New DO schools with the highest potential...

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I'm bored at work so I thought I'd pose this debate, but let's PLEASE keep it civil! Out of all the new schools in DO-world, which ones, in your opinion, has the highest potential to become a powerhouse? And why?

The rules are that the school can't have graduated a class yet!

 

[chizledfrmstone]

MUCOM.

What is this I hear about CUCOM starting up 400 residencies?

 

[embracepeace]

Pointless thread topic, asking for debate, yet knowing how SDN people are, and you request things to be civil?

Might be pointless, but, eh, I'll live with that 🙂 I'm HOPING it'll stay civil...if it doesn't, it doesn't, but if it does, then YAY!

 

[medickdb]

Impossible to tell at this point. Case closed.

 

[Elevencents]

Has been done before. I like Marian out of the bunch.

 

[embracepeace]

Has been done before. I like Marian out of the bunch.

Oops, my bad! I didn't know this was done before 😳

 

[cliquesh]

Wcu had a 63% match rate in the aoa match,which is 15% lower than the average DO school. So probably not Wcu.

 

[BestDoctorEver]

It will be LUCOM... state of the art facility, good curriculum, strong professors and staffs.

 

[ninjaman22]

CUSOM

 

[EMDO2018]

Wcu had a 63% match rate in the aoa match,which is 15% lower than the average DO school. So probably not Wcu.

My state DO school, I think they were a little in over their heads. Hopefully they get things together soon. The UMMC monopoly is a sad thing.

 

[Goro]

marionCOM. I've met the folks running the place and they know what they're doing. They're tight with the Catholic Hospital chain, so rotations and residencies are not a problem; they're tight with the IU system, who are happy to have MU grads go into Primary Care, while the IU folks go off to the specialties, and they're tight with the business community in Indy.

I'm bored at work so I thought I'd pose this debate, but let's PLEASE keep it civil! Out of all the new schools in DO-world, which ones, in your opinion, has the highest potential to become a powerhouse? And why?

The rules are that the school can't have graduated a class yet!

 

[gocougs339]

I expect CUSOM to be a top 10 or top 5 DO school within 10 or 15 years. Their other professional programs are great and they expect the medical school to be even better. Unless something goes horribly wrong there is no reason they shouldn't succeed.

 

[TreadLightly]

Liberty University. They're going to hit #1 soon

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Wcu had a 63% match rate in the aoa match,which is 15% lower than the average DO school. So probably not Wcu.

That be a whole lot of scrambling.

 

[Mehd School]

That be a whole lot of scrambling.

A ms2 friend told me 96% matched post scramble. I still find it borderline unacceptable whether it is a new school or not. Something like 40% of the class that matched had to retake step 1. After seeing the school I'd be very weary.

 

[user3]

A ms2 friend told me 96% matched post scramble. I still find it borderline unacceptable whether it is a new school or not. Something like 40% of the class that matched had to retake step 1. After seeing the school I'd be very weary.

If I'm not mistaken I believe their first class had like a 3.3/24 average and a 70% COMLEX pass rate. Plenty of borderline unqualified students may have been a part of the issue. Apparently they also required 100% attendance in classes.

 

[AlbinoHawk DO]

Marian and CUSOM are the top contenders.

 

[cliquesh]

That's pretty terrible if that's true about Wcu. Comlex level 2 is actually statistical harder to pass than comlex level 1. This actually makes me sad.

 

[Mad Jack]

LUCOM will overtake Harvard by 2017.

CUSOM though, srsly. I really thought about applying even though it's a mission miles from errything I care about.

 

[Mehd School]

CUSOM though, srsly. I really thought about applying even though it's a mission miles from errything I care about.

I didn't return the secondary once I learned about their dress code and attendance policy. I wish I would have been more confident in my numbers and used that money for OSU instead. Oh well, I'm happy where I'm going.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

I didn't return the secondary once I learned about their dress code and attendance policy. I wish I would have been more confident in my numbers and used that money for OSU instead. Oh well, I'm happy where I'm going.

Oklahoma? Why

 

[Mehd School]

Oklahoma? Why

I kind of undersold my numbers and thought I'd be lucky to get in anywhere(which, objectively was true) and most of the schools I targeted were newer and only applied to 3 established schools. I ended up getting II from everywhere I applied except from lecom-b. This includes NSU, PCOM, DMU, etc.

OSU seems to have a really good thing going on. A legit school and teaching hospital that focuses on rural medicine (my preference). I'm OOS(AL) so didn't think I'd have a shot at OSU, but in hindsight I think I would have had a decent shot at an interview. I also want to remain in the south.

 

[Member10billion]

How does TUNCOM fare in the DO world? How are its match rates, etc?

 

[SLC]

How does TUNCOM fare in the DO world? How are its match rates, etc?

About average, like basically every other DO school out there. 90+% match rate, with a mix of good (for DO) matches and average matches.

My only thing with this school is that it's campus is an abandoned Shopko or Costco building in the auto-dealer district of Henderson.

 

[68quebec]

sorry but I'm kinda confused...is this sarcastic or serious thread ? LUCOM over Harvard doesn't seem serious to me.

 

[bionerd89]

sorry but I'm kinda confused...is this sarcastic or serious thread ? LUCOM over Harvard doesn't seem serious to me.

I think the thread is serious but the people that mentioned LUCOM seem to be sarcastic

 

[user3]

LUCOM is basically the poster child for irresponsible, poorly planned expansion of DO schools. Bloated class size (162), terrible university affiliation, within close distance of several other MD and DO schools, and opening on the heels of the failed merger.

 

[AlbinoHawk DO]

sorry but I'm kinda confused...is this sarcastic or serious thread ? LUCOM over Harvard doesn't seem serious to me.

You sure you want to be a doctor when you miss the obvious?

 

[NontradCA]

OUHCOM extension in NE Ohio. Granted it's not a totally new school but example of expanding the right way.

Also the central campus extension is awesome as well.

http://my.clevelandclinic.org/media...chool-extension-campus-in-northeast-ohio.aspx

 

[chizledfrmstone]

About average, like basically every other DO school out there. 90+% match rate, with a mix of good (for DO) matches and average matches.

My only thing with this school is that it's campus is an abandoned Shopko or Costco building in the auto-dealer district of Henderson.

Who cares, WesternU used to be a JCPenny. They just bought an abandoned Chase bank building.

 

[68quebec]

You sure you want to be a doctor when you miss the obvious?

i was asking this if the entire thread was being sarcastic of new schools or only LUCOM. don't you double check even when things look pretty obvious?

 

[Makati2008]

If I'm not mistaken I believe their first class had like a 3.3/24 average and a 70% COMLEX pass rate. Plenty of borderline unqualified students may have been a part of the issue. Apparently they also required 100% attendance in classes.

Not shocked. I rotated with kids from that school and they were the most unprepared students that I EVER rotated with.

Trying to match allo and getting a sloe very late in the season as their first and only.....I hope I am wrong but I don't expect much.

 

[touchpause13]

I was very very impressed by both Marian and CUSOM to be honest. But I'd probably with Marian basically for the exact same reasons goro listed.

 

[TXKnight]

Wcu had a 63% match rate in the aoa match,which is 15% lower than the average DO school. So probably not Wcu.

Hold on, I thought such a low AOA match rate meant there's more ACGME matches, and that can't be a bad thing. I mean TCOM's AOA match rate is in the 40's I think. Can someone enlighten me?

 

[bionerd89]

Hold on, I thought such a low AOA match rate meant there's more ACGME matches, and that can't be a bad thing. I mean TCOM's AOA match rate is in the 40's I think. Can someone enlighten me?

I don't think that low AOA matches always means more ACGME matches. Just because students forgo the AOA match or didn't match in AOA doesn't guarantee that they were able to match into ACGME. I think we need to look at both the AOA and ACGME match rate for each school.

 

[Makati2008]

I don't think that low AOA matches always means more ACGME matches. Just because students forgo the AOA match or didn't match in AOA doesn't guarantee that they were able to match into ACGME. I think we need to look at both the AOA and ACGME match rate for each school.

Agreed. I would be worried in this trend since wcu is new. Now a school like TCOM or MSU DO schools I would assume they are low due to acgme match predominating.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

About average, like basically every other DO school out there. 90+% match rate, with a mix of good (for DO) matches and average matches.

My only thing with this school is that it's campus is an abandoned Shopko or Costco building in the auto-dealer district of Henderson.

Yah, the building wasn't impressive on the inside either. But I couldn't complain.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Hold on, I thought such a low AOA match rate meant there's more ACGME matches, and that can't be a bad thing. I mean TCOM's AOA match rate is in the 40's I think. Can someone enlighten me?

It means that of the percent that applied AOA only 63% got it. As opposed to the national average of 85.

 

[Mr Kenobi]

Obvi

 

[TXKnight]

It means that of the percent that applied AOA only 63% got it. As opposed to the national average of 85.

Well, that is actually pretty bad for wcu. I'd be pretty worried if there.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Well, that is actually pretty bad for wcu. I'd be pretty worried if there.

Apparently the resident on page 1 just said they were some of the most poorly equipped he's ever seen.

I mean... I'm not sure how COCA works with pelim accreditation but with such poor matches there is also a chance of really poor step scores and as such may put the school at risk for prohibition next year.

 

[ChineseKid]

 

[cliquesh]

Apparently the resident on page 1 just said they were some of the most poorly equipped he's ever seen.

I mean... I'm not sure how COCA works with pelim accreditation but with such poor matches there is also a chance of really poor step scores and as such may put the school at risk for prohibition next year.

I don't think coca has ever put a school on probation.

 

[NontradCA]

Coca needs this guy to send them a visit.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

I don't think coca has ever put a school on probation.

I mean what do you do with a school that has a low match rate, likely a poor first-time pass rate, and produces students that residents call poorly equipped? I mean the school is on prelim accreditation as is right now, which is when most schools are working their asses off to make things perfect. And they still let things fall apart this far?

 

[wjs010]

Call me crazy, but ACOM was pretty impressive

 

[Mr Kenobi]

Call me crazy, but ACOM was pretty impressive

I agree. I actually liked ACOM as well. I really considered attending there last year and may have even ended up in the dirty dirty had it not been for that Nov-Dec streak of drama... that just left a bad taste in my mouth and it happened right before seat deposits were due too. Their schools "SDN rep" obviously took a hit haha. Can't even ask current students questions about the school without them getting defensive for no reason.

 

[Dr. Zombie]

I agree. I actually liked ACOM as well. I really considered attending there last year and may have even ended up in the dirty dirty had it not been for that Nov-Dec streak of drama... that just left a bad taste in my mouth and it happened right before seat deposits were due too. Their schools "SDN rep" obviously took a hit haha. Can't even ask current students questions about the school without them getting defensive for no reason.

what was the drama?

 

[user3]

what was the drama?

1. Cole Smalls
2. Dean DUI arrest

 

[Mr Kenobi]

what was the drama?

The dean got a well publicized DUI in his pimped out SUV with ACOM license plates and soon after proceeded to brutally rescind some cat's acceptance to the school for something he said on the interwebz... on the grounds of unprofessionalism. The kid was an SDN regular so it was the talk of the town for quite a while.