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Does anyone know when you become eligible for the multi-year retention bonus? Any details on how the process works? Do you become eligible one, two years before you are able to separate? Thanks in advance.

 

[grmaster1]

Does anyone know when you become eligible for the multi-year retention bonus? Any details on how the process works? Do you become eligible one, two years before you are able to separate? Thanks in advance.

Here are the boxes you need to have checked:

Eligibility Criteria. Eligibility criteria is satisfied by an officer of the Dental Corps of the Army or the Navy or an officer of the Air Force designated as a dental officer who:

A. Is below the pay grade of 0-7.

B. Has a current, valid, and unrestricted license or approved waiver.

C. Has at least 8 years of creditable service or has completed any active duty service commitment incurred for dental education and training.

D. Has completed initial residency training or will complete such training before September 30 of the fiscal year in which the officer enters into an agreement.

E. Executes a written agreement to remain on active duty for 2, 3, or 4 years that is accepted by the Secretary of the Military Department concerned (or designee).

F. Has at least one of the Dental Specialties listed in Table 6-5.
NOTE: Based on Service-unique requirements, the Secretary of the Military Department concerned (or designee) may decline to offer a DOMRB to any eligible specialty or restrict the length of a DOMRB contract for a specialty to less than 4 years.

Then, you sign the contract...

I guess, your next question would be about the money--so, here are the rates:


FY 2008 DENTAL OFFICER MULTIYEAR RETENTION BONUS PAY LEVELS
Eligible Specialties
FY 2008 Level
Oral-maxillofacial surgeons
1
Comprehensive/operative dentistry
1
Endodontics
2
Prosthodontics
2
Orthodontics
2
Oral Pathology/Oral Diagnosis/Oral Medicine
2
Pediatric Dentistry
2
Periodontics
2
Public Health Dentistry
2
Temporomandibular Dysfunction (TMD)
2
Dental Research
2
Exodontia (Advanced Clinical Practice - ACP)
4
Endodontics (ACP)
4
General Dentistry (ACP)
4
Peridontics (ACP)
4
Prosthodontics (ACP)
4

Table 6-5. Dental Officer Multiyear Retention Bonus (DOMRB) Levels
FY 2008 DENTAL OFFICER MULTIYEAR RETENTION BONUS PAY RATES
Length of Agreement
Level 1
Level 2
Level 3
Level 4
4 Years
$50,000
$40,000
$35,000
$25,000
3 Years
$38,000
$30,000
$27,000
$19,000
2 Years
$25,000
$20,000
$18,000
$13,000
NOTE: Amount increased in Fiscal Year 2008.


If you want to specialize--choose wisely!

 

[makushin]

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[AFDDS]

2 main reasons.

We are under manned and we are the main deployers with OMS

 

[ArmyDDS2013]

wow that's sad, dental research has a higher priority than general dentists !

 

[krmower]

I have 2 questions.

If you complete payback years, then sign on for a residency, do you get these bonuses during the payback years for the residency?

Also, just curious why comp dentist are level 1 bonus.

These bonuses are currently only for those that have completed a residency program already. If you haven't done a residency, there is no bonus at this time. The soonest you would be eligible for the multi-year bonus is at year #6 following graduation (unless you took a 3 yr HPSP - then it could be year #5).

The one exception in the Army is for those who do a 1 yr AEGD. They can then complete a series of additional requirements and qualify for tier 3 pay ($35,000). This is payable while in a residency.

You can sign for your bonus 2 months prior to the point you could get out. It then takes about 60 days from the date you are eligible to recieve the pay.

 

[krmower]

Does anyone know when you become eligible for the multi-year retention bonus? Any details on how the process works? Do you become eligible one, two years before you are able to separate? Thanks in advance.

For the Army all specialties are tier 1 ($50,000). The ACP program (program for those that complete a 1 yr AEGD + additional requirements) is tier 3 ($35,000).

 

[AFDDS]

The Air Force also has the "C to B" preceptorship that will qualify you for the $35k.

It will pay during a residency and the ADSC is paid concurrently after the residency. You must complete all your current ADSC for education prior to entering your residency or you will pay your ADSC consecutively.

 

[ArmyDDS2013]

Is this a per year deal or a lump sum

 

[AFDDS]

per year

 

[umkcdds]

The one exception in the Army is for those who do a 1 yr AEGD. They can then complete a series of additional requirements and qualify for tier 3 pay ($35,000). This is payable while in a residency.

payable while in a residency, as long as any existing ADSO has been completed BEFORE you start the residency, since you cannot BEGIN getting the ACP bonus while in a residency.

 

[ArmyJawBreaker]

For the Army all specialties are tier 1 ($50,000).

Since they went to this amount, it has irked me. An oral surgeon has the same retention bonus as a 2 year Bravo (AEGD). Come on man!

 

[krmower]

Since they went to this amount, it has irked me. An oral surgeon has the same retention bonus as a 2 year Bravo (AEGD). Come on man!

The goal of the multi-year is to retain what the Corps/Service needs. The amount has to be agreed upon by all 3 services. So although one service may not be as deficient in a specialty as another service, the specialists in the non-deficient services will benefit as well.

The Army is very deficient in comp dentists and a little short in Oral Surgeons - but pretty good in all the other specialties. Some of the other services are short in other specialties that the Army is not.

So eventhough you may not like the idea of a comp dentists (or other specialists) getting the same amount - just remember that oral surgeons get the extra $30k ISP - and once their ADSO is complete they can take the $50k ISP. So they will make $30-50k more than any other specialist.

 

[ArmyJawBreaker]

The goal of the multi-year is to retain what the Corps/Service needs. The amount has to be agreed upon by all 3 services. So although one service may not be as deficient in a specialty as another service, the specialists in the non-deficient services will benefit as well.

The Army is very deficient in comp dentists and a little short in Oral Surgeons - but pretty good in all the other specialties. Some of the other services are short in other specialties that the Army is not.

So eventhough you may not like the idea of a comp dentists (or other specialists) getting the same amount - just remember that oral surgeons get the extra $30k ISP - and once their ADSO is complete they can take the $50k ISP. So they will make $30-50k more than any other specialist.

I understand the reasoning behind the values, but anyone with a right mind would agree that oral surgeons should be paid more for the same thing (i.e. multi-year retention) due to their residency being 4 years and pulling trauma call every other or third week. All the while, those with the same bonus are not doing the same call or work! krmower, I know you know where I am coming from, just some food for thought!

 

[krmower]

I understand the reasoning behind the values, but anyone with a right mind would agree that oral surgeons should be paid more for the same thing (i.e. multi-year retention) due to their residency being 4 years and pulling trauma call every other or third week. All the while, those with the same bonus are not doing the same call or work! krmower, I know you know where I am coming from, just some food for thought!

I do understand. I also understand that given a socialized medicine environment like the military that not all health care providers (medical/dental) are going to be paid the equivalent of what they or society thinks they are worth.

In this type of environment, I think that the extra $30-50k/yr that OMFS gets as an ISP is a good start. I also realize that the full potential of what they could make on the outside will never be reached while in the military - but I do think that they can have a comfrotable life style.

 

[AFDDS]

I used to attend the HPIWG meetings, so I think it's important to remember a few things about these bonuses to keep everything in perspective.

First and foremost, it's a retention bonus (Dental Officer Multi-Year Retention Bonus). It's not a bonus intended to make up for what you would have made in the civilian world. As a matter of fact the DoD frowns on using that as a reason to give some bonuses. This was a bonus that was started to retain officers that had been historically hard to retain. Hence all specialties got one when it first came out. The Deputy Surgeons General are the Chairs of this system and they make the final call. The $$ amounts kept going up because all three services had a poor retention rate. A few years ago, the services met with instructions from the DoD that no one with a retention rate over a certain % could recieve any increase in their bonus. A plan was worked out and we created some have's and some have nots. Perio for example was $5K lower than other specialists and they did not appreciate being "undervalued". Problem was, the DoD sets the rules. We were able to successfully lobby the DoD to allow a $12K raise at that time. Retention rates are better now and the DoD or Congress has the right to ask the services to decrease or stop the bonuses since they are for retention. I don't think this would happen, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

Second. It was originally raised to $50K for OMS and 2-year comp dentists because they are the most likely to deploy for all 3 services.

Third. It's a tri-service bonus and the same amounts must be paid across all the services according to law. The law is written to prevent competition among the services. It basically says, you either pay the same amount as everyone else or you are not allowed to pay a dime.

Fourth. The ISP (incentive special pay) of $30K ($25K originally) for OMS was set up because they were hit even harder on deployments and the celinig for the multi-year retention bonus is $50K and we can't go over that without changing the law. It was actually easier to implement an ISP.

I'm a 2-year comp dentist and I will be the first to admit that I don't think we pay our OMS guys/gals enough. I'd love to see them get more. However, there are some political issues at play here that will keep them from ever getting close to private practice salary. If you keep it in perspective and remember the intent of this when it was implemented, you'll see why everyone is getting what they are.

 

[AFDDS]

Also, the new pay plan may or may not increase some pays. I know the idea is that no one loses money. I know everyone will be eligible for some sort of retention pay now. However, the last I heard, the new pay plan may be delayed for another year.

 

[Smills91]

I understand the reasoning behind the values, but anyone with a right mind would agree that oral surgeons should be paid more for the same thing (i.e. multi-year retention) due to their residency being 4 years and pulling trauma call every other or third week. All the while, those with the same bonus are not doing the same call or work! krmower, I know you know where I am coming from, just some food for thought!

The military is a microcosm of central planning at it's finest. While it works in the military realm, imagine if a nation went this way.......oh wait, shoot...

 

[coolslugs]

Is it still true that you would need to have at least 8 years of creditable service to qualify for the multi-year retention bonus? For example, a new grad with 4 years of HPSP going into a Comp Dentistry residency (Army), you would be done with your initial obligation at year 6. Would you have to wait another 2 years before you can qualify for that bonus?