Official MCW Class of 2009 Thread

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akpete said:
Wasn't that in a lecture last block? Can't remember. Something about a guy moving up to management, but he can't hack it. Thinks he has ADD or something. I feel like that guy. 🙁
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That's the Peter Principle - the concept that everybody will be promoted to one position past their highest level of competency (and thus flounder at the level of higher responsibility and not earn any more promotions). I often wonder on days like this if it applies to me...
 
Gimlet said:
That's the Peter Principle - the concept that everybody will be promoted to one position past their highest level of competency (and thus flounder at the level of higher responsibility and not earn any more promotions). I often wonder on days like this if it applies to me...
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I think you've got at least one more level to go. Bomb out during your internship and make it really interesting.
 
DoctorFunk said:
I think you've got at least one more level to go. Bomb out during your internship and make it really interesting.
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It figures that internship would be the first level where people will die because of my Peter principle fulfillment.
 
Gimlet said:
It figures that internship would be the first level where people will die because of my Peter principle fulfillment.
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Eh, I'll be right there with ya. Good news = we'll have access to drugs. 😉
 
Good luck today, kids!😍(sending loving vibes your way)
 
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Translation: It's on like Donkey Kong.
 
i hear they are gonna put Chlorpropheneloxatine on the exam...make sure you know it
 
pratik7 said:
i hear they are gonna put Chlorpropheneloxatine on the exam...make sure you know it
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I hear I'm going to be putting sildenafil in your lunch. Make sure you eat it.
 
And I say unto you, Class of 2009, that he shall-ah return-ah! And his return will leave you weeping at his feet-ah, glorying in his wit and candor! His return shall be sudden and graphic, and shall bring unto you, oh Class of 2009, a new day of wonder and revelation. Ah.

He shall return, and I am only here to prepare his path.
 
Congrats kids!! One more.
 
Xandie said:
Congrats kids!! One more.
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You are the wind beneath my wings.

No, but seriously, thanks for the encouragement. Every little bit counts.
 
People used to tell me that I looked like Bette. Also Amy Irving... I think people are distracted by the curly hair.

You guys only have Path left, yeah? It's worth what, like two percent of your grade? Let the drinking begin! (I'm drinking Fanta, for the record).
 
Anybody else just feel really angry after an exam? I'm always just so pissed when I get home.
 
wow, you guys are one last little step away from being done with the basic sciences. You're almost M3s, wow. I'll just be glad not to tell people that I'm a first year med student. I probably won't feel any smarter next year though 😛
 
Looks like there's still some hope for your potential future specialty, Funk:

AMA Morning Rounds said:
Angioplasty is better than drug treatment in asymptomatic patients, study concludes. The Los Angeles Times (5/9, Maugh II) reports that "angioplasty is significantly better than intensive drug treatment for patients who have had a heart attack and still have partially blocked arteries that impair blood flow to the heart but do not cause symptoms," according to a study in today's Journal of the American Medical Association. "Reopening the arteries with angioplasty reduced the risk of death or hospitalization by two-thirds over a 10-year follow-up period." The findings are the "opposite of recently reported results," as noted in the March 27 briefing, "which showed that intensive drug therapy is at least as good as angioplasty in patients with heart disease who have not had a heart attack."
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Gimlet said:
Looks like there's still some hope for your potential future specialty, Funk:
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Thanks for the heads-up. I'll definitely be reading that article when I finally get my JAMA out of my mailbox. I also have a copy of that other, more depressing article lying around somewhere that I plan to read before too long.

Suck it, cardiothoracic surgeons and jealous non-interventional cardiologists!

Btw: 2,000 posts. It seems just yesterday that I was trolling around the MCW threads with nary a word to say.
 
Congrats on the 2000th post.

I feel so behind...
 
And with my 2000th post, I send to you this important message, something I've been wanting to tell all of you.


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Awww! Bunnies!
 
Aaahhhh. It's summer. And getting done with the path final by 9:25 was even better than I could have asked for. Decided to go with cranberry vodkas. I think it was a good decision. However, it's the raspberry vodka, and so I may need to watch my drink number. I have to be at M&I this afternoon to change the AMSA account info.

That is all.

I dedicated that exam to the fine folks at Starbucks @ 124th and Capital. They're always there for me when I need them. Speedy, yet accurate. Always delicious.
 
"It's all gone quiet" said rhubarb.
"Too quiet" said custard.

if you can name that (without using google), I'll buy you a drink.

Congrats on finishing your last semester of basic sciences. Just a little bit left.

Regroup here and decide when you guys want to get together.

Congrats, M2.99998's
 
Xandie's tidbit of the day: Do NOT put a central venous catheter into the carotid artery and then leave it for 16 hours. It makes the people on the general surgery service cranky.
 
Hey Xandie/Don, quick question:

I got a "Site Preference Form" from the Psychiatry course coordinator today to rank where I want to do my rotation in July. I remember Xandie saying something about psych when I shawdowed her...something to the effect of "Rogers is really cushy, but you won't learn anything," and "The VA will work you hard, but you'll learn a lot." Do you guys know anything about the other sites, too?

Also, I'm a little confused about the differences in the teams you can be on. In Tosa, you can either be on the FMLH consult service, the CHW consult service, or on one of two inpatient adult floors at the County Behavioral Health Division. At the VA, you can choose from the inpatient rotation, the consult/liason rotation, or the outpatient rotation. Any recommendations? I'm not interested in going into psych, so I'm really just looking for an experience that will allow me to get into the flow of the workings of a hospital so I don't look like too much of a newbie on my next rotation.

Thanks!
 
Gimlet said:
Hey Xandie/Don, quick question:

I got a "Site Preference Form" from the Psychiatry course coordinator today to rank where I want to do my rotation in July. I remember Xandie saying something about psych when I shawdowed her...something to the effect of "Rogers is really cushy, but you won't learn anything," and "The VA will work you hard, but you'll learn a lot." Do you guys know anything about the other sites, too?

Also, I'm a little confused about the differences in the teams you can be on. In Tosa, you can either be on the FMLH consult service, the CHW consult service, or on one of two inpatient adult floors at the County Behavioral Health Division. At the VA, you can choose from the inpatient rotation, the consult/liason rotation, or the outpatient rotation. Any recommendations? I'm not interested in going into psych, so I'm really just looking for an experience that will allow me to get into the flow of the workings of a hospital so I don't look like too much of a newbie on my next rotation.

Thanks!
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Big huge caveat to all of this (and every rotation): Your attendings or residents often will make or break your experience. That being said, I've only had one resident that I wanted to strangle. Everyone else has been pretty good.

As you said, Rogers is pretty cushy (from what I hear), and the hours are easy. Some people were apparently done by early afternoon. Learning you can do by studying on your own.

I was on VA inpatient. Hours 9am-3:30 or 4:30pm or so.
Saw a lot of PTSD and substance abuse, but also schizophrenia, depression, and all that. There is a lot of downtime in the afternoons while you wait for admissions. VA consults is OK for hours, and you will see interesting things. VA outpatient has to be the easiest of the bunch, as far as hours, but you probably won't learn anything without effort on your part.

Do not under any circumstance go to the County Health Complex. From what I hear, it's the worst site of the rotation, hours wise. Some people were doing 7am-7pm.

Hope that helps.
 
donnyfire said:
Big huge caveat to all of this (and every rotation): Your attendings or residents often will make or break your experience. That being said, I've only had one resident that I wanted to strangle. Everyone else has been pretty good.

As you said, Rogers is pretty cushy (from what I hear), and the hours are easy. Some people were apparently done by early afternoon. Learning you can do by studying on your own.

I was on VA inpatient. Hours 9am-3:30 or 4:30pm or so.
Saw a lot of PTSD and substance abuse, but also schizophrenia, depression, and all that. There is a lot of downtime in the afternoons while you wait for admissions. VA consults is OK for hours, and you will see interesting things. VA outpatient has to be the easiest of the bunch, as far as hours, but you probably won't learn anything without effort on your part.

Do not under any circumstance go to the County Health Complex. From what I hear, it's the worst site of the rotation, hours wise. Some people were doing 7am-7pm.

Hope that helps.
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Thanks Don!
 
ARGH!!!! I'm never going to be able to sync my pda to my computer because I don't have XP home or professional. I have XP Media Center, and they're never going to make it compatible to media center. BOTH my computers use media center -- this bites.

Edit: Ooooh. So it won't work on my desk top which would've been all too convenient, it'll sync to my lap top. Both still have media center. Technology hates me. I don't have internet on my lap top regularly unless I'm at school, too. meh.
 
Ashers said:
ARGH!!!! I'm never going to be able to sync my pda to my computer because I don't have XP home or professional. I have XP Media Center, and they're never going to make it compatible to media center. BOTH my computers use media center -- this bites.

Edit: Ooooh. So it won't work on my desk top which would've been all too convenient, it'll sync to my lap top. Both still have media center. Technology hates me. I don't have internet on my lap top regularly unless I'm at school, too. meh.
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if it's any consolation, I haven't had much use for syncing at home...just to put games and such on it. don't we have to sync them at school to update ePocrates and all that jazz?
 
um, XP Media Center should be backwards compatible with any software meant for XP Home. did it actually say "not compatible with XP Media Center"?
 
Andy, I was at County. We worked 8:45 to about 4pm most days. Everyone is floridly psychotic, with one or two suicidal folks thrown in.

I didn't mind it... and it made my life seem pretty wonderful.
 
Xandie said:
Andy, I was at County. We worked 8:45 to about 4pm most days. Everyone is floridly psychotic, with one or two suicidal folks thrown in.

I didn't mind it... and it made my life seem pretty wonderful.
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hi Xandie!!! you're so awesome for all the advice you give to everybody! i hope i can be as helpful as you are somedya!!!!

what do they expect medical students to do with the psychiatric patients? i'm afraid I might get a little bit nervous around some of them!!! aren't there killers and child molesters and stuff in mental hospitals? i'd be totally scared to talk to them!!!!!
 
TheProwler said:
um, XP Media Center should be backwards compatible with any software meant for XP Home. did it actually say "not compatible with XP Media Center"?
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I called palm, and they said it wasn't compatible with Media Center, and I could uninstall and reinstall it to see if ti works because it sometimes works on some computers.
 
Ashers said:
I called palm, and they said it wasn't compatible with Media Center, and I could uninstall and reinstall it to see if ti works because it sometimes works on some computers.
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I agree with Prowler...sounds to me like they don't know what the heck they are talking about and simply didn't feel like getting to the real root of the problem. I have a Media Center PC as well and all it is is XP Home with a Tivo-like program installed in it to help control the media--there should be no real differences in how software runs on it.
 
In honor of finishing our 2nd year I thought it would be fun for us to record our first experiences with medicine. Maybe we can start a list and new folks can add to it as they see fit. I'll begin:

Funk: Upon entering the world Funk helped deliver his own placenta, then pimped the assisting M3 on TORCH infections.

Your turn.
 
BamBoozed said:
hi Xandie!!! you're so awesome for all the advice you give to everybody! i hope i can be as helpful as you are somedya!!!!

what do they expect medical students to do with the psychiatric patients? i'm afraid I might get a little bit nervous around some of them!!! aren't there killers and child molesters and stuff in mental hospitals? i'd be totally scared to talk to them!!!!!
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🙂 Thanks.

You're expected to do the same thing with all the patients, basically... talk to them and get an idea of what you think their disease process is and then figure out how you'd like to manage it. And people who are convicted of crimes are generally sent to mental hospital prison wards, nowhere you'd be assigned to as a third year. On that note, however, there is an externship between first and second year at the prison.
 
Xandie said:
🙂 Thanks.

You're expected to do the same thing with all the patients, basically... talk to them and get an idea of what you think their disease process is and then figure out how you'd like to manage it. And people who are convicted of crimes are generally sent to mental hospital prison wards, nowhere you'd be assigned to as a third year. On that note, however, there is an externship between first and second year at the prison.
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damn...i was never aware of that. i totally woulda done it.
 
BamBoozed said:
hi Xandie!!! you're so awesome for all the advice you give to everybody! i hope i can be as helpful as you are somedya!!!!

what do they expect medical students to do with the psychiatric patients? i'm afraid I might get a little bit nervous around some of them!!! aren't there killers and child molesters and stuff in mental hospitals? i'd be totally scared to talk to them!!!!!
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Hey, you're back, cool! You never did tell us the details about your design project, you know. I'm really curious; I love that stuff!
 
Our class thread is still in the top 10! How could that be? Oh wait, it's a Friday night, and I'm posting on SDN. That pretty much sums it up.

Prediction for all '09ers: Average USLME 1 score of 237. (We all got together and decided not to push the national average too high. Missing a few questions on purpose never hurt anyone.)

Rock step uno y'all 👍
 
jay, what the hell are you doing on this site? :laugh:

my goal is 240. which means i need to probably triple the time i spent studying during actual class.

hey, for the little tell-us-new-m3s-what-we-need-to-know session, i vote for the last week in june. and not the weekend, cuz i'm going north for the pre-4th of july weekend. don and xandie, i'll even buy you each a drink. 🙂
 
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