Number of interviews needed to match?

[671002]

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Is there a rule of thumb for the number of interviews needed to match into psychiatry?

 

[Shufflin]

(Number Needed To Match) = (STEP1)e^(λt)η+(STEP2)*sqrt(e^(λt)η+e^λt+sqrt(US NEWS WORLD REPORT SCHOOL RESEARCH RANK))

 

[Lawpy]

(Number Needed To Match) = (STEP1)e^(λt)η+(STEP2)*sqrt(e^(λt)η+e^λt+sqrt(US NEWS WORLD REPORT SCHOOL RESEARCH RANK))

Always like to see good math stuff, so thanks for this. @Matthew9Thirtyfive would also approve 😉👍

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

(Number Needed To Match) = (STEP1)e^(λt)η+(STEP2)*sqrt(e^(λt)η+e^λt+sqrt(US NEWS WORLD REPORT SCHOOL RESEARCH RANK))

Sloppy. It's (Number Needed To Match) = (STEP1)e^(λt)η(CLASS RANK)+(STEP2)*sqrt(e^(λt)η(CLASS RANK)+e^λt+sqrt(US NEWS WORLD REPORT SCHOOL RESEARCH RANK))

 

[Shufflin]

Sloppy. It's (Number Needed To Match) = (STEP1)e^(λt)η(CLASS RANK)+(STEP2)*sqrt(e^(λt)η(CLASS RANK)+e^λt+sqrt(US NEWS WORLD REPORT SCHOOL RESEARCH RANK))

How could I have missed that!

 

[671002]

I think I saw that formula somewhere in First Aid but must have forgotten it. 😎

 

[Doctorows]

I think the statistic I saw floating around last year was 9 or 11 or something like that, depending on whether you're MD vs DO, AMG vs IMG, etc. Never any guarantees in this process though.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

How could I have missed that!

Same way you missed using a question mark there.

 

[Horners]

I think the statistic I saw floating around last year was 9 or 11 or something like that, depending on whether you're MD vs DO, AMG vs IMG, etc. Never any guarantees in this process though.

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[Doctorows]

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Ah I see, thanks. Looks like last year 11 ranks gave US MDs a 95% chance of matching. That's more ranks than I remembered.

Anecdotal data for OP: Last year I ended up ranking 13 as a US MD, all but one within a 2-hour drive from my hometown. Matched well.

 

[Shufflin]

Same way you missed using a question mark there.

not missed my friend, but intentional for effect

 

[TexasPhysician]

Depending on your home program, you may only need 1 interview. My home program (lower competitive range) basically said I could pretend to interview (not show) and I’d be a guaranteed match. They knew me, and they are not competitive. I ranked them last FYI, so it’s not like the offer was a good one.

Outside of a guarantee, I’d say most applicants should rank 10-20 to be sure of a match. A few extra thousand dollars to interview is worth guaranteeing yourself a good future.

 

[Old&InTheWay]

Check out the info on the page below.It actually talks about, number of applications versus number of programs ranked.

Apply smart in psychiatry: New data to consider - Careers In Medicine

 

[FlowRate]

If you have no red flags, decent step scores, and went to a good institution (average to above-average candidate), 8-10 should be fine.

It's hard to evaluate the number of ranked programs figure because plenty of stellar applicants only rank 5-6 places and plenty of bottom-tier applicants also rank 5-6 places. Would be more helpful to be able to slice that data by scores or some other composite objective measure.

If you have a decent near-guaranteed or guaranteed offer, that also helps (if your home program is a good option you don't have to interview at as many places.)