MPH-Health Policy/Management

[bbas]

Hey guys,
Just wondering whether anyone got a MPH in Health Policy and/or Management. If so, what kinds of jobs do people with these degrees normally get. I've noticed that alot of the hospital CEO's,COO's, etc. have either the MD or an MBA or both. What kind of salary can someone with the MPH expect?

Any info or links to websites where I can read more about these degrees would be appreciated.

EDIT: Also, are people with science backgrounds admitted to these programs or do you have to major in business?

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[DrMom]

I did an MPH in admin & policy without any business background. I was an asst. administrator for a non-profit (I only worked part-time at that point). Some of my classmates ran nursing homes, labs, did hospital administration, were full-time clinical faculty, etc. The salaries varied a ton depending on the type of position.

 

[bbas]

I did an MPH in admin & policy without any business background. I was an asst. administrator for a non-profit (I only worked part-time at that point). Some of my classmates ran nursing homes, labs, did hospital administration, were full-time clinical faculty, etc. The salaries varied a ton depending on the type of position.

Thanks for the info. So would you say the MPH is a good "stand alone" degree, or is it more useful if you already have another degree such as an MD or MBA?

 

[DrMom]

Thanks for the info. So would you say the MPH is a good "stand alone" degree, or is it more useful if you already have another degree such as an MD or MBA?

You can certainly make use of an MPH without a medical degree or other professional degree. My MPH left me 5 classes short of an MBA, so it wouldn't have taken much to add a second degree and if I hadn't been planning on attending med school I'd have done it.

 

[bds lagos]

Hey guys,
I have a BDS degree and i want an mph....is there any school at all with no need for english proficiency (ielts, toefl etc.) ?

 

[Stories]

Hey guys,
I have a BDS degree and i want an mph....is there any school at all with no need for english proficiency (ielts, toefl etc.) ?

There won't be in the United States, unless you count Puerto Rico where you have to have Spanish fluency.

 

[gumbyj]

Does anyone have any insight in the salaries one can expect after an MPH in Health Policy and Management. I am currently making decent money, but I would love to go back to school and get an MPH, but I get concerned when I read about the post-graduation salaries being lower than what I currently make.

 

[RAMPA]

Does anyone have any insight in the salaries one can expect after an MPH in Health Policy and Management. I am currently making decent money, but I would love to go back to school and get an MPH, but I get concerned when I read about the post-graduation salaries being lower than what I currently make.

Without divulging too much info, in what part of the country are you located and what is your salary +/- 10%?

 

[364462]

Does anyone have any insight in the salaries one can expect after an MPH in Health Policy and Management. I am currently making decent money, but I would love to go back to school and get an MPH, but I get concerned when I read about the post-graduation salaries being lower than what I currently make.

I would imagine that this varies across job sectors. It is common to make $40-60k, but again there will be variability (e.g., governmental versus NGO work, federal versus local, private versus pubic sector, etc.). Also, many MPH programs are specifically for folks who already have advanced degrees, in which the MPH is a specialization or an enhancement. I would think that for these folks they would be earning more - or at the very least, starting at a higher salary grade compared to someone without the initial advanced degree. Someone in my field can make $80-100k without the MPH. You can imagine what the MPH would do post-graduation.

 

[healthdisparity]

Does anyone have any insight in the salaries one can expect after an MPH in Health Policy and Management. I am currently making decent money, but I would love to go back to school and get an MPH, but I get concerned when I read about the post-graduation salaries being lower than what I currently make.

Administrative fellowship makes $45-55k for 1-2 years. Depending on where you live, that jumps up to 60-90k if hired full time by hospital (90k obviously NY/SF).

Consulting usually start between $55-70k, unless you go big time (MBB).

Most people don't understand health administration is not as lucrative a profession as one would think. Physicians make way more. And compared to bankers/business, not even close. Sure some CEOs are pulling 7 figures with compensation, but it's also one position overseeing 2,000-3,000 employees.

With all that being said, I know some people with prior experience (~5 years), who skipped fellowships or entry level consulting positions pulling 80-100k right after graduation. Just depends I guess.

 

[Shuffle]

Administrative fellowship makes $45-55k for 1-2 years. Depending on where you live, that jumps up to 60-90k if hired full time by hospital (90k obviously NY/SF).

Consulting usually start between $55-70k, unless you go big time (MBB).

Most people don't understand health administration is not as lucrative a profession as one would think. Physicians make way more. And compared to bankers/business, not even close. Sure some CEOs are pulling 7 figures with compensation, but it's also one position overseeing 2,000-3,000 employees.

With all that being said, I know some people with prior experience (~5 years), who skipped fellowships or entry level consulting positions pulling 80-100k right after graduation. Just depends I guess.

That's good to hear. After working as a provider consultant, I accepted a position with a payer and decided to delay grad school for another 3-4 years. I would rather get an MHA/MPH than an MBA but have heard and seen differing things regarding how the degrees compare for those with experience. Once in industry, people at high levels have all kinds of degrees (many with just a bachelor's) but there doesn't seem to be much of a consensus on a Health Management and Policy grad program as a so-called "MBA substitute."

Can you shed some light on what level (Manager, Director, etc) those who skipped administrative fellowships joined their health systems?

Also, any idea if the consulting positions obtained by those with experience were also in the 80-100k range? MBA's with ~5 years experience receive compensation packages of ~120-200k all in from the likes of MBB, Deloitte, PWC, etc. Don't get me wrong, consultants put in the hours for that paycheck, but would be pretty disappointing to receive such a lower comp structure based on the letters of your degree (even with the lower cost of an MHA or MPH compared to an MBA).

 

[RAMPA]

That's good to hear. After working as a provider consultant, I accepted a position with a payer and decided to delay grad school for another 3-4 years. I would rather get an MHA/MPH than an MBA but have heard and seen differing things regarding how the degrees compare for those with experience. Once in industry, people at high levels have all kinds of degrees (many with just a bachelor's) but there doesn't seem to be much of a consensus on a Health Management and Policy grad program as a so-called "MBA substitute."

Can you shed some light on what level (Manager, Director, etc) those who skipped administrative fellowships joined their health systems?

Also, any idea if the consulting positions obtained by those with experience were also in the 80-100k range? MBA's with ~5 years experience receive compensation packages of ~120-200k all in from the likes of MBB, Deloitte, PWC, etc. Don't get me wrong, consultants put in the hours for that paycheck, but would be pretty disappointing to receive such a lower comp structure based on the letters of your degree (even with the lower cost of an MHA or MPH compared to an MBA).

A friend of mine obtained a MHA/MPH degree rather than a MBA and was still hired on at PwC as a Senior Associate (consultant).

 

[Shuffle]

A friend of mine obtained a MHA/MPH degree rather than a MBA and was still hired on at PwC as a Senior Associate (consultant).

Good to know, RAMPA...thanks. Any idea if your friend obtained an MBA-level salary from PwC or if his offer was lower (not looking for a number, just similar to MBA or lower)? Resources from consulting blogs and by speaking with others in consulting has provided mixed views, with most leaning to a lower comp structure (albeit not a statistically valid sample size ). Feel free to PM if more comfortable with that. I figured others may find this information useful as well.

 

[gumbyj]

Without divulging too much info, in what part of the country are you located and what is your salary +/- 10%?

Major east coast city. ~50

 

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