not getting to do anything on rotations???

[omental caKe]

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Is it just me or are there other MS3's out there who aren't getting to do anything on rotations? I didn't get to do anything at all during psyc, and now I'm finding myself in the same situation with diagnostic/interventional radiology. I know I'm just starting my 3rd year, but I feel like I should be doing more besides getting the attending coffee and applying band aids.

any comments or advice?

thanks.

 

[LadyWolverine]

Is it just me or are there other MS3's out there who aren't getting to do anything on rotations? I didn't get to do anything at all during psyc, and now I'm finding myself in the same situation with diagnostic/interventional radiology. I know I'm just starting my 3rd year, but I feel like I should be doing more besides getting the attending coffee and applying band aids.

any comments or advice?

thanks.

Rads as a 3rd year? Wow.

I'd talk to my clerkship director, ASAP. Or, if you don't want to go over their heads, you could talk to your residents/attending and tell them that you'd like to help out and learn more. Sometimes people get busy and they don't realize that they aren't teaching you what you need to know.

The coffee thing though...really? You are paying tuition - remember that.

 

[colbgw02]

Welcome to July.

The trend in medicine has been to increase supervision and to not allow procedures done until you've been "checked off" on them. Need proof? Go ask someone that trained in the 60s or 70s how much interaction or supervision they had with the attending as a student or intern. As a result, things previously done by students are now being done by interns; things previously done by interns are now being done by residents, and so on.

Anything going on this time of year is fair game for the interns or residents, because they need to be comfortable with procedures before you do. If you did the same rotation in June, I guarantee you'd have a different experience.

Don't worry, when you're an intern or resident, you'll steal the procedures from the students. It's circular...all good things.

 

[getunconcsious]

Is it just me or are there other MS3's out there who aren't getting to do anything on rotations? I didn't get to do anything at all during psyc, and now I'm finding myself in the same situation with diagnostic/interventional radiology. I know I'm just starting my 3rd year, but I feel like I should be doing more besides getting the attending coffee and applying band aids.

any comments or advice?

thanks.

I understand your frustration, but there really are no procedures to speak of in psych, unless you're at one of the rare places that they do ECT (and even then, the psychs do less than anesthesia does). Do you mean they didn't even let you interview patients? Cuz that would be wack...

Can't speak to radiology, but I can't imagine that there would be much to do there either. Maybe just wait until surgery or OB, or at least medicine or peds, where they actually have procedures to be done?

 

[Ashers]

I understand your frustration, but there really are no procedures to speak of in psych, unless you're at one of the rare places that they do ECT (and even then, the psychs do less than anesthesia does). Do you mean they didn't even let you interview patients? Cuz that would be wack...

Can't speak to radiology, but I can't imagine that there would be much to do there either. Maybe just wait until surgery or OB, or at least medicine or peds, where they actually have procedures to be done?

I agree. Those don't sound like rotations where there's much to do. Psych you should definitely be interviewing. On my psych rotation, I actually got to push IV caffeine and deliver the shock for ECT.

 

[Red Beard]

I don't know about psych yet, but I have to say that I've had a ton of hands on so far in ob/gyn, probably because I chose to do preceptorship rotations for 3rd year. That means no residents or interns, and no other students, just me and the attending.

The drawback of course is that I may struggle next year when I do my sub-I's in a more traditional academic setting....

 

[Samoa]

I did next to nothing on my psych rotation. Oh, I talked to some crazy patients each morning, and wrote a little note on all the crazy things they said. But that was about it.

Interventional radiology is one of those rotations where even interns and residents don't get to do much. It's mostly attendings and fellows, with help from an upper level radiology resident.

It'll get better. Especially since it sounds like you'll have medicine and surgery later in the year, when the interns will be all checked off on their procedures. That's just how it is these days.

 

[omental caKe]

thanks guys!

 

[futuredo32]

I've found that there's been a huge variation between different rotations/attendings as far as how much I am able to actually do. I had a two week rotation in an outpatient OB/Gyn clinic and I was told on the first day that it would be a shadowing experience and watching paps most of the day every day got pretty boring pretty fast. My 2 week ortho rotation was pretty much a shadowing experience as well. One of my FP rotations was on a mobile clinic for the indigent and the students were pretty much doing everything and everything for the patients. Hang in there, there should be rotations coming up where you can actively participate in patient care.🙂 Of course, it never hurts to ask the attending or residents if you can do more than you are doing now.