They said it will be 360
NYU interview done! Thoughts and stuff
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Holy, next years class is 360?! On one hand this is great because it increase the change of acceptance by alot... but on the other hand, dang, I would HATE to have 359 other classmates in one dental school.
They said they are dividing the class into four groups and hiring more faculties.
This is because they're not having the international students come in after the second year anymore, now everyone enters at the same time I think
yes. that is why.
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Wow. Undergrad part 2 I guess.
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There was (is?) a 3-year program for international dentists to become American-trained. These individuals joined in year 2 and finished year 4 with the rest. I'm not sure if they scrapped the program entirely and are now taking more regular 4-yr students, or if the international program is now 4 years.
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Hey, so I graduated NYU in 2011 and had a (mostly) great experience. I'd be willing to answer any questions anyone has about the school (keeping in mind I'm over a year out)...
As for the size I thought it was a huge plus. You find your group of friends just like you would at a smaller school, but with a large class size you have a large number of faculty. There's never just ONE way to do anything in dentistry and with so many faculty you can really learn a lot of neat tips and tricks if you're a curious, self-starter type of learner. As for clinics, you're broken down to a group of about 50 (20-30 from 3rd and 4th year classes) so it's really manageable. Big "dental hospital" with the full spectrum of excellent post-grad programs so you can sit in on jaw surgeries or sinus lifts if you want, or go up to the 9th floor and get involved in cancer research. Fabricate a CAD/CAM onlay. Learn how to interpret a CBCT. Take part in an oral/facial pain clinic. Apply for honors programs in your 4th year and place implants, restore big esthetic cases, or take hospital call. With a bigger school you get a bigger experience. Plus, it's New York so you never know who's going to walk through that door. I had a patient who hadn't taken her dentures out ONCE in the 20 years she had them. They were locked in place by the biggest epulis the oral surgeon working the case had ever seen. I'm very satisfied with the experience.
The biggest negatives? It's a self-learning school. My first patient was a painful pulpotomy. First time seeing a patient and I'm accessing the pulp. It took me 30 minutes to place the rubber dam 🙂 That was tough. Also, of course, it is VERY expensive. Be certain you know what you're getting yourself into before taking on that kind of debt-load...
Good luck everyone!
As for the size I thought it was a huge plus. You find your group of friends just like you would at a smaller school, but with a large class size you have a large number of faculty. There's never just ONE way to do anything in dentistry and with so many faculty you can really learn a lot of neat tips and tricks if you're a curious, self-starter type of learner. As for clinics, you're broken down to a group of about 50 (20-30 from 3rd and 4th year classes) so it's really manageable. Big "dental hospital" with the full spectrum of excellent post-grad programs so you can sit in on jaw surgeries or sinus lifts if you want, or go up to the 9th floor and get involved in cancer research. Fabricate a CAD/CAM onlay. Learn how to interpret a CBCT. Take part in an oral/facial pain clinic. Apply for honors programs in your 4th year and place implants, restore big esthetic cases, or take hospital call. With a bigger school you get a bigger experience. Plus, it's New York so you never know who's going to walk through that door. I had a patient who hadn't taken her dentures out ONCE in the 20 years she had them. They were locked in place by the biggest epulis the oral surgeon working the case had ever seen. I'm very satisfied with the experience.
The biggest negatives? It's a self-learning school. My first patient was a painful pulpotomy. First time seeing a patient and I'm accessing the pulp. It took me 30 minutes to place the rubber dam 🙂 That was tough. Also, of course, it is VERY expensive. Be certain you know what you're getting yourself into before taking on that kind of debt-load...
Good luck everyone!
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Hi and thanks for offering your advice. I was wondering if you could speak about the debt of NYU. First of all the number thrown around here is 400-500k. How accurate is this, and what have you seen with yourself and classmates. Is the debt crippling or manageable? Is it easy to save by living frugally? Would you recommend attending a cheaper school if we have the option?
thanks for taking your time to help us hopefuls. I interviewed at the school and I love it. I hope to hear good news on Dec 3rd. One thing I would like to know is how could I prepare for attending school there. I already live in new york city so I know the area, so I am talking about preparing academically. Are there an classes that are particularly difficult? Are there things I can do to make my time there easier? How do I get myself to a good start the first year? Any professors we need to know about? Thank you so much!
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If that's the number you're being told then that's probably the number. My debt is slightly smaller but still substantial. I believe I'm right at the cusp of having a manageable debt-load.
I actually WOULD advise you to go to a cheaper school if you have the option. If you go to NYU you have to fully appreciate that you will have a HUGE debt burden following you for a long time -- live as humbly as you can while you're there and plan on continuing that lifestyle for years after graduating to pay down/off your debt.
I actually WOULD advise you to go to a cheaper school if you have the option. If you go to NYU you have to fully appreciate that you will have a HUGE debt burden following you for a long time -- live as humbly as you can while you're there and plan on continuing that lifestyle for years after graduating to pay down/off your debt.
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There's not much you need to prepare for. Enjoy your free time and get ready to hit the ground running.
If you're really that bored out of your skull, pick up a copy of Netter's Head and Neck Anatomy for Dentists (little pink paperback) and start reviewing anatomy. You would also benefit from learning/reviewing biochem. Those two classes were the steepest learning curves. Also, be fully prepared to spend extra time in the lab practicing. A lot of classmates realized too late that it takes more practice than what is scheduled to become good at wax-ups and tooth preps. The first time you pick up a handpiece is very exciting, but you're a long way from being able to do A+ quality work -- a lot of classmates did a little bit every day and practiced more than the required number of teeth. If you're close to a dentist in town, maybe ask if they still have their dentoform. Maybe they can give you some drilling tips before you start? Just a thought...
Good luck!
did you commute to classes, or did you rent near by? What would you recommend?
Thanks! I will definitely start reading up on head and neck anatomy. Also, if I would to start practicing doing the wax-ups and teeth preps, how would I go about getting the proper tools? I would like to get things that I could use when I go to NYU too of course.
This seems like a silly question... but what are teeth preps?
I'd rather relax and minimize my chance of getting burned out. It'll be non-stop studying for four years once you start. You're also not putting yourself at a noticeable advantage considering the pace that you'll probably be studying at during that summer.
At NYU, the tools are rented.
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Will BU and TUFTS also be expanding their class size?
They are not really expanding their class size, the extra students are international dentist.
Also, speaking of the cost of attending NYU, what do you know about scholarships given to students? Do you know classmates that got them?
Full scholarship. Selectively given based on school attended, GPA, DAT, and EC.
http://www.oralsurgeryofnashville.com/staff.php
I wonder if it covers living expenses
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I had a partial scholarship. Nothing huge but it definitely took the edge off. Totaled about 40k over the 4 years.
I know of people who got more. There is money to be had and, best I know it is exclusively merit-based.
You can also earn a few extra bucks by tutoring in your "spare" time. I helped out in sim lab and in anatomy lab for something like $15/hour. Don't know if they still pay for this though -- heard it might change to volunteer-based.
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She graduated awhile ago -- I don't think they're giving out full rides anymore. I could be wrong though. However, I will nearly guarantee that "school attended" does not figure into the selection criteria for any scholarship...
Spoke with the dean of admissions at the interview. Verbatim aside from the full-scholarship.
What did she say exactly?
"Selectively given based on school attended, GPA, DAT, and EC."
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Anyone interviewing on October 9th that wants to share a taxi after the interview to LaGuardia airport?? PM me : )
Interesting. During my day at NYU, they said they have about 25 scholarships and they did mention something about a full scholarship. Maybe there is only one of them, i wonder who would get it this year.
I believe they said 360 at the interview; they are no longer going to do AP--so all international dentists will enter with NYU and be there for four years instead of three. I went on October 25.
I actually, still wonder why that's being done..If other programs can do it in 2 years, why does NYU have to do it in 4. I sure hope it's not just for the money. :X
I had only been to one other interview before, and I have to say that the NYU interview was not stressful at all. I was showered by compliments on my achievements about 90% of the time, and honestly, I had never had anyone tell me that so eloquently and sincerely--I was moved to tears by that...maybe that did not have such a good impression, but...yeah.
I actually, still wonder why that's being done..If other programs can do it in 2 years, why does NYU have to do it in 4. I sure hope it's not just for the money. :X
I had only been to one other interview before, and I have to say that the NYU interview was not stressful at all. I was showered by compliments on my achievements about 90% of the time, and honestly, I had never had anyone tell me that so eloquently and sincerely--I was moved to tears by that...maybe that did not have such a good impression, but...yeah.
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Don't get full of yourself. Have some humble pie. It's just NYU and all schools will put up a poker face. Interesting how you were moved to tears by your own praises.
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Haha sounds you and I had the same interviewer... who also kept telling me how amazing all my accomplishments were. Which was actually really kind of strange. I wasn't sure what to make of it but I guess it's not such a bad thing.
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If i am correct this will be in effect for 2014 cycle? Correct? And there will be about 360 but those seats will still be shared with foreign dentist...
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No, it is in effect THIS cycle.
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So are you saying they accepting 360 total? Because that was the same as before that includes predents(240+)and international dentist (150)? Or are you saying they will be accepting 360 predents plus international dentists?-->which will be kind of too many students at the time. Dont you think? Next year they wont accept international students so they will increase the number but it will be the same ratio, just maybe more predents instead of too many international students..do i make sense?
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Omg why is this still not clear?
Old way: accept 240 predents in first year, add 120 international dentists 2nd year.
New way starting this cycle: accept 240 predents and 120 international dentists in the first year.
Essentially the only thing that's changed is class size is bigger now starting from year 1. Total number of graduates still the same. Chance of getting accepted as a predent still same (assuming same number of applicants).
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I think you are incorrect!! The new way accepts 360 predents and 120 international to start on second year for this cycle..since there will be NO more 120 international for 2014 cycle then there will still be 360 students on second year next cycle but all predents. Its not something to say "omg why is this not clear?"..this a forum where positive helpfull students participate..if is a problem, just dont read or reply. Its simple...this year is the last year they offer the 3year program..the four year program for international students will not be in effect until next cycle...read this especially section that says "also please note"
http://www.nyu.edu/dental/academicprograms/ddsap/index.html
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IIRC, Dr. Mejia said that this year (class of 2017) will be the first year where the students matriculating together will graduate together so no international students will be added during second year. If this 360 figure is correct then this would mean that there would be 240 predents and 120 international starting first year. I'm thinking that a graduating class of 480 would be way too much for them to accommodate (if what you say is the case).
Edit: didnt see your link. I guess they changed their minds lol...
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Hey, I was wondering what made you change your mind about the cost. It's great that you think you did well...I hope you did!
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Exactly, me too. But seeing the link from ccm5166 it seems like they're keeping the 3-yr program this cycle and getting rid of it next cycle... no idea what that means to class size next cycle but this shouldn't really affect anything for applicants this year.
To me the most important thing is being comfortable in my environment. That's where I can work and do my best. The overall feel I got from the school was enjoyable. The large class size seems to me to take off more pressure from the student and not worry about comparing yourself to others. Also NYC is just and awesome area. Depends on your preference I guess 👍.
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Anyone interviewing in November?
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Just interviewed there, and I thought it was awesome! 😀 The rumors on this forum do not do the school justice. It is a shame. NYU is great, and good luck on your interview. 👍 I am sure you will fall in love with the school like I have.
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