Official 2013-2014 Heme/Onc fellowship application cycle

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New to the forum. still waiting for my first interview! i hope i get one before the month ends. congrats to those who already got interviews. I just want to know what is the average number of programs an IMG should apply? Heme onc is getting so competitive.
 
solidoncgirl said:
New to the forum. still waiting for my first interview! i hope i get one before the month ends. congrats to those who already got interviews. I just want to know what is the average number of programs an IMG should apply? Heme onc is getting so competitive.
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depend on your visa status but generally speaking.. a lot.
 
I guess it depends on the strength of your application. Do you need visa? If you need a visa, there may not be a whole lot of programs that you can apply to begin with anyways.
 
still have a handful of programs that haven't downloaded my applications.. anyone from previous years can tell me if that's normal? and when do most programs send out their rejections/invites? 2-3 weeks after ERAS opened?
 
myfoot said:
I guess it depends on the strength of your application. Do you need visa? If you need a visa, there may not be a whole lot of programs that you can apply to begin with anyways.
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it might be easier to apply with J1 Visa than H1 but then again, there aren't a lot of programs.. you almost have to be a superstar in your own right or at least have some connections from your own program.
 
I would just chill, some programs review early and some don't. If your app is strong you will get em.
 
Alemtuzumab said:
The questions are really what you would expect: they want to get a sense of why you want to do oncology, what kind of oncologist you want to be and why (academic - lab based vs clinical; or private practice), details of your research and what you have learned from it, some random questions about anything else on your CV. Be honest, know about everything on your application and don't oversell yourself and you will be fine!

Be punctual, dress well, be nice to everyone you meet. Seem interested in the program, think of questions to ask every interviewer. When they run out of things to ask you they will invariably ask what questions you have for them. Ask about their research, why they chose that institution, specifics about the program (but don't ask questions that are answered on the program website, don't ask about the call schedule or vacation). Send a nice thank you email after the interview referring to something specific that you discussed. None of this is rocket science and no one expects you to know anything about oncology.
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Thank you, Alemtuzumab! This is great info!
 
myfoot said:
I don't have stellar USMLE scores (low 200s, all 3 steps). However, I have a year of research in GI + pubs & posters. I also have an NIH research grant for a Hem/Onc project. Stellar LORs, but only 1 Hem/Onc and others from top names in GI. Residency in a uni program.

I want to be in a uni program to do research (not particularly interested in just clinical practice). With my low scores, are there any uni programs that might take a look at my app? Do fellowship programs use a score filter too like residency? Someone once told me that my "USMLE scores will haunt me for as long as I am trying to get into some program". I am trying to compensate for it with my research and pubs, but not sure if that really helps or whether programs just use a USMLE filter on apps?

Any thoughts from people with inside knowledge regarding fellowship app review process?
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With your research background, I think you should be fine.. You're not applying for residency anymore.. USMLE score isn't everything!
 
does race and gender play a big factor on where you might get interview/match? anyone has any statistics on this?
 
myfoot said:
I would just chill, some programs review early and some don't. If your app is strong you will get em.
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part of me want to chill but knowing that there are just too many strong applicants make it very difficult. Then again, it's not something that I can control. Gotta listen to Gutonc!! :laugh:
 
solidoncgirl said:
New to the forum. still waiting for my first interview! i hope i get one before the month ends. congrats to those who already got interviews. I just want to know what is the average number of programs an IMG should apply? Heme onc is getting so competitive.
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I have heard numbers of anywhere from 40-80 between me and the people I know! Having said that really nobody knows. There is nothing to lose (except precious dollars!) by applying to more programs.
 
entanercept said:
Logging in to SDN after ages. Reading these posts, I realized one thing- that there are quite a few people here who act like med students. You guys really need to grow up! One would think that being PGy3 residents, you guys would act more mature.
Stop panicking!and act mature!
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Lol I think everybody has their periods of regression 🙂
 
Logging into SDN for the first time, very excited w the application process!
 
I was waiting and waiting for my last letter to be uploaded, wanted to send all my application at the same time, so I did not apply till now. Finally last letter uploaded late Friday but not released yet.
This thought is bothering me: Is my chance to get interviews already been decreased if I apply early next week?
 
I think 99% of programs haven't looked at the apps yet so I doubt it is a big deal yet. Also minimal point in worrying as it's not going to change anything! Look ahead =)
 
Niviancer said:
I think 99% of programs haven't looked at the apps yet so I doubt it is a big deal yet. Also minimal point in worrying as it's not going to change anything! Look ahead =)
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how did you come up with this number? Moffitt has already sent out invites for interviews.
 
Total random guess! I havent heard of anyone else with interviews anywhere else yet so I figure 99% is accurate haha
 
hemdoc said:
Me too. Moffitt 🙂

Anybody with any details about Moffitt?
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I also got an interview at Moffitt.

I think it seems like a solid program, very research based. They had a great website and it says that they interview up to 35 people for their 8 spots. Is that a pretty typical number for the larger programs to interview Gutonc?

Surprised they reviewed so early and already offered interviews.

I wonder when the other programs will send out interviews. I was counting on finding out in August so it was definitely a surprise to hear back so quickly.
 
myfoot said:
I don't have stellar USMLE scores (low 200s, all 3 steps). However, I have a year of research in GI + pubs & posters. I also have an NIH research grant for a Hem/Onc project. Stellar LORs, but only 1 Hem/Onc and others from top names in GI. Residency in a uni program.

I want to be in a uni program to do research (not particularly interested in just clinical practice). With my low scores, are there any uni programs that might take a look at my app? Do fellowship programs use a score filter too like residency? Someone once told me that my "USMLE scores will haunt me for as long as I am trying to get into some program". I am trying to compensate for it with my research and pubs, but not sure if that really helps or whether programs just use a USMLE filter on apps?

Any thoughts from people with inside knowledge regarding fellowship app review process?
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From the PD that I know, the PD does not count USMLE scores as paramount. According to that PD, LORs and research are most important, so don't count yourself out just because of your USMLE scores. Sure there are programs that probably won't review your application because they will filter but there will be other places that will review your application and if you have other things that make you desirable I think you will do fine. Don't give up hope! 🙂
 
hemeonc1 said:
From the PD that I know, the PD does not count USMLE scores as paramount. According to that PD, LORs and research are most important, so don't count yourself out just because of your USMLE scores. Sure there are programs that probably won't review your application because they will filter but there will be other places that will review your application and if you have other things that make you desirable I think you will do fine. Don't give up hope! 🙂
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Thank you!
 
hemdoc said:
I have heard numbers of anywhere from 40-80 between me and the people I know! Having said that really nobody knows. There is nothing to lose (except precious dollars!) by applying to more programs.
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Thats what I heard up to 80 too. I am an IMG green card holder, so don't need visa. but there are so many competitive candidates but as "gutonc" said nothing I can control. application seems like the only thing i can do.😀
 
hemeonc1 said:
I also got an interview at Moffitt.

I think it seems like a solid program, very research based. They had a great website and it says that they interview up to 35 people for their 8 spots. Is that a pretty typical number for the larger programs to interview Gutonc?

Surprised they reviewed so early and already offered interviews.

I wonder when the other programs will send out interviews. I was counting on finding out in August so it was definitely a surprise to hear back so quickly.
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Moffit is a good and upcoming program (research heavy). I would like to go there but was told by the Moffitt's PD that they did not accept any IMG (even the ones that don't need VISA) for the past ten years. Oh well, I tried but no interview there for me. 🙂 I wonder if any of you invited to Moffit was IMG??
 
Yes, last year I friend of mine who was a FMG got an interview at Moffitt, but didn't match there....
 
qv3755 said:
Moffit is a good and upcoming program (research heavy). I would like to go there but was told by the Moffitt's PD that they did not accept any IMG (even the ones that don't need VISA) for the past ten years. Oh well, I tried but no interview there for me. 🙂 I wonder if any of you invited to Moffit was IMG??
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I am an AMG.

I'm sorry you haven't gotten an invite there yet. Look at it this way, until you get a rejection there is always still hope. Maybe they will send out more? It is still really early. I wouldn't give up hope until there officially isn't any. ;-)
 
hemeonc1 said:
I am an AMG.

I'm sorry you haven't gotten an invite there yet. Look at it this way, until you get a rejection there is always still hope. Maybe they will send out more? It is still really early. I wouldn't give up hope until there officially isn't any. ;-)
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Thanks, buddy! Best of luck to you at your interview. You must be a "superstar" to get an invite there so early.
 
qv3755 said:
Thanks, buddy! Best of luck to you at your interview. You must be a "superstar" to get an invite there so early.
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Thanks man! Appreciate the kind words but definitely don't know about that haha! 😳

Can't wait to see what the season brings!
 
Good luck to all! Exciting time of year! 😉

Let's get the list started!

Official Invite List

Moffitt 7/18
Scott & White 7/21
 
Scott & White reviewing over the weekends? nice!
 
Niviancer said:
Scott & White reviewing over the weekends? nice!
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you got invited for Scott and White, too? They only accept 2 fellows per year there.. and it looks like there're 4 of us in this forum. I wonder how many more they will interview for the 2 spots.
 
No I didnt apply there. Just surprised they gave out invitations during the weekend
 
Congrats to everyone who started getting interviews early! woohoo!
 
Niviancer said:
No I didnt apply there. Just surprised they gave out invitations during the weekend
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Yeah, me too!! I woke up today with an email sent late Sunday. I guess they were busy reviewing applicants over the weekend. I still have about 5 programs that haven't download my applications yet. Should I follow-up with them this Friday if nothing happen b/t now and then?
 
my friend got interview at Scott and white too. congrats to all. The program did send out invite late 11pm Sunday night. don't know why i didn't apply scott and white. but too late now hehe.
 
solidoncgirl said:
my friend got interview at Scott and white too. congrats to all. The program did send out invite late 11pm Sunday night. don't know why i didn't apply scott and white. but too late now hehe.
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it's never too late, SolidOncgirl! You can still apply to S&W
 
qv3755 said:
Yeah, me too!! I woke up today with an email sent late Sunday. I guess they were busy reviewing applicants over the weekend. I still have about 5 programs that haven't download my applications yet. Should I follow-up with them this Friday if nothing happen b/t now and then?
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How many times am I going to have to answer this question "no" for you?
 
gutonc said:
How many times am I going to have to answer this question "no" for you?
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lol. I guess I'll have to accept my faith and think of as a silence rejection.. 😍

Has there ever been (in the history of ERAS) a situation where a complete application was not downloaded at season end?
 
qv3755 said:
it's never too late, SolidOncgirl! You can still apply to S&W
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That's what i think but they have only 2 dates for interviews and i think they are filled up now. I guess i will just wait for other interviews.🙂
 
qv3755 said:
lol. I guess I'll have to accept my faith and think of as a silence rejection.. 😍

Has there ever been (in the history of ERAS) a situation where a complete application was not downloaded at season end?
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There is nothing you can do about it so I would stop driving myself crazy thinking about such things. It's only been a week and many programs in the West and Midwest haven't started downloading yet, including my program which will start downloading & reviewing in August. So, take it easy!
 
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