Official NBME details from AAOMS

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You get an email saying that your score report is available and can be accessed with a link. In the report you will have 2 pages, one with info of the NBME and approximate USMLE scores (same scale as always) and the 2nd page with your numerical score and a breakdown of what sections you did well or not so well in. Averages and SD were given 1 week after the score reports were released I believe.
 
alxspider said:
It was Thursday last year (just went back a few pages and saw this info). Will the page have this information or should someone contact AAOMS now to have this info tomorrow? (finger to nose - not it).
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Scores will be available by Friday (I emailed the secretary today to ask)

yeah i heard some douche at our school allegedly logged into some peoples accounts to look at their scores - definitely not the most secure way to access ones info :idea:
 
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The Anhedonia said:
Scores will be available by Friday (I emailed the secretary today to ask)

yeah i heard some douche at our school apparently logged into some peoples accounts to look at their scores - definitely not the most secure way to access ones info :idea:
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For people who took the test last time, how did you feel about the test this time?
 
alxspider said:
For people who took the test last time, how did you feel about the test this time?
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Guessed on a lot of questions last time. Legitimately guessed on four to six questions this time. Missed some gimmes on the last block. I trained as hard as I could, so I'm ok with whatever result I get (I hope 🙂 )
 
Spaceman Spif said:
Guessed on a lot of questions last time. Legitimately guessed on four to six questions this time. Missed some gimmes on the last block. I trained as hard as I could, so I'm ok with whatever result I get (I hope 🙂 )
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yeah basically if you prepare well your biggest enemy is plain 'ol fatigue. staring at the screen focused so intensely for so long....it becomes hard to focus after a while.
 
Spaceman Spif said:
Guessed on a lot of questions last time. Legitimately guessed on four to six questions this time. Missed some gimmes on the last block. I trained as hard as I could, so I'm ok with whatever result I get (I hope 🙂 )
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Wow, that is amazing. I got tired around the second block (I know, sad) and started answering questions based on what just looked right. We will see tomorrow, I guess.
 
Spaceman Spif said:
Guessed on a lot of questions last time. Legitimately guessed on four to six questions this time. Missed some gimmes on the last block. I trained as hard as I could, so I'm ok with whatever result I get (I hope 🙂 )
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Dude if you only guessed on 4-6 youre gonna get a 90+ for sure... Guessing on 4-6 per block is probably good enough for 80-85++
 
Michael620 said:
Ahhhh ok. Thanks for the clarification. Well here's to hoping I get in off Columbia's waitlist so I can just take medical coursework anyways lol.
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Or you could save a boatload of $$$ and just memorize first aid.
 
I guess I will go first

NBME Score: 74
UWorld/Kaplan/etc percentages: 60% Uworld (I was getting like 65% towards the end)
Time spent preparing: 2-3 months
Resources used: FA, Pathoma, Uworld
Comments/other: I am super happy 🙂
 
NBME Score: 82
UWorld/Kaplan/etc percentages: super high
Time spent preparing: 9 months
Resources used: kaplan, uworld, pathoma, first aid, first aid organ systems, robbins pathology (cover to cover), bates' guide to physical examination & history taking, biochemistry, nutrition, and DSM IV (just skimmed over all the chapters). Oh, and I reviewed all of my notes from 1st and 2nd year.

Comments/other: I feel like I should have scored much higher. I am going to retake the exam in Sept.
 
rollintrollin said:
NBME Score: 82
UWorld/Kaplan/etc percentages: super high
Time spent preparing: 9 months
Resources used: kaplan, uworld, pathoma, first aid, first aid organ systems, robbins pathology (cover to cover), bates' guide to physical examination & history taking, biochemistry, nutrition, and DSM IV (just skimmed over all the chapters). Oh, and I reviewed all of my notes from 1st and 2nd year.

Comments/other: I feel like I should have scored much higher. I am going to retake the exam in Sept.
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😱 Why?!!! your score is really good! Why would you take it again? What is wrong with you people?
 
NBME Score: 92
UWorld: 80%
Time spent preparing: 3 months
Resources used: uworld, first aid, pathoma
Comments/other: thank god that's done.
 
SMG8 said:
NBME Score: 92
UWorld: 80%
Time spent preparing: 3 months
Resources used: uworld, first aid, pathoma
Comments/other: thank god that's done.
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That's really impressive. Higher than what a lot of medical students score.
 
NBME Score: 79
UWorld percentages: 70ish
Time spent preparing: 3 months
Resources used: Uworld, Pathoma, NBME exams

Meh. better than last time, will be interesting to see how the percentiles works out.
 
Looks like the averages will be a lot higher. 92?! wtf?! and 82 wanting to retake the test?!!

Congrats The Anhedonia!

I wonder how spaceman spiff did? I am guessing he/she rocked it!
 
alxspider said:
😱 Why?!!! your score is really good! Why would you take it again? What is wrong with you people?
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Something tells me that it is not a real account.
 
Well my score from last year just got diluted. Its gonna be a long 4 1/2 months. Maybe ill actually read Behavioral Science and Psyc sections this time around.
 
KillaCam said:
Well my score from last year just got diluted. Its gonna be a long 4 1/2 months. Maybe ill actually read Behavioral Science and Psyc sections this time around.
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We don't have the averages or anything yet. Also, this is just a small subset of all the scores. I bet the average is prob a 55-60.
 
alxspider said:
We don't have the averages or anything yet. Also, this is just a small subset of all the scores. I bet the average is prob a 55-60.
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Yeah I hope its no higher than a 60. But either way I can do better. I mean, I ran out of time on probably 8 questions (blind guesses) and didnt even touch 2 of the sections (Behavioral and Psyc).
 
KillaCam said:
Yeah I hope its no higher than a 60. But either way I can do better. I mean, I ran out of time on probably 8 questions (blind guesses) and didnt even touch 2 of the sections (Behavioral and Psyc).
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You might as well spend the additional time doing a research project or something else. Above a certain score, it doesn't matter. You would rather have the 90+ and additional stuff than just a high score.

Also, beh sci and psych are prob the lowest yield sections.
 
alxspider said:
You might as well spend the additional time doing a research project or something else. Above a certain score, it doesn't matter. You would rather have the 90+ and additional stuff than just a high score.

Also, beh sci and psych are prob the lowest yield sections.
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I can retake and do other stuff at the same time. Also, the exam last year easily had 10 or more questions from these sections combined. I'd take 10 more correct answers anytime
 
We should compile all the programs that require the applicant's app to be completed and sent in prior to Sept 21.

The end of the app cycle is Oct 1, right?
 
alxspider said:
How did you do on the test?
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NBME Score:
58

UWorld percentages:
42% Cumulative (36ish for the first 1/2 and around 48 for the second 1/2)

Time spent preparing:
2-3 months minus no studying for 3 weeks before the exam due to clinic/pt needs and all our finals spread out over that time.

Resources used:
  • Uworld - finished 80% of the questions
  • Pathoma - once through, listening and taking notes in side bar
  • Goljan - to and from school in car
  • FA - Used for biochem, beh sci, micro, etc
  • NBME Forms (12 [January without studying - CBSE: 42],7 [March - CBSE: 52]], UWorld SA 1 [Early April - CBSE: 57]

I did not take the exam in Sept 2012.

I found it extremely difficult to manage my time between studying for weekly quizzes in multiple classes (perio, pharm, implants), managing patient needs (all that lab work - we have to pour and trim all our dies, unflask and polish our own dentures...), my extracurricular obligations, studying for finals, and that pesky group of people that is my family. Therefore, and maybe not appropriate, but studying for this exam became less and less important as the semester progressed.

This will not be the case this time around. Summer is full of externships, studying for this exam, and 50% clinic attendance.

Not as 'great' as some of the other scores posted, but maybe a little more representative of the application pool.

Shooting for a 65 next time around and I will be very satisfied.

PLAN
Go through all of FA x2, Goljan and pathoma again, focusing more on the details. Go through all of UWorld once more, if not twice more. As compared to when I started studying, I know the diagnosis most of the time, it is the second or third step (or 4th,5th and 6th) that gets me. Path and Pharm at our school (actually, all of the physiology too) is really weakly taught at my program. We churn out great general dentists who, unfortunately in my opinion, are pretty naive about the human body and its pathophysiology. I feel that I have a solid base of knowledge from studying these last two months that I can build on and get a 65.
 
MrRongeurs said:
NBME Score:
58

UWorld percentages:
42% Cumulative (36ish for the first 1/2 and around 48 for the second 1/2)

Time spent preparing:
2-3 months minus no studying for 3 weeks before the exam due to clinic/pt needs and all our finals spread out over that time.

Resources used:
  • Uworld - finished 80% of the questions
  • Pathoma - once through, listening and taking notes in side bar
  • Goljan - to and from school in car
  • FA - Used for biochem, beh sci, micro, etc
  • NBME Forms (12 [January without studying - CBSE: 42],7 [March - CBSE: 52]], UWorld SA 1 [Early April - CBSE: 57]

I did not take the exam in Sept 2012.

I found it extremely difficult to manage my time between studying for weekly quizzes in multiple classes (perio, pharm, implants), managing patient needs (all that lab work - we have to pour and trim all our dies, unflask and polish our own dentures...), my extracurricular obligations, studying for finals, and that pesky group of people that is my family. Therefore, and maybe not appropriate, but studying for this exam became less and less important as the semester progressed.

This will not be the case this time around. Summer is full of externships, studying for this exam, and 50% clinic attendance.

Not as 'great' as some of the other scores posted, but maybe a little more representative of the application pool.

Shooting for a 65 next time around and I will be very satisfied.

PLAN
Go through all of FA x2, Goljan and pathoma again, focusing more on the details. Go through all of UWorld once more, if not twice more. As compared to when I started studying, I know the diagnosis most of the time, it is the second or third step (or 4th,5th and 6th) that gets me. Path and Pharm at our school (actually, all of the physiology too) is really weakly taught at my program. We churn out great general dentists who, unfortunately in my opinion, are pretty naive about the human body and its pathophysiology. I feel that I have a solid base of knowledge from studying these last two months that I can build on and get a 65.
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Good luck! Honestly, I don't think 58 or so is a bad score. If you look at the number of people taking the test and total number of omfs spots, it seems that even below average will get you in somewhere.

What school do you go to? I would imagine that most schools would cover basic science in a similar manner.
 
alxspider said:
Good luck! Honestly, I don't think 58 or so is a bad score. If you look at the number of people taking the test and total number of omfs spots, it seems that even below average will get you in somewhere.

What school do you go to? I would imagine that most schools would cover basic science in a similar manner.
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I'm glad that you think a 58 is adequate. Unfortunately, you are not a program director and not deciding my fate so I will still shoot for the 65 😉

I PM'ed you my current school.
 
Hey guys

I want to post about my experience because I think it will be very helpful. First off I scored an 82, and unlike some of the other posters on this blog, I could not be more thrilled, and I think its a joke and comes off as haughty that some people are considering taking it again with anything above a 70.

I basically started studying 3.5 months ago and just listened to pathoma as much as possible. I CAN NOT THINK OF A BETTER RESOURCE THAN PATHOMA. The thing to be aware of is that pathoma gives you a false sense of understanding. Since he explains everything so clearly you believe that you understand it, but in order to truly acquire the information you need to be actively involved, not just passively listening to him. So what I did was first just listened to a block without taking notes. Then I would re-listen and take notes in first aid along with the topic. This way you could compare and see the differences between the two and try to sort them out. Basically just kept you engaged and actively involved. Then I would review the topic by section in U world. So if I did pulm pathology I only reviewed pulm path in world. IMO this is the best way to utilize u world.

After Pathoma (took about 1.5 months just to get through Pathoma with FA and the path questions in world), I took a practice NBME and got a 320 roughly equivalent to a 57.

With about 6 weeks to go until the test: I had spring break and spent a week for 12-14 hours a day just doing micro in FA and uworld.

With 5 weeks to go I gave about 6 hours a day to reading FA cover to cover, slowly and carefully, making sure to do the corresponding topic in U world as I went through it. I finished FA for the first time with about 2 weeks to go and took my second practice NBME and got a 440, roughly equivalent to a 73. I then spent the last 2 weeks finishing up world (skimming the explanations now instead of spending tons of time on them), and re-reading FA (focusing on my weaknesses as reported in my previous NBME). I also listened to pathoma again on 2x speed as I would go through the chapter in FA.

I was just barely able to finish U world with maybe 5 days before the test. Those last 5 days I again tried to get through my weaknesses in FA. I took the day before the test to study biostats.

Also, I used this book "High Yield: Behavioral sciences" for Psych and biostats by Barbara Fadem. This section was like 15 questions on the test and I assumed a ton of people would just ignore it so saw a chance for easy points. The book was an easy read (finished in about 2 hours) and taught me everything for that section. I would read it when I needed a break from my strict schedule.

Anyway, the point of this post is suggest a map for how to study for those people that are looking for one, and to point out that you can really improve your score (5782).

Hope this helps.
 
So now y'all telling me that we need to actually get a 90 raw score instead of the 65 that magically becomes a 90. How could y'all do this to us?!??!??
 
The Examiner said:
So now y'all telling me that we need to actually get a 90 raw score instead of the 65 that magically becomes a 90. How could y'all do this to us?!??!??
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No, you just take the test and apply. With only 250-290 people taking the test (this includes, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th years), you are bound to get in somewhere with even and average score (or below average). IF you want to go to one of the top programs, then you might need to score higher.
 
NBME Score: 70

UWorld Percentages: 1st pass - 51%
2nd pass (1/2 way thru) - 64%

Sources Used:

First Aid
Pathoma
UWorld
First Aid Q&A
UWorld Notes
Kaplan High Yield Behavioral Science
Goljan Images

( I'll first talk about my study method, then I'll give my opinion about the overall experience...)

I started reading my UWorld notes for an overview of the material covered from the previous test. It really helped to establish the connections that the test wants you to know. I then read FA passively, memorizing areas where I felt I was weak. I then read Pathoma, trying to focus on going a little more in depth with the basics (for example - WHY are the lymphocytes in EBV so "atypical"?). I then went through FA Q&A (which took a LONG time to do, and threw me off in terms of reading UWorld questions), then read some selected BRS Pathology chapters where I felt weak (mainly Renal and Hepatobiliary/GI). I then went through Kaplan High Yield Behavioral (the BEST source I used) and tried to run through everything again (but only got through half of UWorld). A few days before the exam, I felt a little burned out. I really went pretty hard the last couple of weeks, and I think I got a little mentally tired. I bought an NBME exam in order to simulate exam conditions, but I couldn't sacrifice study time since I didn't start until 4-5 pm each day due to clinic. After the real thing, I immediately remembered questions I missed. I knew that I didn't do as well as I wanted. Today's score justified my feelings...

My overall thoughts:

I was pretty adamant on taking this thing over. I definitely prepared well, and I felt going in that my understanding of both concepts and relationships was pretty solid. I worked twice as hard as I did before, and I can honestly say that I knew much more than I did the first time. After all of that, my score only increased by five points. To say I'm disappointed is not enough. I spent many hours the last few months working on this exam, and I can't say that I am happy with this score. Despite this, I know I gave my BEST in preparing for it, so I can't hang my head. 70 is a solid score, and combined with an 87 NBDE score I feel like PDs can get a pretty good sense of where I am with regards to other applicants. If one were to ask me if it was worth it, I would say it was - but be careful about retaking AFTER 2nd year. Your score might not jump the way you want it to. I might not have a shot at Big D, but I feel confident I can end up in a pretty solid program. I guess we'll see what happens 🙂
 
I know you aren't thrilled but good job Spaceman - at least your score went up! J/w - was the first pass % of UWORLD from september or did you start anew for this time around.
 
Did anyone take an NBME online or offline a week or so before the actual test? How did that go as a predictor? I know they say the scores should be pretty repeatable but.. don't know how that works with less than 200 Q's
 
STANDARDOFCARE said:
Did anyone take an NBME online or offline a week or so before the actual test? How did that go as a predictor? I know they say the scores should be pretty repeatable but.. don't know how that works with less than 200 Q's
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Got about the same score on both.
 
Spaceman Spif said:
NBME Score: 70

UWorld Percentages: 1st pass - 51%
2nd pass (1/2 way thru) - 64%

Sources Used:

First Aid
Pathoma
UWorld
First Aid Q&A
UWorld Notes
Kaplan High Yield Behavioral Science
Goljan Images

( I'll first talk about my study method, then I'll give my opinion about the overall experience...)

I started reading my UWorld notes for an overview of the material covered from the previous test. It really helped to establish the connections that the test wants you to know. I then read FA passively, memorizing areas where I felt I was weak. I then read Pathoma, trying to focus on going a little more in depth with the basics (for example - WHY are the lymphocytes in EBV so "atypical"?). I then went through FA Q&A (which took a LONG time to do, and threw me off in terms of reading UWorld questions), then read some selected BRS Pathology chapters where I felt weak (mainly Renal and Hepatobiliary/GI). I then went through Kaplan High Yield Behavioral (the BEST source I used) and tried to run through everything again (but only got through half of UWorld). A few days before the exam, I felt a little burned out. I really went pretty hard the last couple of weeks, and I think I got a little mentally tired. I bought an NBME exam in order to simulate exam conditions, but I couldn't sacrifice study time since I didn't start until 4-5 pm each day due to clinic. After the real thing, I immediately remembered questions I missed. I knew that I didn't do as well as I wanted. Today's score justified my feelings...

My overall thoughts:

I was pretty adamant on taking this thing over. I definitely prepared well, and I felt going in that my understanding of both concepts and relationships was pretty solid. I worked twice as hard as I did before, and I can honestly say that I knew much more than I did the first time. After all of that, my score only increased by five points. To say I'm disappointed is not enough. I spent many hours the last few months working on this exam, and I can't say that I am happy with this score. Despite this, I know I gave my BEST in preparing for it, so I can't hang my head. 70 is a solid score, and combined with an 87 NBDE score I feel like PDs can get a pretty good sense of where I am with regards to other applicants. If one were to ask me if it was worth it, I would say it was - but be careful about retaking AFTER 2nd year. Your score might not jump the way you want it to. I might not have a shot at Big D, but I feel confident I can end up in a pretty solid program. I guess we'll see what happens 🙂
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It's all good. At least your score didn't drop, which would have sucked. Big D? I think people are overemphasizing how much this test matters.
 
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