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Hi

I think I'm going to apply to dental school. I'm 28 yrs old and an internet entreprenuer. I'm also a former premed and took the relevant coursework and MCAT (35) back in 2004.

I have a pretty good income from the internet that requires virtually no work (5 minutes a week), I want to be a part time dentist/orthodontist to make some extra cash on the side. I'm also pretty bored doing nothing.

I'll list some questions later on

Thx
 
Welcome to SDN!
 
slackerjock99 said:
Hi

I think I'm going to apply to dental school. I'm 28 yrs old and an internet entreprenuer. I'm also a former premed and took the relevant coursework and MCAT (35) back in 2004.

I have a pretty good income from the internet that requires virtually no work (5 minutes a week), I want to be a part time dentist/orthodontist to make some extra cash on the side. I'm also pretty bored doing nothing.

I'll list some questions later on

Thx
Welcome to the board, dont be shy to ask any question you want! BTW im just curious, what kinda business are you running?
 
Nice.

So you want to be a rock star too huh? 😀
 
amsie said:
Something(the SDN name and the story) tells me that this is nothin but a trrrrrrrrrooooooooollllllll.


uh...hey, what's a troll. I saw that a few people got labeled with this title but I still don't know what this is. pardon my lack of knowledge of internet lingo. 🙂
 
martinelli said:
uh...hey, what's a troll. I saw that a few people got labeled with this title but I still don't know what this is. pardon my lack of knowledge of internet lingo. 🙂
:laugh: :laugh: Basicly someone who posts BS on boards just to get things started for no reason but their own satisfaction... I guess thats a good enough definition
 
By the way, why do people always say, "so you want to be a rock star" whenever dentistry is mentioned? Maybe it's just the forums cuz i've seen it a couple times already. 😕
 
golfmontpoker said:
Welcome to the board, dont be shy to ask any question you want! BTW im just curious, what kinda business are you running?

Internet businessess. no, not porn or gambling. haha.

BTW, i'm not a troll. I'm simply a late 20s entrepreneur who wants a secure and flexible part time job to carry me thru the "tuff times". If my attitue upsets you, i'm sorry. My interest in dentistry is admittedly superficial. I dont have a great passion for fixing teeth like some of you.


Lifestyle and money are important to me, I will fully admit (can you admit that?). Dentists live a great lifestyle. Call me a troll if it helps you thru the day. I'm sure some of you college students have no real experience when it comes to issues relating to working, salary, stability, family, bills, 401k plans, health insurance, etc.
 
Copacetic52 said:
By the way, why do people always say, "so you want to be a rock star" whenever dentistry is mentioned? Maybe it's just the forums cuz i've seen it a couple times already. 😕

First time I heard it was like 2 weeks ago.

I Was job shadowing w/ a dentist. He introduced me to a younger patient (my age) and said in a sarcastic tone "this is so and so...he is emotionally torn whether or not to become a dentist, so he is hanging out here today seeing what it is like to be a rock star". Then I died laughing. So now when I say I want to be a dentist, I just say rock star instead.

Since then I have seen people on here say it. Maybe I just never noticed people saying it on here before. Who knows.
 
Congratulations!

You have chosen the perfect fiscal opportunity at just the right time. Take it from me, the majority of fellow interviewees at the dental schools to which I applied were all computer scinece types who were suffering poorly in the post-dot-com-bust era, and clearly deserved a fair shake at making the assload of money to which they were clearly entitled. Or at least that's how they expressed their goals to me over coffee and muffins... but who am I to judge?
 
I'm a computer science major and was thinking about starting my own thing on the side for part time to make some extra cash. But then i got busy applying to dental school and now i'll finally start at NYU dental in the fall. I'm very excited!

I'm curious about what type of business you run. Do you just do consulting??
 
slackerjock99 said:
Hi

I think I'm going to apply to dental school. I'm 28 yrs old and an internet entreprenuer. I'm also a former premed and took the relevant coursework and MCAT (35) back in 2004.

I have a pretty good income from the internet that requires virtually no work (5 minutes a week), I want to be a part time dentist/orthodontist to make some extra cash on the side. I'm also pretty bored doing nothing.

I'll list some questions later on

Thx

im guessing either some type of google adsense / affliate program type website. i am making about 1500-2000 a month. pretty good for side income. i've heard about guys who make 6 figure salaries with this.
 
lgreen_aci said:
Nice.

So you want to be a rock star too huh? 😀

no no thats me...the rockstar...well i used to be about 2 years ago then i had to quit all bands and focus on school. 🙁
 
slackerjock99 said:
I have a pretty good income from the internet that requires virtually no work (5 minutes a week), I want to be a part time dentist/orthodontist to make some extra cash on the side. I'm also pretty bored doing nothing.

Well, when you get to dental school, don't worry about doing nothing. It might be boring for you though, especially if you have no interest in teeth or patient care. You'll also have to work your ass off if you plan to get into an ortho residency. Hope you're looking forward to 7 years of school.
 
If you really do make $15K per month with your internet business and only plan to work part-time as a dentist, I really think that you'd be better off in a different career.

Maybe you should look into investing your money into some kind of business and then running that.

Dental school is going to set you back a few hundred thousand and take tons of work to become an orthodontist and with your alleged ability to rake in money in other places I don't see how it would be worth it for you.
 
aggie-master said:
If you really do make $15K per month with your internet business and only plan to work part-time as a dentist, I really think that you'd be better off in a different career.

Maybe you should look into investing your money into some kind of business and then running that.

Dental school is going to set you back a few hundred thousand and take tons of work to become an orthodontist and with your alleged ability to rake in money in other places I don't see how it would be worth it for you.

this reply makes so much sense.
 
OrinScrivello said:
Congratulations!

You have chosen the perfect fiscal opportunity at just the right time. Take it from me, the majority of fellow interviewees at the dental schools to which I applied were all computer scinece types who were suffering poorly in the post-dot-com-bust era, and clearly deserved a fair shake at making the assload of money to which they were clearly entitled. Or at least that's how they expressed their goals to me over coffee and muffins... but who am I to judge?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Seriously though, If you're just in dentistry for the money or "sump'n ta do" while your computer churns out hundrend dollar bills, you might consider a different career. The best dentists/orthodontists are those that live their profession and sincerely care about their patients' well being - not those who decide to do a few implants to make up for lost website affiliate income. On the other hand, I apologize if I am misreading your motives. Just make sure this is where your heart is - as a patient, I would not want to go to a dentist who chose his or her profession out of boredom.
 
aggie-master said:
If you really do make $15K per month with your internet business and only plan to work part-time as a dentist, I really think that you'd be better off in a different career.

Maybe you should look into investing your money into some kind of business and then running that.

Dental school is going to set you back a few hundred thousand and take tons of work to become an orthodontist and with your alleged ability to rake in money in other places I don't see how it would be worth it for you.


Guys, check out this post i found:

04-28-2004, 11:56 AM
My wife is an orthodontist, and this is what I know:

- private practice average income = $420k, based on a survey by the American Assocation of Orthodontists
- average # days worked: 4
- average # hours worked per week: 32
- average malpractice insurance : <$5,000 per year
 
KwonSau said:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Seriously though, If you're just in dentistry for the money or "sump'n ta do" while your computer churns out hundrend dollar bills, you might consider a different career. The best dentists/orthodontists are those that live their profession and sincerely care about their patients' well being - not those who decide to do a few implants to make up for lost website affiliate income. On the other hand, I apologize if I am misreading your motives. Just make sure this is where your heart is - as a patient, I would not want to go to a dentist who chose his or her profession out of boredom.

No, ur not misreading my motives. I want a lot of money and I dont want to work very many hours. Dentistry fits the bill. My websites will allow me to live relatively comfortably and support a familiy as a dental student. After residency, I have no problems working 3 days a week, 300k.
 
I wish you luck during your interviews with your motivation.
 
1FutureDDS said:
I wish you luck during your interviews with your motivation.

I'm sure i'll make a decent impression in a 30 minute interview.
 
What percent of dental school graduates get to be orthodontists?

I think you are making an assumption that you'll finish near the top of your dental school class and that is not an assumption that I would make. I've had an academic career of finishing at or near the top of each individual class, but I'm not making any assumptions when I go to dental school. It's going to be filled with people that did well in college and you never know who is going to out shine the others.
 
aggie-master said:
What percent of dental school graduates get to be orthodontists?

I think you are making an assumption that you'll finish near the top of your dental school class and that is not an assumption that I would make. I've had an academic career of finishing at or near the top of each individual class, but I'm not making any assumptions when I go to dental school. It's going to be filled with people that did well in college and you never know who is going to out shine the others.

ur correct, orthodontics is prolly as competitive as plastic surgery, interventional radiology, neurosurgery,etc. However, generally, I've found the maxim, "where theres a will, theres a way" is a wise one. If i fail to land an ortho spot, I'll happily make 200k workin 3 days a week as a GP.
 
slackerjock99 said:
I'm sure i'll make a decent impression in a 30 minute interview.

good luck with that... at MS i had the 30 minute interviews (3 separate ones) to which you alluded....but at my TN interview there were 4 people interviewing me in MAYBE a 10 minute timespan...not a whole lot of time to make an impression (yet i did) so good luck with that
 
slackerjock99 said:
Hi

I think I'm going to apply to dental school. I'm 28 yrs old and an internet entreprenuer. I'm also a former premed and took the relevant coursework and MCAT (35) back in 2004.

I have a pretty good income from the internet that requires virtually no work (5 minutes a week), I want to be a part time dentist/orthodontist to make some extra cash on the side. I'm also pretty bored doing nothing.

I'll list some questions later on

Thx
I was wondering if you are a silicon valley guy or somewhere like that? RTP? I don't remember where all the other tech places are. Are their lots of guys in your field in your area who are alos thinking of jumping ship to dentistry?
 
slackerjock99 said:
ur correct, orthodontics is prolly as competitive as plastic surgery, interventional radiology, neurosurgery,etc. However, generally, I've found the maxim, "where theres a will, theres a way" is a wise one. If i fail to land an ortho spot, I'll happily make 200k workin 3 days a week as a GP.

You're a complete jackass...

Where do you get these numbers from dude? You keep posting all of these outlandish dental numbers that are completely wrong...

You will not bring in 200k as a GP unless you've been practicing for years and years, and you have a big community of patients...

If side job is what you want, you definitely will not EVER bring in 200k as a dentist...

Ban this jackass please...

Edit: and you made a 35 on the MCAT?
 
one thing nice about this website is that one is exposed to one's colleagues before classes begin! what a bunch of dinguses! my business partner just got a job offer right out of his GPR for $1200/day plus 30% commission. that is well over 200k/year, and he is only working 3 days a week. i don't think anyone of us has a handle on real market conditions which vary greatly depending upon location. i think it is so funny when people talk about passion, and make it sound like passion is the only reason they are going into dentistry. please--do you mean to tell us that as an undergraduate, you people are so concerned with the healthy mouths of everyone?? i think'yall have been practicing for your interviews a little too much!!
Give the guys some credit. maybe he did pull a 35 on mcat and decided against medicine b/c of certain people he knew he would have to deal with everyday for the next 10 years... 😀


slackerjock99 said:
ur correct, orthodontics is prolly as competitive as plastic surgery, interventional radiology, neurosurgery,etc. However, generally, I've found the maxim, "where theres a will, theres a way" is a wise one. If i fail to land an ortho spot, I'll happily make 200k workin 3 days a week as a GP.
 
Mr. Polynikes sir, i hate to be the one to inform you, but savannah, Ga is not as good as it gets. with a school that caters to Ga residents almost exclusively, i can understand why your vision and understanding about what a gp makes is a bit skewed.

http://savannah.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm about 131,000 people

http://www.finddentisttoday.com/ga/savannah.htm about 83 dentsits/practices

that means that if every person saw the dentist (and we all know how things are in georgia) each PRACTCIE would have a share of about 1579 people (131,000/83) understanding better from where you are coming helps us see why your expectations are so low. outlandish numbers....i am still laughing at that! thanks for the humor, mr. polynikes!





Polynikes said:
You're a complete jackass...

Where do you get these numbers from dude? You keep posting all of these outlandish dental numbers that are completely wrong...

You will not bring in 200k as a GP unless you've been practicing for years and years, and you have a big community of patients...

If side job is what you want, you definitely will not EVER bring in 200k as a dentist...

Ban this jackass please...

Edit: and you made a 35 on the MCAT?
 
i have a lot of respect for your humanitarian goals...you will definitely be an asset to the field. good luck with that....and thanks for letting us know your mcat scores, im totally impressed...
 
lillytwig said:
one thing nice about this website is that one is exposed to one's colleagues before classes begin! what a bunch of dinguses! my business partner just got a job offer right out of his GPR for $1200/day plus 30% commission. that is well over 200k/year, and he is only working 3 days a week. i don't think anyone of us has a handle on real market conditions which vary greatly depending upon location. i think it is so funny when people talk about passion, and make it sound like passion is the only reason they are going into dentistry. please--do you mean to tell us that as an undergraduate, you people are so concerned with the healthy mouths of everyone?? i think'yall have been practicing for your interviews a little too much!!
Give the guys some credit. maybe he did pull a 35 on mcat and decided against medicine b/c of certain people he knew he would have to deal with everyday for the next 10 years... 😀

Just out of curiousity, in what part of the country did your business partner land that job?
 
Polynikes said:
You're a complete jackass...

Where do you get these numbers from dude? You keep posting all of these outlandish dental numbers that are completely wrong...

You will not bring in 200k as a GP unless you've been practicing for years and years, and you have a big community of patients...

If side job is what you want, you definitely will not EVER bring in 200k as a dentist...

Ban this jackass please...

Edit: and you made a 35 on the MCAT?


most dentists are poor businessmen. i happen to be a good one.
 
lillytwig said:
one thing nice about this website is that one is exposed to one's colleagues before classes begin! what a bunch of dinguses! my business partner just got a job offer right out of his GPR for $1200/day plus 30% commission. that is well over 200k/year, and he is only working 3 days a week. i don't think anyone of us has a handle on real market conditions which vary greatly depending upon location. i think it is so funny when people talk about passion, and make it sound like passion is the only reason they are going into dentistry. please--do you mean to tell us that as an undergraduate, you people are so concerned with the healthy mouths of everyone?? i think'yall have been practicing for your interviews a little too much!!
Give the guys some credit. maybe he did pull a 35 on mcat and decided against medicine b/c of certain people he knew he would have to deal with everyday for the next 10 years... 😀

Good post. I did pull a 35 on the mcat. not a great score, only scored a 10 on the verbal. good enough for 94-96%. got into a few medschools but chose a phd program instead (MIT). abandoned that, too, when i realized that phd's make nothing unless you've got 20 years experience. then you can make some good change as a consultant or entreprenuer. i'm not one of those idiot, mindless premeds who had no other option than become a MD.

sorry guys, i'm real, what i have to say is real, and i'm here to stay. watch ur toes
 
crazy_sherm said:
Well, when you get to dental school, don't worry about doing nothing. It might be boring for you though, especially if you have no interest in teeth or patient care. You'll also have to work your ass off if you plan to get into an ortho residency. Hope you're looking forward to 7 years of school.


7 years is a "relative" breeze if you have a side income of ~15,000$ a month. 😎 Additionaly, as a former premed, 7 years ia 35-50% shorter than the path to radiology or orthopedic surgery. GP with no residency is amazing.

DDS is a smart investment, (un)fortunately most dentists are idiot businessmen/women and set up shop in saturated markets.
 
I normally think of myself as a friendly and accepting person, but your thread really pissed me off. I would work everyday of the week making a meager salary if that is what it took to be a dentist. I hope you do get into dental school, in fact, I hope you are in my class. That way I see the look on your old a** face when you realize that none of your peers respect you and I'll laugh when you don't even make the top 50% of your class. Do yourself a favor and sit your fat troll a** back in front of your internet porn business!
 
Viva Las Vegas!!

KwonSau said:
Just out of curiousity, in what part of the country did your business partner land that job?
 
BUMP that ****! let's be honest, money is the name of the game here. people want to be compensated for the time they put in. i know i know, of course there has to be a humanitarian side to everything, after all, we are all seeking jobs in human services, but come, the annonimity of a forum like this should be enough to relax a bit on the "i want to help people/money doesn't interest me" line that we all need in our interviews. time=money, and we all want to make some after our 4+ years in grad school. props to the people who are so overly passionate about working their fingers to the bone just to scrape by. i wish you well! i must ask- have you shadowed much madeliene?? mouths aren't that great, and unless i was pushing 6 figs, i really don't get excited about poking around the oral cavity for giggles. same goes for the foot, or the crotch, or any part of the body. docs get paid for knowing how to do dirty work.
slacker, let us all know if you do fall in the lower 50% of class. with a 35 on the mcat, i don't anticipate that happening.

slackerjock99 said:
7 years is a "relative" breeze if you have a side income of ~15,000$ a month. 😎 Additionaly, as a former premed, 7 years ia 35-50% shorter than the path to radiology or orthopedic surgery. GP with no residency is amazing.

DDS is a smart investment, (un)fortunately most dentists are idiot businessmen/women and set up shop in saturated markets.
 
lillytwig said:
BUMP that ****! let's be honest, money is the name of the game here. people want to be compensated for the time they put in. i know i know, of course there has to be a humanitarian side to everything, after all, we are all seeking jobs in human services, but come, the annonimity of a forum like this should be enough to relax a bit on the "i want to help people/money doesn't interest me" line that we all need in our interviews. time=money, and we all want to make some after our 4+ years in grad school. props to the people who are so overly passionate about working their fingers to the bone just to scrape by. i wish you well! i must ask- have you shadowed much madeliene?? mouths aren't that great, and unless i was pushing 6 figs, i really don't get excited about poking around the oral cavity for giggles. same goes for the foot, or the crotch, or any part of the body. docs get paid for knowing how to do dirty work.
slacker, let us all know if you do fall in the lower 50% of class. with a 35 on the mcat, i don't anticipate that happening.

everyone wants money, honey...that's how we survive in today's world. but some of us really do want to do good things with our lives. the people i'm going to be working on are just that, people... that's going to be someone's mom, cousin, sister, husband, best friend, etc. sitting in my chair. i know i want others to treat my loved ones right so i'm going to do my best to see to it that i help people. that's what dentistry is...it's service to the community. granted, you make a nice living doing it...but ultimately i want to go home at the end of the day knowing i made a difference in this world. not everyone appreciates dentists but oh well...it's what i want to do.
 
lillytwig = slackerjock.
 
Well Lilly, yes I have done plenty of shadowing, and I want to make enough money to have a house,etc. I agree, that it is just a mouth, but each mouth belongs to a human being. I would like to correct what I wrote earlier. I hope slackerjock gets into YOUR class and then you can tell me how you feel when he gets the residency that you want. Also I hope all of the patients that come to your office find how that you really don't give a rats about them, just their money. All my best......
 
Madeleine405 said:
Well Lilly, yes I have done plenty of shadowing, and I want to make enough money to have a house,etc. I agree, that it is just a mouth, but each mouth belongs to a human being. I would like to correct what I wrote earlier. I hope slackerjock gets into YOUR class and then you can tell me how you feel when he gets the residency that you want. Also I hope all of the patients that come to your office find how that you really don't give a rats about them, just their money. All my best......

booyah, maddy 👍 👍 👍 😀
 
Madeleine405 said:
Well Lilly, yes I have done plenty of shadowing, and I want to make enough money to have a house,etc. I agree, that it is just a mouth, but each mouth belongs to a human being. I would like to correct what I wrote earlier. I hope slackerjock gets into YOUR class and then you can tell me how you feel when he gets the residency that you want. Also I hope all of the patients that come to your office find how that you really don't give a rats about them, just their money. All my best......

How tender! i think i might weep! i find that not having such a naieve outlook about people caring for me helps me justify my not caring so much about them. don't get lost there. for example, the person who builds your home probably won't give a **** about you. they may seem to during the whole process, but at the end of the day, they don't. the people who you treat probably won't care if you are happy or not. they just want thier teeth fixed, and nothing more. go ahead and send christmas cards and do all that fun stuff, but its a dog eat dog world, lady, and i hope you survive! i really mean that. unfortunately, genuinely caring about others is a thing of the past. you prove this by wishing everyone with whom you don't agree a poor everafter. 😀
 
leia05 said:
everyone wants money, honey...that's how we survive in today's world. but some of us really do want to do good things with our lives.

agreed

i want to see that kids who are underprivilidged and want to go to school are not missing classes because they have oral infections/diseases. you only live once so why not use at least some of your time to be a positive force in society. it would be refreshing to look beyond our short-term goals of DAT scores, GPA's, and hooking up in dental school and spend a little time thinking about how we might be able to use our gifts to make a lasting contribution.
 
lillytwig said:
How tender! i think i might weep! i find that not having such a naieve outlook about people caring for me helps me justify my not caring so much about them. don't get lost there. for example, the person who builds your home probably won't give a **** about you. they may seem to during the whole process, but at the end of the day, they don't. the people who you treat probably won't care if you are happy or not. they just want thier teeth fixed, and nothing more. go ahead and send christmas cards and do all that fun stuff, but its a dog eat dog world, lady, and i hope you survive! i really mean that. unfortunately, genuinely caring about others is a thing of the past. you prove this by wishing everyone with whom you don't agree a poor everafter. 😀


I may be naive, but I've never been naieve, and don't try to play that off as a typo. You probably have some issues. Try seeking a therapist, but you know what, he probably won't care either...... I am tired of this BS, there are people out there who care, but I guess it's a midwest thing that you can't ,and probably never will, understand.
 
slackerjock99 said:
Hi

I think I'm going to apply to dental school. I'm 28 yrs old and an internet entreprenuer. I'm also a former premed and took the relevant coursework and MCAT (35) back in 2004.

I have a pretty good income from the internet that requires virtually no work (5 minutes a week), I want to be a part time dentist/orthodontist to make some extra cash on the side. I'm also pretty bored doing nothing.

I'll list some questions later on

Thx

Hey, I'd be interesed in becoming an internet entrepeneur -any advice - seriously.
 
Madeleine405 said:
I may be naive, but I've never been naieve, and don't try to play that off as a typo. You probably have some issues. Try seeking a therapist, but you know what, he probably won't care either...... I am tired of this BS, there are people out there who care, but I guess it's a midwest thing that you can't ,and probably never will, understand.

maddy i'm with you on that one but don't forget those of us down south! we care too! well...at least i do...and lily...not everyone has your viewpoint that no one else gives a s### about anyone else. maybe that's how you were raised but i for one was not. my family brought me up to care about others and how they are treated...which is one reason i'm going into this profession. and no, i'm not naive. i know there some are a##holes out there since i've worked in a public service capacity for several years while in school. but you know what? kindness spreads just as easily as smiles, only you gotta actually put in the effort...but people like you apparently don't want to take that time. how sad...
 
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