lack of understanding of pre-vets and the process or people in general

4) ?___? any other thoughts

5) all of the above?

This might be someone else that we know on this forum with a different SDN name and who? I have no clue.

Or hes secretly angered that he failed to make himself a competitive applicant and got denied written all over his face this app cycle.

 

[DVMorBust]

Or hes secretly angered that he failed to make himself a competitive applicant and got denied written all over his face this app cycle.

I wasn't gonna say it 🙂

PS - did this poster say he/she was a he? If not, I find it slightly amusing that on a board for professional and pre-professional students that are 80% female, everyone jumps to the 'he'.

 

[david594]

On a more honest note I really had no reasonable expectation of getting in this cycle.

Looking at the stats last year based on number of applicants versus how many actually started attending US vet schools last year it was only like 46%.

I'd really be curious what the odds are for SDN as compared to the applicant pool as a whole. I think we might be rather far from an accurate representation of the whole applicant pool.

 

[UGuysRIdiots]

This SDN forum is meant to be a network of information, support, advice, and sometimes stress relief. Your thread's prompt inspires none of these. I get that your message is probably meant to get people to realistically consider their chances of an acceptance, but, and I admittedly speak brazenly for ALL of those on the pre-vet forum, WE HAVE.

K good. Then let's stop telling people with 2.5s and 100hrs experience that they will get in. I just want truth, not false hope.

3)lack of understanding of pre-vets and the process or people in general

Correct. I don't get you guys. Apparently I've come off as a jerk. Totally not my intentions! Rose's quote says it all. That's all I'm trying to do. Instead of telling me how mean/stupid/socially inept i am, why don't you just help me? Tell me the truth. I don't need your hugs because they will not get me into vet school!

Or hes secretly angered that he failed to make himself a competitive applicant and got denied written all over his face this app cycle.

Clever, but incorrect.

I don't get this person at all. He posted in the "mostly Bs" thread. At first, seeming like he knew it all while displaying anger at everyone's replays and reiterated his anger once more. After that, he apologized to me and tried to joke with someone to make things seem kool.

Are you following me?😎

Obviously this person just wants to make us all be introspective and really think about this question for when we're asked during our interviews. See, it's all there to help....

Thanks buddy!

You're right! And you're welcome! 😀

PS - did this poster say he/she was a he? If not, I find it slightly amusing that on a board for professional and pre-professional students that are 80% female, everyone jumps to the 'he'.

lol

I have so much more to say but this message is getting far too long. I doubt it wouldn't bring entertainment to the forums though. I thank those of you who were mature enough to actually answer the original question. For the rest of you, no hard feelings. 😛

 

[No Imagination]

I just want truth, not false hope.
Why don't you just help me?
Tell me the truth. I don't need your hugs because they will not get me into vet school!

This is all i took from your last post.

You want the truth, you kidding? Fine, simple answers to what will get you into vet school, guaranteed. "If you do what you need to do to get into vet school, you will be accepted, no questions, no if's and's or but's".

If you want help, grow a pair and post your statistics, and I am sure plenty of people will be willing to tell you your chances of getting accepted. Instead your asking to see everyone else's stats (and most of us already posted ours they can be found on this very forum by doing a search).

Truth is nice, but don't dismiss hugs - they can easily lead to other things that can get you into vet school.

I know I maybe feeding a troll, but its a symbiotic relationship guys. I get some perverted sense of satisfaction promoting nerd-rage - and if I am not, then I am helping someone out, all the better 🙂 I care, deeply

 

[WildZooVet]

Well yes IDIOT, many if not all of us got in. And the rest of us will. Thanks for asking

 

[Poochlover11]

This is all i took from your last post.

You want the truth, you kidding? Fine, simple answers to what will get you into vet school, guaranteed. "If you do what you need to do to get into vet school, you will be accepted, no questions, no if's and's or but's".

If you want help, grow a pair and post your statistics, and I am sure plenty of people will be willing to tell you your chances of getting accepted. Instead your asking to see everyone else's stats (and most of us already posted ours they can be found on this very forum by doing a search).

Truth is nice, but don't dismiss hugs - they can easily lead to other things that can get you into vet school.

I know I maybe feeding a troll, but its a symbiotic relationship guys. I get some perverted sense of satisfaction promoting nerd-rage - and if I am not, then I am helping someone out, all the better 🙂 I care, deeply

You amuse me

 

[DreamComeTrue09]

To the OP, maybe you should answer that question yourself? By the way, what a mature screen name you have! Definitely ready for vet school yourself, huh? 😉

 

[zpinkpanther]

If you want help, grow a pair and post your statistics

That is my favorite part of this whole silly thread. Thank you 🙂

 

[CatVet2Be]

K good. Then let's stop telling people with 2.5s and 100hrs experience that they will get in. I just want truth, not false hope.

My undergrad GPA was less than a 2.5. I start vet school this September.

So a low GPA doesn't make it impossible, harder yes, but not impossible if you're willing to do things to correct it. I retook classes, took honors courses and piled on the units per semester to show I could handle a heavy course load. You can call it false hope if you want but it doesn't change the fact that the adcoms can look at more than your narrow view of what a prevet student should look like.

I get some perverted sense of satisfaction promoting nerd-rage

🤣

 

[nyanko]

Truth is nice, but don't dismiss hugs - they can easily lead to other things that can get you into vet school.

Not for most people who tend to aggregate on the internet. 😉

 

[BR549]

PS - did this poster say he/she was a he? If not, I find it slightly amusing that on a board for professional and pre-professional students that are 80% female, everyone jumps to the 'he'.

I was thinking the same thing! Maybe its because in languages the masculine gender is usually dominant and can be inclusive (at least in Latin)?? At any rate, to the OP, I think you got the response you did because of your screen name. If you were to change it, to let's say, "ImAnIdiot", no one would've been offended. As others have already stated, most of us have already been accepted, so we are at least accepted as "idiots". Oh well. If you are serious about vet med, best of luck in your future endeavors!🙂

 

[Poochlover11]

I was thinking the same thing! Maybe its because in languages the masculine gender is usually dominant and can be inclusive (at least in Latin)?? At any rate, to the OP, I think you got the response you did because of your screen name. If you were to change it, to let's say, "ImAnIdiot", no one would've been offended. As others have already stated, most of us have already been accepted, so we are at least accepted as "idiots". Oh well. If you are serious about vet med, best of luck in your future endeavors!🙂

I agree. I noticed up above you said you didn't mean to come off as rude. I think that you already made people defensive with your screen name. If you don't want to offend people I would recommend changing your screen name to something else.

 

[twelvetigers]

Present yourself to us as a real person with real problems, and without the accusatory tone or ridiculous username, and of course we'll treat you with respect and try to help you. There's always a chance to start over - new username and a better start - we'd never even have to know that it was you. Your choice.

 

[No Imagination]

Poochlover11 and BR

I completely disagree. I didn't even notice his SN until later, and i didn't read the "B" thread beforehand. Nahh, his post was inflammatory, misleading and offered nothing but an ill contrived question and jaundiced point of view.

 

[BR549]

Poochlover11 and BR

I completely disagree. I didn't even notice his SN until later, and i didn't read the "B" thread beforehand. Nahh, his post was inflammatory, misleading and offered nothing but an ill contrived question and jaundiced point of view.

Yeah, the title was completely derisive (I just reread the post, and it was too). I just usually don't place much stock in such comments. I guess it's because I am used to being cursed at daily; it takes a lot to be inflammatory to me now!

 

[invivovet]

Ok, this is completely off topic but I have some questions that are nagging at me...

I saw a few people refer to UGuysRIdiots as a troll. What exactly is a troll? Are they like high-jackers with bad intentions? Someone who is completely disinterested in the forum's purpose but will post to upset others? Also, how did they come to be referred to as trolls?

This is the first and only forum I've followed... please educate me on the lingo 😳

If you wish my post to be more stimulating, you could also take my questions from a philosophical stance. 😀

 

[twelvetigers]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

😀 Wiki has all the answers.

 

[invivovet]

Thanks buddy!

 

[Poochlover11]

Poochlover11 and BR

I completely disagree. I didn't even notice his SN until later, and i didn't read the "B" thread beforehand. Nahh, his post was inflammatory, misleading and offered nothing but an ill contrived question and jaundiced point of view.

Really? I notice people's screen names right away-especially this one (UGuysRIdiots-its hard to help someone out when they are calling you an idiot). I was curious about "No Imagination" immediately-wanting to know if you were a blah person with zero imagination and creativity or something.

 

[No Imagination]

I was curious about "No Imagination" immediately-wanting to know if you were a blah person with zero imagination and creativity or something.

LoL, and what did you decide?

Ohh, and I didn't check the wiki article, but a troll is someone who "Trolls", like in fishing (drags a line), and try's to get people to bite.

I used to think they were kids with crazy pink hair living under bridges...

 

[Poochlover11]

LoL, and what did you decide?

Hmm.........still deciding. Lol

 

[twelvetigers]

I think that he has no imagination insofar as coming up with a username... the rest, well, who knows. 😉

 

[BR549]

LoL, and what did you decide?

Ohh, and I didn't check the wiki article, but a troll is someone who "Trolls", like in fishing (drags a line), and try's to get people to bite.

I used to think they were kids with crazy pink hair living under bridges...

I was thinking of Billy Goats Gruff! I don't even think they read that in elementary school anymore. Another piece of Americana lost.🙁

 

[dyachei]

I was thinking of Billy Goat Gruff! I don't even think they read that in elementary school anymore. Another piece of Americana lost.🙁

I always imagine the billy goats gruff, too. But even as a kid I wondered about that story....it glorified selling out your brothers.

 

[invivovet]

I used to think they were kids with crazy pink hair living under bridges...

...with diamonds embedded in their belly buttons...

Your fishing explanation of trolling was mentioned in the wiki article, pretty interesting stuff.

 

[UGuysRCool]

At any rate, to the OP, I think you got the response you did because of your screen name. If you were to change it, to let's say, "ImAnIdiot", no one would've been offended. As others have already stated, most of us have already been accepted, so we are at least accepted as "idiots". Oh well. If you are serious about vet med, best of luck in your future endeavors!🙂

I think that you already made people defensive with your screen name. If you don't want to offend people I would recommend changing your screen name to something else.

Present yourself to us as a real person with real problems, and without the accusatory tone or ridiculous username, and of course we'll treat you with respect and try to help you.

Thank you for your love and support🙂 If you can care enough to help someone who called you idiots I have no doubt you will care enough to help an animal that is trying to bite you, scratch you, whatever. As an administrator of the Veterinary Medical College Application Service (VMCAS) I will make sure your applications have a "gold star." No just kidding. But I did change my screen name 😀

 

[CatVet2Be]

 

[StayingHopeful]

You read my mind! 😛

 

[eventualeventer]

...with diamonds embedded in their belly buttons...

Those kind tend to be lacking in the underwear department, but, seeing as how they are lacking in the anatomy department as well, I guess it's not such a bad mental image.
http://eatourbrains.com/EoB/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/troll.jpg

I love the term nerd-rage!

To the OP, I give myself about a 50-50 chance of getting in somewhere this fall. My grades are not the best but there is an upward trend and I have decent experience. I have a plan B. No one can predict the future, so we all try to balance hope with optimism and come here to vent our frustrations and entertain each other.

We also come for the happy banana emoticons. Who can be downtrodden about what might or might not happen this year when you're looking at a happy banana doing aerobics?

Yes, I am procrastinating, in case you were wondering.

 

[twelvetigers]

That nanner ain't doing aerobics... it's dancing.

PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME, PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!

I really hope everyone knows what I'm referring to. Lol 😆

 

[Truth74]

K good. Then let's stop telling people with 2.5s and 100hrs experience that they will get in. I just want truth, not false hope.


Instead of telling me how mean/stupid/socially inept i am, why don't you just help me? Tell me the truth. I don't need your hugs because they will not get me into vet school!

Okay,

I'm glad the name has changed and all, and I hope that the attitude will go along with it.

Speaking as a multiple time waitlister, the intent of the thread wasn't so great.

There a reapplicants and non-trads on this forum who work very hard to get those interviews and get into vet school. I can understand the enthusiasm to get on the board and make some waves, but I would recommend doing a search (of the accepted applicant threads, at the least) before making blanket judgments that the ad coms obviously don't agree with.

To answer the OP, A lot of the statistics will overlap, because applicants apply to more than one school. The same person could be counted at all of them, if they could afford the application and supplemental fees. I think we have a pretty good representation of the applicant population, including the lurkers .

I sincerely think that the ad coms look for different things, in different years, with different gpa averages. The application cycles and questions asked are similar, but never the same, so you can only be the best applicant you can be for that given cycle.

Oh, and...
Try to be more open to people.
Unless you plan on applying to places that don't give interviews, you will need to work on how you present yourself to someone else. Even then, you'll need to interact with some of these people, later. Vet med is a very close knit and team oriented profession. You'll be seeing the same people in CE and conferences for the rest of your career.

Good luck.

P.S. Twelvetigers this for you.
Do you remember Sesame Street? Peanut, Peanut Butter, and Jelly.

 

[sumstorm]

I was accepted with a 3.36 overall and pre-req GPA that is 8 years old (meaning that almost all my pre-reqs are a decade old.)

I believe I was accepted because my entire career path has contributed to my ability as a future veterinarian.

I think having practiced with veterinarians in half a dozen countries and on hundreds of species helped. I believe knowing hoof and mouth exposure management helped. I am willing to bet that my 3.4 combined with extremly long working hours in college along with a lifetime of livestock experience added value to my application.

I actually have a similar attitude about 'false hope.' I actually used that term when I was waiting on news from the last school I heard from. I told my husband 'don't give me false hope!' but as he pointed out....it isn't over until all the decisions are in and you have walked away from the process. There are other options, including Ross, out there. Each individual must weight the costs and benefits to the path they chose, whether it is applying multiple times, attending a grad program to improve thier application, asking for grade forgiveness, or in selecting the programs.

I believe that it is POSSIBLE for most individuals who are dedicated to the concepts of becoming veterinarians to do so....and only they can decide whether the additional costs of alternative pathways are viable.

 

[Poochlover11]

I love the term nerd-rage!

So is this the equivalent of "banana rage?"

Haha!

Ok, sorry. That was really corny. 😀