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Is it possible to get off this waitlist? I already graduated and have been working at a dental clinic full time ever since... any advice on how I should go about this from people who have achieved this difficult feat?
 
Yenta225 said:
Is it possible to get off this waitlist? I already graduated and have been working at a dental clinic full time ever since... any advice on how I should go about this from people who have achieved this difficult feat?

i think if you're waitlisted, you have a pretty good chance of getting in, esp. at nyu.
 
Yenta225 said:
Is it possible to get off this waitlist? I already graduated and have been working at a dental clinic full time ever since... any advice on how I should go about this from people who have achieved this difficult feat?

I think you do have a chance. I heard of this one dude on SDN who got an acceptance letter in august!

By the way, do you mind sharing your stats?
 
dentwannabe said:
I think you do have a chance. I heard of this one dude on SDN who got an acceptance letter in august!

By the way, do you mind sharing your stats?

19/19/19 dat...

my GPA is around a 3.1.. my science is well... alot lower. I have a ton of dental experience and went to Cornell for undergrad which is why my GPA is bad.
 
Yenta225 said:
19/19/19 dat...

my GPA is around a 3.1.. my science is well... alot lower. I have a ton of dental experience and went to Cornell for undergrad which is why my GPA is bad.
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not to be a dick, but don't blame your low gpa on the school you went to. if you told the interviewer that, maybe that's why you have been waitlisted.

seriously though, good luck on getting off the wait list.
 
whiskeysour said:
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not to be a dick, but don't blame your low gpa on the school you went to. if you told the interviewer that, maybe that's why you have been waitlisted.

seriously though, good luck on getting off the wait list.


you got a 30 on the dats?
 
Yenta225 said:
19/19/19 dat...

my GPA is around a 3.1.. my science is well... alot lower. I have a ton of dental experience and went to Cornell for undergrad which is why my GPA is bad.

Another question when did you submit your aadsas application?
 
i'm not saying that it is the only factor... but the competitive nature of the school you go to definitely will influence gpa

whiskeysour said:
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not to be a dick, but don't blame your low gpa on the school you went to. if you told the interviewer that, maybe that's why you have been waitlisted.

seriously though, good luck on getting off the wait list.
 
when you select an undergraduate institution to attend, the most important thing is to find the best school that you can do well at. if you barely get into a highly competitive school, and you constantly score in the bottom of your class because of the competition, you are not doing yourself a favor. the wiser thing to do is to find a somewhat less competitive school, where you can test on a consistent basis at the top of your class. the key is to find the best college that allows you to get the highest gpa. you are better off getting a 3.6 at rutgers than a 2.8 at penn. or a 3.55 at u of maryland than a 2.7 at princeton. by doing poorly at a highly competitive school, you have shown your dental school that you don't do well when things get tough-not what they want to see. they would rather see you show them success. having said that, i do wish you luck in being accepted. if not, attending grad school, and raising your science gpa might help your chances of admission.
 
Yenta225 said:
Is it possible to get off this waitlist? I already graduated and have been working at a dental clinic full time ever since... any advice on how I should go about this from people who have achieved this difficult feat?

Nothing wrong with your gpa.

I had a 3.2 gpa coming from Rutgers.

Just re-take your dat's and kill them, 22+, and they'll accept you w/out interview.
 
whiskeysour said:
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not to be a dick, but don't blame your low gpa on the school you went to. if you told the interviewer that, maybe that's why you have been waitlisted.

seriously though, good luck on getting off the wait list.

im not blaming it on the school. I probably should have done things differently , like taken my prereqs at a state school like
many of my classmates did.They said it was alot easier, and now that I am taking grad classes at a state school, I completelly agree. I can get an A on an exam with minimal effort, while at cornell getting a B after studying alot was difficult with the curve. All of you that went to colleges that were tough with grading can agree with me. Unfortunatly, this is all a numbers game, and there is nothing you can do about it.
 
I know exactly what you are talking about... word for word. And, you said it correctly, its a numbers game

Yenta225 said:
im not blaming it on the school. I probably should have done things differently , like taken my prereqs at a state school like
many of my classmates did.They said it was alot easier, and now that I am taking grad classes at a state school, I completelly agree. I can get an A on an exam with minimal effort, while at cornell getting a B after studying alot was difficult with the curve. All of you that went to colleges that were tough with grading can agree with me. Unfortunatly, this is all a numbers game, and there is nothing you can do about it.
 
996tt said:
when you select an undergraduate institution to attend, the most important thing is to find the best school that you can do well at. if you barely get into a highly competitive school, and you constantly score in the bottom of your class because of the competition, you are not doing yourself a favor. the wiser thing to do is to find a somewhat less competitive school, where you can test on a consistent basis at the top of your class. the key is to find the best college that allows you to get the highest gpa. you are better off getting a 3.6 at rutgers than a 2.8 at penn. or a 3.55 at u of maryland than a 2.7 at princeton. by doing poorly at a highly competitive school, you have shown your dental school that you don't do well when things get tough-not what they want to see. they would rather see you show them success. having said that, i do wish you luck in being accepted. if not, attending grad school, and raising your science gpa might help your chances of admission.


hey rutgers may not be ivy league, but it's definitely competitive and pulling out a 3.6 there is not possible with the little effort put into a 2.8 at penn.
 
There is a thing called grade inflation too. The average gpa at a place like stanford isn't around a 3.7 because everyone there is so much smarter. And the average gpa at swarthmore isn't a whole point lower because the students there are that much stupider. Actually, entering stats are similar -- they're just different schools.

So that means that two students from two different schools with the same GPA will be treated differently -- the 3.7 from stanford is an average student and the 3.7 from swarthmore is at the top of her class.

Adcoms know this and they also know how other students from cornell have done in d-school in the past. The fact that it's an ivy does not, in itself mean the education was better or the classes more difficult. It's not all a numbers game.

Mack
 
996tt said:
when you select an undergraduate institution to attend, the most important thing is to find the best school that you can do well at. if you barely get into a highly competitive school, and you constantly score in the bottom of your class because of the competition, you are not doing yourself a favor. the wiser thing to do is to find a somewhat less competitive school, where you can test on a consistent basis at the top of your class. the key is to find the best college that allows you to get the highest gpa. you are better off getting a 3.6 at rutgers than a 2.8 at penn. or a 3.55 at u of maryland than a 2.7 at princeton. by doing poorly at a highly competitive school, you have shown your dental school that you don't do well when things get tough-not what they want to see. they would rather see you show them success. having said that, i do wish you luck in being accepted. if not, attending grad school, and raising your science gpa might help your chances of admission.

I am not sure if you went to Rutgers or not, but their science classes are freakin impossible to get A's in and there was this prinston student who was taking summer classes at RU, and he actually thought our science exams were harder than theirs. so at the end I think it depends on the student not the school.
 
arash said:
I am not sure if you went to Rutgers or not, but their science classes are freakin impossible to get A's in and there was this prinston student who was taking summer classes at RU, and he actually thought our science exams were harder than theirs. so at the end I think it depends on the student not the school.

arash-firstly, it's princeton, not prinston. and yes, i am an honors graduate of rutgers college and was a bio major with a 3.9 gpa. i also graduated medical school, so i know what i am talking about when i speak of rutgers. the science classes are not impossible to get a's in-you must work hard and apply yourself. it is certainly competitive at rutgers, but doable. let me also tell you-it is tougher at princeton and that is my point-it is easier to do well at a good university like rutgers than at a most competitive environment like princeton.
 
i agree! i took classes at rutgers last summer and i did well only due to the amount of effort i put in.
well said 996tt


996tt said:
arash-firstly, it's princeton, not prinston. and yes, i am an honors graduate of rutgers college and was a bio major with a 3.9 gpa. i also graduated medical school, so i know what i am talking about when i speak of rutgers. the science classes are not impossible to get a's in-you must work hard and apply yourself. it is certainly competitive at rutgers, but doable. let me also tell you-it is tougher at princeton and that is my point-it is easier to do well at a good university like rutgers than at a most competitive environment like princeton.
 
996tt said:
arash-firstly, it's princeton, not prinston. and yes, i am an honors graduate of rutgers college and was a bio major with a 3.9 gpa. i also graduated medical school, so i know what i am talking about when i speak of rutgers. the science classes are not impossible to get a's in-you must work hard and apply yourself. it is certainly competitive at rutgers, but doable. let me also tell you-it is tougher at princeton and that is my point-it is easier to do well at a good university like rutgers than at a most competitive environment like princeton.

Oh I am sorry that my spelling sucks but my point is that if you can get an A in a class like Immunology at Rutgers, you can get an A at "Princeton" as well.
 
arash said:
Oh I am sorry that my spelling sucks but my point is that if you can get an A in a class like Immunology at Rutgers, you can get an A at "Princeton" as well.

not always arash. whether you want to admit it or nor, the people at princeton, on the average, have higher sat's and high school ranks than the people at rutgers. the students who you have to compete against in princeton are more likely to beat you on the curve also. i am not saying that premed/dent at rutgers isn't tough, and that your a in immunology wasn't hard fought-i am just saying that on the average, it is tougher to excell at princeton than rutgers.
 
maybe so in the humanities/arts, but not so much in the natural life sciences. i don't think princeton's any more challenging there.
 
i suggest only people who go to certain schools can comment on those schools. not because they read about it. not because they have super pride about their own school and are haters to all else. not because their friend's friend's dogsitter's pimp said so. but because they have first-hand experience. otherwise there is no credibility in their statements and it fuels random rumors. but it is true nyu purposefully flunks d1's out of their dental school. oh and masterbation makes u blind.
 
i am talking from first-hand experience.

and while mastUrbation may cause blindness, it prevents prostate cancer too.
 
mlle said:
i am talking from first-hand experience.

and while mastUrbation may cause blindness, it prevents prostate cancer too.

:laugh: Good one.
 
mlle said:
maybe so in the humanities/arts, but not so much in the natural life sciences. i don't think princeton's any more challenging there.


Good point.
 
Yenta225 said:
im not blaming it on the school. I probably should have done things differently , like taken my prereqs at a state school like
many of my classmates did.They said it was alot easier, and now that I am taking grad classes at a state school, I completelly agree. I can get an A on an exam with minimal effort, while at cornell getting a B after studying alot was difficult with the curve. All of you that went to colleges that were tough with grading can agree with me. Unfortunatly, this is all a numbers game, and there is nothing you can do about it.


I completely agree w/you, when we get accepted to competitive schools, it's a double edged sword. You work twice as hard and don't always get that A, so I can empathize. Sadly, this is a numbers game. Someone who went to a state school for their pre reqs, might have a higher gpa than you, and hence have a better chance at dental school. You mentioned that you're taking grad classes, that ought to help your gpa. I'd suggest calling and checking w/NYU periodically, just so they have your name in their minds...who knows it might do the trick. Tell them how committed you are to getting in, etc.
 
Mysteree said:
I completely agree w/you, when we get accepted to competitive schools, it's a double edged sword. You work twice as hard and don't always get that A, so I can empathize. Sadly, this is a numbers game. Someone who went to a state school for their pre reqs, might have a higher gpa than you, and hence have a better chance at dental school. You mentioned that you're taking grad classes, that ought to help your gpa. I'd suggest calling and checking w/NYU periodically, just so they have your name in their minds...who knows it might do the trick. Tell them how committed you are to getting in, etc.


I disagree, in general grad classes are easier than undergrad classes at state schools. This explains alot of 4.0 post-grad GPAs. so if you wanna compare 2 schools, you should compare grad vs. grad, and undergrad vs. undergrad. Personally i think competitive schools are harder when it comes to grad schools, but for undergrad, specially science classes they are about the same as state schools. Again its my opinion.
 
arash said:
I disagree, in general grad classes are easier than undergrad classes at state schools. This explains alot of 4.0 post-grad GPAs. so if you wanna compare 2 schools, you should compare grad vs. grad, and undergrad vs. undergrad. Personally i think competitive schools are harder when it comes to grad schools, but for undergrad, specially science classes they are about the same as state schools. Again its my opinion.

Well, that's your right. Grad classes could be easier because as you say, they simply are, or perhaps they feel that way because you've been exposed to the basic sciences, upon which they are based. Granted, post bacc GPAs tend to be higher, but couldn't it be due to the fact that these individuals have decided to get their act in order, and are now more determined than say, when they were undergrads? We can't make sweeping generalizations in either case. To clarify my previous comment, I was not comparing grad to undergrad. I was comparing competitive undergrad schools to others that are perhaps less competitive. I'm inclined to agree, that it's harder to get into a graduate program at a competitive school. However, I disagree re: science classes being the same across the board. As you said, this is also just my opinion 🙂
 
Yenta,

Not to sound like a dick, but I was just wondering what state school you go to now. Because I go to a state school, Stony Brook to be exact, and do t feel the classes are any easier than those from any other institution. While resputation might not be as great, didactic courseload is just as competative.
 
arash said:
I am not sure if you went to Rutgers or not, but their science classes are freakin impossible to get A's in and there was this prinston student who was taking summer classes at RU, and he actually thought our science exams were harder than theirs. so at the end I think it depends on the student not the school.

Arash with those stats why aren't you in. When did you apply?
 
teefRcool said:
Arash with those stats why aren't you in. When did you apply?

Late november, I was 😴
 
Far and away, I think this whole process is a numbers game. Yeah, you might be coming from Harvard with a 3.0 and a whole explanation of how hard it was to GET that 3.0, but you better believe that the kid from your state school(the SUNY's, in my case) with a 3.6 is going to get more attention than you. Again, this isnt ALWAYS the case, and extenuating circumstances dont count, but its dumb stupid to say that a 4.0 at a non-ivy is worthless.
 
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