Official 2015 COMLEX Level 1 Experiences and Scores Thread

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I realized no one made a thread for 2015 so decided to make one. Anyone take the January 6 or 22 test? There's a Feb date coming up soon too. How was it? What did you use to study and would recommend to future test-takers? Anything particularly high-yield? Good luck everyone!
 
I haven't heard about that...What does that mean?

It means every few years they adjust everyones scores so that there is a true average, instead of it constantly getting higher and higher. our professors told us they were going to do it last year, but they waited until our year. we were told that our scores were going to be like 30 points lower than the equivalent % right last year. so someone who got a 600 last year and was in the 75% would this year be at a 570 in the 75%. This is according to our professors who talked about it all the time.
 
I believe that I got the new version of the exam with a lot of management questions and picky pathophys. But I think they equated well for the exam difficulty and other variables.
COMSAE A: 590
COMSAE B: 610
COMSAE C: 619
COMSAE D: 660

COMLEX: > 730 (for anonymity)

Prep: I mostly prepared for the USMLE thinking that if I could handle that, COMLEX should be a cakewalk. I felt a lot more comfortable leaving the center after USMLE than the COMLEX. Scored > 250 on the USMLE. We were told by one of our professors who writes questions for the COMLEX that one of the 8 blocks on the exam consists of experimental questions. I believe it was my 5th block. Most presentations and answer choices were vague. I chalked it up to post-prandial. After that I didn't care to focus too much attention on any one question and stopped marking questions which made me more relaxed. Finished the exam with a bad taste due to block 5. Exam was definitely a lot less straightforward than comsaes. Which means that the curve was less harsh which contributed to the high score. Used Uworld, comquest and combank. Uworld is definitely essential for both USMLE and COMLEX. But I believe comquest was more important conceptually for me than combank. I believe comquest moved down their level 2 qbank and converted the questions into level 1 format. comquest had a lot of next step in management questions. My COMLEX form also had quite a few management questions. So I think comquest was helpful. Combank tend to be a bit picky. But I prolly got 3-5 questions straight out of combank on my real exam. OMM was my weakpoint during school. During the 3 days between my USMLE and COMLEX, I watched the DIT OMM lectures which is basically them reading out Saverese for you. Not sure how helpful that was, but I probably lucked out with mostly easy OMM (had about 25 VS questions).
 
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I really studied primarily for the USMLE and didn't do much of COMBANK. I got a 594 on the COMLEX and a 578 on COMSAE B like 3 days before. I was genuinely surprised because I did much worse on usmle (225). Took the test on june 8th just in case anybody was wondering.
 
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I believe that I got the new version of the exam with a lot of management questions and picky pathophys. But I think they equated well for the exam difficulty and other variables.
COMSAE A: 590
COMSAE B: 610
COMSAE C: 619
COMSAE D: 660

COMLEX: > 730 (for anonymity)

Prep: I mostly prepared for the USMLE thinking that if I could handle that, COMLEX should be a cakewalk. I felt a lot more comfortable leaving the center after USMLE than the COMLEX. Scored > 250 on the USMLE. We were told by one of our professors who writes questions for the COMLEX that one of the 8 blocks on the exam consists of experimental questions. I believe it was my 5th block. Most presentations and answer choices were vague. I chalked it up to post-prandial. After that I didn't care to focus too much attention on any one question and stopped marking questions which made me more relaxed. Finished the exam with a bad taste due to block 5. Exam was definitely a lot less straightforward than comsaes. Which means that the curve was less harsh which contributed to the high score. Used Uworld, comquest and combank. Uworld is definitely essential for both USMLE and COMLEX. But I believe comquest was more important conceptually for me than combank. I believe comquest moved down their level 2 qbank and converted the questions into level 1 format. comquest had a lot of next step in management questions. My COMLEX form also had quite a few management questions. So I think comquest was helpful. Combank tend to be a bit picky. But I prolly got 3-5 questions straight out of combank on my real exam. OMM was my weakpoint during school. During the 3 days between my USMLE and COMLEX, I watched the DIT OMM lectures which is basically them reading out Saverese for you. Not sure how helpful that was, but I probably lucked out with mostly easy OMM (had about 25 VS questions).

Congrats tdot, you sound like a very smart and handsome guy.
 
Congrats to everyone who got scores back! Curious, how far out from your actual comlex was the COMSAE's taken?
 
650's.

Took it June 11.
COMSAE A 566 - 10 wks out
COMSAE B 555 - 7 wks out
COMSAE C 642 - 4 wks out.

Focused entirely on the USMLE. Read Savarese between the tests along with all the COMBANK OMM questions. USMLE was 240's.
 
So it seems a lot of people did wayyy better than me, but I'm proud of my score, so here goes...

COMSAE D (2 weeks out)- 508
COMSAE C (1 day prior)- 498

COMLEX- 558 =]
 
650's.

Took it June 11.
COMSAE A 566 - 10 wks out
COMSAE B 555 - 7 wks out
COMSAE C 642 - 4 wks out.

Focused entirely on the USMLE. Read Savarese between the tests along with all the COMBANK OMM questions. USMLE was 240's.
What up twin?! I got the same scores as you for both comlex and usmle
 
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It means every few years they adjust everyones scores so that there is a true average, instead of it constantly getting higher and higher. our professors told us they were going to do it last year, but they waited until our year. we were told that our scores were going to be like 30 points lower than the equivalent % right last year. so someone who got a 600 last year and was in the 75% would this year be at a 570 in the 75%. This is according to our professors who talked about it all the time.
Not completely sure they did that this year. The average comlex score last year was 500 and according to my score report, the average for this summer exam takers is 520 with a SD of 85. So the scores have been going up.
 
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Not completely sure they did that this year. The average comlex score last year was 500 and according to my score report, the average for this summer exam takers is 520 with a SD of 85. So the scores have been going up.

Not saying this in an "I know and you don't" type of way, but more so people know... I am about 99% sure they did restructure the exam this year. I was told that by a very reliable source on faculty at my school. Also, my score report says that "in recent administrations, the mean score is 520 with an SD of 85", but it doesn't say anything about this summer's average.

Also, on the account home page it says: Percentile rank will be reported for candidates at the completion of the annual testing cycle. A candidate may look up his or her percentile rank in relation to others in the same cohort. This tool is available on the NBOME website
 
Just found this on the website as well, so the percentile averages for this testing cycle haven't been released yet.
 

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I guess only time will tell. I agree that they are changing the exam in that they are trying to make it more clinical (mine felt a lot like the usmle) with every question being a patient presentation and history, different from the comsaes which are mostly 1-2 sentence questions with buzzword presentations. If the prevailing theory is accurate, the average at the end of the testing season should be 500 and not 520.
 
Can anyone who felt they had the holysh*twtfneuro version of the exam and received their score comment on whether it was higher or lower than expected? Seeing some good scores so far but it would help if you guys could also say whether your exam "felt reasonable." Thanks!
 
Can anyone who felt they had the holysh*twtfneuro version of the exam and received their score comment on whether it was higher or lower than expected? Seeing some good scores so far but it would help if you guys could also say whether your exam "felt reasonable." Thanks!

I had a pretty terrible version. Considering how I felt coming out of the exam I am really happy with how i scored (580s). I was actually worrying about passing. However, based on my UWorld score and comquest score I thought it would have been a little higher.
 
I had a pretty terrible version. Considering how I felt coming out of the exam I am really happy with how i scored (580s). I was actually worrying about passing. However, based on my UWorld score and comquest score I thought it would have been a little higher.

What were your scores out of curiosity on Comsaes and Comquest? (if you don't mind sharing) Congrats on the good score!
 
What were your scores out of curiosity on Comsaes and Comquest? (if you don't mind sharing) Congrats on the good score!


Thanks!

Comquest was somewhere in the 80s, Uworld was in the high 70s, my last NBME was in the 230s, and comsaes were all over but averaged about what I scored (a good 100 point difference between the exams though so I am not really convinced they are good metrics) Before the exam I thought i would have scored higher as other people posted they have in the past. What really bothered me about the exam was that I scored really high in areas that I know I am weak in (anatomy). That said I am only looking at matching Osteo IM or EM so hopefully i did not knock myself out of the running just yet.

Good Luck,
 
I had a pretty terrible version. Considering how I felt coming out of the exam I am really happy with how i scored (580s). I was actually worrying about passing. However, based on my UWorld score and comquest score I thought it would have been a little higher.

Thanks for sharing and congrats on what I consider an excellent score. Can I ask how close it was to your COMSAE D score and how long before the test you took it? Thanks!
 
Has anyone failed or know anyone who failed?
I heard a rumor if you fail, your school finds out before you do, so I'm guessing they might tell you before scores are released?

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Thanks for sharing and congrats on what I consider an excellent score. Can I ask how close it was to your COMSAE D score and how long before the test you took it? Thanks!

Thanks! Maybe not great by SDN standards but I am pleased. My school did not provide COMSAE D so I was never able to take it--just A-C.
 
My COMLEX was somewhere within a standard deviation of the mean. My COMLEX was 50-60 points higher than COMSAE Form D taken over a month before the exam, 20-30 points higher than Form B taken a month before the exam, and 20-30 points higher than Form C taken a couple of weeks before the exam.

All in all, not a derm-tier score but I'm glad to have passed and did better than on the practice tests, and better than expected given my preclinical class rank.
Studying consisted of almost two passes through UWorld, several passes through the Lange pharm cards, one pass through SketchyMicro and another two passes through the pictures, a brief pass through Savarese, one pass through Pathoma videos and two through the book, two passes through FA, and some extra COMQUEST OMM questions.
Actual exam had waaaay more repro than expected. Viscerosomatics questions did not match up very well with the chart on Savarese so that threw me off a bit.

Things I'm glad I did: UWorld, Lange Cards
Things I may have done differently: Pushed harder to get another pass through FA and SketchyMicro pictures.
Things I did and should have skipped: Nothing.

COMSAE D 6 weeks out: 732
COMLEX: 753
USMLE: 261
Beast. I just hope you aren't applying to the same specialties as me haha
 
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Took this biatch last week. Just a brief rundown of my thoughts here because overall my experience was identical to what you read in last year's level 1 thread. Lots o' micro, pharm, neuro/anatomy/omm and a surprising amount of the common CV and pulm stuff like asthma and CHF.

To sum it up I walked out of the testing center pretty pissed off because a) I felt like the exam in no way tested my understanding of the first two years of medical school and b) most of the wtf type questions were a straight forward vignette with answer options that were like word games...I felt like I was choosing the least incorrect answer rather than the most correct. It was really weird beyond the level that I saw on COMSAE's.

Now, let me back up a bit and say that I tend to dwell on the few questions I got wrong and forget about the easy ones. I spent the last 2 years thinking I failed every test because all I could think about were the 15 tough questions on the test. Then come to find out that I got the other 85 easy--moderately difficult questions right.

My thoughts by subject:
1. Micro: these were mostly first order name the bug based off most common or other ID characteristics we love like thayer-martin agar, lysed RBCs etc.. When it was dysentery, only one option would be a crampy, bloody diarrhea while the other 4 options were watery diarhea pathogens. If you know your basics and buzzwords, micro is easy points.

2.Neuro/anatomy/omm: I lump these together because sometimes I wasnt' sure what subject the question was. Neuro was tons what artery causing the stroke symptoms. Anatomy/neuro was your standard peripheral nerves innervation etc. OMM seemed straight forward. There were a few odd ball questions but the bulk were exactly what you probably saw on your school's exams.

3. Pharm: I studied the hell out of pharm because I'm a nerd so this is hard for me to judge the difficulty. Either first order class of drug for disease X or MOA for drug Y. The rest were side effx and toxicities. I thought they were easy when I would pick up on the classic side effect or toxicity. If you know these, the questions are as simple as spironolactone is a K-sparing is putting someone at risk for hyperK, for example. If you don't pick up what they're hinting at then it's just a guess and move on.

4. The rest seemed like it was mostly type of pathophysiology questions. In reality most of these were as straight forward regarding starling forces or Like, e.g., a 3 paragraph clinical presentation and history of a patient and then it would ask what is causing symptom X. Then, none of the answer choices would make sense and you would spend 45 seconds decoding them to choose which one in a round-about way would maybe indirectly lead to the symptom X.

One last tip I can think of right now: Most of the questions are very short 2-3 sentences, but when you get the occasional longer pt presentation, don't get lured in to sifting through every word trying to figure it out along the way. Jump to the bottom and look at the actual question. This is a made up example to preserve test confidentiality, but I had several that were of similar style. Example: a 500 word H&P on a burn victim with all of his lab values and comorbidities then the real question at the end was what is the most likely pathogen infecting his burn wounds.

And finally, the reason I say I didn't feel like it reflected my understanding of medicine was because I spent 2 years learning from sources like pathoma, first aid, comlex-style Q banks and NONE of these will prepare you for their crappily-worded answer choices. Now, the bulk of the test was textbook, board-review type of questions, but those wtf questions are so frustrating they'll make you want to build a time machine, go back in time, and burn your AACOMAS app and only apply MD.

/end rant.

We will all pass and be doctors. I just wanted to share my thoughts.

Thank you and godspeed for all those upcoming comlexes!

This post is to provide hope for all those future test takers. I walked out of this thing worrying that I failed it and found out yesterday that I scored >750 (not giving exact score for anonymity).

This was the most difficult exam I have ever taken, but it was definitely scored accordingly. One more note worth mentioning, I did NOT use UWorld to prepare and I am very happy that I didn't do so (If you are taking comlex only, of course). I strictly used USMLERx and COMBANK. Took COMSAE D (700s) but it wasn't worth my time because the real test is nothing like this.

Edit: I bolded the statement above because I spent all of March/April worrying that I wasn't going to be prepared.
 
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So I did a percentile score conversion on the nbome website (using the 2014-2015 scale since that's the latest available) and my score came out to a 34%. What the hell? That's so incredibly disheartening. I have gotten straight B's in all the systems courses with 1 A, but I was consistently above average in my class on all our tests. How could I have done so poorly on this test?

EDIT: and how the hell is 34% a pass?
 
So I did a percentile score conversion on the nbome website (using the 2014-2015 scale since that's the latest available) and my score came out to a 34%. What the hell? That's so incredibly disheartening. I have gotten straight B's in all the systems courses with 1 A, but I was consistently above average in my class on all our tests. How could I have done so poorly on this test?

EDIT: and how the hell is 34% a pass?

You scored in the 34th PERCENTILE, not 34%.
 
And to further clarify, percentile is ranking you respective to other test takers. In other words you scored better than 34% of all exam takers for that time period.

The difference is similar to GPA and class rank. If your cumulative average is 70% (70 PERCENT questions correctly answered on tests), that probably ranks you in the bottom 5% of your class (5th PERCENTILE).
 
Oh, lol well that's still pretty crappy IMO.
Not that bad. You aren't too far off the mean and considering the SD is over 80 points, you are very average. Match that with strong work on rotations and you can still be competitive.

You have to remember that the few people posting big scores on here are doing it for one of 3 reasons, to either brag, to advise others, or to simply make others feel bad. The other thousand students that scored in the 400-500 range probably aren't posting on here because they have better things to do.
 
So I did a percentile score conversion on the nbome website (using the 2014-2015 scale since that's the latest available) and my score came out to a 34%. What the hell? That's so incredibly disheartening. I have gotten straight B's in all the systems courses with 1 A, but I was consistently above average in my class on all our tests. How could I have done so poorly on this test?

EDIT: and how the hell is 34% a pass?
Also, don't forget that they changed the test this year to make it more difficult. You likely will end up higher than 34th percentile.
 
Also, don't forget that they changed the test this year to make it more difficult. You likely will end up higher than 34th percentile.

Is there any reliable source for this more difficult test besides sdn hearsay? I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm really interested in this because I wasn't aware of this going into the test and would have no way of knowing if mine was "more difficult" because, well, I've never taken one before this.
 
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Is there any reliable source for this more difficult test besides sdn hearsay? I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm really interested in this because I wasn't aware of this going into the test and would have no way of knowing if mine was "more difficult" because, well, I've never taken one before this.

FWIW the guy who made COMBANK talked to our school and told us this year was probably going to be a tougher year. Apparently every few years the score average drops and this year was supposed to be the one based on when it had dropped before (so he suggested we take USMLE as well).
 
Is there any reliable source for this more difficult test besides sdn hearsay? I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm really interested in this because I wasn't aware of this going into the test and would have no way of knowing if mine was "more difficult" because, well, I've never taken one before this.
I heard this straight from the dean of my school. Also, if you look at the percentiles throughout the years every few years there is a huge drop the last time was 2011-2012 I believe.
 
FWIW the guy who made COMBANK talked to our school and told us this year was probably going to be a tougher year. Apparently every few years the score average drops and this year was supposed to be the one based on when it had dropped before (so he suggested we take USMLE as well).
I just looked on comlex' website and it says they're readjusting the scores for comlex 1 this year. Since the mean was so high the past few years, one can only assume this is gonna be a downward curve if anything which will result in our year being ****ed royally.
 
Attached are screenshots of my performance reports for comparison. It certainly looks like I did much better on the comlex than the usmle. I don't know how the scores match up to each other, but I did feel better about my performance coming out of the usmle. Usmle was 200, comlex was 491.
DISCLAIMER: As far as I know, it's not illegal to post up these score reports, but please tell me if it is and I'll take them down ASAP.
COMLEX
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USMLE
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So they're readjusting the scores after we get our score or is this done before we get our score?
So they might have initially made adjustments, but if those don't average out as they expect they will change the scores at the end of each exam period. I think last year was the year they did this for the comlex 2... I know a lot of (now first year residents) told me their scores were changed a few weeks later. Most went higher, a few went lower. The one beacon of hope is that this was also a new, supposedly harder exam, so if people end up doing much worse than expected it should be adjusted upwards.
 
So they might have initially made adjustments, but if those don't average out as they expect they will change the scores at the end of each exam period. I think last year was the year they did this for the comlex 2... I know a lot of (now first year residents) told me their scores were changed a few weeks later. Most went higher, a few went lower. The one beacon of hope is that this was also a new, supposedly harder exam, so if people end up doing much worse than expected it should be adjusted upwards.
Well here's hoping it adjusts upward.
 
It seems like enough people complained to the NBOME that they realized they were jerks and rescored the exams. So, if your score lowered from your last comsae then feel free to call up the NBOME and complain about the new scoring system. But probably best to ask your classmates who have also gotten their scores back how they did in comparison to how comsaes predicted their scores (people normally go up ~26 points from their last comsae). And if it seems like a lot of people went down then talk to your student gov't officials about it and have them contact NBOME (that's what they did last year and it worked, so..)
 
And to put my question another way, I was wondering if this is in fact a different exam with more difficult questions and a different style. Or is it just scored differently. These are two different things. If it's a different exam style and difficulty that's a whole new can of worms. Scoring it differently just means they are adjusting the mean back toward 500 which seems reasonable.

Either way, I can't imagine any of us will be damaged by a change unless you are right around a 400. Fingers crossed ya'll!
 
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