COMLEX Official 2019 Comlex 1 Experiences and Scores Thread

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It's that time of the year. Anyone took new Comsae recently? Hopefully it's more predicitve than old ones that were all over the place - like +/- 100 points.
Also, interesting to hear if this years comlex is indeed changed? If anyone took it recently - please share your experience. Especially if you can compare it to previous year one.
 
If you made a 513 on Form 105 I'd say you should get 550 or higher. The 105 reminded me of the real thing.
Would you say it was similar content wise or question stem length wise? Am I correct to imagine comlex as 105 but with a bit more lengthy stems? Thanks
 
Similar stem lengths. Yes.

Content, not sure. There are so many diferent forms for the COMLEX. Its a crap shoot as to what you get.

Agreed. Stem lengths weren't as bad as I was expecting, actually. Very similar style to COMBANK imo. My content seemed much harder tbh. Way less micro that I knew. I scored decent on the 105 (442), legit hoping I passed yesterday. My form had A LOT of stuff I had never seen before in Sketchy FA Pathoma COMBANK/UWorld. The UFAPS method may be dead for COMLEX, but not sure what I could have done differently.
 
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Agreed. Stem lengths weren't as bad as I was expecting, actually. Very similar style to COMBANK imo. My content seemed much harder tbh. Way less micro that I knew. I scored decent on the 105 (442), legit hoping I passed yesterday. My form had A LOT of stuff I had never seen before in Sketchy FA Pathoma COMBANK/UWorld. The UFAPS method may be dead for COMLEX, but not sure what I could have done differently.
Hopefully some of that never before seen stuff was experimental. I think if you scored 442 on 105 - you should be fine man.
 
Hopefully some of that never before seen stuff was experimental. I think if you scored 442 on 105 - you should be fine man.
I hope so. I'm more of a bottom third of class type of person and want to do FM, so literally just want to pass this thing and move on. It was such a **** show. Took the 105 6 weeks ago, shoulda taken LEVEL 1 5 weeks ago.
 
Lol did anyone else not finish all the questions in a block on Comlex? Was surprised how much time played into that exam, even more than difficulty of content

That's my biggest fear to be honest to lose points due to time deficit. It's like on comlex (unlike step1) your reading/comprehension speed is the rate limiting enzyme. Even if you have knowledge - you won't be able to apply it properly if you are not as good speed wise 🙁
 
Lol did anyone else not finish all the questions in a block on Comlex? Was surprised how much time played into that exam, even more than difficulty of content
yeah i didnt finish the last few questions in the afternoon. didnt get to review my last block in the morning. crazy exam format
 
yeah i didnt finish the last few questions in the afternoon. didnt get to review my last block in the morning. crazy exam format
I literally was front loaded with so many obscure ethics in the first half and literally timed out at like Q 15 in block 4, lost 35-40 questions. Didn’t even see them. Hope it doesn’t fail me
 
I literally was front loaded with so many obscure ethics in the first half and literally timed out at like Q 15 in block 4, lost 35-40 questions. Didn’t even see them. Hope it doesn’t fail me
I literally was front loaded with so many obscure ethics in the first half and literally timed out at like Q 15 in block 4, lost 35-40 questions. Didn’t even see them. Hope it doesn’t fail me

how is that possible? why timed out? 🙁 it wlll be alright
 
UMM it doesn't time you:? you have to pace yourself? kind of like the COMSEA ?
No yeah it’s timed just poor time time management on my part. Comsae I finished with time to spare on both. 530 on 103 and 513 on 105. Just got lost in ethics black hole and wasted 5 mins too many times
 
i would rather get herpes than take that exam again... I feel like i failed... wow.

Same! I just took it today. That was a literal nightmare. Like everything about it. Long, early day. At the test center 7:20-5:00pm. The questions were long and weird. Overall just f**king awful.

COMSAE Form E - 1/25/19 - 481
COMSAE Form D - 6/03/19 - 486 - Class Avg 487
COMSAE 105 - 6/04/19 - 402 - Class Avg 420

The COMLEX today was very similar to Form 105.

100% agree. Unfortunately it felt very 105 like. Not like the questions or even topic spread was the same. But like 105 in the sense that I was like wtf?! On half the questions.

Just got out. Same dude. Wtf. You read these threads and can't believe it's that bad. I had six questions on a specific phys mintutiae that isn't in first aid. Googled it at my break. Thank God I did got three more questions on it

Yupp I read the threads, talked to the (minority) of my classmates who have taken it. Still didn’t prepare me for exactly how awful it was.

If you made a 513 on Form 105 I'd say you should get 550 or higher. The 105 reminded me of the real thing.

Agree. To the poster you’re answering, you are good.

Lol did anyone else not finish all the questions in a block on Comlex? Was surprised how much time played into that exam, even more than difficulty of content

I used the entire time. Had to do very quick reviews of flagged questions on the last section of each session, and felt like I was racing the clock all day. Time was definitely a factor but I finished all the questions.

I hope so. I'm more of a bottom third of class type of person and want to do FM, so literally just want to pass this thing and move on. It was such a **** show. Took the 105 6 weeks ago, shoulda taken LEVEL 1 5 weeks ago.

I feel this. I’m probably in the 3rd quartile. (Though they haven’t sent out the final class ranking yet). I have ambitions for primary care, preferably IM but FM would be okay. At this point just praying to pass. Even though even that would still mean I was eliminated from applying to many of the residencies I’m potentially interested in, including the big IM program at my core hospital which has a 500 minimum. Ugh.
 
Same! I just took it today. That was a literal nightmare. Like everything about it. Long, early day. At the test center 7:20-5:00pm. The questions were long and weird. Overall just f**king awful.



100% agree. Unfortunately it felt very 105 like. Not like the questions or even topic spread was the same. But like 105 in the sense that I was like wtf?! On half the questions.



Yupp I read the threads, talked to the (minority) of my classmates who have taken it. Still didn’t prepare me for exactly how awful it was.



Agree. To the poster you’re answering, you are good.



I used the entire time. Had to do very quick reviews of flagged questions on the last section of each session, and felt like I was racing the clock all day. Time was definitely a factor but I finished all the questions.



I feel this. I’m probably in the 3rd quartile. (Though they haven’t sent out the final class ranking yet). I have ambitions for primary care, preferably IM but FM would be okay. At this point just praying to pass. Even though even that would still mean I was eliminated from applying to many of the residencies I’m potentially interested in, including the big IM program at my core hospital which has a 500 minimum. Ugh.
The second half I timed myself I just don’t know how I spaced out that much, I felt decent enough overall, First aid micro was like the Bible. I just hope losing 35-40 by not even answering won’t fail me
 
The second half I timed myself I just don’t know how I spaced out that much, I felt decent enough overall, First aid micro was like the Bible. I just hope losing 35-40 by not even answering won’t fail me

Like you didn’t even get to “Christmas tree” blind click something?
 
Like you didn’t even get to “Christmas tree” blind click something?
Lol I was determined to like answer right at the expense of time. Like just bad call. Should have skipped the ethics and just chose and moved on, instead spent like 3-5 min on a few trying to reason stuff I hadn’t seen. Early morning and nerves. Otherwise tho I will say to people on here that FA and COMBANK/QUEST covered 90% of what I saw. Very few surprises except the timing. Very micro heavy
 
Just took it today here’s my take. Preface: middle 1/3 student. Very average nbme/UW scores (didn’t do any comlex practice stuff). Had 3 days between usmle and comlex.

Overall: Test was fair I think but def had a lot more wtf moments than step had. But that’s probably expected with 120 extra questions. Timing is brutal. Way more tough than step. You basically have no time to review. Not kidding I think I was able to go back and legit review maybe 10/400 questions. I always finish in time but I never had more than like 4-5 mins. I’d honestly rather take step again than ever take comlex. So exhausting that extra hour and break time spread is so much more brutal. It’s 100% that you will get the same topic more than once. I had 3-4 questions that were exactly the same stem even the same little video but just the last sentence was a different question than last time. Also just had totally different questions but the answer was the same. Step wasn’t like that at all for me.

OMM: total joke. I was really nervous bc I only watched the OMGOMT videos on 2x and took some notes. Didn’t touch the green book or even any anki on omm. Omgomt was plenty. Got me 90% of the questions. Kept reviewing my one page of notes in breaks and it got me a question each block. Very surface level except maybe like 2. 50% of omm was visceosimatica for me so know it. Not a single counter strain, 1 chapman, and 2 cranial. Had a decent amount of rib and sacrum and just like knowing the principle of basic techniques.

Micro: my god know every bug in sketchy and FA like the back of your hand. 25-30% of my exam was micro and/or micro stem but question was about the drug or Moa if drug to treat it. Protozoa,fungi, parasite, zoonotics HY.

Systems path: 80% Very buzzwordy and way easy compared to step. Then 20% was like wtf you gave me one sentence how tf can I diagnose anything?? Lol. Mine has a lot of cardio, GI, respiratory. “Next step” questions pretty tough and way harder than what I saw on step. A few ekgs. Nothing crazy tho but I have had friends who apparently had a ton of wild ekg questions so idk.

Msk: palsies, dermatomes, neuropathies mostly.

Biochem: butthurt bc I thought comlex biochem was harder than step lol. Step was pretty classic UW biochem topics and comlex was to for like 80% but def a few head turner ones.

Neuro: pretty comparable to step maybe a little harder. Had a lot of rule of 4 locate the lesion. Didn’t have any on step surprisingly.

PHYS: Cardio, respiratory galore. Not much endocrine and renal compared to step

Pharm: sketchy good for most but some **** was wtf. Had a MOA of a drug question and I googled it on my break and it said MOA is unknown so that question can suck it lol. Also had a question about a treatment that had (according to FA/sketchy) multiple right answers unless I read the question wrong.

Bioethic: pretty tough. It was a joke on step. But had like 3x as many questions and some scenarios I’ve never seen. No way to prepare just use your instinct lol.

Biostats: Basic equations we all know and know your studybdesigns. suprisingly had way more higher order statistical and research/data protocol type questions than on step and DOs aren’t exactly known for research lol.

Other: genetic was pretty high yeild but emphasized diff things than step. Immuno was very rare in my comlex. Like 2 questions. But in step immuno was one of the heaviest subjects hit. Felt like there was basically no general molecular stuff on there really. Comlex uses a lot more random tests, stains, markers than are not in UfAPs and you’ve never heard of in your life lol. But I think they are mostly irrelevant to actually answer the question. Histo, smears, scans way more abundant on comlex and way less revealing. Half the time I’m like what is this? Lol.
 
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Just took it today here’s my take. Preface: middle 1/3 student. Very average nbme/UW scores (didn’t do any comlex practice stuff). Had 3 days between usmle and comlex.

Overall: Test was fair I think but def had a lot more wtf moments than step had. But that’s probably expected with 120 extra questions. Timing is brutal. Way more tough than step. You basically have no time to review. Not kidding I think I was able to go back and legit review maybe 10/400 questions. I always finish in time but I never had more than like 4-5 mins. I’d honestly rather take step again than ever take comlex. So exhausting that extra hour and break time spread is so much more brutal. It’s 100% that you will get the same topic more than once. I had 3-4 questions that were exactly the same stem even the same little video but just the last sentence was a different question than last time. Also just had totally different questions but the answer was the same. Step wasn’t like that at all for me.

OMM: total joke. I was really nervous bc I only watched the OMGOMT videos on 2x and took some notes. Didn’t touch the green book or even any anki on omm. Omgomt was plenty. Got me 90% of the questions. Kept reviewing my one page of notes in breaks and it got me a question each block. Very surface level except maybe like 2. 50% of omm was visceosimatica for me so know it. Not a single counter strain, 1 chapman, and 2 cranial. Had a decent amount of rib and sacrum and just like knowing the principle of basic techniques.

Micro: my god know every bug in sketchy and FA like the back of your hand. 25-30% of my exam was micro and/or micro stem but question was about the drug or Moa if drug to treat it. Protozoa,fungi, parasite, zoonotics HY.

Systems path: 80% Very buzzwordy and way easy compared to step. Then 20% was like wtf you gave me one sentence how tf can I diagnose anything?? Lol. Mine has a lot of cardio, GI, respiratory. “Next step” questions pretty tough and way harder than what I saw on step. A few ekgs. Nothing crazy tho but I have had friends who apparently had a ton of wild ekg questions so idk.

Msk: palsies, dermatomes, neuropathies mostly.

Biochem: butthurt bc I thought comlex biochem was harder than step lol. Step was pretty classic UW biochem topics and comlex was to for like 80% but def a few head turner ones.

Neuro: pretty comparable to step maybe a little harder. Had a lot of rule of 4 locate the lesion. Didn’t have any on step surprisingly.

PHYS: Cardio, respiratory galore. Not much endocrine and renal compared to step

Pharm: sketchy good for most but some **** was wtf. Had a MOA of a drug question and I googled it on my break and it said MOA is unknown so that question can suck it lol. Also had a question about a treatment that had (according to FA/sketchy) multiple right answers unless I read the question wrong.

Bioethic: pretty tough. It was a joke on step. But had like 3x as many questions and some scenarios I’ve never seen. No way to prepare just use your instinct lol.

Biostats: Basic equations we all know and know your studybdesigns. suprisingly had way more higher order statistical and research/data protocol type questions than on step and DOs aren’t exactly known for research lol.

Other: genetic was pretty high yeild but emphasized diff things than step. Immuno was very rare in my comlex. Like 2 questions. But in step immuno was one of the heaviest subjects hit. Felt like there was basically no general molecular stuff on there really. Comlex uses a lot more random tests, stains, markers than are not in UfAPs and you’ve never heard of in your life lol. But I think they are mostly irrelevant to actually answer the question. Histo, smears, scans way more abundant on comlex and way less revealing. Half the time I’m like what is this? Lol.


You and I had VERY different systems path portions of the exam. Maybe a few buzzwords at all in my 400 (could be accounted for by my incompetence). Everything else was pretty spot on. Was not well enough prepared for the biochem, thats for sure. Expected more straight forward lysosomal stuff or deficiencies. Not the case
 
I feel this. I’m probably in the 3rd quartile. (Though they haven’t sent out the final class ranking yet). I have ambitions for primary care, preferably IM but FM would be okay. At this point just praying to pass. Even though even that would still mean I was eliminated from applying to many of the residencies I’m potentially interested in, including the big IM program at my core hospital which has a 500 minimum. Ugh.
If someone will come up with a version of FA for comlex that will have all the wtf, obscure and weird never heard/seen bugs/drugs reviewed - he will probably make a fortune, as I think every DO student will buy it.
 
Lol I was determined to like answer right at the expense of time. Like just bad call. Should have skipped the ethics and just chose and moved on, instead spent like 3-5 min on a few trying to reason stuff I hadn’t seen. Early morning and nerves. Otherwise tho I will say to people on here that FA and COMBANK/QUEST covered 90% of what I saw. Very few surprises except the timing. Very micro heavy
I wonder almost the fact I got to double check everything made up for missing 30 outright. With 400 Qs how many rushed / guesses compare to losing the 30, maybe would
have gotten like 15 of those
 
If someone will come up with a version of FA for comlex that will have all the wtf, obscure and weird never heard/seen bugs/drugs reviewed - he will probably make a fortune, as I think every DO student will buy it.

They can have a bunch of random made up of disease questions like this,

A male patient comes the ER with a green-purple lacy rash on is right nipple and complains 14.2 pounds of weight loss over the past 92.1 days. PMH includes diabetes, pigeon bite fever, 195.6 pack year smoker, and he reports "chugging 10 Four Locos" on friday night every week to get "lit". Which of the following is the most likley the cause of the patients rash?

A- Haemophilus Influenza
B- Martian Fever
C- HHV 92
D- Cocaine Usage
E- Lead poisoning
F- Penile Cancer


*Note - not actually a question that was on the COMLEX. lol.
 
They can have a bunch of random made up of disease questions like this,

A male patient comes the ER with a green-purple lacy rash on is right nipple and complains 14.2 pounds of weight loss over the past 92.1 days. PMH includes diabetes, pigeon bite fever, 195.6 pack year smoker, and he reports "chugging 10 Four Locos" on friday night every week to get "lit". Which of the following is the most likley the cause of the patients rash?

A- Haemophilus Influenza
B- Martian Fever
C- HHV 92
D- Cocaine Usage
E- Lead poisoning
F- Penile Cancer


*Note - not actually a question that was on the COMLEX. lol.

Haha yup. This is in fact not an exaggeration. Fixed it for ya:


A male patient comes the ER with a green-purple lacy rash on is right nipple and complains 14.2 pounds of weight loss over the past 92.1 days. PMH includes diabetes, pigeon bite fever, 195.6 pack year smoker, and he reports "chugging 10 Four Locos" on friday night every week to get "lit". Medications include pertuzumab, lumilixumab, Domperidone, and Xylometazoline AND were recently incarcerated in Thailand. Which of the following is the most likley the cause of the patients rash?

A- Haemophilus Influenza
B- Martian Fever
C- HHV 92
D- Cocaine Usage
E- Lead poisoning
F- Penile Cancer

G-Drug-drug interaction
H-Somatic dysfunction


*Note - not actually a question that was on the COMLEX. lol.
 
Haha yup. This is in fact not an exaggeration. Fixed it for ya:


A male patient comes the ER with a green-purple lacy rash on is right nipple and complains 14.2 pounds of weight loss over the past 92.1 days. PMH includes diabetes, pigeon bite fever, 195.6 pack year smoker, and he reports "chugging 10 Four Locos" on friday night every week to get "lit". Medications include pertuzumab, lumilixumab, Domperidone, and Xylometazoline AND were recently incarcerated in Thailand. Which of the following is the most likley the cause of the patients rash?

A- Haemophilus Influenza
B- Martian Fever
C- HHV 92
D- Cocaine Usage
E- Lead poisoning
F- Penile Cancer

G-Drug-drug interaction
H-Somatic dysfunction


*Note - not actually a question that was on the COMLEX. lol.
Gives me PTSD from the real thing, that's for sure
 
God, reading this thread is traumatizing. Is it still possible to pass with UFAP and green book? Desperate for just a 400.
While it's no doubt new comlex has changed and people are traumatized, I'm still confident that UFAPS + green book is enough to pass. If this wasn't the case - we would see tons of people fail this year and possibly next one too. Eventually mobs of angry students with huge debts will gather and march to overthrow NBOME and burn it down to ground and scatter the ashes to the wind including the last remnants holy grail bones of AT Still himself. I believe NBOME doesn't want that fate so I have faith in them to be reasonable and give us a good scoring curve for everyone! :shy:
 
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While it's no doubt new comlex has changed and people are traumatized, I'm still confident that UFAPS + green book is enough to pass. If this wasn't the case - we would see tons of people fail this year and possibly next one too. Eventually mobs of angry students with huge debts will gather and march to overthrow NBOME and burn it down to ground and scatter the ashes to the wind including the last remnants holy grail bones of AT Still himself. I believe NBOME doesn't want that fate so I have faith in them to be reasonable and give us a good scoring curve for everyone!

Very wise. There has got to be a curve and those weird questions no one knows will be a luck game that can help differentiate 500 from 600+. Everyone I have talked to have done UFAP + green book and I hope that will be enough to not fail.
 
Very wise. There has got to be a curve and those weird questions no one knows will be a luck game that can help differentiate 500 from 600+. Everyone I have talked to have done UFAP + green book and I hope that will be enough to not fail.
Green book should set be good for most of the OMM, at least for my exam. The Videos waste time but are clear
 
I wonder almost the fact I got to double check everything made up for missing 30 outright. With 400 Qs how many rushed / guesses compare to losing the 30, maybe would
have gotten like 15 of those
Just hoping that in some way that might translate to at least 500. My most recent comsae was 103 and score 513
 
Haha yup. This is in fact not an exaggeration. Fixed it for ya:


A male patient comes the ER with a green-purple lacy rash on is right nipple and complains 14.2 pounds of weight loss over the past 92.1 days. PMH includes diabetes, pigeon bite fever, 195.6 pack year smoker, and he reports "chugging 10 Four Locos" on friday night every week to get "lit". Medications include pertuzumab, lumilixumab, Domperidone, and Xylometazoline AND were recently incarcerated in Thailand. Which of the following is the most likley the cause of the patients rash?

A- Haemophilus Influenza
B- Martian Fever
C- HHV 92
D- Cocaine Usage
E- Lead poisoning
F- Penile Cancer

G-Drug-drug interaction
H-Somatic dysfunction


*Note - not actually a question that was on the COMLEX. lol.
The answer is obviously H- Somatic Dysfunction!😉
 
Very wise. There has got to be a curve and those weird questions no one knows will be a luck game that can help differentiate 500 from 600+. Everyone I have talked to have done UFAP + green book and I hope that will be enough to not fail.

Honestly OMM was probably the easiest part of my exam. The hardest parts were the low-yield irrelevant micro & the ethics.
 
Same at my school. Which maybe I'm thankful for? Feels gross typing that out

Haha I feel you. Like I wish I didn’t spend time and effort on it during preclinical, but on the other hand literally the only thing I did during dedicated for OPP was look at my schools viscerosomatics and Chapman points charts for 5 mins the night before my exam, and again for 45 seconds on my lunch break.
 
Unsure. We will find out around July 15th when the first scores drop. All we know is that "the passing score" could be changed.
It’s just a bummer like u don’t want to believe it’s as bad as people say but it is almost lol. Mainly just the format and # of questions. Most content might be Doable but its presented incongruently to the time given.
 
I highly encourage everyone to put something about the time in the feedback (respectfully, of course. Or disrespectfully, I don't care). I'm probably top 20% in test taking speed (arbitrary number but still) and I had to do probably about 70 questions based off of simply scanning for buzzwords and going with my gut. Not counting the ones where you read and analyze and still just send it with a gut feeling anyways.
 
I think there is a 0.2% chance that they actually care enough to look at those survey responses.

They already got that $$$.
Who wants to start taking bets on whether or not the NBOME “listens to our feedback” about time and exam length and announces that the level 1 exam will now be a 2 day exam.
 
I think there is a 0.2% chance that they actually care enough to look at those survey responses.

They already got that $$$.

I agree with this, but if they have 75% of takers saying the same thing they're gonna have a hard time defending any decisions to make it any worse...this is imagining a world where there is actually accountability, oversight and a quality improvement method up at NBOME HQ.
 
HELP! My exam is tomorrow and I don't know how the breaks work. Do we have access to our lockers/notes for the 10min and 40min lunch breaks?? Can we have our phone/notes in our locker then? Can't find this info on prometric or nbome sites.
Thanks!
 
this is imagining a world where there is actually accountability, oversight and a quality improvement method up at NBOME HQ.

What is this magical world you speak of?
I mean if they didn’t care at all then why make the new blueprint at all?


Because they are trying to stay relevant.
 
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