Ms1 q&a

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Startswithb,

First let me say I'm a big fan. I followed your posts on the SIU boards up through your acceptance and your positive attitude through it all were a great encouragement to me.

I will be starting at SIU in August and am curious about the group dynamics in two respects:

What are the individual expectations for the PBL groups? Is it pretty much a deconstruction of the problem with each group member assigned to a specific task? If so, who assigns the tasks?

How does the class officer thing go down? I'm not necesarilly interested in a leadership position (not sure I'll have the time for it, I'm a non trad who is married with 2 kids.) but I am interested in the process.

Also, I'm a big fan of asking this question:

What sorts of things should I definately NOT do during M1? (omit the obvious stuff, I am aware that killing people and robbing banks is a bad idea. Just looking to avoid the big mistakes that I don't necessarilly know about yet.)

Deekle,

Nice to meet you! Welcome to SIU. 🙂

PBL tasks that are assigned are reading the patient information on the computer and writing the information on the white boards. These we just trade off on. Presenting learning issues is assigned in some groups and in most groups, everyone does all the learning issues and one person just starts talking about a topic and we naturally trade off. Everyone will be expected to contribute during the learning issue discussions, even if it was not your assigned topic, and everyone will ask the "patient" questions and give feedback on their ideas and pose questions to the group. The worse thing you can do in PBL is not speak up. It's hard to get a sense of how PBL works until you actually start it, but it shouldn't take long until it becomes a very natural process.

At the beginning of the year the class officer positions will be explained and a few weeks later you will have class elections. Most people campaigned by sending emails to the class or having "office hours" in the lounge to explain their desire and qualifications for the position. Getting to know people early on is probably the best way to campaign, because we still barely know one another when elections take place. As far as time commitment, excluding admissions committee, it is not a big deal. I had a committee position and it was only an hour to hour and a half once a month to attend a meeting. Oh! And the class should be getting a "first year handbook" written by the previous first year class with tons of tips about these positions, places to live, books to use, how to study, etc. It is very helpful.

What not to do in first year: don't blow off tutor group and studying. Don't get behind on your learning issues. Do the SAQs (practice questions given at the end of each case). Speak UP in tutor group but don't talk over people. Be humble. Accept when you are wrong and accept criticism. PBL requires a lot of people skills and you are required to evaluate yourself and group members and give this feedback in person twice during each unit. Become close with your classmates, they are awesome. I could go on, but you will learn all of this as you go through. First year is very challenging but very FUN and you will be amazed at how much you learn.
 
NickNaylor, you said you live with your girlfriend. Is she in your class? I've lived with my girlfriend for the past 2 years (she'll be an M3 tomorrow) and I can't imagine two M1/M2s having time for each other unless they were on pretty similar study schedules. Was it/is it difficult for you two to make it work?

I'm also under the impression that by living with an M1/M2, I have a pretty good idea of what the pre-clinical workload is like. Are you inclined to agree or do you think I'll still be as surprised/overwhelmed as the other M1s? I'm not saying I will be able to handle it better, but I do think that I'll be more prepared for it coming in. Not sure if that makes sense though...?

No, she has absolutely nothing to do with medicine, though she is going to go back to school to get a RN. There is, however, a married couple in my class (i.e., both are in the class). It's not that hard, but as I said I intentionally try and maintain a solid work/LIFE balance. But yes, it can be difficult for your SO to understand why you have to study so much (as I'm sure you've experienced). My parents seem to think that it's ridiculous that I need to study a few hours a day when I'm at home to keep up with school.

You will have some idea of the workload is right, however you will have no idea what the feelings are like. Knowing that you have a ****load of work to do is one thing. Knowing that and feeling absolutely overwhelmed and as if there's nothing you can do to make you pass an exam is quite another.
 
1) It was more difficult than I imagined, but way, way more fun than I imagined. I can honestly say that this is a close second for undergrad in terms of how much fun I'm having.

2) You'll get through it. The transition is rough, and you almost certainly will feel overwhelmed and freaked out at some point. However, you get through it - you figure out new ways of studying and become more efficient, and your ability to just memorize and learn things gets MUCH better as time goes on. I look back at anatomy now and wonder why I struggled so much with it. You really do adjust to the new equilibrium and get used to it such that it's no longer extremely stressful. Make no mistake, you have to work hard, but that feeling of panic and constant "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH."

3) Meeting new people, coming to a new city, and learning things that I actually care about (which is amusing considering MS1 isn't much better than undergrad with respect to being "real medicine"). I've had a lot of fun overall - it really has been much better than I expected.

4) Professors not being clear about what they expect you to know/tests being a complete surprise with respect to what you thought was important.

I agree with all of this!!! Especially #1 and even #4. With regard to #4, similarly to NickNaylor, I don't worry too much about my % on class exams as long as I feel I knew the material. Some professors emphasize stuff that are barely mentioned in board review books and their questions are terrible. Oh well. Keeping track of what we are learning is class with the review books helps keep me at ease and know what to emphasize. We are P/F anyway, so when choosing to spend my time memorizing a stupid PowerPoint or do practice questions from BRS, I'll choose the latter.
 
How early do you plan on getting started studying for the Step I?

How do you study large quantity of material with a large retention rate?

Do you plan on going straight into a residency or do a year off, research etc?
 
I'm starting M1 in August and I've been out of classes for a year-and-a-half. I was also not a science major, although I did reasonably well in the pre-reqs. My biggest worry is not being able to keep up with my classmates were biochem majors and are fresh out of college. My question is, how big is the gap between students like that and students like me? Did you notice that some of your classmates without as strong a science background had to play big time catchup?

I'm a non-trad and was a non-science major. In biochem, there were times I wish I had been a biochem major. In neuro, ther were times I wish I had been a neuroscience major. Every time we had doctoring and had to interact with the SPs, I was glad I was a theatre major, because I think I was more comfortable with interacting with them than a lot of my classmates, at least at first. I really didn't feel like I was at a great disadvantage at any point over the course of the year.

Do you have any tips for using lecture time effectivly? Any ideas for getting the most out of it? (Please don't say don't go to lecture cause its mandatory at my school)

For me, actually going to lecture and paying attention, going through the powerpoint as the lecturer does and making notes was the most efficient learning time for me. I don't have the willpower to study at home very well. It takes me 2-3 times as long to get through the same material.

What has been your hardest subject/block to date and why?

Well, my worst grade was our first physiology block. It was just too damn big and it was split in half by winter break.

Can you talk about how an M1 class integrates (or doesn't) socially?

Is it one big happy family? Is it cliques? Did you find your one best buddy? Does everyone have their go-to crew?

That sort of thing?

Some of my classmates organized outings especially after tests and finals. I didn't go to them, as I live farther out and my husband and I have two small kids that need to be put to bed when those get-togethers are going on. I would have liked to, though. Maybe I will slip out to some next year after the kids are asleep.

I think most of my class gets along pretty well. Temple claims to want nice students and I think they manage that. There are cliques to be sure, but I think you would be hard-pressed to find a school that didn't have them. I have made several good friends.

As someone with relatively no anatomy experience entering M1 in August, do you think it would be worth it to lightly study some of the material beforehand? I have no major plans for the next month, aside from sitting on the couch (not by choice). Anatomy is the first block at my school, and I'm worried that I will struggle with it.

No, nah, nope, no way, hell no, non, nai and nyet. Don't do it.

Thanks everyone for your responses.

I have one more question. From reading various threads, I get the sense that (at least at some schools) there isn't a lot of guidance on what books to buy. There seems to be a lot of "buy whatever book you want."

Now, I'm a student who learns MOSTLY from the book. Do med school classes, in your experiences, tend to be not faithful to books at all? I would just feel completely lost if I didn't have the structure of a book.
Like Nick, I don't think I've bought one book since anatomy (except for a Pathoma review book). I felt like the lecture slides were enough.

How did you feel when you were cutting the cadaver?
Have you met any patients yet and if you did, what was it like?
Our cadavers were pre-dissected so I think that was a little different, though it's still surreal. I will refer to tiedyedog's very eloquent description.

I've only met one actual patient when I wasn't shadowing. It was early in the year and I remember it being awkward but moving.

-Now that you're done with ms1, how did the actual experience compare to your expectations?

-what are some things you wish people told you before you started ms1?

-what was your favorite thing about ms1?

-least favorite thing?

I honestly think it was less stressful that I thought it was, though there were definitely days/weeks I was freaking out and had a few good cries. I really enjoyed my first year.

The sooner you embrace P=MD, the happier you will be.

Finally feeling really challenged, intellectually, for the first time in a long time. I worked a bunch of clerical hospital jobs in the years between my bachelor's and started MS-1, while I took my pre-reqs, got married, had a kid, etc.

Nothing in particular. Oh wait. On second thought, I'm stealing Nick's answer. "Professors not being clear about what they expect you to know/tests being a complete surprise with respect to what you thought was important."

I'm not entering medical school yet, but I'm still curious... Do most people around you seem like they have a clear idea of their future? I know it changes a lot during clinical rotations, etc., but I feel like I meet way more people who seem to have pinpointed a future field of interest than not. Then those without an idea seem sort of overwhelmed like by not knowing. (This could definitely be medical school dependent.)

Eh. I think plenty of my classmates has at least some idea of what they want to do (or what they definitely don't want to do). I'm one of the ones that's pretty sure they know (I think I will be surprised if I don't decide on OB or peds) but I also know there's a good chance I'll change my mind in third year. There will be ample opportunities to shadow or otherwise research specialties, either through interest groups in the school or on you own time.
 
Why do medical students wear their white coat around outside when it's 100 degrees?
 
How early do you plan on getting started studying for the Step I?

How do you study large quantity of material with a large retention rate?

Do you plan on going straight into a residency or do a year off, research etc?

1) Not sure - too far to think about for now.

2) As opposed to...?

3) I plan to go straight into residency.

Why do medical students wear their white coat around outside when it's 100 degrees?

I think we all know the answer to that question.
 
Yeah that last one was tongue-in-cheek but thanks a lot for answering my questions. I hope you do this again next year.
 
I'm moving to a new city for the first time to start medical school in the fall. I'm pretty sociable and am not worried about making new friends, but how hard will it be for me too keep in touch with friends from high school and undergrad, none of whom do anything medically related?
 
I'm moving to a new city for the first time to start medical school in the fall. I'm pretty sociable and am not worried about making new friends, but how hard will it be for me too keep in touch with friends from high school and undergrad, none of whom do anything medically related?
Not in medical school etc but facebook is always good for that kind of stuff. Just don't spend too much time on there 😛
 
NickNaylor, you said you live with your girlfriend. Is she in your class? I've lived with my girlfriend for the past 2 years (she'll be an M3 tomorrow) and I can't imagine two M1/M2s having time for each other unless they were on pretty similar study schedules. Was it/is it difficult for you two to make it work?

I'm also under the impression that by living with an M1/M2, I have a pretty good idea of what the pre-clinical workload is like. Are you inclined to agree or do you think I'll still be as surprised/overwhelmed as the other M1s? I'm not saying I will be able to handle it better, but I do think that I'll be more prepared for it coming in. Not sure if that makes sense though...?

I lived with my girlfriend throughout M1, we have been dating for a few years. She is extremely busy herself (not a medical student). There would be days when our schedules wouldn't line up and I wouldn't see her (while she was awake) for a couple of days. Just make sure you listen to each other and schedule SOME time with each other. It's not so bad, don't let the stress of medical school get to you and then take it out on each other. You're going to be stressed in one way or another for the rest of your lives. Learn ways to deal with it.

Many of my family members are in medicine. To be honest, I thought M1 was going to be three times worse than it was. In the old days, M1 was sitting in a lecture hall from 8-5 and then studying til midnight. I got to podcast most lectures, only took two-three hours of my day. Maybe studied five hours and then did whatever else I did with my day, except test week.

It's all a matter of perspective. I think the people who had never worked a hard, demanding job felt the preclinical years are truly that "hard", time wise. It's going to be harder than the course load in undergrad, that's a promise. It won't destroy your life, that's also a promise. 😉
 
I'm moving to a new city for the first time to start medical school in the fall. I'm pretty sociable and am not worried about making new friends, but how hard will it be for me too keep in touch with friends from high school and undergrad, none of whom do anything medically related?
that seems something entirely up to you. that being said, you'll kind of naturally fall out of touch with a lot of your non med school friends. a lot of my classmates, myself included, have felt that the 24/7 nature of med school kind of draws you tightly in with each other. your other friends will also have very little idea on what's going on your life, and it's hard for them to understand even if you explain
 
that seems something entirely up to you. that being said, you'll kind of naturally fall out of touch with a lot of your non med school friends. a lot of my classmates, myself included, have felt that the 24/7 nature of med school kind of draws you tightly in with each other. your other friends will also have very little idea on what's going on your life, and it's hard for them to understand even if you explain

100% true. My girlfriend has actually told me that she doesn't like hanging out with me and just med school people because all we end up talking about is... school. It's nothing intentional either by the way. It just kind of consumes you - not necessarily in a bad way, but in a "this is pretty much mostly what I'm doing" kind of way. Many people don't find that interesting. Through no fault of your own you might become "boring" to others.

Your non-close-friends also just slowly start to disappear. I've seen this with myself. Unless they're your BFFFFFFFF kind of friends, you very likely will lose contact with them unless you make a very strong, deliberate effort to stay in touch. Somewhere along the way of school, your friends at school, and your life at school, other things fall by the wayside. It really isn't much different than the transition from high school to undergrad and losing most of your high school friends. The ones that you stay in touch with are the ones your closest with.
 
It won't destroy your life, that's also a promise. 😉

The only caveat I would add is "if you don't want it to." There are a couple of people that I know that work non-stop, 24/7. Maybe they get satisfaction out of that, or maybe they just have to work that hard. I dunno.
 
The only caveat I would add is "if you don't want it to." There are a couple of people that I know that work non-stop, 24/7. Maybe they get satisfaction out of that, or maybe they just have to work that hard. I dunno.

That's very true, I totally agree with that.

I really think those kids would have done it in any profession they entered and it's intrinsic to the individual, not the process creating the individual.
 
The only things that have ever worked for me is completely avoiding textbooks, attending lecture (paying attention) and taking good notes, and re-writing my notes. When I implemented this in undergrad I went from a 2.8 to a consistent 4.0. Is this a realistic approach for medical school too? I'm worried there is so much material I wont be able to re-write my notes...but this seems to be the only way I can remember stuff. I know there is no way to know, but opinions are welcomed.
 
The only things that have ever worked for me is completely avoiding textbooks, attending lecture (paying attention) and taking good notes, and re-writing my notes. When I implemented this in undergrad I went from a 2.8 to a consistent 4.0. Is this a realistic approach for medical school too? I'm worried there is so much material I wont be able to re-write my notes...but this seems to be the only way I can remember stuff. I know there is no way to know, but opinions are welcomed.

This is actually how I started studying towards the end of the year (to great success). It takes a while to get through stuff, but if you stay on top of it and do a bit each day you'll have plenty of time. Just keep in mind that because the simple process of writing takes so much time, you'll likely have to spend more time than those that don't rewrite notes. That's not necessarily good or bad, but just recognize that when you inevitably start talking to classmates about how much you're studying. Don't be worried if you spend more time then they do.
 
The only things that have ever worked for me is completely avoiding textbooks, attending lecture (paying attention) and taking good notes, and re-writing my notes. When I implemented this in undergrad I went from a 2.8 to a consistent 4.0. Is this a realistic approach for medical school too? I'm worried there is so much material I wont be able to re-write my notes...but this seems to be the only way I can remember stuff. I know there is no way to know, but opinions are welcomed.
That would be a lot of notes... do what you gotta do, but be open minded and flexible.
 
Thanks for all the replies so far.
 
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What level of math is required? I ask this because I believe math is an abomination to the human race.
 
How early do you plan on getting started studying for the Step I?

How do you study large quantity of material with a large retention rate?

Do you plan on going straight into a residency or do a year off, research etc?

I started prep second semester

Hammer it. Quiz on it when possible. Talk about it with others

I'm doing a gap year after 2nd year for public health. You should do a gap year prior to 4th year if you choose to do one

100% true. My girlfriend has actually told me that she doesn't like hanging out with me and just med school people because all we end up talking about is... school. It's nothing intentional either by the way. It just kind of consumes you - not necessarily in a bad way, but in a "this is pretty much mostly what I'm doing" kind of way. Many people don't find that interesting. Through no fault of your own you might become "boring" to others.h.

Can't adequately express enough agreement
 
What level of math is required? I ask this because I believe math is an abomination to the human race.

lol very little...you do need to do some math for physio but it's mostly stuff that any 7th grader could figure out. The calculations aren't the hard part, it's mostly the concepts behind equations that you might have trouble with (I struggled with a few). There's a slight amount of physics but as long as you have a basic physics I understanding you'll be good.
 
I'm starting M1 in August and I've been out of classes for a year-and-a-half. I was also not a science major, although I did reasonably well in the pre-reqs. My biggest worry is not being able to keep up with my classmates were biochem majors and are fresh out of college. My question is, how big is the gap between students like that and students like me? Did you notice that some of your classmates without as strong a science background had to play big time catchup?

Well, I had a relatively strong science background (majored in bio), but I was out of school for two years prior to starting med school. I found it very easy to get back into the swing of things, though I was craving school by the time I finished up with my job.

Can you talk about how an M1 class integrates (or doesn't) socially?

Is it one big happy family? Is it cliques? Did you find your one best buddy? Does everyone have their go-to crew?

That sort of thing?

It's going to vary from school to school and even class to class. At my school, we're relatively close with our classmates, but my class has the particular reputation of being very social with each other. The upperclassmen think we're weird because we like each other too much.

Do you mind expanding on the method by which you use First Aid and review books in regards to studying? It would seem that review books, by definition, would leave out a lot of detail. In doing so, how does it affect your exam grades? And how do you use the FA book with your syllabus? Does it match up pretty well

I bought First Aid the year before I took step 1, which amounted to a semester into medical school. I would annotate it heavily while going through the courses. I used it mostly to focus my studying, but also to just get the basics before I expanded on what I actually needed to know for exams. I wasn't the best student in the class by far, but I passed and learned the material.
 
Hey nick what would you have done had you not gone into medicine?
 
I wish I could add to this thread, but I'm mostly off the grid for the summer. Just wanted to pop in and say good luck to you 2016ers and don't listen to rogueunicorn. Now please enjoy this picture of Miranda Kerr:

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Hey nick what would you have done had you not gone into medicine?

Definitely teaching. I seriously considered music education early on in college, but now I definitely would've done science teaching. Even now teaching at the high school or college levels is my backup plan if medicine doesn't work.

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Definitely teaching. I seriously considered music education early on in college, but now I definitely would've done science teaching. Even now teaching at the high school or college levels is my backup plan if medicine doesn't work.

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Do you ever find yourself lacking motivation? What do you use to push yourself when you just don't feel like studying?
 
I didn't do research during the year. Pritzker has a program that basically funds your research during the summer should you choose to do it. Looking back on it I probably could've done research during the school year if I really, really wanted to, but I didn't really, really want to. There are at least a couple of people in my class though that were strongly involved in lab research. That was definitely the exception rather than the rule, though, and I don't know how they did it.

Is it still possible to conduct research exclusively over the summer, and produce publishable results? Because the vibe that I've gotten from the Allo side of SDN is that you have to have a ton of pubs to get into competitive residency (ortho, rads, etc.)
 
miranda kerr gives me happy, but oh so dirty thoughts
 
BRS phys, Lippincott's biochem, HY neuro

Did you use these (and other board review books) during M1? My girlfriend's classes had syllabi for M1/M2 and that's basically all she studied. I'm wondering if it's good for M1/M2's to start using board review stuff from the beginning or if it's better to save it all for board prep time.

No, she has absolutely nothing to do with medicine, though she is going to go back to school to get a RN. There is, however, a married couple in my class (i.e., both are in the class). It's not that hard, but as I said I intentionally try and maintain a solid work/LIFE balance. But yes, it can be difficult for your SO to understand why you have to study so much (as I'm sure you've experienced). My parents seem to think that it's ridiculous that I need to study a few hours a day when I'm at home to keep up with school.

You will have some idea of the workload is right, however you will have no idea what the feelings are like. Knowing that you have a ****load of work to do is one thing. Knowing that and feeling absolutely overwhelmed and as if there's nothing you can do to make you pass an exam is quite another.


Thanks for the input. I know it's pretty far off for you, but have you and your girlfriend talked about moving together for residency? If all goes well, I'll be an M1 when my girlfriend is an M4 and hopefully she'll be able to match somewhere near me. I don't know how common it is for people to match to their top few choices though.

Are you anticipating M2 (pre-board prep time) being more or less stressful than M1?

I lived with my girlfriend throughout M1, we have been dating for a few years. She is extremely busy herself (not a medical student). There would be days when our schedules wouldn't line up and I wouldn't see her (while she was awake) for a couple of days. Just make sure you listen to each other and schedule SOME time with each other. It's not so bad, don't let the stress of medical school get to you and then take it out on each other. You're going to be stressed in one way or another for the rest of your lives. Learn ways to deal with it.

Many of my family members are in medicine. To be honest, I thought M1 was going to be three times worse than it was. In the old days, M1 was sitting in a lecture hall from 8-5 and then studying til midnight. I got to podcast most lectures, only took two-three hours of my day. Maybe studied five hours and then did whatever else I did with my day, except test week.

It's all a matter of perspective. I think the people who had never worked a hard, demanding job felt the preclinical years are truly that "hard", time wise. It's going to be harder than the course load in undergrad, that's a promise. It won't destroy your life, that's also a promise. 😉

Thank you for your input. I work full-time in a clinical lab in the evenings and with my girlfriend starting M3, I already know there will be long stretches of not seeing each other while we're awake. She'll be rounding early in the morning, and I'll be getting home around midnight when she's already asleep. Needless to say we're both worried about it, but hopefully it works out and we find a way to make time.
 
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Do you ever find yourself lacking motivation? What do you use to push yourself when you just don't feel like studying?

Yes. I do my best to get my nose to the grindstone, but sometimes it just doesn't work. When I really can't focus, I don't study. Simple as that.

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Thank you for your input. I work full-time in a clinical lab in the evenings and with my girlfriend starting M3, I already know there will be long stretches of not seeing each other while we're awake. She'll be rounding early in the morning, and I'll be getting home around midnight when she's already asleep. Needless to say we're both worried about it, but hopefully it works out and we find a way to make time.

Wait, you're already planning on working full-time in medical school?

If I read that correctly it is a terrible idea.
 
I'm starting M1 in August and I've been out of classes for a year-and-a-half. I was also not a science major, although I did reasonably well in the pre-reqs. My biggest worry is not being able to keep up with my classmates were biochem majors and are fresh out of college. My question is, how big is the gap between students like that and students like me? Did you notice that some of your classmates without as strong a science background had to play big time catchup?

I had been out of school for almost 2 years when I went back. You'll be fine. Med school isn't as hard as people make it seem.
 
I had been out of school for almost 2 years when I went back. You'll be fine. Med school isn't as hard as people make it seem.

Med school has an ethos about it that is very similar to ochem. It's a little bizzare.

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Med school has an ethos about it that is very similar to ochem. It's a little bizzare.

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I like to hear that. I was really scared to take ochem from everyone's horror stories about it...but once I was in it myself, it was fine. I'm hoping med school will be a similar experience :xf:
 
Wait, you're already planning on working full-time in medical school?

If I read that correctly it is a terrible idea.

No, I'm applying this cycle, not matriculating in August '12.
 
Is it feasible to work even just one 8-hr shift per week? For the purposes of matching into a competitive specialty, would that time be better spent on some other EC activity (e.g. research, volunteering), or would it depend on the nature of the employment and/or specialty?
 
Is it feasible to work even just one 8-hr shift per week? For the purposes of matching into a competitive specialty, would that time be better spent on some other EC activity (e.g. research, volunteering), or would it depend on the nature of the employment and/or specialty?

I mean, possible? Yes. Is it in a lab, working towards something you can put on your C.V.?

Working a job just for money is not a great idea.
 
Working a job just for money is not a great idea.

This was my next question.

My current employer has given me the option of "working from home" with pay equivalent to 10 hours per week. It's excellent pay. Thoughts?
 
This was my next question.

My current employer has given me the option of "working from home" with pay equivalent to 10 hours per week. It's excellent pay. Thoughts?

One of my classmates works a pretty significant amount of time. He seems to do well.

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One of my classmates works a pretty significant amount of time. He seems to do well.

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I mean, do whatever makes you happy, but I am questioning why? I did research, on a volunteer basis, throughout the year but that led into my summer project.

Does the dude make some serious cash from it or something? I mean, working a minimum wage job at burger king is not a great use of time. How much money are we talking here?

If it's substantial I guess that wouldn't be too bad.
 
I mean, do whatever makes you happy, but I am questioning why? I did research, on a volunteer basis, throughout the year but that led into my summer project.

Does the dude make some serious cash from it or something? I mean, working a minimum wage job at burger king is not a great use of time. How much money are we talking here?

If it's substantial I guess that wouldn't be too bad.

He does software engineering on the side, so I'm guessing he makes good money. I also think he does it because he genuinely love it. I agree that it's a bad idea though.

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Did you use these (and other board review books) during M1? My girlfriend's classes had syllabi for M1/M2 and that's basically all she studied. I'm wondering if it's good for M1/M2's to start using board review stuff from the beginning or if it's better to save it all for board prep time.

We don't have syllabi. If you do, consider yourself lucky I guess. Yes, I used those during first year (Lippincott's throughout biochem as needed, HY prior to shelf, BRS phys before shelf and a little throughout)
 
He does software engineering on the side, so I'm guessing he makes good money. I also think he does it because he genuinely love it. I agree that it's a bad idea though.

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Ok, so I'll clarify my opinion:

Work a job if it's a hobby and you'd probably do it for free anyway.

Don't do it because you need beer money for the weekend. You're probably not going to make a dent in your student loans doing 10 hours a week of almost anything.
 
Ok, so I'll clarify my opinion:

Work a job if it's a hobby and you'd probably do it for free anyway.

Don't do it because you need beer money for the weekend. You're probably not going to make a dent in your student loans doing 10 hours a week of almost anything.

True...I just have a spending addiction I'm not willing to give up 😛

But really, it works out to about $1000 a month take home. That's pretty significant when otherwise I'm looking at $0 a month. But I hesitate cause I've always been under the impression that no one can work while in med school.
 
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Which anatomy atlas did you use?

Mostly thieme, netter for h&n, rohen sparsely (wasted money on it honestly)

True...I just have a spending addiction I'm not willing to give up 😛

But really, it works out to about $1000 a month take home. That's pretty significant when otherwise I'm looking at $0 a month. But I hesitate cause I've always been under the impression that no one can work while in med school.

Some people can work in med school. No way to know until you're there though. I'd at least wait a semester and see how you feel then
 
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