NYU Global MPH??

[mphhopeful12]

Was just wondering if anyone else applied to this program. I got in yesterday. They are asking for a decision really quickly and while I am quite excited about it - I don't know if I am quite ready to commit. Would love to know if anyone else is considering it.

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[swaffles]

I wish I could help but I'm still waiting to hear back from them. The last time I called, about two weeks ago, they said that it takes 14 weeks to hear back - which is crazy talk. I was wondering - when did you send your application in to NYU?

 

[envepi]

Something you might want to consider is that while the Master's Program in Global Public Health isn't accredited with CEPH. Only the program in community public health at Steinhardt is. Just something to take a look at.

 

[cornflakegirl]

Something you might want to consider is that while the Master's Program in Global Public Health isn't accredited with CEPH. Only the program in community public health at Steinhardt is. Just something to take a look at.

I contacted CEPH about this several months ago, and, if nothing has changed, this program is scheduled to be evaluated for accreditation in Fall 2012 (probably October). The program should be accredited by the time anyone starting Fall 2011 would graduate, although I guess there is a small chance CEPH could decide against accreditation, but I would doubt that would happen (for whatever that's worth )..

 

[mphhopeful12]

Thanks for the responses!
I applied in early November and heard back on Thursday - so it was definitely over 3 months before they got back to me.
Now they want me to decide by feb 24th!! So exactly 2 weeks from when I got the admission. As you all know, there are a lot of factors that go into what program to choose and 2 weeks is really just not enough time.
There are so many things I like about the program (I know they aren't accredited yet, but that's not all that much of an issue for me,) but at the same time I don't feel like I can make a decision yet. I asked for an extension in the decision time and was told that if there is available space I can decide after Feb 24th but that my spot wouldn't be guaranteed.

Swaffles- are you seriously considering this program over the others? My thoughts are:

It has so many pros - tiny program (class of 40 ppl), access to 5 different schools at NYU and all of their resources, Global health across all of the concentrations, really great advising scheme, classes are mostly in the evening - so working part time is really easy...

But at the same time - its a pretty new program and I haven't seen much information about it, the fact that it is spread across 5 different schools means nobody is really devoted to it (from a faculty perspective), the newness means that the alumni network isn't all that strong...

 

[swaffles]

Thanks for the responses!
I applied in early November and heard back on Thursday - so it was definitely over 3 months before they got back to me.
Now they want me to decide by feb 24th!! So exactly 2 weeks from when I got the admission. As you all know, there are a lot of factors that go into what program to choose and 2 weeks is really just not enough time.
There are so many things I like about the program (I know they aren't accredited yet, but that's not all that much of an issue for me,) but at the same time I don't feel like I can make a decision yet. I asked for an extension in the decision time and was told that if there is available space I can decide after Feb 24th but that my spot wouldn't be guaranteed.

Swaffles- are you seriously considering this program over the others? My thoughts are:

It has so many pros - tiny program (class of 40 ppl), access to 5 different schools at NYU and all of their resources, Global health across all of the concentrations, really great advising scheme, classes are mostly in the evening - so working part time is really easy...

But at the same time - its a pretty new program and I haven't seen much information about it, the fact that it is spread across 5 different schools means nobody is really devoted to it (from a faculty perspective), the newness means that the alumni network isn't all that strong...

Actually, I applied to the International Community Health program, which doesn't need a previous advanced degree, while the Global Health MPH does (according to their website). But yeah, I'm seriously considering NYU because it's very close to my home in NJ. However, if they're so limited in the response time they've offered, I might have to decline just because of needing time to think it through, assuming I'm offered a spot. =(

 

[Glamdring]

I applied to the same program a while ago as well - and have been told that my application is still under consideration. I did receive an email from the program saying that the Global Health MPH program is merging with the CH program at Steinhardt and is now CEPH accredited.

Anyone out there who's heard more about the program/graduated from it/has met and interacted with students from there?

Perhaps earlier posters could tell me what they felt most attractive, in their opinion, about the program.

Hope that was somewhat helpful.

 

[lebeth]

Hi everyone. I'm a current MPH student in what is now the International Community Health program. Glamdring is right, the Steinhardt program is sort of "merging" with the Global program. The Steinhardt program is now a University-wide program and we can take classes from the different schools like the Global program. The Global program remains different in its curriculum (though the two programs share core classes) and degree prerequisites. Most accurately, the "International" Steinhardt program is merging with the "Community" Steinhardt program to create one International Community MPH program outside of Steinhardt. This effectively removes the language requirement of the International track and allows us more freedom in choosing classes. The Public Health Nutrition program remains the same as far as I know, other than it no longer falls under Steinhardt.

I got some email about an all new website but I don't know when it will be live.

Hope that helps!

 

[mphhopeful12]

It looks like the new website is up for the consolidated program.
As one who was considering the Global Public Health MPH, I'm honestly not sure what to think about the updated program.
As I want to do policy work after my mph, i'm wondering what a concentration in "global health leadership" will mean rather then one in health policy.
Thoughts? Anyone considering the program?

Hi everyone. I'm a current MPH student in what is now the International Community Health program. Glamdring is right, the Steinhardt program is sort of "merging" with the Global program. The Steinhardt program is now a University-wide program and we can take classes from the different schools like the Global program. The Global program remains different in its curriculum (though the two programs share core classes) and degree prerequisites. Most accurately, the "International" Steinhardt program is merging with the "Community" Steinhardt program to create one International Community MPH program outside of Steinhardt. This effectively removes the language requirement of the International track and allows us more freedom in choosing classes. The Public Health Nutrition program remains the same as far as I know, other than it no longer falls under Steinhardt.

I got some email about an all new website but I don't know when it will be live.

Hope that helps!

 

[RAMPA]

It looks like the new website is up for the consolidated program.
As one who was considering the Global Public Health MPH, I'm honestly not sure what to think about the updated program.
As I want to do policy work after my mph, i'm wondering what a concentration in "global health leadership" will mean rather then one in health policy.
Thoughts? Anyone considering the program?

Why not just apply to the MPA at Wagner? Sounds like a much better choice.

http://wagner.nyu.edu/health/spec_policy.php

the Health policy & management department is ranked #3 by USNEWS under the public affairs specialty ranking. (not that ranking means everything, but it's highly ranked for a reason)

 

[mphhopeful12]

I did! I'm pretty sold on NYU in general and actually debating between the two. the question for me is do i get a policy degree specializing in health or a health degree specializing in policy. I love the idea of a really small program that takes classes all over the school together and i'm trying to figure out if there is any real difference (for someone studying policy) between getting an mph and an mpa (i'll be able to take the mph core classes that i am interested in as electives while at wagner if i decide to go there)

Why not just apply to the MPA at Wagner? Sounds like a much better choice.

http://wagner.nyu.edu/health/spec_policy.php

the Health policy & management department is ranked #3 by USNEWS under the public affairs specialty ranking. (not that ranking means everything, but it's highly ranked for a reason)

 

[Glamdring]

Hey everyone,

Was extremely impressed with the program on paper and decided that I needed to have a closer look at it and visited them earlier in the week.

I met with the admissions officer and sat in on a class and spoke at length to the prof after class.This is the gist of my visit there:


Admissions Officer’s Input:

• Everyone in the Global Leadership program are graduate students with Varied backgrounds – 1/3rd are from a medical background
• Inter disciplinary – Faculty are drawn from all other programs, not too many GH specific faculty : Leaders in policy and management
-Year-long capstone project: work in a multidisciplinary team. Work is of publishable quality and is directed at a real issue.
• Faculty are active professionals; not restricted by research work as much.
-great work opportunities in NYC (as to be expected I suppose)

Professor’s Perspective:

• Location,location (NYC) to be involved with health care and global health
•Inter disciplinary nature of program means faculty in each area are specialists in their field
-mentioned that it wasn't a program for everyone (diff from traditional MPH schools)

Student Perspective:
• Spoke to a Nepali student – he said that the program was more or less balanced between quantitative/qualitative but that he personally thought they are a little light on the skills/tools side as opposed to theory

Questions:
•Unclear how strong core course teaching is? – due to the fact that it isn’t a traditional type of public health school and there's no cohesive school of public health that runs the program
•No PhD students at NYU in public health – and apparently very few go on to do a PhD. Limited amount of research work taking place at NYU and restricted opportunities to be involved in research

If anyone has anything to add or comment please do, would appreciate some perspective on my musings. I'm thinking very seriously about taking it up - the lure of NYC and the multidisciplinary nature of the program are big hits for me - however there do seem to be some deficiencies as well.

Thanks!

 

[MPHStudent2013]

Hey everyone,

Was extremely impressed with the program on paper and decided that I needed to have a closer look at it and visited them earlier in the week.

I met with the admissions officer and sat in on a class and spoke at length to the prof after class.This is the gist of my visit there:


Admissions Officer’s Input:

• Everyone in the Global Leadership program are graduate students with Varied backgrounds – 1/3rd are from a medical background
• Inter disciplinary – Faculty are drawn from all other programs, not too many GH specific faculty : Leaders in policy and management
-Year-long capstone project: work in a multidisciplinary team. Work is of publishable quality and is directed at a real issue.
• Faculty are active professionals; not restricted by research work as much.
-great work opportunities in NYC (as to be expected I suppose)

Professor’s Perspective:

• Location,location (NYC) to be involved with health care and global health
•Inter disciplinary nature of program means faculty in each area are specialists in their field
-mentioned that it wasn't a program for everyone (diff from traditional MPH schools)

Student Perspective:
• Spoke to a Nepali student – he said that the program was more or less balanced between quantitative/qualitative but that he personally thought they are a little light on the skills/tools side as opposed to theory

Questions:
•Unclear how strong core course teaching is? – due to the fact that it isn’t a traditional type of public health school and there's no cohesive school of public health that runs the program
•No PhD students at NYU in public health – and apparently very few go on to do a PhD. Limited amount of research work taking place at NYU and restricted opportunities to be involved in research

If anyone has anything to add or comment please do, would appreciate some perspective on my musings. I'm thinking very seriously about taking it up - the lure of NYC and the multidisciplinary nature of the program are big hits for me - however there do seem to be some deficiencies as well.

Thanks!

This is great Glamring, thanks for putting it down so that the rest of us can read about it. After reading this I'm going to follow suit and see if I can go sit in on a class and talk to an admissions adviser. That sounds like a great way to go about it. I'm going to the open house on the 21st but they always have students that are so pro-NYU that it hardly seems worth asking them questions, I'd much rather sit in on a class and ask someone who hasn't been pre-picked for their enthusiasm to get a more realistic answer. I'm having the same concerns about the NYU program: since it isn't centralized how is the program managed? How is student support? From my experiences to date I'm not impressed with the administration's support/student services skills. They seem to be trained to give you the royal run around. On the other hand on paper it looks like the perfect place for me. I think you were right to go sit in on a class and see what the program would actually be like. Keep us posted if you have any other insights!

 

[Glamdring]

No problem at all. One thing that I forgot to mention (which i think lebeth alluded to earlier) was that this is the first time that the global leadership program and the community/Intl health are coming together under the university-wide MPH category of NYU's. Hence this is the first time that the global masters has received CEPH accreditation - which I would imagine also means that the program is getting more fleshed out.

 

[Glamdring]

Actually, I applied to the International Community Health program, which doesn't need a previous advanced degree, while the Global Health MPH does (according to their website). But yeah, I'm seriously considering NYU because it's very close to my home in NJ. However, if they're so limited in the response time they've offered, I might have to decline just because of needing time to think it through, assuming I'm offered a spot. =(

Hey Swaffles,

Noticed that you were contemplating Emory as well (read some of your posts on the emory threads). Any thoughts on the Emory vs NYU debate? I'm still making up my mind. Would love to go to Emory. Personal reasons on the other hand are drawing me toward New York City and NYU.Sheesh.

 

[swaffles]

Hey Swaffles,

Noticed that you were contemplating Emory as well (read some of your posts on the emory threads). Any thoughts on the Emory vs NYU debate? I'm still making up my mind. Would love to go to Emory. Personal reasons on the other hand are drawing me toward New York City and NYU.Sheesh.

Hey Glamdring!

It was definitely a hard decision at first because Emory sounds like such a great school. However, I might not be the best person to ask, program-wise, because I didn't even visit Emory and NYU's Visit Day is in a few weeks (hopefully I'll see you there!).

Personally, I found it very hard to tear myself away from NYC so I'm currently debating between NYU and Columbia, still. Luckily NYU's final decision day is April 27th so if I change my mind between tomorrow (regular final day for almost every other school) and then....

I prefer NYU over Emory because NYC just has SO MANY opportunities. Yes, Emory has CDC and has a huge network, too, but I want to end up with a human rights organization of some sort and NYC is the better place to find those types of connections. Also, NYU's program is supposed to be stronger this year because they finally stopped being confusing and just combined the two different international programs, so that's good. However, Emory already has a well developed school that can stand alone and is given lots of high praise. In case it's something you're interested in, NYU seems like it has a bigger international outreach (it's definitely got the more cosmopolitan feel) than does Emory, which seems to have more US based research opportunities than not.

I wish I could help more! My situation is slightly different because I want to do international studies as well as public health so I'm trying to choose a school that is strong in that area as well (Emory doesn't really stand out in that field as much as NYU and Columbia).

Conclusion: Consider where you want to work AFTER you graduate and what sort of network you want to create. Grad school is only two years long and so in the long term, it should really depend on what you want to do after you graduate (a life choice that's usually longer than two years, haha)

Good luck! It's a hard decision!

 

[Glamdring]

Hey Swaffles,

Sending you a message with some of my thoughts.

 

[MPHStudent2013]

Anyone else decided NYU? I think that's the way I'm headed.

 

[MPHtoPHD]

Hey everyone,

Was extremely impressed with the program on paper and decided that I needed to have a closer look at it and visited them earlier in the week.

I met with the admissions officer and sat in on a class and spoke at length to the prof after class.This is the gist of my visit there:


Admissions Officer’s Input:

• Everyone in the Global Leadership program are graduate students with Varied backgrounds – 1/3rd are from a medical background
• Inter disciplinary – Faculty are drawn from all other programs, not too many GH specific faculty : Leaders in policy and management
-Year-long capstone project: work in a multidisciplinary team. Work is of publishable quality and is directed at a real issue.
• Faculty are active professionals; not restricted by research work as much.
-great work opportunities in NYC (as to be expected I suppose)

Professor’s Perspective:

• Location,location (NYC) to be involved with health care and global health
•Inter disciplinary nature of program means faculty in each area are specialists in their field
-mentioned that it wasn't a program for everyone (diff from traditional MPH schools)

Student Perspective:
• Spoke to a Nepali student – he said that the program was more or less balanced between quantitative/qualitative but that he personally thought they are a little light on the skills/tools side as opposed to theory

Questions:
•Unclear how strong core course teaching is? – due to the fact that it isn’t a traditional type of public health school and there's no cohesive school of public health that runs the program
•No PhD students at NYU in public health – and apparently very few go on to do a PhD. Limited amount of research work taking place at NYU and restricted opportunities to be involved in research

If anyone has anything to add or comment please do, would appreciate some perspective on my musings. I'm thinking very seriously about taking it up - the lure of NYC and the multidisciplinary nature of the program are big hits for me - however there do seem to be some deficiencies as well.

Thanks!

Hi-
I am currently in my last semester within the NYU International and Community Health program.

Just as a quick side note- There actually is a PhD program through the previous Steinhardt program. Very few do go on to get their PhD initially because a lot of students are happy at the level of work they are able to do with an MPH, at least for a while. I though am now looking into going back to get my PhD in public health so have recently started looking into the program at NYU.

Clearly I have enjoyed my experience at NYU. I wish the school wide collaboration had happened two years earlier but it is definitely a positive step for students in the future.

Good Luck!

 

[NYCitygirl]

Something you might want to consider is that while the Master's Program in Global Public Health isn't accredited with CEPH. Only the program in community public health at Steinhardt is. Just something to take a look at.

Hmmm....so is this the reason why I everyone seem to find much support for NYU's MPH? (b/c of lack of accredation with CEPH) Damn, I knew there was a reason why!

 

[MPHStudent2013]

Hmmm....so is this the reason why I everyone seem to find much support for NYU's MPH? (b/c of lack of accredation with CEPH) Damn, I knew there was a reason why!

The Global MPH (previously through Wagner) wasn't. The Steinhardt programs always were. Since the schools have been consolidated the Global MPH now is CEPH accredited.

 

[swaffles]

Hi!

Quick question that I hope someone with an NYU acceptance sees!

Did anyone go to the admit day for NYU last friday? Can anyone share some thoughts? I wanted to go but we had to get our house fumigated (ugh, bad times). I know today is the last day to accept or decline but I just want to get some final impressions...

Thanks!