MSTP Boulevard part 01

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Hello! I recently discovered this place and I just wanted to say WHAT A RELIEF it is to hear about people in the same situation as me. I think my friends are sick of me. Anyway, only have ONE mstp interview, at Duke. Any advice?
 
Wellcome aboard the USS MSTP Rando. Hey I haven't gone on any interviews yet so you've probably heard everything I might have to say. Know your research really well. Be able to talk about your research to anyone from a 5 yr old to an expert. Smile and be cordial. Dress sharp. REACH CLOSURE with yourself: meaning know what you know and what you don't and put a positive spin on every aspect of your application ("good or bad"). When will you be at Duke? I'll be there on Thursday Nov 8. I'll get there on Tue. It will be nice to have an SDN reunion.
 
original:

i really liked your choice of words
REACH CLOSURE
. perfect!

i will also be at duke then, wednesday and thursday. did they send you stuff in the mail?
 
Hey Rondo I'll see you there. I'll be the guy looking all stressed out and smoking a cigar to make me seem relaxed.
 
Hey Rumit! How was UCSF? Hope you had fun?
 
Well, got an acceptance by email from the Washington Univ. MSTP today! Its definitely one of my top choices, but I'm not quite ready to withdraw all other MSTP apps yet.

Has anybody heard from Harvard MSTP yet? I know there are a few people who have gotten regular MD interviews, but I havent heard anything from the MSTP side of things. Have they started interviewing yet or do they wait until next year? Also, what about UNC?

Good luck to everybody.
 
Baylor21: Congrats! that is Big Time. WOW WashU? when did you interview? My interview there is Dec 6 and a friend of mine in their program said I'll know the committee's decision before christmas. I bet your mind is still struggling to process the implications. Congratulations. Party up in here!
 
I must say I am fairly surprised to get this acceptance. My interview was on 10/18-10/19. I wonder if any of the other guys in my interview group got accepted, they were a really cool group to hang out with.

Good luck on your interview original. They will wine you and dine you the whole weekend. Plus, it seems like they have money flowing out of their ears over there. I was thoroughly impressed.
 
I'm wondering what you guys thoughts are on Wash. Univ. MSTP compared against Univ. of Michigan. Do you think there is a significant difference between the program quality?
 
Did anybody applying to Pitt MSTP get the invite for the all expense paid, second look weekend?

I want to go, but it conflicts with another interview. Do you think it would hurt my chances of admission if I dont go? I say this because technically Pitt doesnt notify anybody of acceptance or rejection until late February. According to the website, the second look weekend seems like it carries a good chance of acceptance, but then again I may be completely wrong. Anybody know what the scoop is on this?
 
Originally posted by baylor21:
•I'm wondering what you guys thoughts are on Wash. Univ. MSTP compared against Univ. of Michigan. Do you think there is a significant difference between the program quality?•

Baylor21:
I wouldn't pass up WashU for Michigan. At least not in this life. UMich has a great program but we're talking about THE WashU this minute.
 
Hey all,

I just got back from UCSF last night. The interviews themselves were actually Thursday and Friday. Anyhow, it was totally awesome. I was completely knocked off my feet...I was so impressed. While it was only my second interview, I can't imagine seeing much better than it. The two most important things for me are the quality of the students and the faculty, and both are amazing at UCSF. All the faculty that I talked to (that's seven for those who are counting) were awesome, both nice people and excellent researchers. I also met quite a few students, and not a single one seemed unhappy in any way with the school, which is pretty amazing.

Beyond all that, the facilities were awesome. Most of the school facilities seemed very new, and you can't beat the view out of most of the windows.

I don't really know what else to say, other than it's definitely my first choice, and I'm going to have a hard time waiting all these months until I hear something from them. I guess I could hear from the medical school sooner, and that would definitely take some of the pressure off.

Anyhow, I'd love to answer any questions and stuff. I know I haven't said much that's very specific, but I don't know where to start.

Later,

Adam
 
Whew! I finally got the email from Stanford. I was getting kind of worried. Oh, well...now I can start worrying about the rejection 🙂 Of course, now it's my backup, if I don't get into UCSF 😉 hehe. Wouldn't that be great.

Adam
 
Anybody gotten MSTP interviews at the following schools yet?

Harvard
UNC
Penn
 
Nope. I haven't heard anything from Harvard, not that I'm really expecting to though. And, I didn't apply to the other two.

Later,

Adam
 
I'm kinda disappointed in this thread. Are there only 3 MSTP applicants on SDN? It seems like Adam, Original, and I are the only ones here.

Oh well, guess the MSTP applicant pool is smaller than I thought.

Sounds like your UCSF experience went great Adam. I'm afraid I dont know much about their program and didnt apply there because I already applied to too many other top notch programs and wanted to cast a wide net. But I've heard excellent things about their program. What type of research do you want to go into?
 
Hey all. I'm applying all MSTP as well. However, I haven't gotten any interviews yet. Itook the Aug. MCAT though. It's nice to see all you mudphud applicants that share the same interests as I do. You guys look like a good bunch. Is it still early in the game? I'm getting a bit worried at this point. Oh well, let's see how it goes. Anyone here applying to NYU MSTP??
 
Baylor:

Yeah, it is disapointing. But, at least we can keep a three- or four-way converstaion going. UCSF was totally awesome though. Anyhow, I'm interested in studying mechanisms of gene regulation, especially transcription (that's what I did a lot in undergrad). Obviously, that's a pretty big area of interest, so I'm also leaving myself pretty open once I actually get into school. I think that at the moment there is a lot of cancer research that is directed at that area, and I'm very interested in that. You're into bioengineering, right?

Later,

Adam
 
Hello all,
I am a mudphud too. I knew a few people here before, like Vader, but i never was very vocal on this board, but now that I see that there is more than just a couple of people on this board, I feel really good.
A bit about myself (vader might recall my questions few months ago about my chances). Well, I am in NYC going to NYU, did research for 3-4 years and just got my 5th combined degree interview today. (all are outside of new york city for some reason). I already went to two interviews and i liked it. The 6 interviews I got at Buffalo were not stressful at all, but rather pleasant. Does everyone else get this feeling that interviews do not really matter. (cause most of my interviewers assumed that I am just applying to their department and ended up talking mostly about their research and not asking me any horrible questions at all. [email protected]
 
Hey Refuter wellcome! 5 is a good number. I'm posting this message from Duke and believe it or not I had an interview without knowing it. I was just chatting with the guy and having a good time. He spent the time explaining his research and telling me that I'll get into a whole lot of schools and that Duke is one of the best places to go. After this "interview" I asked the program coordinator when my inteviews were going to be and she said I already had one. Anyway, to cut long short, it turned out Duke was assuming that I'm a U.S citizen. Their funds are strictly NIGMS. So I probably wouldn't be here next year. What a shame. The program is great, the school is breathtaking. Please bring a camera. My only problem is that the medicalness is overwhelming. Durham is very small and quiet, and everyone that lives here is in the medical feild. At least now I can relax more and say whatever I want. Free food, free hotel, free travel, good practice MSTP interviews with world renound scientists. Baby I'm living large
😎 😎
 
I'm applying MSTP to most schools. I applied super late though, so no interview yet.
 
Hey Original. I didnt apply to a whole lot of schools. For ex. I didnt apply to any ivy schools. I am trying to be realistic. i have 3.6 and 32 on mcat, so i am not that excellent of a candidate. I wish i was good enough for the "big" schools, but i think i wouldnt mind going to a state school either. Final point being I just know that MSTP/MdPhd is what I want to do and i wont cry if i only get into only 1 school.
 
Point of correction to my previous post. I spoke with (interviewed with) the program director of Duke MSTP and he said the funding wouldn't be a problem. They have alternate (non-NIH) funds as well. Meaning I'm still in the game baby! Good luck guys. Duke rocks. Blue Devils Baby!
 
Duke is an awesome program original. I thought about applying there but I was already applying to 31 programs so I couldnt add any more.

refuter, dont underestimate yourself. I only have a 31R MCAT but got interviews at Yale and Hopkins. I used to think that you had to have a 37 MCAT just to be competitive, but clearly thats not the case. I hear you about just getting in anywhere. Even if I get rejected from every other program I apply to, I would be extremely happy with just one acceptance.

Most of my interviews have been very cool. The only interview I had that was disappointing was Hopkins. One of the bioengineering faculty was fairly hostile about my research. Intellectual, constructive critique is fine, but it was clear to me that he was trying to do much more than that. He was all about trying to imply that my research was unimportant, even when it was clear to me that he really didnt have a good grasp on what I was doing. He was extremely closed minded. If I had to work with him for 4 years on a PhD, theres no way I would choose Hopkins. Of course, most of the other faculty there were great and they have the #1 bioengineering program in the country. I'm hoping that this guy was just an aberration and not the norm. He is indicative of why alot of people say that Hopkins is a cutthroat type of school, when in reality I didnt perceive that to be totally true. He gives a bad name to their program and unfairly polarizes the perception of outsiders.

Glad to hear that others interviews are going well. The other MSTP applicants that I have met have all been great people, not just research dorks with no outside interests. In alot of cases, they seem to be more laid back than the regular MD applicants.
 
I am an MD/PhD applicant as well. I have applied to 16 MD/PHD programs and 2 regular MD. My interviews are going to start next week. Duke, Vanderbilt in the middle of November, and Yale early December. In case any of you guys will be interviwing at these schools at the time I am around, it would be cool to hang around. Original, I did not know that you were international too. It's a tough call being an international student 🙁
 
Hey all!

I applied to mostly MD/PhD programs as well but am lost in mailbox-purgatory right now. It was off to a promising start with an interview at Baylor ~ 2 weeks ago but now the rejection letters are fighting back with a 3:2 ratio of reject to interview.

Anyway, Congrats to Baylor21 on WashU. That is very exciting. And to everyone else, good luck with your interviews.

As for me, I am with Scooby and will change my name to Baylor23 in hopes that the luck rubs off.

Adios
 
This process really is strange... I applied to Baylor for regular MD but havent heard a thing from them. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to see I'm going to get rejected from there shortly. Not that it matters really since I would have chosen WUSTL anyways.

Anybody else gotten an acceptance yet? I know that Hopkins meets sometime in November for the first group of MD/PhD applicants. Anybody going to the 2nd look weekend for Pitt MSTP?
 
For those of you who applied to Pitt MSTP:

Did the online status check say you were applying to the MD/PhD or MD program? My status says "file being reviewed" for the MD program yet I sent back my MD/PhD secondary the first week of September. I guesss I should call; two of my friends here at UMD-CP have received MSTP interviews and I am twiddling my thumbs. . .

Thanks, later.
 
I think the website is accurate. My MSTP interview at Pitt was about a month ago and it says "MD program" on my status check.

If you get an interview, the status check will change and it will display the date of your interview. Unlike some schools (ahem.. Northwestern) Pitt seems to keep on top of its online status check pretty good.
 
I too am an MD/PhD applicant. I am applying to 10 schools all for MSTP. I was recently accepted to Wash U. I have an interview at Duke next week, and an interview at Emory the week after Thanksgiving. Yale blew me off, but I am not upset. I mean New Haven is cool and all...
My application has been complete at Michigan for quite a while and I still haven't heard a peep from them. The rest of my applications got in a month ago.
I hope everyone's interviews are going well. 🙂
 
Hi everyone,
I am also an mstp applicant. Like audeo and original, I'm applying as an international as well (which, of course, adds in extra fun and games for the application process). My AMCAS was messed up so it took extra long time to fix. Was rejected from Wash U, Cornell, and Albert Einstein MSTP last month, so I'm a little bummed. Other than that, haven't heard from any other schools yet (applied to 22 MSTPs), so I am getting kinda worried. My gpa is not bad but my mcat may be a bit on the low side for MSTP, but I figured I would give it a shot anyways.
Well, just like to share my thoughts/anxiety with you all. Congrats to baylor21 on your acceptance to Wash U. Although I was not able to interview there, I have heard many good things about the program.
This process is long and tedious and the waiting is hellish, but hopefully it'll be all worth it at the end.
 
Hi everyone,

I am also applying to MD/PhD programs. I just interviewed at WashU. I am very, very impressed with their program. I would LOVE to go there if I get in.
I got an interview at UCSD next week. Has anyone interview there for MSTP? If yes, how was it?
 
Doraemon, by the extra fun and games, are u perhaps talking about refund of your secondary payment due to ineligibility that I experienced with BU 🙂 🙂
 
audeo,
I was referring to the fact that many MD/PhD programs automatically disqualify international applicants, hence I was not able to apply to many schools that I wanted to apply. Also it just seems to me that our apps need to be stronger than the applicants with permanent status/citizenship. Is that what you get too? I thought BU takes international applicants. I submitted my fee plus the grad school application to BU but haven't heard from them since then. Maybe I should call to double check?
 
I know that it's touchy to ask and many hate this request, but anyone willing to post stats/ec's or suggest ballparks? Thanks to all.
 
Baylor21,

Can you tell us what the WashU interview was like. What did the committee interview ask you about primarily? How were the faculty interviews? Did they spend more time talking about your research or explaining their own?

I've received 8 MD/PhD interviews (Cornell, UT-Southwestern, Wash.U, Mount Sinai, Baylor, Yale, Vanderbilt and Univ of Chicago). I've only been to two yet. Cornell-Rockefeller-Sloan Kettering's PRogram, and UT-Southwestern. I'm also an international applicant. But the interviews there were fantastic. I have my WashU interview on the 16th... But I'm a little nervous because I really like WashU and seriously considering it. CONGRATS TO BAYLOR21!!
 
Sonic,

Your success sounds great! I'm sure you will get multiple MSTP acceptances, your application must be very strong.

I've interviewed already at Yale, Pittsburgh, Hopkins, Wash. Univ., and Univ. of Virginia. I have MD/PhD interviews scheduled at Ohio State and Michigan, but will probably withdraw my application at both of those schools. I just got an interview invite from Univ. of Illinois Urbana-Champaign MD/PhD (Medical Scholars Program). But I'm probably going to drop my application there too. They are a non MSTP program and they dont give you as much financial support as the other programs.

WUSTL has a committee interview; thats probably the most important interview of the trip. There will be about 15 committee persons in there. Only 3 or 4 people will ask questions, the rest will just take notes on your responses and note their general impressions about you. The committee interview is only 20 minutes long, so it will pass by quickly. They will ask about your research projects mostly, but they might also ask you about why you want to do MD/PhD and some outside interests.

You will meet with various faculty as well, I believe that they provide some feedback on you back to the committee. If I remember correctly, 1 or 2 of these faculty interviews will be with people on the MSTP admissions committee. These probably carry more weight than the other faculty interviews. The last interview is also with an MSTP admissions committee person. This interview is sort of a wrap up talk, where you can express things that you didnt get a chance to talk about in the committee interview. Theres also a heavy dose of recruiting going on with that interview; its more informal than the others.

After your interview, the MSTP committee will meet the next week to decide whether to admit you or not. Brian or Andrew, the MSTP administrators, will call or email you exactly 1 week (unless theres a holiday or something) after the interview to let you know what the committee decided.

The MD admissions committee meets separately from the MSTP and less frequently. They will decide separately whether to admit you to the medical school. Usually this is just a formality for those applicants who the MSTP selects. I think there has only been a couple of people who the MSTP selected who were rejected by the med school. I get the impression that the MSTP committee generally gets its way, and has significant pull to get somebody admitted to the med school. So the limiting factor is the MSTP admission decision.

The interview weekend was alot of fun for me, the administrators did a great job of giving us stuff to do when we werent interviewing. Brian and Andrew are EXTREMELY cool guys, they are very loose and informal with the applicants. They will take you around St. Louis and set up dinners with current MSTP students. They also put you up in a very plush hotel, the Chase Park Plaza. Its probably the fanciest hotel I've ever stayed at.

OK, now I sound like a WUSTL recruiter, but I think you get the general impression. Great school, great location (definitely one of the better areas of St Louis), and great people. They have money flowing all over the place up there. I'm sure you will like it. I think the only thing that some people dont like is that its NOT Chicago, LA, New York, or Boston. Some people are averse living in St. Louis and want to be in a big east/west coast city. But thats really the only weakness that I perceived at WUSTL, and for me its not really a weakness at all.

Good luck with your interviews, I'm sure you will have lots of choices of where to attend.
 
Baylor,

Thanks for the info... Just got an interview from Johns Hopkins. So this is #9.
 
Doraemon, you don't have to recheck. They do admit international applicants provided completing two years of undergraduate studies in the U.S. I have only one year, well to be exact one semester and a summer currently and that is why I was ineligible. Good luck with your application. And Sonic, congrats on your awesome list of interviews. Wonder what's your secret 🙂 🙂
 
Hi guys,

For those of you who have gotten interviews at University of Chicago, did you get any kind of app complete notification or hear anything from them before the actual interview notice. I haven't heard anything, and I've tried emailing to make sure that my app is complete but haven't gotten a response. I guess I may have to call them.

Thanks,

Adam
 
Sonic, I heard that U of Chicago MD/PhD do not take international students. That is why I changed it to regular MD and subsequently rejected 🙁
 
Rumit,

I didn't hear anything from them regarding completion of application. They just emailed me and told me that they want to interview me. However, since I had 9 interviews scheduled from now until the end of December, I postponed my UofC interview until January, which is when they have their next interview date.

They said in their email that they would pay for all my expenses including air-fare and hotel accomodation. I've only got that kind of offer from two other schools (WashU and Vanderbilt).

Hope this clarifies stuff for you.
 
audeo,

Most of these MSTP programs lie to you.. They tell you that they don't take foreign students BECAUSE they told have money to advertise. I know one student who went to my undergraduate institution who is a non-citizen/non-permanent resident. He now attends UofC's MSTP. His case, was however, a slip through the cracks... He told me they won't make the same mistake again.

This is why when they offered me an interview (and offered to pay for it), I was a little skeptical. But my friend told me that every year, they fly out a few candidates whom they REALLY like.

Johns Hopkins told me the same thing, but when I pressed their MD/PhD program director, he told me "if you're this interested in our school, why don't you apply and we'll see what we can do"... The bottom line is if you can afford the app fee and the risk, then it's worth a shot. I know a lot of cases where foreign students were accepted simply because they were outstanding.

In one case, a friend of mine from Toronto (Canadian citizen), is an MD/PhD student at Stanford. He said that with an acceptance offer from Yale, he bargained with Stanford, and they decided to take him in with extra-NIH/NIGMS funding... because he wanted to be there so badly.

I think the bottom line is "Interested is Interesting"... If a school sees that you are very passionate about attending there, they will find a way to accept you. But, you must have the right credentials. It is true that foreign students need ridiculously good credentials to get offers from unwilling schools. I don't know how mine compares, but I'm happy that I'm getting so many interviews.

Just to set the record straight, I'm not a U.S. citizen nor am I a permanent resident. I'm on an F-1 visa, and I attended college (have been going to college, for the past four years) in the U.S. So all my recs, grades, stats are from U.S. institutions.
 
Baylor21,

Congrads about getting into WashU. If I were you I would definitely go there and forget about all the other schools. WashU has the #1 MD/PhD program in the nation and everyone knows that.

How did you feel after your WashU committee interview? Did you feel like you did really well or did you think you could have done better?
I just interviewed there and I felt pretty good about my individual interviews, but I thought the committee one could have gone better.

I will be interviewing at UCSD next week and then at UCLA. Do any of you guys have interviews at these schools???
 
academic,

For me the committee interview was pretty noneventful. I think it went pretty well, but its not like I thought it was an amazing experience. I felt like I did a good job explaining my research, and they seemed interested in what I was doing.

Admittedly, my research is very bioengineering oriented, and I dont think very many of the people on the committee know very much about the field. I concentrated on trying to explain stuff in laymans terms so they would have a better grasp of what I was doing. For a more traditional research experience, you wouldnt need to do that.

Overall, I wasnt quite sure how I was perceived as a whole after the interviews. I thought things went decently well, but so did everybody's interviews for the most part so it seemed like I might not have stuck out in the eyes of the committee. Just goes to show you that you cant estimate your chances totally off of what happens in the interview. Good luck, I hope you get in if WashU is your first choice
 
Yeah, I have a UCLA interview. I haven't scheduled it yet, but it'll probably be the Dec 6 & 7 deal. I just need to call them.

Hope to see you there.

Adam
 
I don't understand. I just called Pritzker MSTP to make sure that my app was complete (it was), and I asked them about their timeline. She said that she didn't know because they had just started reviewing applications. I heard different things from them before. I hate that. The more I deal with them the less I like their school. Just had to vent a little.

Later,

Adam
 
Hi Everyone! THis is my first time posting. I am kicking myself for not finding out about this site sooner. I've spent 2 hours just devouring info. on this site. You guys seem like a super bunch!!!

Well, since this is my first ever post I'll keep it short. I am a MSTP applicant, so I am posting here rather than starting a new thread. I'm looking forward to getting to know you guys and sharing my application info!
 
Hey Rumit,

I picked Dec 6,7 for my UCLA interview. So maybe I'll see you there.

I dying to hear from UCSF. I sent in my secondary couple of weeks ago, but I still have not heard anything. I LOVE that school. I have friends who are second year med school students there and I also have a friend who is 1st year MSTP student. They all love UCSF.
 
academic:

Cool, I just scheduled my UCLA interview for Dec 6 and 7, so I guess I'll probably see you there. UCSF is totally awesome. I just got back from an interview there last weekend. It's really hard to describe how impressed I was. I was pretty much blown away. Good luck, I'm sure you'll get an interview.

Later,

Adam
 
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