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Ok since nobody has made one yet I figured I'd start it since scores should be posted in less than 5 min! Good luck everyone!!
Did you just convert std dev and mean to percentiles?IM is definitely still within your reach. The average for IM was 222 which isnt a whole heck of a lot away from your score. In terms of percentiles: prolly close to 40th percentile
10th percentile- 194
20th percentile- 203
30th percentile- 210
40th percentile- 216
50th percentile- 222
60th percentile- 227
65th percentile- 230
70th percentile- 233
75th percentile -237
80th percentile- 240
84th percentile- 244
88th percentile- 247
90th percentile- 250
93rd percentile- 254
95th percentile- 258
96th percentile- 260
97th percentile- 263
98th percentile- 267
98.7 percentile- 271
99th percentile- 273
Did you just convert std dev and mean to percentiles?
Did you just convert std dev and mean to percentiles?
I used the normal Gaussian distribution and the mean/Std to figure out all of those percentiles. I would bet the scores are a normal distribution.
They're actually not, that was the consensus last year. They're close, but not really. Take a look at Charting Outcomes in a big specialty like Internal Medicine. The curve drops off precipitously when you get to like 240.
Then look at something like Derm which is even more skewed to the right.
Even there you see that scores in fact do have a bit of drop off as they get higher.
congrats.. did you just keep trying to open oasis?
I do agree with you that expressing your disappointment on a board may not be the best thing, but I give everyone a day of stupidity after they get their score because most people aren't in the proper state of mind regardless of whether it is a good or bad score.I side with LadyWolverine on this one. Personal goals are one thing, but if you achieve a score that is leagues above the national average, a score that assures you numerous interviews at even the most competitive residency programs in the country, then it doesn't make sense to lament that score on a public board where countless people performed at or below your "disappointment". it's just gratuitous blah. sure, i'm sad that i didn't get a handjob from Natalie Portman today, maybe even a little disappointed, but you don't see me on NataliePortman.com complaining about it, do you (actually I may have done this, but that's beside the point)? wait, what was the point of this? oh yeah, don't complain about a 250! yes, there is a rule. I just made it up. you're not allowed to complain about a 250. there. now go forth and don't break the rules. oh, and don't go swimming until 30 minutes after you've eaten!
I am not saying it is not true, just a little pessimistic all things considered.first of all - everybody was checking their scores and posting them at around midnight yesterday, so for 2 posts of the same score to appear almost simultaneously is not unheard of.
secondly, i don't think that being a 1000+ poster doesn't make anyone more reliable and trustworthy than a 4-poster. A pathologic lier is a pathologic lier no matter what.
My first post was my score even though I was reading the Step 1 forum on SDN throughout my prep. I never posted because (1) I knew i would spend more time posting and checking for responses, and less time preparing (2) I knew that I had nothing noteworthy to contribute since I hadn't taken the damn thing. And then when I got my score the first thing I did was post it, so that I could legitimize any advice I give.
So give the 271 guys a break - if anything, comments like this deter them from posting their experience and advice, which will benefit many SDNers.
They're actually not, that was the consensus last year. They're close, but not really.
Even there you see that scores in fact do have a bit of drop off as they get higher.
I do agree with you that expressing your disappointment on a board may not be the best thing, but I give everyone a day of stupidity after they get their score because most people aren't in the proper state of mind regardless of whether it is a good or bad score.
Seriously. I don't see anyone telling Tiger Woods to get a life when he's mad at himself for missing an eagle shot. Or yelling at a track athlete for losing a ncaa race even if he's still faster than 99.99% of people in the world. Some people compete against themselves to achieve their personal best. If you fall short of your best, it's understandable to feel disappointed, especially when you put in a ridiculous number of hours. Some people get pissed when they lose a pickup basketball game. Really... it's quite okay. If you're feelings get hurt over this kind of stuff, you probably shouldn't read this thread... this is SDN and you really ought to know better.
244/99
I felt the new format disproportionately affected me - I was finishing my UW blocks with about 1-2 min left each and I needed about 3 minutes more to finish/be satisfied with my answers to each block on the real test...
Thanks for understanding tfom -
people i am not a psycho thinking 250 isn't great. Its a damn good score. but look, I got a 32 on MCAT and that was I believe 87th percentile. not a 37 which was 95th or something -- see the difference?
250 is good. its 90th but its not 260.
again, not being obnoxious, but as i mentioned before, no matter how much work I put in, my lack of quick comprehension from a paragraph written on any subject will always make me underachieve - for example the long patient cases. Try to understand that. Infact, I knew that would be the limiting factor and it was on the exam day. I didn't lie about my NBMEs but honestly, all of them had short stems nothing like my exam with multilple lab values etc. Step 1 is becoming more of a comprehension - as in reading a paragraph and then narrowing down diagnoses. I'll hopefully become good at this.
Can you explain what you mean by "new format"? Was the UW interface very different from the real thing?
wow, you really studied FIFTEEN hours a day? (except Fridays)........Total study time: 6 weeks, 9am to 12am every day except Fridays it was 9 to 4pm.............
As Doctors we are supposed to be very good in reading comprehension (research studies, complicated Hx on charts whatever) and are constantly time limited. All i am emphasizing is that even though what Ivy83 says is true, that you can bust your ass and study for this test, I really believe that a 260+ score requires superior test taking skills + reading speed + a general reading comprehension etc <-- I do not possess great reading comprehension (I had a verbal score of 9) and am a very slow reader. Reading comprehension + knowledge base (your M1, M2 years) + decent speed reading = 260+
I am not an IMG, but am an international Student studying in the US. I'd imagine that many IMGs/FMGs get excellent board scores, but I bet that almost all the high 260's and 270's are the US graduates --- why? think about it.
I got a verbal score of 8 bud (granted I did well on the other sections) Step 1 doesnt take exceptional reading comprehension but rather exposure to a large number of questions and excellent pattern recognition. All of these vignettes follow a pattern leading you to the Dx. You know you're getting the material down when you read the stems and know the answer before you even look at the answers. 2250 (QBank) + 800 (4 NBMEs) + 150 (test ctr) + 200 (BRS ?'s) = 3500 practice questions in 6 weeks on top of 50 flash cards before bed each night. After that, if you dont feel like a well oiled machine going into the test then you may never be prepared. This is what it takes
The question is does Tiger sit down at a table with a bunch of people who also missed that shot and had scores higher than his and complain about his own performance?
what does the two digit score mean?
I am sure someone answered this, but what does the two digit score mean?
how many babies you are going to have.
I don't believe that the majority people come here to brag about their scores to make themselves feel good. Most of us (myself included) post scores and study strategies because we 1) are excited that this phase of our training (suffering) is over, and we want to share our excitement, and 2) want to leave behind some information that, hopefully, the next generation of Step 1 takers will find useful. I know that I, for one, benefitted immensely from reading about the study strategies of past test-takers.
how many babies you are going to have.
Thanks for understanding tfom -
people i am not a psycho thinking 250 isn't great. Its a damn good score. but look, I got a 32 on MCAT and that was I believe 87th percentile. not a 37 which was 95th or something -- see the difference?
248/99 JESUS CHRIST!!
I guess the hard work paid off!
Happy to represent Ohio University College of Osteopathic Medicine:
USMLE- 246/99
COMLEX- 729/98
COMLEX was a bit more difficult than USMLE, and scores showed that slightly. Very pleased with scores. Now I can be an ungual plastic surgeron like I dreamed of when I was 35 wks gestation.
Congratulations everyone.
OUCOM 2010
Thank you for that very informative and relevant post. I feel that your contribution to this thread will really help....is Lord.
USMLE: 232/97
COMLEX: 649/92
I'm not sure what to make of this. It seems I did much better on COMLEX, 93rd percentile vs. 67th percentile for the USMLE, if I'm doing my math correctly. I'm having a hard time believing that the tests were that dissimilar in difficulty, or that the disparity between the test taker pools was that large.
Actually if you calculate your COMLEX "percentile" it's higher than your USMLE "percentile." So in reality you did better on the COMLEX!
Don't be fooled by the 2-digit score.
Congrats on the scores.
wow, so scores >265 are actually more like 99 percentile? thanks for your table!
Thank you for your comment, and for the congrats!
However, percentile does not reflect how well you did against the test itself. Percentile is how well you did against fellow test-takers; objective performance against the exam is different.
As detailed by both NBME and NBOME, the two-digit score, while not a percent (nor a percentile) is a number derived as a measure of one's objective performance against the exam itself. This is the number used by some institutions to see if objectively (again, against each test respectively), a candidate performs satisfactorily based on the standards of the exam.
On my exams, I did not do as well based on the COMLEX standard as I did against the USMLE standard, achieving 98 vs. 99, respectively. I merely mentioned this point above because to me the COMLEX was more challenging than the USMLE.
Minor point about scores, I know, but perhaps it's good to be clarified vis a vis the many questions people have posted on SDN regarding two-digit scores.
(Of course, I don't mean to deny that it's nice to have a higher percentile for residency application purposes, but I was referring to performance on the tests themselves, and as you mentioned above, directors will often look at your score without investigating percentile. All in all, it's splitting hairs, and I am grateful for both scores.)
I'm getting that too.hey guys. is anyone else getting the "invalid document request" error when trying to open up your score report on the nbme website? i was able to see it earlier, but for the last 24-36 hours, i've been getting the error. any ideas?
hey guys. is anyone else getting the "invalid document request" error when trying to open up your score report on the nbme website? i was able to see it earlier, but for the last 24-36 hours, i've been getting the error. any ideas?