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That is absurd. This is the real world, not high school where something so ridiculous might pass as acceptable. This thread has clearly gone off topic. It should have ended when I cited the AMCAS instruction manual, which specifically says all college courses, including dual enrollment in HS, must be reported. If some one wants to lie and risk it, then they can do that. Will that cause them to be a bad doctor? Not necessarily, but it provides evidence that they are willing to disregard the rules.

I actually agree with Reptar. It's not good, but most people really just don't care that much about things to report unethical or even illegal behavior. A few examples off the top of my head of this are Kitty Genovese and Jayant Patel, but you really see this every day.

 

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I actually agree with Reptar. It's not good, but most people really just don't care that much about things to report unethical or even illegal behavior. A few examples off the top of my head of this are Kitty Genovese and Jayant Patel, but you really see this every day.

A minor gripe, but Kitty Genovese is not an example of apathy at work, despite the popular narrative.

 

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A minor gripe, but Kitty Genovese is not an example of apathy at work, despite the popular narrative.

While 38 witnesses might not have stood by while she got killed like the original NYT article said, the main point is, people (some amount, probably not 38) witnessed/heard her scream "help, I've been stabbed") and no one helped her while she got killed. Only one person even called the police, and someone witnessed the attack and DIDN'T call the police b/c they were intoxicated.

 

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nothing to cite obviously. its the no-snitching code. its just how it is. most people abide by it.

"In God we trust, all others must bring data." 😉

While 38 witnesses might not have stood by while she got killed like the original NYT article said, the main point is, people (some amount, probably not 38) witnessed/heard her scream "help, I've been stabbed") and no one helped her while she got killed. Only one person even called the police, and someone witnessed the attack and DIDN'T call the police b/c they were intoxicated.

This is not an example of people not caring enough to report it. It's cited repeatedly in the psychological literature as one of the classic examples of the bystander effect; the reason no one did anything is that everyone assumed someone else would or already had.

It's simply a matter of false consensus to sit around and say "most people feel the way I do." I'd try not to underestimate what people would do when they feel slighted, especially when it comes to medical school admissions.

 

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I submitted some grades I took 4-5 years ago that were C's, D's, and F's. It tanked my gpa from around a 3.4 to a 2.55 on AMCAS. I didn't get accepted into any of my top schools because of the low GPA. I don't feel bad about it at all because I was honest and ethical and have nothing to hide. I was still accepted into a med school and I'm gonna be a doctor. At the end of the day, I will still be doing what I want to do without having to hide anything.

Bleeker10, your post was short and simple, but your experience was incredibly motivating for me to hear, and really truely made my week 🙂 I sincerely believe that the many posters on sdn who have or are dabbling with academic dishonesty will be far more profoundly affected by your real life positive example than the scariest of consequences we could reitterate back to them.

Sometimes positive motivation influences us in ways negative motivation never can.