Apr 30, 2019
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Hi All! Starting a thread since I did not see any for this cycle.
I was recently accepted into CSUEB's PHAP program for the AET/Track-II path (I'm pre-PA). I wanted to see if anyone has accepted their admissions? And if any current or graduated students from the program have feedback on if CSUEB PHAP truly made them a more competitive applicant or not?

I am currently on the fence since program is expensive (~18k for 1 year/10 courses minimum as required for the certificate) but I do need to re-take some pre-reqs and CSUEB offers the most flexible course selections/times and the letter of evaluation upon completion of the program seems very promising. I know retaking pre-reqs at a CC would be much cheaper but I'm concerned about the schedule of classes since I am hoping to be working part-time to get some clinical hours in.

Any feedback would be great.
 
Aug 4, 2019
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Hey! I am starting the PHAP program this fall, also on the Academic Enhancer track. I would also like to know whether the program made them a more competitive applicant. I would also love advice on anything else you did to help with your application and how to gain more outside non-academic (volunteering, research).
 
May 15, 2019
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Hey! I am starting the PHAP program this fall, also on the Academic Enhancer track. I would also like to know whether the program made them a more competitive applicant. I would also love advice on anything else you did to help with your application and how to gain more outside non-academic (volunteering, research).
hows the program going?
 
Aug 4, 2019
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hows the program going?
Sorry for the very late response! So far the program is going well, they have a lot more resources then I realized and I would recommend applying if you are looking for a post-bacc program. It has only been 2 months, but I'll write updates periodically. It seems that they have connections to great schools which is good. They offer a lot of opportunities to network as well. They offer a good range of classes that are exactly what is needed for applying to med school. I'm excited about it
 

cgr0y22

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May 9, 2014
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Hi Everyone,

I wanted to post on this thread because it's the most recent one about CSUEB's phap program. I applied back in August for Spring 2020. It sounds like this program has A LOT of resources for their students which I really value. Especially since I recently changed from pre-physical therapy to pre-med.

I was wondering how long did it take you to hear back from the program? Also if you guys have any advice about the program in general, like what are resources you wish you took advantage of? Really anything would be appreciated :) Thank you!
 
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bearinawhitecoat

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Hi Everyone,

I wanted to post on this thread because it's the most recent one about CSUEB's phap program. I applied back in August for Spring 2020. It sounds like this program has A LOT of resources for their students which I really value. Especially since I recently changed from pre-physical therapy to pre-med.

I was wondering how long did it take you to hear back from the program? Also if you guys have any advice about the program in general, like what are resources you wish you took advantage of? Really anything would be appreciated :) Thank you!
Hi ! I recently submitted an application to them and am waiting to see if I got accepted or not. I was wondering if you mind sharing your stats for acceptance? I've had an up and down undergrad but overall should be 3.2 . Also, did you receive an acceptance yet? Thanks ^_^
 
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Sep 24, 2019
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Hey all, I applied for Spring 2020 too! Applied 9/25 & still waiting to hear back. I'd love to hear more about the program from anyone with experience. I can't really find much about what they offer other than having separate classes for post-bacc students.

Does the program offer anything in terms of shadowing/volunteering? I saw a website for a clinic set up by PHAP students -- is that still active?
 

cgr0y22

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May 9, 2014
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Hi ! I recently submitted an application to them and am waiting to see if I got accepted or not. I was wondering if you mind sharing your stats for acceptance? I've had an up and down undergrad but overall should be 3.2 . Also, did you receive an acceptance yet? Thanks ^_^
Didn't get accepted yet, but fingers crossed! I called the PHAP office mid-October to follow up on my application. They said they were having conflicts in scheduling the committee together to review applications. The office told me to follow up with them in 2 weeks which marks tomorrow. Interestingly enough if you don't follow the CSUEB PHAP FB page someone posted that they just got accepted last week for Spring 2020 so I have a feeling we all should be hearing back in the near future.

That's all the information I can gather for patiently waiting XD

Coincidently my stats are the same as yours. I got a 3.2 in undergrad with finally getting my act together my last two years of college lol

Hope you hear good news soon and become future colleagues!
 
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cgr0y22

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Hey all, I applied for Spring 2020 too! Applied 9/25 & still waiting to hear back. I'd love to hear more about the program from anyone with experience. I can't really find much about what they offer other than having separate classes for post-bacc students.

Does the program offer anything in terms of shadowing/volunteering? I saw a website for a clinic set up by PHAP students -- is that still active?
Hey darkbidder,

Don't have experience since I'm a prospective applicant but I've been following their CSUEB PHAP FB page for quite some time and I'm really surprised how active the admin is on there. They're tutors, mentors, admin, posting about events, or which programs are coming to CSUEB for you to connect/network, people posting jobs relating to healthcare, applying etc. That's why I think CSUEB's community is extremely resourceful. If you'd like you can join it and browse their page, their FB admin has to approve you but I don't think it would be any problem. I joined the group when I was applying so I think it's for anyone who is in the program, interested, or prospective applicants like us.
 
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Sep 24, 2019
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Hey darkbidder,

Don't have experience since I'm a prospective applicant but I've been following their CSUEB PHAP FB page for quite some time and I'm really surprised how active the admin is on there. They're tutors, mentors, admin, posting about events, or which programs are coming to CSUEB for you to connect/network, people posting jobs relating to healthcare, applying etc. That's why I think CSUEB's community is extremely resourceful. If you'd like you can join it and browse their page, their FB admin has to approve you but I don't think it would be any problem. I joined the group when I was applying so I think it's for anyone who is in the program, interested, or prospective applicants like us.
I found the FB page a while back but I assumed it was for admitted students only lol. That's why I've been almost obsessively checking other websites for more info. I'll go check it out, thanks!!
 

bearinawhitecoat

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Jul 21, 2017
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Didn't get accepted yet, but fingers crossed! I called the PHAP office mid-October to follow up on my application. They said they were having conflicts in scheduling the committee together to review applications. The office told me to follow up with them in 2 weeks which marks tomorrow. Interestingly enough if you don't follow the CSUEB PHAP FB page someone posted that they just got accepted last week for Spring 2020 so I have a feeling we all should be hearing back in the near future.

That's all the information I can gather for patiently waiting XD

Coincidently my stats are the same as yours. I got a 3.2 in undergrad with finally getting my act together my last two years of college lol

Hope you hear good news soon and become future colleagues!
Didn't get accepted yet, but fingers crossed! I called the PHAP office mid-October to follow up on my application. They said they were having conflicts in scheduling the committee together to review applications. The office told me to follow up with them in 2 weeks which marks tomorrow. Interestingly enough if you don't follow the CSUEB PHAP FB page someone posted that they just got accepted last week for Spring 2020 so I have a feeling we all should be hearing back in the near future.

That's all the information I can gather for patiently waiting XD

Coincidently my stats are the same as yours. I got a 3.2 in undergrad with finally getting my act together my last two years of college lol

Hope you hear good news soon and become future colleagues!
when did you submit your application ? I’m thinking of calling them but then again I submitted my application October 19 and on the applicant status it says they’re reviewing it and will lmk but idk how long it’s been saying that since I stopped checking everyday. The anxiety it gives me uh
 
Mar 12, 2019
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when did you submit your application ? I’m thinking of calling them but then again I submitted my application October 19 and on the applicant status it says they’re reviewing it and will lmk but idk how long it’s been saying that since I stopped checking everyday. The anxiety it gives me uh
I’m on the same boat as you. I’ve been complete since early October as well


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cgr0y22

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May 9, 2014
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when did you submit your application ? I’m thinking of calling them but then again I submitted my application October 19 and on the applicant status it says they’re reviewing it and will lmk but idk how long it’s been saying that since I stopped checking everyday. The anxiety it gives me uh

I submitted my application back late August. When I followed up with them they just told me to keep checking mycsueb. I'm still waiting. I definitely understand because I've been anxious about it since August LOL
 

bearinawhitecoat

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Jul 21, 2017
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I submitted my application back late August. When I followed up with them they just told me to keep checking mycsueb. I'm still waiting. I definitely understand because I've been anxious about it since August LOL
I saw from the fb group that spring classes are already available (nov 3rd) to the existing students there . Hopefully we’ll hear back soon!
 
Sep 24, 2019
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I saw from the fb group that spring classes are already available (nov 3rd) to the existing students there . Hopefully we’ll hear back soon!
I just checked the class schedule & a lot of the classes are closed/full. Now I'm even more stressed out lol
 

bearinawhitecoat

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Okay so I contacted the office of admissions graduate office and she said the admissions are released /people are notified late in the game like a week before school starts type of late
 
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Okay so I contacted the office of admissions graduate office and she said the admissions are released /people are notified late in the game like a week before school starts type of late
Well that sucks for those of us who need to find living arrangements and leave jobs :/


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bearinawhitecoat

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Jul 21, 2017
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But the person who picked up was a student as well so it’s kind of unreliable ? Because according to the “how to apply” document, it’ll take a total of 8-10 weeks for the entire application process. But I know my applicant status changed from “applicant being processed” to “applicant being reviewed by committee “ on October 30/31. So it should take two to four weeks to give me a decision or not. Hopefully they’ll contact us by then fingers crossed!
 
Sep 24, 2019
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Okay so I contacted the office of admissions graduate office and she said the admissions are released /people are notified late in the game like a week before school starts type of late
What the heck that's insane.. How are new students going to even sign up for classes that late & I live in socal so I'd have to scramble to find housing
 
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bearinawhitecoat

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Hey guys!

I wrapped up my time at PHAP this past May as a pre-med academic enhancer. I can try and answer any questions you have!

As far as when the office gets back to you re: decisions -- I started in winter quarter of 2018 (back when CSUEB was on quarters). I just checked my email and I was admitted on 11/27/17 and I applied around 9/25/17.

Yes, decisions can come as late as the week before classes begin. Yes, a lot of classes are probably starting to fill up. PHAP continues to add classes as the beginning of the semester approaches - so there's still hope. They'll also probably open up some 7-week courses shortly (some of the courses are only 7 weeks long. After switching to the semester system, and for only a few classes per semester, PHAP split the semester into two 7-week long sessions. I know students who took a total of 4 courses during a semester by taking two 7-week courses in the first half of the semester, and two 7-week courses in the second half). There should almost certainly be space! I personally don't know anyone who wasn't able to fill their schedule. There also tends to be significant waitlist movement for courses, so make sure you add yourself to the list during registration! You'll be given priority registration with the rest of the students once you've completed a semester in the program.

Your best resource is the Facebook group. I found the administration to be generally helpful, but I definitely got most of the details I needed via the Facebook group. You should absolutely join the group.

I really enjoyed my time at PHAP. Not a flex, but if it's any solace, I entered the program with a 3.18 cumulative GPA and I'm super thankful to have gained 7 MD acceptances - one of which is my top choice at a top 20 school.

Ask any and all questions and I'll try to be as helpful as possible!
7 MD?! Did the school help Prep you / guide you during applications and interviews? Also, congratulations !!
 

bearinawhitecoat

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Jul 21, 2017
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Hey guys!

I wrapped up my time at PHAP this past May as a pre-med academic enhancer. I can try and answer any questions you have!

As far as when the office gets back to you re: decisions -- I started in winter quarter of 2018 (back when CSUEB was on quarters). I just checked my email and I was admitted on 11/27/17 and I applied around 9/25/17.

Yes, decisions can come as late as the week before classes begin. Yes, a lot of classes are probably starting to fill up. PHAP continues to add classes as the beginning of the semester approaches - so there's still hope. They'll also probably open up some 7-week courses shortly (some of the courses are only 7 weeks long. After switching to the semester system, and for only a few classes per semester, PHAP split the semester into two 7-week long sessions. I know students who took a total of 4 courses during a semester by taking two 7-week courses in the first half of the semester, and two 7-week courses in the second half). There should almost certainly be space! I personally don't know anyone who wasn't able to fill their schedule. There also tends to be significant waitlist movement for courses, so make sure you add yourself to the list during registration! You'll be given priority registration with the rest of the students once you've completed a semester in the program.

Your best resource is the Facebook group. I found the administration to be generally helpful, but I definitely got most of the details I needed via the Facebook group. You should absolutely join the group.

I really enjoyed my time at PHAP. Not a flex, but if it's any solace, I entered the program with a 3.18 cumulative GPA and I'm super thankful to have gained 7 MD acceptances - one of which is my top choice at a top 20 school.

Ask any and all questions and I'll try to be as helpful as possible!
Also do you mind releasing the school list you’ve applied to? If not it’s cool ty for sharing anyway !
 
Sep 24, 2019
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@BadWahn Would you say the program is helpful for advising and letters of recommendation? I went to a UC school so I have like 0 LOR's and there wasn't a pre-med committee/advisors.

Are there any PHAP-specific clinical volunteer/job opportunities? I saw posts on the FB group for some but I was just wondering if most people do their own thing outside of class or are there any official/unofficial clubs?

Also, do most students live near the Hayward or Concord campus & off-campus or on-campus? Just thinking ahead because I don't know how late I'll find out about my acceptance decision. I commuted from home during undergrad but this is new for me bc I would have to move to attend the program.
 
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Sep 23, 2019
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Hey guys, I am also applied to the PHAP program for the following spring semester and I was wondering @BadWahn how were the classes? to idk assuming you went to UC?
 

BadWahn

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7 MD?! Did the school help Prep you / guide you during applications and interviews? Also, congratulations !!
Thanks!

There's a seminar class that is required for a committee letter. In the second semester, the class revolves around writing personal statements and keeping on track to finish applications in a timely manner. The seminar also covers the basic logistics of the application process and general tips for the application itself.

There's also a required interview for the committee letter. I'm not sure what it's like for dental letters, but for medical school, it was a quasi-MMI situation with three faculty members. After the interview, they give you immediate feedback for interviews in the future.

Aside from that, I learned a lot from setting up appointments with a PHAP adviser. He went over my application with me and we looked at historical trends concerning where PHAP students have had success/where I would fit given my stats. I relied a lot on my classmates/sdn/reddit as well.
 
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@BadWahn Would you say the program is helpful for advising and letters of recommendation? I went to a UC school so I have like 0 LOR's and there wasn't a pre-med committee/advisors.

Are there any PHAP-specific clinical volunteer/job opportunities? I saw posts on the FB group for some but I was just wondering if most people do their own thing outside of class or are there any official/unofficial clubs?

Also, do most students live near the Hayward or Concord campus & off-campus or on-campus? Just thinking ahead because I don't know how late I'll find out about my acceptance decision. I commuted from home during undergrad but this is new for me bc I would have to move to attend the program.
I mentioned the committee letter in another reply -- If you fulfill a certain number of course requirements, and meet a certain GPA/MCAT score, you're eligible for a committee interview and letter.

I graduated from college a while ago and I had lost touch with all of my previous professors. The PHAP professors were all super approachable and happy to work with students and write them letters of rec.

There are also 4 or so faculty members who are designated advisors for the program -- appointments are on a first-come first-serve basis. I never had an issue scheduling and I thought they provided honest, thorough, applicable feedback.

As far as jobs/clinical opportunities... Facebook is your best bet. As you've seen, the other students are super helpful about sharing that information and helping each other out. The program also has an official Blackboard site where they post opportunities as they come into the office. I think students do their own thing outside of class (a lot of students work part-time and volunteer at clinics throughout the Bay). There ARE some official PHAP clubs on campus - I wasn't a member of any, but I know that they're active and always looking to recruit people. Again, you can find a lot of them on the Facebook group.

Most students who moved for the program live around Hayward - the university does not provide student housing for PHAP students. I knew of a few students who lived in Concord, but most classes are offered at Hayward, hence why most students live in Hayward. I think the vast majority of students commutes. The university provides a shuttle to/from BART at both the main campus in Hayward and the Concord campus. Hayward is about 2.5 hours away from Concord via public transit, and 45 minutes to an hour drive (depending on traffic). Depending on your status (academic enhancer vs career changer) I think it's actually possible to take all of your classes strictly at the Concord campus. It's waaaaay easier to park at Concord and the campus isn't nearly as busy. Which can be nice. Having said that, I think the Concord campus is mostly home to elective courses, so it works best for academic enhancers.
 
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Hey guys, I am also applied to the PHAP program for the following spring semester and I was wondering @BadWahn how were the classes? to idk assuming you went to UC?
Classes were great. I actually went to college back east at a pretty rigorous institution. I found the classes at PHAP to be entirely manageable. The professors make you work, but they're also super accommodating and want to see you succeed. I had to finish up chemistry and physics at PHAP. The chemistry class was every bit as intense as my undergraduate school - but the professor was truly amazing and motivated the entire class to perform well. Physics on the other hand..... was a dud. Totally self-driven learning, but whatever.

There are some professors/classes who are notorious for being difficult, but they're all great and push you to learn. (Everyone at PHAP knows the classes/professors I'm talking about -- ask around and you'll find out -- and everyone is super collaborative in those courses). I took two such classes and ended up just fine. It just took dedication and effort. Nothing OBSCENELY difficult though.
 
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bearinawhitecoat

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Thanks!

There's a seminar class that is required for a committee letter. In the second semester, the class revolves around writing personal statements and keeping on track to finish applications in a timely manner. The seminar also covers the basic logistics of the application process and general tips for the application itself.

There's also a required interview for the committee letter. I'm not sure what it's like for dental letters, but for medical school, it was a quasi-MMI situation with three faculty members. After the interview, they give you immediate feedback for interviews in the future.

Aside from that, I learned a lot from setting up appointments with a PHAP adviser. He went over my application with me and we looked at historical trends concerning where PHAP students have had success/where I would fit given my stats. I relied a lot on my classmates/sdn/reddit as well.
Cries. Thank you for replying cross my fingers I get in !
 
Sep 24, 2019
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@BadWahn The program sounds like exactly what I'm looking for! So you say that the committee letter requires a certain MCAT.. I have 2 expired MCAT scores but I'm planning on retaking it in April 2021 because I'm applying in 2021. Is it possible to get the letter after graduating (Dec 2020 in my case)?

Thanks for all the info!!
 
Sep 23, 2019
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@BadWahn another question, so you mentioned that you were accepted for the winter quarter which roughly started around January of 2018, did you take your MCAT and apply during the same year, like were you still taking classes while applying and you just did academic updates to your portal for MD school or did you apply after you were done with classes?

I ask because I am planning to take my DAT during March and apply in June of 2020 and fingers crossed get in school by 2021 and am not sure how this is going to work