OCPM merger makes me sad -

[Shannon44]

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I hear externs, residents, fellow colleagues talk about the OCPM merger lately. Having gone there almost 30 years ago it breaks my heart along with other guys of my era and before. I wish all you young guys the best with that and hope it works out.

Podiatry school was part of Cleveland for almost 100 years. We were always in the heart of downtown everything medical, Case, Univ hosp, Cleveland Clinic, etc... Even then we were never or rarely aknowledged by the big boys. We were at best, the red headed step child or secret love child around there. We really didnt have much respect there despite always being filled with pr of how integral we were. Ok, sure.

We all had a dream though which we were subtly told and whole heartedly believed that one day the school would go big time. Part of the ClINIC, part of Case, the Univer Hospitals, heck, even OSU.

I dont look at this move in a positive light nor do most of my bros. It's like finally getting that big coaching job you have been working toward, in LITTLE LEAGUE! I only lived in Cleveland 4 years and practice light years away from there but I know enough that affiliating with something like Kent that is little more than a glorified Community College on the map because of the Vietnam tragedy is like marrying down.

Sorry, when we were in school dudes had degrees from Michigan, Mich State, OSU, Notre Dame, Boston, Nebraska, Florida, USC, Cal., etc... Who on earth wants to go to KSU after that? Maybe admission critera has changed?

Anyway, that is the deal. Older guys dreamed of marrying up into the Case, Clvnd Clinic, Univ Hosp thing and not going to KSU, sorry, it was always a bit of a joke years ago academic wise.

We busted our a*ses for you guys, knocked down the hospital doors, got you priv, went through h*ll you never imagined and for what, KSU? Again, sorry but it is like taking a fat girl to the prom. Young bros, I wish you all the best but it makes all lot of dudes sad. Not really trying to start a fight, just my opinion.

John Doe, DPM

 

[jellybean2020]

Well..if you're looking at it through the lens of prestige, sure they could have partnered with a bigger name institution. But isn't it also true that where you do your residency matters more? There's nothing to stop a Kent State podiatry school graduate from matching at a top prestigious residency, wouldn't you agree?

 

[Shannon44]

Well..if you're looking at it through the lens of prestige, sure they could have partnered with a bigger name institution. But isn't it also true that where you do your residency matters more? There's nothing to stop a Kent State podiatry school graduate from matching at a top prestigious residency, wouldn't you agree?

Unfortunately Dr. Jellybean, you will find that "prestige" will play a far greater role in the real world than it should. You will all do fine and I hope there are perks. The point of the story was simply that of an aging Pod who wanted better for his own.

 

[golfandmedicine]

The school wont be changing location, it will still be where it currently is. I am under the impression that the merger was to allow students to have the opportunity to get a masters while completing the DPM, and to give students the chance to engage in Kent State research projects. I also think it may have been an attempt to provide change and create a new view of the school. OCPM has some of the worst entrance stats according to the recent aacpm publication (which states one student got in with a 15 on the MCAT).http://www.aacpm.org/html/careerzone/pdfs/AACPM CIB-2013 Entering Class.pdf

With that said, thank you for your part in advancing the career, I am applying to schools this August and I am very happy to be entering into this field. The Kent State merger does not appeal to me personally. I have never heard of the University and I surely am not interested in a masters in business admin from a school that is not nationally known. Case Western would have been an awesome merger and would have been very attractive to me as a prospective student.

 

[RockFoot]

Prestige... this is podiatry we are talking about not business or Law. Look at the other pod schools... with the exception of Temple, none of them are very...'prestigious' to the uninformed. Scholl? Inserts you can buy at walmart... DMU? unless you are from Iowa or intimately involved in osteopathic medicine it means nothing...Barry? Its fairly sneered at on these boards, I can't say how a lay person would view it. Midwestern? Its a school called Midwesern and its located in AZ, already strange, while those of us in podiatry have come to learn that indeed they are a very powerful program, they are still so new. This all applies to every program, when OCPM was OCPM, no one, I mean no one except a podiatrist even knew what that meant, at least with KSUCPM they have the massacre in 1970 to call upon to at least know its not a correspondence school or foreign podiatry school.

 

[gail]

I hear externs, residents, fellow colleagues talk about the OCPM merger lately. Having gone there almost 30 years ago it breaks my heart along with other guys of my era and before. I wish all you young guys the best with that and hope it works out.

Podiatry school was part of Cleveland for almost 100 years. We were always in the heart of downtown everything medical, Case, Univ hosp, Cleveland Clinic, etc... Even then we were never or rarely aknowledged by the big boys. We were at best, the red headed step child or secret love child around there. We really didnt have much respect there despite always being filled with pr of how integral we were. Ok, sure.

We all had a dream though which we were subtly told and whole heartedly believed that one day the school would go big time. Part of the ClINIC, part of Case, the Univer Hospitals, heck, even OSU.

I dont look at this move in a positive light nor do most of my bros. It's like finally getting that big coaching job you have been working toward, in LITTLE LEAGUE! I only lived in Cleveland 4 years and practice light years away from there but I know enough that affiliating with something like Kent that is little more than a glorified Community College on the map because of the Vietnam tragedy is like marrying down.

Sorry, when we were in school dudes had degrees from Michigan, Mich State, OSU, Notre Dame, Boston, Nebraska, Florida, USC, Cal., etc... Who on earth wants to go to KSU after that? Maybe admission critera has changed?

Anyway, that is the deal. Older guys dreamed of marrying up into the Case, Clvnd Clinic, Univ Hosp thing and not going to KSU, sorry, it was always a bit of a joke years ago academic wise.

We busted our a*ses for you guys, knocked down the hospital doors, got you priv, went through h*ll you never imagined and for what, KSU? Again, sorry but it is like taking a fat girl to the prom. Young bros, I wish you all the best but it makes all lot of dudes sad. Not really trying to start a fight, just my opinion.

John Doe, DPM

Thank goodness you podiatry people are leaving the University Circle area. You stuck out like plantar's warts at the CWRU Med|Dent library where you never belonged. Good riddance.

 

[Traum]

It is a bit disconcerting that with Case Western and other well-known institutions in the area for many, many years, that OCPM decided to merge with an much lesser known school with no allopathic program-and a jaded past from the 70s. Same goes for NYCPM,--Cornell, Columbia, Yeshia, Mt. Sinai, etc... and still no amalgamation after all these years. Cornell University School of Podiatric Medicine--that would be awesome. But, with many low caliber students, little research, and "professors", who should not be teaching, poor business decisions has left little for podiatric training schools to do other than link up with little known places in Mayberry. Yes, Temple is affiliated, but classes in yrs I and II are still segregated, and on different campuses. Not parity.

If one is striving for parity, then one must completely amalgamate with allopathic programs, not lower tier semi-rural schools with no existing medical school. Not similar toos, or just likes--but exactly as. Start with that, then LCME, USMLE, ABSITE, ACGME, and ABMS.

 

[Ferocity]

Thank goodness you podiatry people are leaving the University Circle area. You stuck out like plantar's warts at the CWRU Med|Dent library where you never belonged. Good riddance.

Why?

 

[hematosis]

Unfortunately Dr. Jellybean, you will find that "prestige" will play a far greater role in the real world than it should. You will all do fine and I hope there are perks. The point of the story was simply that of an aging Pod who wanted better for his own.

I'll respectfully disagree here. Caribbean physicians that graduate from unaccredited foreign schools are looked at no differently than Harvard graduates in my hospital. It's not a matter of how prestigious your school is but rather how competent YOU are as a clinician that gets you farther in the real world. Nobody cares if you graduated from Harvard if you dont know the main differential diagnosis for syncope.

 

[gail]

It is a bit disconcerting that with Case Western and other well-known institutions in the area for many, many years, that OCPM decided to merge with an much lesser known school with no allopathic program-and a jaded past from the 70s. Same goes for NYCPM,--Cornell, Columbia, Yeshia, Mt. Sinai, etc... and still no amalgamation after all these years. Cornell University School of Podiatric Medicine--that would be awesome. But, with many low caliber students, little research, and "professors", who should not be teaching, poor business decisions has left little for podiatric training schools to do other than link up with little known places in Mayberry. Yes, Temple is affiliated, but classes in yrs I and II are still segregated, and on different campuses. Not parity.

If one is striving for parity, then one must completely amalgamate with allopathic programs, not lower tier semi-rural schools with no existing medical school. Not similar toos, or just likes--but exactly as. Start with that, then LCME, USMLE, ABSITE, ACGME, and ABMS.

Your statement was well phrased. Hence my answer to that repugnant (an angry owl?) podiatry student's question as to why I am pleased to see that the podiatry 'college' and their trade school level students leaving the University Circle area. As a graduate of CWRU med school my first hand experience with the podiatry students was underwhelming. They were not part of our University, a private school with a population of very bright and talented students and faculty. Podiatry is not part of, or on par with medicine, and the poor quality students did not belong on our medical campus. The consensus was, and remains that podiatry students are of a lower academic caliber, disruptive, crude, and poorly bred. There may be a small place for podiatry in ancillary care, but not within the ranks of physicians. Some of you may be mature enough to grasp this reality, certainly the fact that the school and its students are leaving the area should reflect this. It is unlikely that there will ever be a Cornell college of medicine. You people are remarkably unrealistic. Please do not private message me.

 

[Ferocity]

Your statement was well phrased. Hence my answer to that repugnant (an angry owl?) podiatry student's question as to why I am pleased to see that the podiatry 'college' and their trade school level students leaving the University Circle area. As a graduate of CWRU med school my first hand experience with the podiatry students was underwhelming. They were not part of our University, a private school with a population of very bright and talented students and faculty. Podiatry is not part of, or on par with medicine, and the poor quality students did not belong on our medical campus. The consensus was, and remains that podiatry students are of a lower academic caliber, disruptive, crude, and poorly bred. There may be a small place for podiatry in ancillary care, but not within the ranks of physicians. Some of you may be mature enough to grasp this reality, certainly the fact that the school and its students are leaving the area should reflect this. It is unlikely that there will ever be a Cornell college of medicine. You people are remarkably unrealistic. Please do not private message me.

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Troll harder.

 

[jellybean2020]

Join Date: Jul 2012

Gee I wonder what the chances are that this is a formerly banned disgruntled poster? 🙄 It's really sad that some people have nothing better to do with their lives.

 

[Shannon44]

Your statement was well phrased. Hence my answer to that repugnant (an angry owl?) podiatry student's question as to why I am pleased to see that the podiatry 'college' and their trade school level students leaving the University Circle area. As a graduate of CWRU med school my first hand experience with the podiatry students was underwhelming. They were not part of our University, a private school with a population of very bright and talented students and faculty. Podiatry is not part of, or on par with medicine, and the poor quality students did not belong on our medical campus. The consensus was, and remains that podiatry students are of a lower academic caliber, disruptive, crude, and poorly bred. There may be a small place for podiatry in ancillary care, but not within the ranks of physicians. Some of you may be mature enough to grasp this reality, certainly the fact that the school and its students are leaving the area should reflect this. It is unlikely that there will ever be a Cornell college of medicine. You people are remarkably unrealistic. Please do not private message me.

There is only one thing I can conclude from your post and that is some Podiatry student or more than one used you and abused you and you are still singing the blues. Maybe you should leave our board and go to match.com or some lonely hearts dating site or maybe just leave -

 

[gail]

There is only one thing I can conclude from your post and that is some Podiatry student or more than one used you and abused you and you are still singing the blues. Maybe you should leave our board and go to match.com or some lonely hearts dating site or maybe just leave -

What an illuminated suggestion precisely what I expected from the physician impersonators who found stealing books, smoking pot, and vandalizing the University. I was on one of many committees formed to rid the campus of the likes of your kind. Finally the podiatry trade school is going away. Do you people still introduce yourselves as 'doctor' like the chiropractors?

 

[jellybean2020]

There are a couple of trolls who keep making new accounts to antagonize people. Pretty much if you ever see a "brand new poster" who's saying absolutely ridiculous things, you're probably being trolled. This guy is pretty amateurish. He's making it so obvious it's not even funny.

 

[SuperFeisty]

What an illuminated suggestion precisely what I expected from the physician impersonators who found stealing books, smoking pot, and vandalizing the University. I was on one of many committees formed to rid the campus of the likes of your kind. Finally the podiatry trade school is going away. Do you people still introduce yourselves as 'doctor' like the chiropractors?

U sure you've been to med school? Med students are some of the rowdiest people I've ever been around!

 

[tenaciousplus]

There are a couple of trolls who keep making new accounts to antagonize people. Pretty much if you ever see a "brand new poster" who's saying absolutely ridiculous things, you're probably being trolled.

x

 

[jellybean2020]

Snotty, trenchant, diletante.

I'm pretty sure that was an insult, but I'm too lazy to look up the definition.

 

[RockFoot]

I do like the part about being poorly bred, it almost comes as almost satirical elitism.😍

 

[jellybean2020]

Tenaciousplus I see from your post history that you're deleting every single one of your posts you ever made. Worried bout something?