USMLE Official 2018 Step 1 Experiences and Scores Thread

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Anybody try to recall questions that they missed/how did it correlate with their final score? I felt awesome after my test recently, but am up to like 12-14 incorrect!

Were these questions that you simply didn't know at the time, and looked them up after the test? Or did you miss them for other reasons? Taking the exam next week, and just looking for some test-taking tips!
 
Were these questions that you simply didn't know at the time, and looked them up after the test? Or did you miss them for other reasons? Taking the exam next week, and just looking for some test-taking tips!
I think I got lucky. There was only 1 q that I had no idea and had to guess on, and like 10 that I had to make educated guesses on. I actually got most/all of those correct. The ones I've been counting that I've missed have been like one totally stupid mistake, one where I got baited into an answer just because it sounded good. Two where I thought it was straightforward, but afterwards realized that there was a more likely/better answer. There was one I thought I was right and looked it up just because I remembered it and noticed it was wrong. Idk sorry for being vague, I don't want to get like too specific. Basically just go with your intuition and don't change your answer unless you realize you interpreted the q wrong at first or are 100% sure in the switch
 
So, I've been told that usually the answers are listed in alphabetical order. However, sometimes they are not, and the test-writers will often put a "bait"/"kneejerk" answer at the top to try to trick you. Has anyone noticed this on the real thing?
 
Do you think it would be useful to do them timed then, or just run through them as a qbank like you did? Would doing a block of one of those a day be helpful?
Edit: just looked at the answer keys I have and its only the answers which is annoying. I'll take a look and see if I can find explanations from 'Sarim'

I just ran through them. I took about 3 hours to do the full 200. There's no score prediction so I didn't want to spend the extra time checking my answers. Most keys are just the answers. You'll have to dig through the forums to find explanations, which are sometimes wrong so you should check a few posts to find consensus. Sarim's key is just answers too but he has posted some explanations, they haven't been compiled as far as I know. Dr. Esha who scored an 800 has a ton of mistakes.

Anybody try to recall questions that they missed/how did it correlate with their final score? I felt awesome after my test recently, but am up to like 12-14 incorrect!

I remember around 10 that were definitely wrong, around 40 I couldn't even look up the answers and 130 that I got right. Correlations are of no value because there's no way to tell which questions are experimental.
 
I just ran through them. I took about 3 hours to do the full 200. There's no score prediction so I didn't want to spend the extra time checking my answers. Most keys are just the answers. You'll have to dig through the forums to find explanations, which are sometimes wrong so you should check a few posts to find consensus. Sarim's key is just answers too but he has posted some explanations, they haven't been compiled as far as I know. Dr. Esha who scored an 800 has a ton of mistakes.



I remember around 10 that were definitely wrong, around 40 I couldn't even look up the answers and 130 that I got right. Correlations are of no value because there's no way to tell which questions are experimental.
What are experimental questions/how do we know this is a thing?
 
What are experimental questions/how do we know this is a thing?

Experimental questions are questions that are not counted toward your USMLE score. These are questions the board is testing, deciding whether the questions are good enough to be added to the pool or if they should be discarded. I believe it's even mentioned somewhere on the NBME website. Further evidence would be the fact that not everybody gets 280 questions on a form, which would mean at least a few of those don't count.
 
I just ran through them. I took about 3 hours to do the full 200. There's no score prediction so I didn't want to spend the extra time checking my answers. Most keys are just the answers. You'll have to dig through the forums to find explanations, which are sometimes wrong so you should check a few posts to find consensus. Sarim's key is just answers too but he has posted some explanations, they haven't been compiled as far as I know. Dr. Esha who scored an 800 has a ton of mistakes.

Is it useful then to just run through them as see what I get right or wrong? Or do I really have to look for the explanations if I get it right?
So - instead of digging too much, I just do a quick search/try to explain it myself and then if I cant find it move on? Like you said, I also don't want this to take up too much of my time.
 
Is it useful then to just run through them as see what I get right or wrong? Or do I really have to look for the explanations if I get it right?
So - instead of digging too much, I just do a quick search/try to explain it myself and then if I cant find it move on? Like you said, I also don't want this to take up too much of my time.

I would suggest running through it and looking up things you got wrong or got right accidentally (without knowing the concept behind it). I wouldn't bother with the ones where you're confident about the reasoning. I looked up options that I couldn't recognise as well to hone my process of elimination. You could always post your questions if you don't find good explanations but almost all of mine were ignored.
 
Hey @sahell, I’m finding your advices very useful so a big thanks for that.
I am also doing offline NBMEs these days (exam is in a week).
Could you please comment on how useful these turned out to be for you? What % of your exam was based on topics/concepts/questions similar to these NBME forms?
 
Guys, I'm in a predicament and could use some help. my situation is the following:
3/5 UWSA1 256 630 80%
3/12 UWSA2 245 580 78%
3/17 NBME15 550 238 88%
3/20 NBME16 550 238 87%
3/28 120@testcenter 83%
3/30 NBME17 520 232 87.5%
4/4 NBME18 480 223 79%
4/5 NBME19 450 217 83.5%

My exam is tomorrow, I'm not sure if I postpone it, or just get it over with seeing as how I don't have anymore NBME to assess my progress. What could be causing this downward trend? am I burned out? fatigued? are the NBMEs just getting harder and more realistic? or is this just to make sure I'm safe for the actual exam, hence they're underestimating my score?
 
Guys, I'm in a predicament and could use some help. my situation is the following:
3/5 UWSA1 256 630 80%
3/12 UWSA2 245 580 78%
3/17 NBME15 550 238 88%
3/20 NBME16 550 238 87%
3/28 120@testcenter 83%
3/30 NBME17 520 232 87.5%
4/4 NBME18 480 223 79%
4/5 NBME19 450 217 83.5%

My exam is tomorrow, I'm not sure if I postpone it, or just get it over with seeing as how I don't have anymore NBME to assess my progress. What could be causing this downward trend? am I burned out? fatigued? are the NBMEs just getting harder and more realistic? or is this just to make sure I'm safe for the actual exam, hence they're underestimating my score?

I'm not one to speak much on this, others can give you more reliable advice but if you're worried about NBME 19, most people have said that it under predicts their score (except one person on this thread I think it over predicted).
 
Alrighty people, Tomorrow is the big day. Honestly, Im more excited by the fact that I can start sleeping as long as I want than by the fact that I get to finally take the test. I wont be sleeping, meaning Im gonna pull an all-nighter, probably watching Grey's Anatomy lol. I have generalized anxiety disorder, and the probability of me falling asleep is the same as the probability of me getting more than 260 on this exam; 0%. I wanna thank ya'll for your help and for giving me anxiety every time I read you're amazing scores lol. I'll tell you how tomorrow goes. P.S. Can you pick an option at the end of the exam to not have the test counted/marked like the mcat? Asking for a "friend"
 
Guys, I'm in a predicament and could use some help. my situation is the following:
3/5 UWSA1 256 630 80%
3/12 UWSA2 245 580 78%
3/17 NBME15 550 238 88%
3/20 NBME16 550 238 87%
3/28 120@testcenter 83%
3/30 NBME17 520 232 87.5%
4/4 NBME18 480 223 79%
4/5 NBME19 450 217 83.5%

My exam is tomorrow, I'm not sure if I postpone it, or just get it over with seeing as how I don't have anymore NBME to assess my progress. What could be causing this downward trend? am I burned out? fatigued? are the NBMEs just getting harder and more realistic? or is this just to make sure I'm safe for the actual exam, hence they're underestimating my score?


What have you been revising between the NBMEs?
I’m no expert to advise in this situation but wanted to say that if you do end up postponing, there’s NBME 13 left. I know it’s the oldest of the bunch. But after having done 13,15,16,17, I didn’t find any difference between their quality. So I would take 13 equal in quality and predictive value on par with the other 3.
Can’t comment on 18 and 19 since haven’t done those. Did you find these 2 super more tricky compared to the others?
 
Could use some guidance:
Have 2.5 weeks left and just finished Uworld First Pass with 69%. My most recent UWSA was last week with 230. Should I just do Uworld and First Aid again? My last NBME was in February with a 205...
 
Could use some guidance:
Have 2.5 weeks left and just finished Uworld First Pass with 69%. My most recent UWSA was last week with 230. Should I just do Uworld and First Aid again? My last NBME was in February with a 205...

When was the UWSA? I would retake another NBME and see where you are now. Perhaps one of the folks who've taken it can attest to this or suggest otherwise. My 2c.
 
Hey everyone! Finally signed back into this account..
I was wondering where I sit currently.

245 on uwsa1 (2 weeks ago)
234 on nbme 16 (1 week ago)
69% average on uw with 20% left (mid 70s to 80s on last 10)

240 a good prediction right now?

Test is in 2.5 weeks. I plan on taking uwsa2, free120, and another 1-2 nbmes.
 
Guys, I'm in a predicament and could use some help. my situation is the following:
3/5 UWSA1 256 630 80%
3/12 UWSA2 245 580 78%
3/17 NBME15 550 238 88%
3/20 NBME16 550 238 87%
3/28 120@testcenter 83%
3/30 NBME17 520 232 87.5%
4/4 NBME18 480 223 79%
4/5 NBME19 450 217 83.5%

My exam is tomorrow, I'm not sure if I postpone it, or just get it over with seeing as how I don't have anymore NBME to assess my progress. What could be causing this downward trend? am I burned out? fatigued? are the NBMEs just getting harder and more realistic? or is this just to make sure I'm safe for the actual exam, hence they're underestimating my score?
I had a 230s on all the NBMEs and 245 on both Uworlds. Nbme 18 and Uworld 2 were both a week before my test. My final score was within 2 points of Uworld. Only walk in if your confident. I didn't let the NBMEs phase me
 
Hey everyone! Finally signed back into this account..
I was wondering where I sit currently.

245 on uwsa1 (2 weeks ago)
234 on nbme 16 (1 week ago)
69% average on uw with 20% left (mid 70s to 80s on last 10)

240 a good prediction right now?

Test is in 2.5 weeks. I plan on taking uwsa2, free120, and another 1-2 nbmes.
If you took the test today, probably in the 230s since Uworld 1 is easy. If you keep improving and studying hard for the next 2.5 weeks then absolutely a 240 is reasonable.
 
I had a 230s on all the NBMEs and 245 on both Uworlds. Nbme 18 and Uworld 2 were both a week before my test. My final score was within 2 points of Uworld. Only walk in if your confident. I didn't let the NBMEs phase me
thanks for the reassurance, did you take your step this cycle or last?
 
I'm not one to speak much on this, others can give you more reliable advice but if you're worried about NBME 19, most people have said that it under predicts their score (except one person on this thread I think it over predicted).
I was hoping to break 250, looks like I'll just bite the bullet and take what I can get before I regress even further down. As for what I've been revising, it's been mostly hitting my weaknesses according to what the practice tests tell me.

What have you been revising between the NBMEs?
I’m no expert to advise in this situation but wanted to say that if you do end up postponing, there’s NBME 13 left. I know it’s the oldest of the bunch. But after having done 13,15,16,17, I didn’t find any difference between their quality. So I would take 13 equal in quality and predictive value on par with the other 3.
Can’t comment on 18 and 19 since haven’t done those. Did you find these 2 super more tricky compared to the others?
I felt like 18 and 19 were easier, but I made more mistakes, I guess that goes to show how accurate our gut feelings are. I took 13 at the beginning of dedicated and got 200, so it served its purpose as a baseline.
 
I was hoping to break 250, looks like I'll just bite the bullet and take what I can get before I regress even further down. As for what I've been revising, it's been mostly hitting my weaknesses according to what the practice tests tell me.


I felt like 18 and 19 were easier, but I made more mistakes, I guess that goes to show how accurate our gut feelings are. I took 13 at the beginning of dedicated and got 200, so it served its purpose as a baseline.
I got 248 on 19 and 250 on 18. I got 260 on the real thing. I was on a downward trend at the end of my dedicated as well. I can promise you that you didn’t forget everything you have studied. Take a deep breath. In retrospect I think I was just burnt out and getting lazy toward the end and just rushing through to get a score. You are probably just doing the same thing. You won’t do this on test day. Get well rested and ready to perform on exam day.
 
I was hoping to break 250, looks like I'll just bite the bullet and take what I can get before I regress even further down. As for what I've been revising, it's been mostly hitting my weaknesses according to what the practice tests tell me.


I felt like 18 and 19 were easier, but I made more mistakes, I guess that goes to show how accurate our gut feelings are. I took 13 at the beginning of dedicated and got 200, so it served its purpose as a baseline.

In that case, Good luck for tomorrow!
Review your weak areas in the last few hours that are left and have a good sleep so that you can perform your best tomorrow. The higher scores of your NBMEs are suggesting that your knowledge level is good. (Y)
 
I got 248 on 19 and 250 on 18. I got 260 on the real thing. I was on a downward trend at the end of my dedicated as well. I can promise you that you didn’t forget everything you have studied. Take a deep breath. In retrospect I think I was just burnt out and getting lazy toward the end and just rushing through to get a score. You are probably just doing the same thing. You won’t do this on test day. Get well rested and ready to perform on exam day.

In that case, Good luck for tomorrow!
Review your weak areas in the last few hours that are left and have a good sleep so that you can perform your best tomorrow. The higher scores of your NBMEs are suggesting that your knowledge level is good. (Y)

thanks gents, I was thinking of either going for a run tonight or tomorrow morning, any recommendations? or should I play it by ear and see if I manage to get any sleep?
 
Hey @sahell, I’m finding your advices very useful so a big thanks for that.
I am also doing offline NBMEs these days (exam is in a week).
Could you please comment on how useful these turned out to be for you? What % of your exam was based on topics/concepts/questions similar to these NBME forms?

Glad to be of service. Honestly it was difficult enough to learn the stuff without learning where I learnt the stuff from. Getting familiar with the language of the NBMEs helped me for sure though.
 
Hey y'all, been following this thread throughout dedicated and I can finally join in! Took Step yesterday, and found it to be MUCH more difficult than I had imagined. To me it seemed like doing 7 straight Uworld blocks, and looked very little like the NBMEs. Actually managed to do pretty well on most of the questions I looked up, but there were at least 10-15 that I had NO idea what the answer was or what the vignette was even hinting at so I can't really look those up. The wait for the score is going to be terrible, post test feeling was that I probably missed between 25-40 depending on how some of the weird questions turn out. Goal was 250+, but not sure that is going to happen. Best of luck to everyone still studying!

Practice Exams (in order):
School CBSE 1: 200 (pre studying)
School CBSE 2: 250 (8 weeks in)
UWSA 1: 266 (10 weeks)
NBME 19: 240 (12 weeks)
NBME 17: 250 (13 weeks)
UWSA 2: 262 (14 weeks-two weeks before the exam)
NBME 18: 248 (Did this back to back w/ UWSA2)
NBME 13: 250 (Did 13-16 the week before my exam)
NBME 15: 250
NBME 16: 261
 
Hey y'all, been following this thread throughout dedicated and I can finally join in! Took Step yesterday, and found it to be MUCH more difficult than I had imagined. To me it seemed like doing 7 straight Uworld blocks, and looked very little like the NBMEs. Actually managed to do pretty well on most of the questions I looked up, but there were at least 10-15 that I had NO idea what the answer was or what the vignette was even hinting at so I can't really look those up. The wait for the score is going to be terrible, post test feeling was that I probably missed between 25-40 depending on how some of the weird questions turn out. Goal was 250+, but not sure that is going to happen. Best of luck to everyone still studying!

Did you find the questions on par with the difficulty/length/complexity of UWorld? As opposed to the sometimes shorter, more recall-like questions on NBMEs
 
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Did you find the questions on par with the difficulty/length/complexity of UWorld? As opposed to the sometimes shorter, more recall-like questions on NBMEs

I found most on par with Uworld, there were some recall questions but they were the minority in my opinion. There were a few that I found pretty impossible, but I guess that is pretty typical to have some crazy hard questions. And by hard I mean super vague vignettes or topics that I had never even covered. I've googled a few and still can't find an answer to 4-5 of them.
 
Hey Guys, Just finished the exam. Im pretty sure I failed, because the majority of questions ended up forcing me to choose between 2 answers. I felt the length of the exam was much more difficult to face than the actual questions, although it didn't help that I pulled an all nighter lol. Some of the questions where easy, as in as soon as you see the buzzword, you have the answer. Some of the questions required that you memorise a single fact from a single page in first aid. Some questions touched upon material I had never encountered before. I finished each section with 10 minutes to spare, and I forbade myself from reviewing any question because the moment you question yourself, everything starts getting worse. Im was hoping for a 240 for Gen Surgery, but Im 100% sure its not happening lol. Hopefully I can make up for it in step 2. Hope you guys succeed in this test!
 
Took the test today, wanted to share my experience (It's a novel FYI). Thank you @Ttubule for your experience, I lived vicariously through you for a few weeks.

Contrary to other reports, my test was basically exactly like the NBME's, not at all like Uworld (unfortunately, as you'll see later). I would say the majority of the questions were "Gimmie's", some required a bit more thinking, and around 2% were complete WTF. I mean, there is literally no way I could have prepared for those questions (not in UFAPs, Robbins, Boron & Baelpaep, or wikipedia) and I still can't find the answer to a few of them after searching. Honestly though, those were only one per 100 questions.

They are SO good at wording questions to make you think twice about your answer, it drives me crazy. I honestly don't see it as a test of your intelligence or grasp on material, as much as a test of whether you are able to read the test writer's mind. The only way I can describe it is like: "Your surf and turf has just arrived at the table. Your favorite food in the entire world is filet mignon, but you are also on vacation in the Caribbean, and haven't had lobster (your second favorite food) in over a three years. Which do you choose to taste first? A: Filet, B: Lobster, C: Asparagus, D: Throw your drink in the waiter's face." Again, most of the test is obvious, just like the NBME's... But it is these types of questions that stick out in your memory.

There were also a few questions that were difficult to decipher what they were asking. For example (not from my actual test); it would state "Bob has essential hypertension. He is given an ACE-inhibitor and his blood pressure decreases. What is the mechanism behind this?
A) Increased cardiac output or TPR
B) Decreased AT2
C) Fibromuscular dysplasia
D) Renal artery stenosis

... I definitely read that as "what is the mechanism behind the BP decrease," not the mechanism behind the hypertension... but then 3 of the answers are related to the first part of Bob having HTN. It's like "which this are you talking about... the HTN or the pharm?" They are just so vague sometimes in what they are asking, it infuriates me.

For reference:
Baseline NBME 15: 14 weeks out: 203
UWSA1: 251 (5 weeks out)
NBME 17: 228 (4 weeks out)
NBME 13: 238 (3 weeks out)
NBME 16: 240 (2.5 weeks out)
NBME 19: 238 (2 weeks out)
NBME 18: 240 (1 week out)
UWSA 2: 254 (1 week out)
NBME 12 (offline): 262 according to previous reports (2 days out)

UW first pass (timed, random) = 74%
Kaplan first pass (timed, random) = 78%

I'm not sure what it is, but I couldn't get the scores I wanted on the NBME's... Something about the way they write their questions just drives me nuts and makes me second guess myself (just like the real thing). I found Uworld questions were significantly more clear and in my opinion, better written (actually tests your knowledge base).

That said, I think I ended up with a 240 flat. My goal was 250, but it felt EXACTLY like the NBME's... and I averaged right around there in the weeks leading up to the test. I made quite a few mistakes (basic embryology... think drawings of gastrulation, what is the best thing to say to the patient, etc), but also got some challenging questions correct (some of the "one-liners" from FA). Overall, it was 7 blocks of NBME's.

My first 2 blocks were cake... I marked 4 questions between the two and felt confident in my answers. Then I got wrecked, marked 25 in block 2, ~15 in blocks 3 and 4. Went for a run during lunch which helped clear my head, but the last few blocks had ~ 6 "what answer are you looking for" type of questions. Overall, it really wasn't so bad, but I do wish they would be more clear in what they are asking (like Uworld or Kaplan).
 
you went for a run during the lunch break for step 1?

also, how did you feel the timing on the test compared , and did you see much biochem ?

Took the test today, wanted to share my experience (It's a novel FYI). Thank you @Ttubule for your experience, I lived vicariously through you for a few weeks.

Contrary to other reports, my test was basically exactly like the NBME's, not at all like Uworld (unfortunately, as you'll see later). I would say the majority of the questions were "Gimmie's", some required a bit more thinking, and around 2% were complete WTF. I mean, there is literally no way I could have prepared for those questions (not in UFAPs, Robbins, Boron & Baelpaep, or wikipedia) and I still can't find the answer to a few of them after searching. Honestly though, those were only one per 100 questions.

They are SO good at wording questions to make you think twice about your answer, it drives me crazy. I honestly don't see it as a test of your intelligence or grasp on material, as much as a test of whether you are able to read the test writer's mind. The only way I can describe it is like: "Your surf and turf has just arrived at the table. Your favorite food in the entire world is filet mignon, but you are also on vacation in the Caribbean, and haven't had lobster (your second favorite food) in over a three years. Which do you choose to taste first? A: Filet, B: Lobster, C: Asparagus, D: Throw your drink in the waiter's face." Again, most of the test is obvious, just like the NBME's... But it is these types of questions that stick out in your memory.

There were also a few questions that were difficult to decipher what they were asking. For example (not from my actual test); it would state "Bob has essential hypertension. He is given an ACE-inhibitor and his blood pressure decreases. What is the mechanism behind this?
A) Increased cardiac output or TPR
B) Decreased AT2
C) Fibromuscular dysplasia
D) Renal artery stenosis

... I definitely read that as "what is the mechanism behind the BP decrease," not the mechanism behind the hypertension... but then 3 of the answers are related to the first part of Bob having HTN. It's like "which this are you talking about... the HTN or the pharm?" They are just so vague sometimes in what they are asking, it infuriates me.

For reference:
Baseline NBME 15: 14 weeks out: 203
UWSA1: 251 (5 weeks out)
NBME 17: 228 (4 weeks out)
NBME 13: 238 (3 weeks out)
NBME 16: 240 (2.5 weeks out)
NBME 19: 238 (2 weeks out)
NBME 18: 240 (1 week out)
UWSA 2: 254 (1 week out)
NBME 12 (offline): 262 according to previous reports (2 days out)

UW first pass (timed, random) = 74%
Kaplan first pass (timed, random) = 78%

I'm not sure what it is, but I couldn't get the scores I wanted on the NBME's... Something about the way they write their questions just drives me nuts and makes me second guess myself (just like the real thing). I found Uworld questions were significantly more clear and in my opinion, better written (actually tests your knowledge base).

That said, I think I ended up with a 240 flat. My goal was 250, but it felt EXACTLY like the NBME's... and I averaged right around there in the weeks leading up to the test. I made quite a few mistakes (basic embryology... think drawings of gastrulation, what is the best thing to say to the patient, etc), but also got some challenging questions correct (some of the "one-liners" from FA). Overall, it was 7 blocks of NBME's.

My first 2 blocks were cake... I marked 4 questions between the two and felt confident in my answers. Then I got wrecked, marked 25 in block 2, ~15 in blocks 3 and 4. Went for a run during lunch which helped clear my head, but the last few blocks had ~ 6 "what answer are you looking for" type of questions. Overall, it really wasn't so bad, but I do wish they would be more clear in what they are asking (like Uworld or Kaplan).
 
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Took the test today, wanted to share my experience (It's a novel FYI). Thank you @Ttubule for your experience, I lived vicariously through you for a few weeks.

Contrary to other reports, my test was basically exactly like the NBME's, not at all like Uworld (unfortunately, as you'll see later). I would say the majority of the questions were "Gimmie's", some required a bit more thinking, and around 2% were complete WTF. I mean, there is literally no way I could have prepared for those questions (not in UFAPs, Robbins, Boron & Baelpaep, or wikipedia) and I still can't find the answer to a few of them after searching. Honestly though, those were only one per 100 questions.

They are SO good at wording questions to make you think twice about your answer, it drives me crazy. I honestly don't see it as a test of your intelligence or grasp on material, as much as a test of whether you are able to read the test writer's mind. The only way I can describe it is like: "Your surf and turf has just arrived at the table. Your favorite food in the entire world is filet mignon, but you are also on vacation in the Caribbean, and haven't had lobster (your second favorite food) in over a three years. Which do you choose to taste first? A: Filet, B: Lobster, C: Asparagus, D: Throw your drink in the waiter's face." Again, most of the test is obvious, just like the NBME's... But it is these types of questions that stick out in your memory.

There were also a few questions that were difficult to decipher what they were asking. For example (not from my actual test); it would state "Bob has essential hypertension. He is given an ACE-inhibitor and his blood pressure decreases. What is the mechanism behind this?
A) Increased cardiac output or TPR
B) Decreased AT2
C) Fibromuscular dysplasia
D) Renal artery stenosis

... I definitely read that as "what is the mechanism behind the BP decrease," not the mechanism behind the hypertension... but then 3 of the answers are related to the first part of Bob having HTN. It's like "which this are you talking about... the HTN or the pharm?" They are just so vague sometimes in what they are asking, it infuriates me.

For reference:
Baseline NBME 15: 14 weeks out: 203
UWSA1: 251 (5 weeks out)
NBME 17: 228 (4 weeks out)
NBME 13: 238 (3 weeks out)
NBME 16: 240 (2.5 weeks out)
NBME 19: 238 (2 weeks out)
NBME 18: 240 (1 week out)
UWSA 2: 254 (1 week out)
NBME 12 (offline): 262 according to previous reports (2 days out)

UW first pass (timed, random) = 74%
Kaplan first pass (timed, random) = 78%

I'm not sure what it is, but I couldn't get the scores I wanted on the NBME's... Something about the way they write their questions just drives me nuts and makes me second guess myself (just like the real thing). I found Uworld questions were significantly more clear and in my opinion, better written (actually tests your knowledge base).

That said, I think I ended up with a 240 flat. My goal was 250, but it felt EXACTLY like the NBME's... and I averaged right around there in the weeks leading up to the test. I made quite a few mistakes (basic embryology... think drawings of gastrulation, what is the best thing to say to the patient, etc), but also got some challenging questions correct (some of the "one-liners" from FA). Overall, it was 7 blocks of NBME's.

My first 2 blocks were cake... I marked 4 questions between the two and felt confident in my answers. Then I got wrecked, marked 25 in block 2, ~15 in blocks 3 and 4. Went for a run during lunch which helped clear my head, but the last few blocks had ~ 6 "what answer are you looking for" type of questions. Overall, it really wasn't so bad, but I do wish they would be more clear in what they are asking (like Uworld or Kaplan).
Thanks for writing that.
Really dislike the NBME's. Feel the easy questions are too easy and hard questions are random and ambiguously phrased which can boil down to luck than knowledge.
 
you went for a run during the lunch break for step 1?

also, how did you feel the timing on the test compared , and did you see much biochem ?


Yeah, just a little 1.5 miles to get the blood flowing. I finished my first block in 30 minutes so I had a TON of break time to use.

The timing for me was comparable to the NBME's. I start at a pretty high pace and gradually slow from there. I only had 1 block that I used all the time, and it was because I had marked about half the questions and kept going back and forth between answers. I usually finished with 15-20 minutes left for every block.

I had a decent amount of biochem but nothing overwhelming... about what I expected honestly. It was much easier than the biochem in Uworld though, none of it required knowing how to draw the pathways (probably wasted ~100 hours doing that unfortunately).
 
Took the test today, wanted to share my experience (It's a novel FYI). Thank you @Ttubule for your experience, I lived vicariously through you for a few weeks.

Contrary to other reports, my test was basically exactly like the NBME's, not at all like Uworld (unfortunately, as you'll see later). I would say the majority of the questions were "Gimmie's", some required a bit more thinking, and around 2% were complete WTF. I mean, there is literally no way I could have prepared for those questions (not in UFAPs, Robbins, Boron & Baelpaep, or wikipedia) and I still can't find the answer to a few of them after searching. Honestly though, those were only one per 100 questions.

They are SO good at wording questions to make you think twice about your answer, it drives me crazy. I honestly don't see it as a test of your intelligence or grasp on material, as much as a test of whether you are able to read the test writer's mind. The only way I can describe it is like: "Your surf and turf has just arrived at the table. Your favorite food in the entire world is filet mignon, but you are also on vacation in the Caribbean, and haven't had lobster (your second favorite food) in over a three years. Which do you choose to taste first? A: Filet, B: Lobster, C: Asparagus, D: Throw your drink in the waiter's face." Again, most of the test is obvious, just like the NBME's... But it is these types of questions that stick out in your memory.

There were also a few questions that were difficult to decipher what they were asking. For example (not from my actual test); it would state "Bob has essential hypertension. He is given an ACE-inhibitor and his blood pressure decreases. What is the mechanism behind this?
A) Increased cardiac output or TPR
B) Decreased AT2
C) Fibromuscular dysplasia
D) Renal artery stenosis

... I definitely read that as "what is the mechanism behind the BP decrease," not the mechanism behind the hypertension... but then 3 of the answers are related to the first part of Bob having HTN. It's like "which this are you talking about... the HTN or the pharm?" They are just so vague sometimes in what they are asking, it infuriates me.

For reference:
Baseline NBME 15: 14 weeks out: 203
UWSA1: 251 (5 weeks out)
NBME 17: 228 (4 weeks out)
NBME 13: 238 (3 weeks out)
NBME 16: 240 (2.5 weeks out)
NBME 19: 238 (2 weeks out)
NBME 18: 240 (1 week out)
UWSA 2: 254 (1 week out)
NBME 12 (offline): 262 according to previous reports (2 days out)

UW first pass (timed, random) = 74%
Kaplan first pass (timed, random) = 78%

I'm not sure what it is, but I couldn't get the scores I wanted on the NBME's... Something about the way they write their questions just drives me nuts and makes me second guess myself (just like the real thing). I found Uworld questions were significantly more clear and in my opinion, better written (actually tests your knowledge base).

That said, I think I ended up with a 240 flat. My goal was 250, but it felt EXACTLY like the NBME's... and I averaged right around there in the weeks leading up to the test. I made quite a few mistakes (basic embryology... think drawings of gastrulation, what is the best thing to say to the patient, etc), but also got some challenging questions correct (some of the "one-liners" from FA). Overall, it was 7 blocks of NBME's.

My first 2 blocks were cake... I marked 4 questions between the two and felt confident in my answers. Then I got wrecked, marked 25 in block 2, ~15 in blocks 3 and 4. Went for a run during lunch which helped clear my head, but the last few blocks had ~ 6 "what answer are you looking for" type of questions. Overall, it really wasn't so bad, but I do wish they would be more clear in what they are asking (like Uworld or Kaplan).

Aw thanks dude glad my posts were able to help a little!

This is a great summary of what a lot of the test questions are like... I’ll say this, the real thing for me felt a lot like how I felt on my weakest NBMEs, and my performance report looked that way too so I think I felt accurately about it but the key here is that the curve is a lot different on the real deal. I have a couple friends who did quite a bit better than their NBME average, so I wouldn’t lose hope on hitting your goal by any means!

HUGE congrats on tackling the beast!!!
 
Took the test today, wanted to share my experience (It's a novel FYI). Thank you @Ttubule for your experience, I lived vicariously through you for a few weeks.

Contrary to other reports, my test was basically exactly like the NBME's, not at all like Uworld (unfortunately, as you'll see later). I would say the majority of the questions were "Gimmie's", some required a bit more thinking, and around 2% were complete WTF. I mean, there is literally no way I could have prepared for those questions (not in UFAPs, Robbins, Boron & Baelpaep, or wikipedia) and I still can't find the answer to a few of them after searching. Honestly though, those were only one per 100 questions.

They are SO good at wording questions to make you think twice about your answer, it drives me crazy. I honestly don't see it as a test of your intelligence or grasp on material, as much as a test of whether you are able to read the test writer's mind. The only way I can describe it is like: "Your surf and turf has just arrived at the table. Your favorite food in the entire world is filet mignon, but you are also on vacation in the Caribbean, and haven't had lobster (your second favorite food) in over a three years. Which do you choose to taste first? A: Filet, B: Lobster, C: Asparagus, D: Throw your drink in the waiter's face." Again, most of the test is obvious, just like the NBME's... But it is these types of questions that stick out in your memory.

There were also a few questions that were difficult to decipher what they were asking. For example (not from my actual test); it would state "Bob has essential hypertension. He is given an ACE-inhibitor and his blood pressure decreases. What is the mechanism behind this?
A) Increased cardiac output or TPR
B) Decreased AT2
C) Fibromuscular dysplasia
D) Renal artery stenosis

... I definitely read that as "what is the mechanism behind the BP decrease," not the mechanism behind the hypertension... but then 3 of the answers are related to the first part of Bob having HTN. It's like "which this are you talking about... the HTN or the pharm?" They are just so vague sometimes in what they are asking, it infuriates me.

For reference:
Baseline NBME 15: 14 weeks out: 203
UWSA1: 251 (5 weeks out)
NBME 17: 228 (4 weeks out)
NBME 13: 238 (3 weeks out)
NBME 16: 240 (2.5 weeks out)
NBME 19: 238 (2 weeks out)
NBME 18: 240 (1 week out)
UWSA 2: 254 (1 week out)
NBME 12 (offline): 262 according to previous reports (2 days out)

UW first pass (timed, random) = 74%
Kaplan first pass (timed, random) = 78%

I'm not sure what it is, but I couldn't get the scores I wanted on the NBME's... Something about the way they write their questions just drives me nuts and makes me second guess myself (just like the real thing). I found Uworld questions were significantly more clear and in my opinion, better written (actually tests your knowledge base).

That said, I think I ended up with a 240 flat. My goal was 250, but it felt EXACTLY like the NBME's... and I averaged right around there in the weeks leading up to the test. I made quite a few mistakes (basic embryology... think drawings of gastrulation, what is the best thing to say to the patient, etc), but also got some challenging questions correct (some of the "one-liners" from FA). Overall, it was 7 blocks of NBME's.

My first 2 blocks were cake... I marked 4 questions between the two and felt confident in my answers. Then I got wrecked, marked 25 in block 2, ~15 in blocks 3 and 4. Went for a run during lunch which helped clear my head, but the last few blocks had ~ 6 "what answer are you looking for" type of questions. Overall, it really wasn't so bad, but I do wish they would be more clear in what they are asking (like Uworld or Kaplan).
So in theory, if you were the smartest person in the worlds, studied all the resources and never made careless mistakes, you think the best you could have gotten was 98% correct?
 
Fyi, my permit is no longer available, but this upcoming Wednesday is my 2nd. I don't think it means your results are coming unless I'm getting them early

Maybe your eligibility period ended. I've read that the disappearing act doesn't always happen on time for everyone. Maybe it's an Easter miracle or do those only happen at Christmas?
 
Got my score back the other day and home from vacation now so here's my write up...

NBME15 (baseline 8ish weeks out)--237
Free 120 (3 weeks out)--88%
NBME 19 (one week out)--246

Real deal--263

I was honestly shocked to see my score. My goal was a 250 and I never dreamed of breaking into the 260s! I've already discussed my test day experience but to recap--felt just like an NBME, very similar to 19. I must have been very lucky in retrospect because there were no major surprises and I felt like I could reason through all the questions.

Resources used (in order of importance)

Uworld--nothing groundbreaking to say here. Did a first pass before dedicated which was helpful for me (69% first pass). About 1/2 was alongside of my organ system blocks, the other half I did random mode in the months leading up to dedicated. I did not take notes or anything the first pass. Second pass during dedicated I did 60-80 questions per day, mostly random tutor mode. Second pass was 84%. I took some notes which I compiled in Excel...but nothing too crazy because I forced myself to write them in my own words without looking at Uworld. This helped solidify things. I did not do any flashcards for Uworld. I did some of my incorrects during the week of my test, especially the hated topics of biochem and neuro.

Firecracker--I could do a really long, in depth discussion of this resource but I will keep it short here and just say that I feel this is hands down the best review resource out there. It is absolutely the most comprehensive without being too detailed. It is NOT simply first aid in flashcard format (I thought this until I actually used FA a little bit lol). There are really good explanations of topics not found anywhere else that helps you not have to memorize as much (understanding mechanism and the "why" behind stuff). I used it extensively alongside classes, and I did a lot of flashcards during dedicated. I also read through topics and used it like a review book which was helpful, but forced recall is undoubtedly the way to go if you can make the time for it. 1000% would do firecracker again, worth every penny.

Goljan--discovered this gem about 2/3 through my organ system curriculum. The beauty of this book is that Goljan explains the mechanism behind just about everything--there are so soooo many "ah hah" moments where you finally get to fully understand something you have tried to rote memorize in the past. For me, I think the key to my score was memorizing as little as possible, and trying to get as much information/mechanism as I could to stick long-term. Goljan was absolutely key for this!! (but doing questions is better/just as important...). I read through all the organ system chapters in Goljan 2-3x during dedicated, and the basic science stuff 1.5x. I was really kicking myself for not having started the basic science stuff earlier because there is some GOLD in there...overall this was a great resource for me and the most enjoyable to read/use.

All other resources were used sporadically/minimally:

Pathoma: watched on the treadmill, alongside classes and during dedicated. For dedicated I only watched chapters that I was weak on (like breast cancers, bone tumors, blood cancers, glomerulopathies, etc). I also did the foundational (first three chapters stuff) more in depth because I was very weak on this stuff and it kept coming up in NBMEs.

Rx Qbank: Did probably 80-90% alongside my classes. Honestly a very solid Qbank that helps drill in the most important concepts and facts. I did a few blocks in some of my weaker areas during dedicated (a good bit of neuro).

First Aid: Did not like the formatting/content of this book at all...Just was not working for me. I think I need more than just bullet points and phrases to engage my brain...That being said, I did one pass through the basic science section in the 3 days before my test, and having done a lot of questions at that point I was able to make more connections and engage my brain a little better. But it really freaked me out when I would come across random facts and stuff that I felt like I didn't know or had not seen before (FA has plenty of LOW YIELD crap that was never in Uworld, NBME, other resoruces, etc...). Moral of the story is YOU DO NOT HAVE TO USE THIS BOOK IF YOU DONT LIKE IT!!!

Robbins Qbank and text: Used extensively alongside classes. Time would have been better spend with GOLJAN (although the questions were probably pretty helpful, but a lot are on random diseases and crap that never comes up again).


Overall, the most important things for me were understanding mechanisms behind stuff (without going too crazy here) so that I could memorize as little as possible. Most of this was done alongside my classes and just refreshed in dedicated. I also had a really, really positive attitude on test day and totally pumped myself up! (test day soundtrack--We Are The Champions, We Will Rock you, A Country Boy Can Survive, etc...)

During classes I always did reasonably well but was nowhere near the top (except on one or two blocks like micro). I usually got low A's on test or high Bs. I actually completely stopped listening to lectures during my last semester and would only read through the powerpoints maybe twice or three times...AFTER having read the textbooks. I spent a ton of time during classes reading books, doing flashcards (firecracker), and doing practice questions. I realized that doing the lecture deal took the longest and was the least helpful for me...so I prioritized accordingly.

My goal in med school has always been to just learn stuff well, and the fields I'm interested in do not require a high step score. This allowed me to break away from the UFAPs mantra and lectures, which was a major risk in my mind but absolutely paid off. Good luck to everyone studying for this beast!!!!
 
How did it go?

I honestly don't know what to say. I will be happy to pass at this point. I wish I had a delightful experience like the other guys here, but that'd be a lie. I don't mean to be melodramatic, but it honestly felt worse than any NBME or UWSA or UW block, it might just be my luck because they kept hammering the important topics (ie. upper limb anatomy, not a single lower limb related question), but focused on a specific aspect of them (ie. 3 questions about upper limb vascular supply which I happened to neglect, maybe more, can't recall much of the exam), not a single brachial plexus lesion question, zero, I kept waiting for it to come but to no such luck. No lung cancer questions, no anti-arrhythmic questions, no inflammatory bowel diseases, a single anemia question, a single CT of the CNS, not a single parkinsons question, it was surreal. To me personally, none of the questions we're even close to the phrasing used in any NBME or UW. I had a great nights sleep, I even overslept by a half hour, had a great breakfast a full hour before my exam started, didn't have any bathroom issues, all my visits happened comfortably during my breaks. I was lousy with timing my break during my practice test and expected it to happen during the real deal, so I was prepared. I wasn't going to post anything until my score came out because I didn't want to freak anyone out prematurely, but since someone asked, I couldn't just "dine & dash" after all the help I've gotten from this board.

to whomever mentioned the ctrl+v of the CIN, thank you, that possibly did help me out.

I'm travelling today, I'll be sure to post more stuff if it comes back to me because I'm absolutely blanking right now.
 
I honestly don't know what to say. I will be happy to pass at this point. I wish I had a delightful experience like the other guys here, but that'd be a lie. I don't mean to be melodramatic, but it honestly felt worse than any NBME or UWSA or UW block, it might just be my luck because they kept hammering the important topics (ie. upper limb anatomy, not a single lower limb related question), but focused on a specific aspect of them (ie. 3 questions about upper limb vascular supply which I happened to neglect, maybe more, can't recall much of the exam), not a single brachial plexus lesion question, zero, I kept waiting for it to come but to no such luck. No lung cancer questions, no anti-arrhythmic questions, no inflammatory bowel diseases, a single anemia question, a single CT of the CNS, not a single parkinsons question, it was surreal. To me personally, none of the questions we're even close to the phrasing used in any NBME or UW. I had a great nights sleep, I even overslept by a half hour, had a great breakfast a full hour before my exam started, didn't have any bathroom issues, all my visits happened comfortably during my breaks. I was lousy with timing my break during my practice test and expected it to happen during the real deal, so I was prepared. I wasn't going to post anything until my score came out because I didn't want to freak anyone out prematurely, but since someone asked, I couldn't just "dine & dash" after all the help I've gotten from this board.

to whomever mentioned the ctrl+v of the CIN, thank you, that possibly did help me out.

I'm travelling today, I'll be sure to post more stuff if it comes back to me because I'm absolutely blanking right now.

I had a similar experience, except I didn't feel like they hammered on important topics on my exam. It felt like the most random combination of low yield topics I have ever seen. I already know I missed 20+ for sure. The first block of my exam was a total nightmare. I had been finishing NBME and UWSA blocks with 15-25 minutes left and I ran out of time twice on the real thing. I would also like to know why anyone recommends the NBMEs. For starters, my exam was NOTHING like any NBME. Not even close. I honestly feel like I wasted WAY too much time taking all of the NBMEs because, while they may be predictive, they were in no way similar on any level to the exam I took. My exam most closely resembled UWorld, but even then I would say that UWorld is 10000x easier than the real thing. I walked INTO my exam pretty confident that I would easily score a 235/240+ when I left, I was praying that I either scored a 230+ or failed so that I could retake it. If you are someone who reads first aid or does Uworld and looks for key words/phases etc and does not understand the concepts, you are not going to like this exam. UWorld uses a lot of the same language as FA, my exam did not. In fact, it felt like they knew people memorized the wording without knowing what was actually going on and they made a conscious effort to change the wording. I talked to someone else who took it a day later and was one of those people who memorized phrases/keywords and they mentioned that those were completely lacking on their exam also.

I had MULTIPLE questions on topics that did not show up on any of the qbanks, some may have been like 1 or 2 lines in FA and were not in Pathoma or Goljan. I would not call them high yield topics though, I wouldn't even call them low yield, I would call them totally insignificant and irrelevant topics. I also had several questions that I still cannot find the answers to. I think I am most confused by the NBME to real deal comparison. To give you an idea, I would say that the NBMEs are cats and the real thing is an earthquake. I mean they aren't even both animals or both natural disasters. They are two completely different entities. That is was irritates me the most. Why would they have "practice exams" that essentially look NOTHING like the real thing? The free 120...why bother? I got 90% correct on the free 120, again, nothing like the real thing. Like not even on the same planet. I am still a little bit shocked that the NBMEs are said to be so predictive. How? It is like taking two totally different tests?

The last thing I will say is that I spent a great deal of time focusing on the topics that came up over and over and over and over again on the Qbanks. For example Cryptococcus in HIV is alllllll over the place. There are like 100 questions on that between Kaplan, UW and Rx. Not a single question on my exam. Which, okay I get it, they can't put all high yield topics, but that is just an example. I found that I had very few questions on these topics that appeared over and over again and way more questions on random minutia. In fact one of the micro questions I received was not in FA and the way it was presented on sketchy would not have given you the answer. That was fun. I still can't find the answer.

I am not writing this to freak anyone out. But I wish someone had told me this before I sat my exam. I probably would not have freaked out so much during the first block because I would have been prepared to face questions that were nothing like the NBMEs. My recommendation is to just study as much as you can, take a deep breath and just get through it. I have no idea what outcome I will have, but I am proud of myself that I essentially wanted to leave after block 2 but I took a deep breath and really pulled it together for the last 6 blocks. My adrenalin was so high after blocks 1+2 that I essentially took 10minutes worth of breaks total. I don't know if that helped or hurt, but I never once felt fatigued. I could have taken a second exam right after. Just do what feels right on test day.
 
I had a similar experience, except I didn't feel like they hammered on important topics on my exam. It felt like the most random combination of low yield topics I have ever seen. I already know I missed 20+ for sure. The first block of my exam was a total nightmare. I had been finishing NBME and UWSA blocks with 15-25 minutes left and I ran out of time twice on the real thing. I would also like to know why anyone recommends the NBMEs. For starters, my exam was NOTHING like any NBME. Not even close. I honestly feel like I wasted WAY too much time taking all of the NBMEs because, while they may be predictive, they were in no way similar on any level to the exam I took. My exam most closely resembled UWorld, but even then I would say that UWorld is 10000x easier than the real thing. I walked INTO my exam pretty confident that I would easily score a 235/240+ when I left, I was praying that I either scored a 230+ or failed so that I could retake it. If you are someone who reads first aid or does Uworld and looks for key words/phases etc and does not understand the concepts, you are not going to like this exam. UWorld uses a lot of the same language as FA, my exam did not. In fact, it felt like they knew people memorized the wording without knowing what was actually going on and they made a conscious effort to change the wording. I talked to someone else who took it a day later and was one of those people who memorized phrases/keywords and they mentioned that those were completely lacking on their exam also.

I had MULTIPLE questions on topics that did not show up on any of the qbanks, some may have been like 1 or 2 lines in FA and were not in Pathoma or Goljan. I would not call them high yield topics though, I wouldn't even call them low yield, I would call them totally insignificant and irrelevant topics. I also had several questions that I still cannot find the answers to. I think I am most confused by the NBME to real deal comparison. To give you an idea, I would say that the NBMEs are cats and the real thing is an earthquake. I mean they aren't even both animals or both natural disasters. They are two completely different entities. That is was irritates me the most. Why would they have "practice exams" that essentially look NOTHING like the real thing? The free 120...why bother? I got 90% correct on the free 120, again, nothing like the real thing. Like not even on the same planet. I am still a little bit shocked that the NBMEs are said to be so predictive. How? It is like taking two totally different tests?

The last thing I will say is that I spent a great deal of time focusing on the topics that came up over and over and over and over again on the Qbanks. For example Cryptococcus in HIV is alllllll over the place. There are like 100 questions on that between Kaplan, UW and Rx. Not a single question on my exam. Which, okay I get it, they can't put all high yield topics, but that is just an example. I found that I had very few questions on these topics that appeared over and over again and way more questions on random minutia. In fact one of the micro questions I received was not in FA and the way it was presented on sketchy would not have given you the answer. That was fun. I still can't find the answer.

I am not writing this to freak anyone out. But I wish someone had told me this before I sat my exam. I probably would not have freaked out so much during the first block because I would have been prepared to face questions that were nothing like the NBMEs. My recommendation is to just study as much as you can, take a deep breath and just get through it. I have no idea what outcome I will have, but I am proud of myself that I essentially wanted to leave after block 2 but I took a deep breath and really pulled it together for the last 6 blocks. My adrenalin was so high after blocks 1+2 that I essentially took 10minutes worth of breaks total. I don't know if that helped or hurt, but I never once felt fatigued. I could have taken a second exam right after. Just do what feels right on test day.

Shocks me that they can't create a test that is equally difficult for everyone taking it. Some people say it's like Nbme , some say it's like u world and some say's it much tougher than uworld.
 
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