Official MCW Class of 2009 Thread

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BamBoozed said:
I don't know; I like to study at home a lot!!! 😴 The library's way too boring!
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Watch yourself. He likes to latch on and never leave girls alone once he's seen them.

edit: I took the liberty of proofreading your post for you. Sorry, I'm in a mood.
 
Bad news, guys....the family medicine clerkship scored me a preceptor very close to home...my usual commute is gonna be quick like a bunny during the month of March.

So why bad news? Looks like I wont have anything to whine about for awhile 🙁
 
This is what I'm saying about the family rotation. Hooray for someone realizing that geography is a great preference.
 
so all the talk about rotations aside, anyone here know what they are going into? this comes from an M4 who is just curious about the wave of interests because it tends to shift from year to year. anyone interested in ER?
 
Xandie....where is your top choice for residency? actually, while you are at it -- educate me and tell me where the best OB/GYN residency is? My guess would be Jefferson Memorial in Miami because I think they deliver close to 15,000 babies per year. Am I even close?
 
LamyJoy said:
so all the talk about rotations aside, anyone here know what they are going into? this comes from an M4 who is just curious about the wave of interests because it tends to shift from year to year. anyone interested in ER?
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yes.
 
My computer hates me.
 
Parkland (UTSW) is the busiest, with 15-16000 per year. Magee in Pittsburgh is somewhere up top, 12-13000 I think. Grady in Atlanta is also crazy busy.

I didn't interview at any of those places, though.

I couldn't even begin to tell you where the "best" place is, because there are so many individual considerations. Are you thinking about OB?

And I'm not quite crazy enough to put my number one on the internet. Find me in person and I'll give you the schpiel on my top 4.
 
LamyJoy said:
so all the talk about rotations aside, anyone here know what they are going into? this comes from an M4 who is just curious about the wave of interests because it tends to shift from year to year. anyone interested in ER?
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Yes, not ER. Ortho... along with like 10-15 other people in the class, it seems.

Agent Splat said:
good question. no clue. i should shoot for rural 😉
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Yes, then you wouldn't have to do the whole PBL thing. No PBL and not going to the stupid motivational interviewing, community health stuff made it so much better.
 
LamyJoy said:
Xandie....where is your top choice for residency? actually, while you are at it -- educate me and tell me where the best OB/GYN residency is? My guess would be Jefferson Memorial in Miami because I think they deliver close to 15,000 babies per year. Am I even close?
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You mean Jackson Memorial? I bet they have good GYN cases too. I interviewed there for radonc, and they said they had all kinds of crazy GYN cancers coming up from the caribbean all the time. Probably one of the best places nationwide to see lots of advanced cervical.
 
can you do ob/gyn stuff but only for the baby stuff?
 
As a career? Yes, after doing a 4 year OB/GYN residency you can do a 3-year MFM fellowship, and then do lots of ultrasounds.

Also, many young OB/GYNs have a very obstetric-heavy practice, transitioning to more gynecology as they and their patients age.
 
TheProwler said:
Anybody have any insight into neonatology as a specialty?
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You'll get a couple days worth of exposure during your peds rotation 3rd year. It's one of the only decently paid specialties out of a peds residency (you'll make around 250K) and it's a neat specialty because of the extensive use of physiology in treating the littlest ones. I think the job satisfaction level is pretty high too, since patients tend to like the docs that they think saved their baby's life if things start out not looking good.

I think the difficulty comes in losing neonatal patients and dealing with the fact that physiologically their compensatory systems aren't quite up to snuff yet. Also, dealing with complications brought about by poor maternal care during the pregnancy could be frustrating, I can imagine.
 
The only reason I'm looking forward to peds is a break from the Dert... 4 months in a row is too much. I also hope I don't have any gunners on my team, that makes it that much more mentally exhausting.
 
DoctorFunk said:
You'll get a couple days worth of exposure during your peds rotation 3rd year. It's one of the only decently paid specialties out of a peds residency (you'll make around 250K) and it's a neat specialty because of the extensive use of physiology in treating the littlest ones. I think the job satisfaction level is pretty high too, since patients tend to like the docs that they think saved their baby's life if things start out not looking good.

I think the difficulty comes in losing neonatal patients and dealing with the fact that physiologically their compensatory systems aren't quite up to snuff yet. Also, dealing with complications brought about by poor maternal care during the pregnancy could be frustrating, I can imagine.
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I'm trying to join the neonatology forum right now, but you need approval from a mod. It's certainly a big interest of mine, especially the more I think about it. One of the things that's pushing me away from something like emergency medicine is the fact that you get a fair number of "ne'er-do-wells" who are milking the system - drug seekers, trying to get a work excuse, "my bumper barely has a scratch, but I'm sure I have whiplash," and so on. I would certainly not feel that way about a baby. I also really like babies, which would be a double-edged sword. It would be tough when they died, but that would also be an incentive to do my best.

I'm just trying to think of specialties where if I were called in at 3am, I'd feel the need to go. That's one reason why psych is out. 😛
 
Ashers said:
The only reason I'm looking forward to peds is a break from the Dert... 4 months in a row is too much. I also hope I don't have any gunners on my team, that makes it that much more mentally exhausting.
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Not to bias anyone or anything, but inpatient peds was my absolutely worst most miserable rotation ever.
 
Probably my worst month too, although it gave me lots of good experiences to talk about for the "difficult experience" set of residency interview questions.
 
Xandie said:
Probably my worst month too, although it gave me lots of good experiences to talk about for the "difficult experience" set of residency interview questions.
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lol I used that rotation for those questions too
 
yeasterbunny said:
lol I used that rotation for those questions too
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Do you think it's just MCW that screws everyone on peds when it comes to grading? That was certainly my worst month gradewise too. I wonder what my interviewers thought about it.

But then again, I honored medicine without really deserving it, so it sorta evens out. Apparently >50% of people do? Or more. Per Dr. Simons. I probably worked and learned just as much on each rotation.
 
My inpatient grade was ho-hum, my outpatient grade was a 34/35, so it averaged out to my standard H-HP clinically, P-LP shelf grade breakdown. My month was just rough because I was with the rotator and my third year resident and rotator didn't exactly have the best working relationship. Plus, I was having a crappy time in my personal life, so it didn't really help.
 
Xandie said:
My inpatient grade was ho-hum, my outpatient grade was a 34/35, so it averaged out to my standard H-HP clinically, P-LP shelf grade breakdown. My month was just rough because I was with the rotator and my third year resident and rotator didn't exactly have the best working relationship. Plus, I was having a crappy time in my personal life, so it didn't really help.
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That was the thing that infuriated me the most, my outpatient month in the ER went great, and I got excellent comments like "this is the most motivated JMS I've ever seen" and everything, but then my inpatient month went so badly and I didn't do so great on the shelf and in the end it came out to a P.
 
I got my cat from the Humane Society.

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yeasterbunny said:
Not to bias anyone or anything, but inpatient peds was my absolutely worst most miserable rotation ever.
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I don't see how anything can be worse than my surg rotation right now. The other student on with me and I just went and complained about how bad we're being treated by faculty, residents, and how we're just having our time wasted and not learning anything.
 
I thought the worst rotation grade-wise was Ob/Gyn. I have never been surrounded by so many malignant and angry residents as I was when I was on Ob/Gyn. And I think it was reflected in everyone's grade. Only one person out of a group of 7 got a HP....the rest P-LP. Thought we all got shafted. My favorite part was sitting with the ******ed chief-resident who hailed all of as a "smart, hard working, and nice group." And then finished by saying: "don't change anything, you guys are all doing terrific." How do you explain all of us getting P's?

Sorry Xandie. I think you are going to be a terrific Ob/Gyn and nothing like the losers at Joe's.
 
Ashers said:
I don't see how anything can be worse than my surg rotation right now. The other student on with me and I just went and complained about how bad we're being treated by faculty, residents, and how we're just having our time wasted and not learning anything.
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Ahsers, is there a lot of inbreeding on the surgery service? I ALWAYS see the surgery residents flirting. What's going on? There are some flirtatious residents in the SICU, wow!
 
LamyJoy said:
Ahsers, is there a lot of inbreeding on the surgery service? I ALWAYS see the surgery residents flirting. What's going on? There are some flirtatious residents in the SICU, wow!
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I dunno. I'm usually using all my attention to make sure I'm doing something so I don't get yelled at by one of my residents who'll be switching to the SICU as of Monday.
 
Ashers said:
I dunno. I'm usually using all my attention to make sure I'm doing something so I don't get yelled at by one of my residents who'll be switching to the SICU as of Monday.
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i felt bad for you at lunch today. I wanted to come over and eat with you but i was scared.
 
Ashers said:
I dunno. I'm usually using all my attention to make sure I'm doing something so I don't get yelled at by one of my residents who'll be switching to the SICU as of Monday.
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Only a few more months and then you can cruise like the rest of us. Have you seen some of the M4's during rounds or on the floors? If they are not falling sleep, they are playing with their cell phones, or talking to a nurse. I saw one of my buddies today on plastics and he was looking up snow blowers in a physician's workroom and said "yeah, we had a couple of OR's running today but --- ahhhhh --- I just didn't feel like scrubbing in." Can you imagine an M3 saying that? This is what all the M3's or baby M2's/1's have to look forward to.
 
Matt, a tortie! I love those, my Dad has one. She's like 15 and still kickin'.

While we're doing photos:
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z308/XandieGold/babies.jpg
I love my babies.

Anyway. I know that happens on OB a bit with grades, I have to say that I was perfectly pleased with my HP. I also know that I worked my tuchis off for it. Also, on any rotation, I think it's hard because you usually do your mid-course evals with the residents (at least on an inpatient service) and then you're graded primarily by the attendings. I'm not sure if the attendings on other services are more charitable than the OB/GYNs or if they just consult the residents more? No clue, really.
 
LamyJoy said:
Only a few more months and then you can cruise like the rest of us. Have you seen some of the M4's during rounds or on the floors? If they are not falling sleep, they are playing with their cell phones, or talking to a nurse. I saw one of my buddies today on plastics and he was looking up snow blowers in a physician's workroom and said "yeah, we had a couple of OR's running today but --- ahhhhh --- I just didn't feel like scrubbing in." Can you imagine an M3 saying that? This is what all the M3's or baby M2's/1's have to look forward to.
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I've got an M4 on my team, I've also got a resident with a reputation that makes the M4 work.
 
Agent Splat said:
i felt bad for you at lunch today. I wanted to come over and eat with you but i was scared.
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I kept glancing over in you guys' direction. It would've been more fun.

We got to explain a lot of the stuff that's been happening to the course director today after he walked in while the other student and I were talking to the clerkship coordinator. He was like "There's still issues?"

Apparently a new question on the eval is going to be if GS2 should be a student service. Absolutely not. We were told that after we mentioned that we didn't think students should be on it.
 
I miss my kitties! My family's had 3 out of 4 die since October.

Not Nestle -- hit by a car in October
Nestle -- stroke in November
Black Velvet -- renal failure since Nov and colon CA found in Jan (she was almost 18yo)

Only Chaka the demon cat left.
 
Ashers said:
I kept glancing over in you guys' direction. It would've been more fun.

We got to explain a lot of the stuff that's been happening to the course director today after he walked in while the other student and I were talking to the clerkship coordinator. He was like "There's still issues?"

Apparently a new question on the eval is going to be if GS2 should be a student service. Absolutely not. We were told that after we mentioned that we didn't think students should be on it.
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This is great for all the students involved. As soon as someone raises the flag and before the Dean gets involved, the staff usually hand a out a few H's and HP's to quiet things down.
 
wow, 4 years, 7 posts. Quiet an achievement, no?
 
Xandie said:
Matt, a tortie! I love those, my Dad has one. She's like 15 and still kickin'.

While we're doing photos:
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z308/XandieGold/babies.jpg
I love my babies.

Anyway. I know that happens on OB a bit with grades, I have to say that I was perfectly pleased with my HP. I also know that I worked my tuchis off for it. Also, on any rotation, I think it's hard because you usually do your mid-course evals with the residents (at least on an inpatient service) and then you're graded primarily by the attendings. I'm not sure if the attendings on other services are more charitable than the OB/GYNs or if they just consult the residents more? No clue, really.
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Is tuchis a Yiddish word? I worked mine off for a HP in OB too. A little disappointing.
 
Yes, it's Yiddish for behind (not the direction).
 
Ashers said:
I miss my kitties! My family's had 3 out of 4 die since October.

Not Nestle -- hit by a car in October
Nestle -- stroke in November
Black Velvet -- renal failure since Nov and colon CA found in Jan (she was almost 18yo)

Only Chaka the demon cat left.
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I'm sorry, Ashers 🙁 Losing a pet is tough.
 
Agent Splat said:
I'm sorry, Ashers 🙁 Losing a pet is tough.
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Thanks. We lost all the wrong cats. Now I'm trying to decide whether or not I can handle having a cat here.




Oh! My brother's got a phone interview today with Oscar Meyer to drive the Wienermobile.

Off to the hospital. I dread going in for GSII more than I dreaded going in psych.
 
Ashers said:
Apparently a new question on the eval is going to be if GS2 should be a student service. Absolutely not. We were told that after we mentioned that we didn't think students should be on it.
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Why? I don't recall hearing any complaints about GS2 in the last 6 mo.



I'm postcall today, so only one more day of Ob-gyn then the shelf. Our residents have been awesome at Mary's the last 6 weeks. Everyone has been really nice and teach a fair amount. Our group got pretty lucky. They also told us as a whole that we've done a good job, but I'm not holding my breath.

Peds has not been my favorite either. Glowing comments on the grade sheet, decent on the shelf. Not a negative remark or even anything stated to improve on. Barely HP. 👎
 
akpete said:
Why? I don't recall hearing any complaints about GS2 in the last 6 mo.



I'm postcall today, so only one more day of Ob-gyn then the shelf. Our residents have been awesome at Mary's the last 6 weeks. Everyone has been really nice and teach a fair amount. Our group got pretty lucky. They also told us as a whole that we've done a good job, but I'm not holding my breath.

Peds has not been my favorite either. Glowing comments on the grade sheet, decent on the shelf. Not a negative remark or even anything stated to improve on. Barely HP. 👎
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Everyone with whom I've spoken who was on GSII said they hated it.

[Edit on OB/gyn] We were told that we were so much better than the previous group, my only criticism on my mid term eval was to read more, and I got a P.

Your peds sounds like my CPR grade. I just saw my attending from CPR during a surg for GSII, and he's still trying to convince me to do anesthesia. He's like, "What can I do to make you to make anesthesia your 1st and not 2nd choice?" I basically said, "Make me not like ortho." So he's like, "There's a foot case in the next room, I'll send you in there!!"
 
Well looks like the GSII surgeons are living up to their wonderful reputation by abusing medical students. What a surprise 🙂
 
LamyJoy said:
Well looks like the GSII surgeons are living up to their wonderful reputation by abusing medical students. What a surprise 🙂
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Really? The surgeons? When I was on GS II it was usually the residents abusing us. Maybe they did it preemptively knowing the surgeons what the surgeons would want.
 
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