My typical ugly days at dental school

[DiuLaSengDental]

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Hey guys,

I know I may sound a bit grouchy, angry and well, just upset at the world.

But I am just having a hard time with a bunch of my classmates.

I'm supposed to partner up with somebody else in my class for an upcoming injection/anesthetic lab. AKA stab lab. It's going to commence in the middle of May and requires two sessions of attendance.

The guy I've asked two weeks ago said that he would pair up with me, and joked around if I would trust him. Then I asked him today if he was ready for the upcoming anesthetic lab. He said, "what? I already found somebody else to pair up with!" I'm like "f--k you!" because now, I have nobody to pair up with. This also happened last semester with another guy where I had to find a partner for root planning/scaling lab. That person also flaked out on me.

My classmates are very cliquish, and the class officers are complete jerks.

I ended up with this class because I didn't score well on my tests for one particular course, and was held back a year. Due to that, they tend to be immature, place a wall around them and segregate themselves from me. I even told the associate dean about this kind of unprofessional demeanor, and he told me to suck it up. Wow, just wow.

Some of them even go to the length and talk loud amongst their conversation to criticize me. For example, when two classmates talk nearby me, they say, "hey man, I have old exams from a student two class above us because I have good friends." I'm like "dude, shut the (#O(*#% up." Same behavior also ties in with other students in my class. I even had to get my computer repaired, so I go to the IT office. The guys indirectly make fun of my ethnicity and say to themselvse out loud, "did you know that dental ceramic crowns are now being outsourced to China?" the other guy replies "yeah, well, people in China have to feed themselves!"

Furthermore, most of the students in my class are from in-state, because of the cheap in-state tuition rate. Whereas non-residents like me pay FOUR TIMES the tuition rate of in-state students. It's a totally different culture out here. Reminds me of a redneck culture.

Whenever I go back home for the winter break or summer time (If I even have time), I feel I I came back from Iraq or Afghanistan. I'm dead serious.

I really regret not being on top of my application process while applying to my dental schools couple of years ago. You can read my advice I've posted in the pre-dental section to current prospective students to know what I'm talking about.

Okay, time to go as I have a huge fugly exam to take tomorrow morning.

 

[omaralt]

dunno what to tell you except to hang in there. dental school sucks, and you really dont need to make friends (it's easier though) to get through it. just put your head down, do whats asked of you, and keep moving forward and it'll be over soon. what did you expect the dean to do? force people to be your friend? tell the class to be nice to you? all thats going to do is alienate you further.

your situation is tough because you got held back a year. all the click's have formed and all the friendships have already been made. nobody is looking to make new friends at this point. again, your not there to make friends, your there to get a dental degree. get it and get out and make this a distant memory.

good luck

 

[davefan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cDE4ffwo2I

 

[reapply2007]

What's wrong with hunting and basketball? You sound stressed out and low on mental stamina. Dental school is demanding and is a slow, continous grind. Keep going and eventually things will get better.

 

[oralcare123]

My advise will be to talk to university psychologist.Tere should be someone to help with emotional problems for the students.If you can afford it go to psychiatrist, when I had difficult time I went and never regreted it, becaose they have medications GP do not know about. And the last thing, try to joke about China with them.I am fat and I joke about it.Once you do it, they will have nothing.And I joke about my home country- everyone drinks vodka.Sounds familiar?

 

[dl9006]

your IT guys sound like giant ***holes.
those comments were obviously cheap shots at your ethnicity.

forget about it and move on.

once you're done you can move out and never come back to that place again.

important thing is get your degree because you're already at the point of no return

 

[coolfez]

Hey if it's any consolation, just think about how much those crappy IT guys are making a year and how much you will be making once your out of school! I bet they are just envious of all the professional students they have to serve.

I would try to make friend outside of your D-class. what about the D-class u were in before? Why not partner up with a group with 2 ppl? also i'm sure there are people in other departments you can get to know. Also, join a club or something

 

[Mudfever]

Hey guys,

I even had to get my computer repaired, so I go to the IT office. The guys indirectly make fun of my ethnicity and say to themselvse out loud, "did you know that dental ceramic crowns are now being outsourced to China?" the other guy replies "yeah, well, people in China have to feed themselves!"

You should have said,

"Yeah, I know. It's crazy how China bought out like 30-40% of the US Debt. So, it's kind of like I own your a@@. Hmm, funny!"

 

[girlygirl87]

I ended up with this class because I didn't score well on my tests for one particular course, and was held back a year..

You flunked a year? First Year? Yikes

 

[dl9006]

I ended up with this class because I didn't score well on my tests for one particular course, and was held back a year..

You flunked a year? First Year? Yikes

what's your point other than trying to be condescending?

 

[Vicviper]

I ended up with this class because I didn't score well on my tests for one particular course, and was held back a year..

You flunked a year? First Year? Yikes

It's a lot more difficult than you may be expecting, we already lost at least 3 due to grades before the end of the second semester. 🙁 I can understand where the OP is coming from in that reguard, as I've seen it happen to a number of my friends, but at least he/she goes to a school where you can repeat.

To the OP - people can be jerks... in fact they can be a lot more than jerks. My advice is to just keep your head down, and finish out school. Don't let what people like that say get to you, because people who stoop to petty insults like that are only degrading themselves.

 

[Stephie3]

hey man, its ok...i feel your pain. i had this INSANE roommate who was actually a girl in my class. she was so lazy and never did anything but talk on the phone. i would be studying up until midnight the day before a test and she would just be talking on the freaking phone.

everyone in my class knows that im really smart and do well on tests. my roommate failed an anatomy test at the beginning this semester (not because of inability but because she was sooo lazy. like you dont even know lazy until you've met her) and thats when she really started getting psycho and abusive towards me. she would harass me about EVERYTHING and turn the heat OFF when it was like 32 degrees outside to try to freeze me to death. then she moved out and all the utilities were in her name and she had them all turned off over break when i was gone so i had to get them all turned back on in my name again. then she was always trying to overcharge me on utilities. she was just a dysfunctional abusive mess.

if people are mean to you, its because THEY have a problem. people who's own lives are out of control try to control other people's lives.

the other poster is right. get your dental degree and get out. make it a distant memory. do you think about stuff from your freshman year of high school? no because it doesnt matter anymore and you dont even really remember you freshman year of high school and no one cares about high school. just like no one will care what you did in dental school except for learning how to not kill your patients or mess them up.

 

[Stephie3]

p.s. dental school isn't your end-all be-all. there is life after it. just try to be intimidating back. show them that what they think of you isnt your utmost concern when you wake up in the morning.

 

[DrReo]

It's a lot more difficult than you may be expecting, we already lost at least 3 due to grades before the end of the second semester. 🙁 I can understand where the OP is coming from in that reguard, as I've seen it happen to a number of my friends, but at least he/she goes to a school where you can repeat.

To the OP - people can be jerks... in fact they can be a lot more than jerks. My advice is to just keep your head down, and finish out school. Don't let what people like that say get to you, because people who stoop to petty insults like that are only degrading themselves.

Pitt doesn't allow remediation? Were they basic science or lab courses? 🙁

 

[daisy25]

Sounds like you're in high school. are these people suppose to be our future dentists? Anyways, just beat them at their own game, do well, maintain your relationship with everyone because you don't want them to make you into an angry person all the time. This will be noticed by faculty and staff, even though they really don't understand what's really going on. Impressions are everything since things are subjective.

 

[Vicviper]

Pitt doesn't allow remediation? Were they basic science or lab courses? 🙁

My understanding (and I'll say that I could be wrong, but this is more or less what we were told) of the new policies put in place this year are that you're allowed to remediate if you get a D in one class, but if you get 2 D's in the same semester, you're not given the chance to remediate either, and you're just out. You can't repeat years either. And for different people it was apparently a combination of the two.

 

[BigSmiles]

Oh man, i feel for ya.....Im about to start dental school also....i hope I dont have a bunch of high schoolers in my class =/...good lluck! I just think of it as letting the dogs bark...they cant help it! ( and I kinda laugh at them on the inside, it makes me feel better)

 

[anonymousername]

Hey guys,

I know I may sound a bit grouchy, angry and well, just upset at the world.

But I am just having a hard time with a bunch of my classmates.

I'm supposed to partner up with somebody else in my class for an upcoming injection/anesthetic lab. AKA stab lab. It's going to commence in the middle of May and requires two sessions of attendance.

The guy I've asked two weeks ago said that he would pair up with me, and joked around if I would trust him. Then I asked him today if he was ready for the upcoming anesthetic lab. He said, "what? I already found somebody else to pair up with!" I'm like "f--k you!" because now, I have nobody to pair up with. This also happened last semester with another guy where I had to find a partner for root planning/scaling lab. That person also flaked out on me.

My classmates are very cliquish, and the class officers are complete jerks.

I ended up with this class because I didn't score well on my tests for one particular course, and was held back a year. Due to that, they tend to be immature, place a wall around them and segregate themselves from me. I even told the associate dean about this kind of unprofessional demeanor, and he told me to suck it up. Wow, just wow.

Some of them even go to the length and talk loud amongst their conversation to criticize me. For example, when two classmates talk nearby me, they say, "hey man, I have old exams from a student two class above us because I have good friends." I'm like "dude, shut the (#O(*#% up." Same behavior also ties in with other students in my class. I even had to get my computer repaired, so I go to the IT office. The guys indirectly make fun of my ethnicity and say to themselvse out loud, "did you know that dental ceramic crowns are now being outsourced to China?" the other guy replies "yeah, well, people in China have to feed themselves!"

Furthermore, most of the students in my class are from in-state, because of the cheap in-state tuition rate. Whereas non-residents like me pay FOUR TIMES the tuition rate of in-state students. It's a totally different culture out here. Rednecks, hunting, basketball, etc.

Whenever I go back home for the winter break or summer time (If I even have time), I feel I I came back from Iraq or Afghanistan. I'm dead serious.

I really regret not being on top of my application process while applying to my dental schools couple of years ago. You can read my advice I've posted in the pre-dental section to current prospective students to know what I'm talking about.

Okay, time to go as I have a huge fugly exam to take tomorrow morning.

could it be you? maybe your attitude and/or personality attract unpleasantness. Everyone seems to be a jerk, immature, cliquish, redneck, ect....those kind of blanket statements make me think that you may not be a very likable person or someone who is easy to approach.

He said, "what? I already found somebody else to pair up with!" I'm like "f--k you!" because now, I have nobody to pair up with. This also happened last semester with another guy where I had to find a partner for root planning/scaling lab. That person also flaked out on me.

For example, when two classmates talk nearby me, they say, "hey man, I have old exams from a student two class above us because I have good friends." I'm like "dude, shut the (#O(*#% up."

 

[dentalWorks]

I am not in dental school (yet).... but I was a software engineer and when I first started my job, I had similar encounters with the senior engineers on the project.

Many of them were jerks, when the big managers assigned me to work with the seniors so they can "mentor" me, all they ever did was make fun of my work and give me no meaningful feed back. It used to bother me a little cause it made me look like a *****. Even one of them was "almost" blunt enough to call me stupid to my face (although, it woulda prooved extreamly hazourdous for his health had he done so).....

The thing that got me though it was my work ethic. I never gave up to get better EVEN when no one was willing to help me. after 6 months of self-learning and doing things solo without the need of others help, I slowly became more recognized and people started to respect me more and more. 12 months after after my hire date, I was promoted to "senior software engineer", the same status as the guys who have been there for 5-10 years..

The point I am trying to make is, if they don't like you, fine, be better than them. Find something to get them come to you for help. It sounds to me that you are struggling with your classes AND NOW your struggling to get along with others, these 2 things are usually a recipe for pushing someone to quit their path, I hope that doesn't happen to you.

If you have lab works that require you to have a partner, fine, start doing them solo until the professor comes around and asks why are you flying solo.... tell him "no one wants to work with me".... then he'll either let you do it solo or be forced to put you in a group... End of story

 

[DiuLaSengDental]

You should have said,

"Yeah, I know. It's crazy how China bought out like 30-40% of the US Debt. So, it's kind of like I own your a@@. Hmm, funny!"

LOL! So true. I just ignored those IT computer guys with their comments on some of the dental lab work being sent out to China, or India.

 

[DiuLaSengDental]

I would try to make friend outside of your D-class. what about the D-class u were in before? Why not partner up with a group with 2 ppl? also i'm sure there are people in other departments you can get to know. Also, join a club or something

I would like to partner up with some of the guys from my old class. But that's not allowed as they're up in clinics, while I'm still in the didactic course.

So no, that's not going to work.

I've already asked a ton of people in my class if they have partners, and the majority of them already paired up.

What pisses me off is that I'm paying $55K annual tuition, and can't learn decent stuff.

I'm afraid because next year is clinic year.

I need to practice on somebody! We also have an anestheiology lab coming up, and have no partner. I feel like I am wasting my money! I need to LEARN SOMETHING and get experience!!

 

[DiuLaSengDental]

your situation is tough because you got held back a year. all the click's have formed and all the friendships have already been made. nobody is looking to make new friends at this point. again, your not there to make friends, your there to get a dental degree. get it and get out and make this a distant memory.

good luck

Agree with you 100% omaralt. I'm here for my education. But there are some lab classes where you have to pair up for dental cleaning or giving local anesthetic to your partner. But since most of the cliques have already formed, I have no one to practice on.

I feel like I'm wasting my education by not having somebody to practice on.

And what also pisses me off is when somebody flakes out on me. For example, I asked this guy if he wanted to by my partner for scaling/root cleaning. he said, "okay." I then asked him the next week, a week prior to the lab last year, and he said, "uh what? I am going to work on 'so-and-so" and then I'm left with nobody to practice on.

But yeah, once I'm done with my education in dental school, I'm getting out and making this dental school nightmare a distant memory.

 

[DiuLaSengDental]

My advise will be to talk to university psychologist.Tere should be someone to help with emotional problems for the students.If you can afford it go to psychiatrist, when I had difficult time I went and never regreted it, becaose they have medications GP do not know about. And the last thing, try to joke about China with them.I am fat and I joke about it.Once you do it, they will have nothing.And I joke about my home country- everyone drinks vodka.Sounds familiar?

LOL! Oralcare, I actually do go and see a university-based counseling service maybe once a month. But this semester has been a grueling semester. I know many of you dental students know what I'm talking about!
But due to my booked schedule (tests, quizes, projects, cycle goes on), I have no time to visit the university counseling place.

I don't mind that.

The pet peeve is having classmates flake out on me in the past, and even recently!

They'll say "yeah, I'll partner up with you" and then the next week, the particular student would tell me he or she has somebody else to work on.

That's what's making me upset.

 

[iLuvDAT]

all i want to say is that the dental school you go to sucks. I understand some people get along better with only others of their backgrounds. There are tons of cliques in my dental school as well but when a fellow classmate asks to join for group work, we would welcome them with open arm.

 

[DiuLaSengDental]

I am not in dental school (yet).... but I was a software engineer and when I first started my job, I had similar encounters with the senior engineers on the project.

Many of them were jerks, when the big managers assigned me to work with the seniors so they can "mentor" me, all they ever did was make fun of my work and give me no meaningful feed back. It used to bother me a little cause it made me look like a *****. Even one of them was "almost" blunt enough to call me stupid to my face (although, it woulda prooved extreamly hazourdous for his health had he done so).....

Sorry to hear about your experience with those jerk co-workers of yours, dentalworks. I usually don't care much for IT people. The ones at my dental school are good people. It's just that sometimes, there are the bad apples, and they like to make indirect jokes to people, which is very common where I'm currently living.

The point I am trying to make is, if they don't like you, fine, be better than them. Find something to get them come to you for help. It sounds to me that you are struggling with your classes AND NOW your struggling to get along with others, these 2 things are usually a recipe for pushing someone to quit their path, I hope that doesn't happen to you.

Yeah, I did struggle in my first year, but I've found out what my weaknesses were. And most of them were my study habbits. I really busted my ***** off during most of my 2nd year and passed my courses.

The problem now is that there are upcoming lab sessions where I have to pair up with people in my current class. I can't find somebody from my former class. We have to do scaling/root planning on each other. This guy said he was going to partner up with me three weeks ago. I was like "okay, cool, I don't have to worry about finding another partner." Then I asked him last week if he's ready for scaling lab in two weeks. Guess what? He told me, "what? I don't know what you're talking about! I'm working with so-and-so" That's when I got really really angry at him.

I also had a rough time working with students in other groups sessions this past year. Some of them would downright ignore me when I made comments, smirk or laugh at me when I had something to discuss about, disagree with me on purpose just to tick me off, even if their claim was obviously wrong, and the facilitators wouldn't even give a damn!

Furthermore, I don't know if this happens or has happened in your guy's dental school career. But I've also had professors who didn't bother to answer ANY of my emails!

If you have lab works that require you to have a partner, fine, start doing them solo until the professor comes around and asks why are you flying solo.... tell him "no one wants to work with me".... then he'll either let you do it solo or be forced to put you in a group... End of story

Nah, the instructor(s) will not let me fly solo. There is an even # of students in my class, so somebody will be paired with me "reluctantly."

 

[Lidopaine82]

The problem now is that there are upcoming lab sessions where I have to pair up with people in my current class. I can't find somebody from my former class. We have to do scaling/root planning on each other. This guy said he was going to partner up with me three weeks ago. I was like "okay, cool, I don't have to worry about finding another partner." Then I asked him last week if he's ready for scaling lab in two weeks. Guess what? He told me, "what? I don't know what you're talking about! I'm working with so-and-so" That's when I got really really angry at him.

😕

 

[lotexigeus]

could it be you? maybe your attitude and/or personality attract unpleasantness. Everyone seems to be a jerk, immature, cliquish, redneck, ect....those kind of blanket statements make me think that you may not be a very likable person or someone who is easy to approach.

exactly what i was thinking.

 

[DiuLaSengDental]

😕

I meant to say that I cannot find anybody from my current class. Okay? 😀

 

[DiuLaSengDental]

Gee georgy, Where did I state that everybody in my class is like that? Quit making up stories and get your facts straight!

could it be you? maybe your attitude and/or personality attract unpleasantness. Everyone seems to be a jerk, immature, cliquish, redneck, ect....those kind of blanket statements make me think that you may not be a very likable person or someone who is easy to approach.

 

[lotexigeus]

Gee georgy, Where did I state that everybody in my class is like that? Quit making up stories and get your facts straight!

i'd prob make fun of you too.

just sayin'

 

[anonymousername]

Gee georgy, Where did I state that everybody in my class is like that? Quit making up stories and get your facts straight!

Quit being such a Sensitive Sally and learn the difference between speculation and fact. I speculated that you could be responsible for your own misery and that you might have control over how people interact with you. Your disproportionate response (and defensiveness to critique) along with the consistency of issues you have with people, is making me believe that my initial notion is accurate.

And you never said that everybody in your class is like that (nor have you said anything positive about any of them), but statements like the ones shown below don't exactly paint a pretty picture of the people you interact with on a daily basis.

I could have stayed closer to home and study with a better bunch of people.

But I'm at a dental school far away from home, people are cliquish and close-minded here....

My classmates are very cliquish, and the class officers are complete jerks.

Due to that, they tend to be immature, place a wall around them and segregate themselves from me.

I even told the associate dean about this kind of unprofessional demeanor, and he told me to suck it up. Wow, just wow.

Now I'm at a dental school that I highly regret going to, students here are stuck up, close-minded, prejudice, etc.

So you tell me, why does the problem lie with other people rather than yourself?

 

[Lidopaine82]

I meant to say that I cannot find anybody from my current class. Okay? 😀

Well I meant to say: why are you doing scaling and root planing on each other? do you all have periodontal disease? or do you mean cleanings on each other?

 

[MattH25]

Quit being such a Sensitive Sally and learn the difference between speculation and fact. I speculated that you could be responsible for your own misery and that you might have control over how people interact with you. Your disproportionate response (and defensiveness to critique) along with the consistency of issues you have with people, is making me believe that my initial notion is accurate.

And you never said that everybody in your class is like that (nor have you said anything positive about any of them), but statements like the ones shown below don't exactly paint a pretty picture of the people you interact with on a daily basis.










So you tell me, why does the problem lie with other people rather than yourself?

Ya I gotta play devil's advocate here too. It sounds like the problem is yourself. Face it, you failed 1st year. Even if it was only 1 class you had trouble with, you failed. You've been pegged as the weak one and you're going to be looked at/treated like that as long as you're there. It sounds like you believe there's a systematic effort on behalf of your new class and the professors to ignore and belittle you...ya, there isn't one. You just seem to overreact and get your panties in a wad at every little comment or perceived slight made. Grow a thick skin and get used to (and learn from) criticism, those qualities will serve you well.

Have you ever heard the saying "When in Rome, do as the Roman's?" Instead of referring to everyone as rednecks why don't you try and express a little interest in what they do...you don't need to go out hunting with them but you'd be suprised how much people open up when you talk about their interests.

At the end of the day it's dental school, not make a best friend and have a sleepover school. You invaded their class by being held back, they didn't invade yours. And ya, referring to the place as Afghanistan/Iraq and complaining to the dean that they are immature and unprofessional...well I can see why you aren't invited to any of their parties. Dental schools are a very small world, word gets around quick.

 

[dentalWorks]

come on folks, take it down a notch.

The OP obviously is struggling socially, now perhaps he/she do over react.... but the OP is here to get some moral support, lets do that instead of point the fingers at him/her.

OP, I think what really is going to help you is to find another outcasted student and just be friends with them. I am assuming you have 60-70 students in your class, I am sure AT LEAST another student is also an outcast, try to spot them and be friends with them. If you just make 1 friend, most of your issues will resolve (I think)

Good luck to you

 

[DiuLaSengDental]

i'd prob make fun of you too.

just sayin'

Make fun of me for, what? I don't get what you're saying because you're obviously being a d-bag to me.

 

[DiuLaSengDental]

Quit being such a Sensitive Sally and learn the difference between speculation and fact. I speculated that you could be responsible for your own misery and that you might have control over how people interact with you.

Why don't YOU just be quiet because YOU don't even know the situation I'm in right now. Sensitive sally? Sounds like you because you're getting worked up over my thread. Shessh. 🙄

And you never said that everybody in your class is like that (nor have you said anything positive about any of them), but statements like the ones shown below don't exactly paint a pretty picture of the people you interact with on a daily basis.

Yeah well, it shows that I'm already annoyed and PO-ed about the way people ignore me. That's why I sound irate, but don't purposely come acrdoss like that. That's not my problem. Do you even know that I try to join certain groups for study sessions and they simply turn their back to me and ignore me? I guess not, right mister genius?

 

[DiuLaSengDental]

Ya I gotta play devil's advocate here too. It sounds like the problem is yourself. Face it, you failed 1st year. Even if it was only 1 class you had trouble with, you failed. You've been pegged as the weak one and you're going to be looked at/treated like that as long as you're there.

Sounds like I wouldn't want to work for you! Haha! So what you're saying is that it's okay to pick on somebody because of one's status in the class? What kind of morals did your parents teach you? To sh-t on other people because they have less than you?

It sounds like you believe there's a systematic effort on behalf of your new class and the professors to ignore and belittle you...ya, there isn't one.

Again, you sound like you're just posting to annoy me. Since when is it okay for instructors to ignore students emails regarding homework assignments and questions? I sure would not hire you as a professor, nor would I want you to be my instructor if you think that kind of demeanor is okay! 😡

You just seem to overreact and get your panties in a wad at every little comment or perceived slight made. Grow a thick skin and get used to (and learn from) criticism, those qualities will serve you well.

Oh, so if your child was in dental school, and sent emails to instructors regarding upcoming exams, homework assignments, clarifications for dental lab projects, and they never bothered to respond to your child'd emails, do you think that's okay? I don't know about you, but I sure would raise hell with the admins and the instructor if they did that to my child!

don't need to go out hunting with them but you'd be suprised how much people open up when you talk about their interests.

Again, you're just like anonymousewhateverhisnameis. You don't even know my situation, yet you sound like a preacher or police officer telling me how to think, what to do, as if you were in my situation. Man, forget it. I think I'm just talking to people to want to annoy me on purpose.

 

[DiuLaSengDental]

come on folks, take it down a notch.

The OP obviously is struggling socially, now perhaps he/she do over react.... but the OP is here to get some moral support, lets do that instead of point the fingers at him/her.

OP, I think what really is going to help you is to find another outcasted student and just be friends with them. I am assuming you have 60-70 students in your class, I am sure AT LEAST another student is also an outcast, try to spot them and be friends with them. If you just make 1 friend, most of your issues will resolve (I think)

Good luck to you

Thanks DentalWorks. I am pretty much done reading this thread, as there are people just posting here to piss me off on purpose, when they don't even know my personal and current situation in school.

I do talk to some people. But they already have formed a group or partner. I also talk to one or two of the girls. But here, it's considered taboo to partner up with a girl.

Heck, as a matter of fact, there were handouts being given to students this morning. I wasn't in class because I was drinking water at the water fountain outside. When I came back, I realized that nobody gave a damn to give me any lecture handouts. Oh well, that's life being around some of these childish students.

 

[lotexigeus]

Make fun of me for, what? I don't get what you're saying because you're obviously being a d-bag to me.

For acting like a five year old.

 

[DiuLaSengDental]

For acting like a five year old.

I'm laughing at you too! For acting like a 3 year old just posting to piss me off. Obviously you have nothing nice to say, so go do something productive.

 

[dentalWorks]

lmao !! why is it a taboo to partner up with a chick? shooo if she is pretty who cares. And if shes not, still whats wrong with making a chick friend.

 

[MattH25]

Sounds like I wouldn't want to work for you! Haha! So what you're saying is that it's okay to pick on somebody because of one's status in the class? What kind of morals did your parents teach you? To sh-t on other people because they have less than you?



Again, you sound like you're just posting to annoy me. Since when is it okay for instructors to ignore students emails regarding homework assignments and questions? I sure would not hire you as a professor, nor would I want you to be my instructor if you think that kind of demeanor is okay! 😡



Oh, so if your child was in dental school, and sent emails to instructors regarding upcoming exams, homework assignments, clarifications for dental lab projects, and they never bothered to respond to your child'd emails, do you think that's okay? I don't know about you, but I sure would raise hell with the admins and the instructor if they did that to my child!





Again, you're just like anonymousewhateverhisnameis. You don't even know my situation, yet you sound like a preacher or police officer telling me how to think, what to do, as if you were in my situation. Man, forget it. I think I'm just talking to people to want to annoy me on purpose.

To clarify no it is not Ok fo an instructor to ignore a student. If you have questions on an exam/assignment/project you have a wonderful piece of paper called a syllabus. That should answer 90% of them. Anything above that the instructor has probably answered in class becasue I can near guarantee you another student has asked the same thing. Still have a question, ask in class where they can't ignore you or visit them during office hours. Some people love email, others hate it. If you're not getting a response they are probably the latter and you need to make a march upstairs.

So it seems to me like you're always the victim. You're the victim of your classmates flaking on you, the victim of your instructors ignoring you, the victim of you're administrators laughing at you, and now the internet vicitm of SDN's villainous anonymoususername and matth25. Are you seeing a common theme here? Either we're part of a highly organized and highly secretive viral campaign to insult and annoy you or you are taking offense and getting upset whenever people don't pander to your wants and needs. Which do you think it is?

And to answer your questions, no you will not ever work for me and my parents taught me when things are tough to hike up your skirt, pick up your balls, and go to work. No one gets through life harm free, the successful ones though learn to roll with the punches and make the best of a situation.

 

[teeth63a]

I love this thread. Keep up the good work everyone!

 

[anonymousername]

Why don't YOU just be quiet because YOU don't even know the situation I'm in right now. Sensitive sally? Sounds like you because you're getting worked up over my thread. Shessh. 🙄
Yeah well, it shows that I'm already annoyed and PO-ed about the way people ignore me. That's why I sound irate, but don't purposely come acrdoss like that. That's not my problem. Do you even know that I try to join certain groups for study sessions and they simply turn their back to me and ignore me? I guess not, right mister genius?

 

[dmoney2010]

Oh, so if your child was in dental school, and sent emails to instructors regarding upcoming exams, homework assignments, clarifications for dental lab projects, and they never bothered to respond to your child'd emails, do you think that's okay? I don't know about you, but I sure would raise hell with the admins and the instructor if they did that to my child!

Maybe im in the minority but I dont think it is the parents role to act on your behalf anymore. High school, maybe; college, kinda wierd; professional school, i dont think so. If you want things to change it sounds like you need to change your own demeanor, not expect every single other person to change his/hers. Im not trying to be a jerk but a small change in one own aura often changes how other people perceive them. Getting pissed at everything doesnt really solve any problems. Just my two cents...

 

[jr8047]

first of all, i sympathize with your hurt feelings. i think it would be a good idea for you to find friends outside of dental school (yahoo meetup groups if you have to), to build your social confidence. along side that if you can muster the time it would be a good idea for you to seek counseling. feeling like an outsider takes a huge toll on your psyche...i know, I've been there and if most sdn'ers were being honest they have too. this could cost you your dental career if you don't handle it and get beyond it. it's not a small problem. but if you are able to conquer this issue you will feel unstoppable. sincerely best of luck to you. 👍

 

[SubugataiDDS]

Hey there dilasengdental.

I just want you to know that I have also been in the nasty situation of not passing a course and having to repeat a year. It's not fun. People just ostracize you as if you have HIV. Sad, but the truth. 😡

The toughest part is integrating with a new class and yes, new classes already have their own cliques set up. Another thing that I disliked is that people in my class at my dental school loved to gossip a lot. I don't know about your school.

Just realize that in a couple of years, you will be out of dental school working. You no longer have to see those people who gave you problems. And there's also the concept of karma. If those people want to be mean and dickheads to you, something bad will happen back to them down the read, whether they fail part II of the boards or not get a first-choice job offer to where they want to relocate to.

The tought part, and I agree with you, is finding a partner for your lab courses. I also had no partners, but luckily, the instructor helped me to find one because my class had even # of students. You just have to realize that the majority of the students in a typical dental class are young kids in their early 20s. Average age is 24 for dental students, so it shows why they love to still gossip and act immature at times. Hopefully your class has around 60-80 students??

 

[browncrack]

Deal with it. Do the work. Get some therapy. After all, to change to world, start from within. Start a hobby. You need to focus on your classes. You are wasting your own time worrying about your classmates.

 

[ObviousGuy]

There are always two losers per class, since you have admitted to being one of them, find the other whiny kid in your class and pair up with him.

Grow some, seriously.

 

[NovocainStain]

Sorry you're having such a rough time, but I think you might be reading more malice into peoples' actions and words than are actually there. For example, I don't think those IT guys were making fun of your ethnicity. Lots of people are surprised to find out that dental lab work is being outsourced to China. It's not like you can just send work back if there's a problem and get it returned later in the afternoon or the next day like you can with a local lab. Plus, China doesn't have the best track record with health/ safety standards. He probably read something about lab outsourcing and thought it was interesting and mentioned it because a dental student was standing there and it reminded him of it. And for the other guy to reply that "Chinese people need to eat too", well, that's quite the opposite of racism.

If you tend to be on the defensive at all times, it will be very difficult for you to get along with people around you. Just relax a little, don't jump to conclusions, don't wait for people to include you, try to include them. Ask people how they're doing, how their weekend was, help them with things you may have learned last year (but not in a snarky condescending way). You're in a great position to be very helpful to your classmates and make lots of new friends, as long as you don't assume the worst of them at every turn. You've still got a few years with them, which is plenty of time to turn things around. You can't force anyone to like you or be nice to you and your parents definitely can't force anyone to like you or be nice to you. All you can do is be as friendly and helpful as you can be and people will eventually come around. It may take some time, though, especially if some animosity has already been built up, so don't think things will get better right away. Just be patient and keep doing all you can to make sure that you are being the kind of person that you would like others to be towards you.