*** Official NYCOM Class of 2010 *** pt. 2

[PlasticMan]

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Is there anyway we can go on strike? Class action lawsuit against Scandalis? Something?

Counting quizzes in my opinion would be the worst thing they could do to us. When we need to be studying for the boards we shouldn't have to worry about studying every night to do well on clicker quizzes. Absolutely ridiculous in my opinion. It doesn't allow us to tailor our own studying schedules at all. I think it's fine and dandy if they want to use the quizzes for attendance purposes and to allow us to gauge how the questions are going to be on the exams but I mean, this is just getting ridiculous. I have a feeling that a lot of us would NOT have chosen to go to NYCOM if we knew that it was going to be like this and we would have chosen other schools.

It really bothers me because I feel like these new changes they're making are going to hurt me on the boards, not help me. It's absolutely insane. Instead of trying to help the people failing tests, why don't they try to accomodate the people who have been doing what they've been supposed to so far.

Wow. I feel EXACTLY the same way. I don't know why we don't have a say in any of these changes? I have been tweaking my studying habits every thread to try to do better. This last exam, I scored my highest test score of the year; going to class was not part of that equation. I really don't want to mess with the formula. I feel like I'm doing well with my study routine. Here's an idea: How bout making 80% mandatory attendance for anyone who fails the previous thread? This way, those of us who are doing well are not affected.

 

[HunterGatherer]

Here's an idea: How bout making 80% mandatory attendance for anyone who fails the previous thread? This way, those of us who are doing well are not affected.

great idea. we should be concentrating on solutions.

 

[Dave C]

This is getting out of hand...

 

[Taty]

I am getting scared....🙁

 

[NYCOM2010]

I really don't understand what they are trying to do. Take today for example, I get to class at 8am for a lecture that is suppose to go until 10...and it ended at 9. I left school since I don't like to study on campus and I didn’t feel like hanging around for an hour wasting time that I could have used to study. Now if attendance was counted I'd be pissed off that I had to wait around for an hour for the next lecture to start. Plus weren’t we told the clickers were anonymous??

They are making things more difficult for us and I just don’t understand why. I am sick of being punished for other peoples and the schools problems. If some people in our school don’t take it seriously focus on them and don’t screw up things for the people who are actually doing well. This is the last straw with this administration, its time to reevaluate who the hell is running things, because they are very close to completely screwing up this school.

And don't even get me started with how they scheduled anatomy lectures/lab, nothing wrong with 15+ people per cadaver right? 🙄

 

[PlasticMan]

It would be GREAT if the entire first week of next year during mandatory attendance, then entire class boycotted every class. Too bad, I know half the kids in our class wouldn't have the balls to do it and would screw those of us who do.

Anyway, in the mean time, what can we do? I suggest everyone make an appointment with Dr. Scandalis to have him personally explain to each and every one of us how mandatory class is going to help me score higher on step 1. He himself told us during a meeting that "The highest scores on step 1 were streamers, and the lowest scores on step 1 were also streamers." He is going to be hurting those who would otherwise score highest. Suggest focusing on the kids just scoring the lowest, aka retake = mandatory attendance. Why punish those who are doing well? If mandatory attendance is suppossed to help the kids who are doing poorly, then make it a requirement for them ONLY. Let's all make appointments with him. If he has 200 students angry and filling up his apointment book, he may reconsider what he is doing.

 

[JasonUD]

Has anyone heard a definitive answer of how anatomy will be handled next year??

 

[nvshelat]

Wow.

Not to sound like a dick, but I'm glad I'm in DPC right now.

You never know, Scandals might change his mind. Alternatively, he might not even be dean next year and these changes may not take effect.

 

[nvshelat]

I really don't understand what they are trying to do. Take today for example, I get to class at 8am for a lecture that is suppose to go until 10...and it ended at 9. I left school since I don't like to study on campus and I didn’t feel like hanging around for an hour wasting time that I could have used to study. Now if attendance was counted I'd be pissed off that I had to wait around for an hour for the next lecture to start. Plus weren’t we told the clickers were anonymous??

They are making things more difficult for us and I just don’t understand why. I am sick of being punished for other peoples and the schools problems. If some people in our school don’t take it seriously focus on them and don’t screw up things for the people who are actually doing well. This is the last straw with this administration, its time to reevaluate who the hell is running things, because they are very close to completely screwing up this school.

And don't even get me started with how they scheduled anatomy lectures/lab, nothing wrong with 15+ people per cadaver right? 🙄

Hmmm now while everyone is crowded around this table and no one is looking, lemme just sneak one of these dead bodies out of here.. muwahahahaha

 

[PlasticMan]

On another note, HG, did ya hear they filmed a pilot for a television series based on the geico commercials you starred in?

 

[HunterGatherer]

On another note, HG, did ya hear they filmed a pilot for a television series based on the geico commercials you starred in?

they used my pic in Immuno DPR without my permission! WTF?

Are they using the actors from the Geico commercial?

I'm curious what the student government thinks. I think if we got together as a class by the first week of school we could have some influence on our future.

I'm really starting to like Goldstein. We have great Physio, Path, Anatomy, Micro, Immuno and possibly some other subjects. I did like Hutak but the way Goldstein is doing things could really help put the Pharm dept up there.

 

[Stumleuponme]

Student Government is a name sake. They have no say whatsoever in the student related policy making. I was so pissed off during one of the earlier meetings, when during the meeting all they kept on talking was about post-neuro party, where as all we wanted to know was what the hell was happening with the retake policy etc.
And why is our Dean of student life present at our class meeting. Because of her presence, people are intimidated from speaking up about such sensitive issues. I see no reason that she should be present at our class meetings.
Also, I agree with making attendence mandatory for those who take retake or remediation. Why punish the entire class?

 

[PlasticMan]

they used my pic in Immuno DPR without my permission! WTF?

Are they using the actors from the Geico commercial?

I'm curious what the student government thinks. I think if we got together as a class by the first week of school we could have some influence on our future.

I'm really starting to like Goldstein. We have great Physio, Path, Anatomy, Micro, Immuno and possibly some other subjects. I did like Hutak but the way Goldstein is doing things could really help put the Pharm dept up there.

I think waiting till next year may be too late. We need to take action now before the polices go into effect! Once they have gone into effect, I think they will be less likely to alter them.

 

[PlasticMan]

Student Government is a name sake. They have no say whatsoever in the student related policy making. I was so pissed off during one of the earlier meetings, when during the meeting all they kept on talking was about post-neuro party, where as all we wanted to know was what the hell was happening with the retake policy etc.
And why is our Dean of student life present at our class meeting. Because of her presence, people are intimidated from speaking up about such sensitive issues. I see no reason that she should be present at our class meetings.
Also, I agree with making attendence mandatory for those who take retake or remediation. Why punish the entire class?

Our class government is trying to help us, but all they can do is bring up the topics we bring up at the e-board meeting.

I've also been told that although the majority of the SGA / class governments actually supported the Dean candidate from MSU, at the actual e-board meeting the head of SGA informed the e-board that the student government supports Scandalis! Some people in SGA are counting on LOR from Scadalis...

 

[HunterGatherer]

Our class government is trying to help us, but all they can do is bring up the topics we bring up at the e-board meeting.

I've also been told that although the majority of the SGA / class governments actually supported the Dean candidate from MSU, at the actual e-board meeting the head of SGA informed the e-board that the student government supports Scandalis! Some people in SGA are counting on LOR from Scadalis...

Politicians!!

😡

 

[nvshelat]

You know, this response is typical of the NYCOM administration. It is sloppy and it is lazy and it passes the buck. Has it occured to anyone that maybe some students are failing because the tests are so poorly written? The attendance policy will solve nothing and only create more problems. For even something as simple as heating and A/C, NYCOM passes the blame. Oh, it's NYIT's fault. Lose a dead body? Oh, it's not our fault! Can't print out notes on time? Oh, not us, no it's the clinicians! Waste time by lectures from clinicians thinking we're residents or upperclassmen? Nah, we told them what to tell you, it's their fault!

Now failing is allegedly the students' problem. I agree, to a large extent they're probably right. But how about analyzing some of their own flaws (ie, test writing) before making such a drastic change?

Oh and PlasticMan, I thought some of your other comments were ballsy, this one ranks right up there..

 

[JasonUD]

Today there was easily 50+ people around a single cadaver in anatomy...Where I was standing at the corner of the table it was 4 people thick. I stood there for an hour and a half and still not being able to hear or see anything I left. I'm 6'1...I can't imagine what the short people do!

 

[NYCOM2010]

^I left after watching Futterman go over radiographs, because again you can't view a cadaver with 30+ people around it. What a joke everything has become.

 

[emlopez2]

Today there was easily 50+ people around a single cadaver in anatomy...Where I was standing at the corner of the table it was 4 people thick. I stood there for an hour and a half and still not being able to hear or see anything I left. I'm 6'1...I can't imagine what the short people do!

Yah i'll tell you what the short people did. They watched their average anatomy practical score go down by 10 points last test, well at least me anyway! I was finally frustrated enough after today's anatomy lab that I left after 45 minutes. What a waste of time it has become!

 

[PlasticMan]

Today there was easily 50+ people around a single cadaver in anatomy...Where I was standing at the corner of the table it was 4 people thick. I stood there for an hour and a half and still not being able to hear or see anything I left. I'm 6'1...I can't imagine what the short people do!

The anatomy department is one of the best departments in our school, IMO. I think they were well intentioned on the changes; however, it didn't turn out as they planned. They thought some people would come at 9, stay for an hour...some come at 10 stay for an hour, and so on, so that there would consistently be only a fraction of the class in there at any given time. What has happened is that everyone comes b/w 9-10 and stays the entire length. Plus since they're not taking attendance, some people are doubling up; aka coming from OMM at 10 and joining in on the other groups anatomy lab (I must plead guilty on this one as well 😳) b/c it is more efficient than having to come to school on 2 separate days. All this has added up to having 3-4 tables with 150-200 students crowded around them 😱 I have a very hard time seeing or hearing what's going on; sometimes I'll stand in the back of a group at a table even though I can't see what they're teaching, just so I can be in the 'Q' to get a closer spot in the next round. Then when I finally get up to the table, it's very hot and breathy and I have to keep my elbows tight to my body just to keep from bumping into the people jammed next to me. It's become quite bad; I highly doubt they will do this again next year, but I guess it's too late to fix it for this year. I wouldn't be mad at the anatomy department; most of the faculty are very cool and friendly. It just didn't go as expected.

I usually standup for NYCOM here on SDN overall, but lately I admit I'm starting to feel more and more aggitated. This new batch of changes from Scandalis has really worried me. As my name suggests, I'm thinking about trying for one of the hardest matches in the country if I score really high on Step 1 USMLE. Not trying to be greedy, but I don't want to lower my score b/c some kids in our class aren't succeeding. Having to be at school at 8am every morning is definitely going to affect my studying habits.

 

[PlasticMan]

I have the info for who to contact to make an appointment with the Dean. Not sure if I should post phone # or email addy for webcrawlers to find, so PM me and I'll reply back with the info.

I think this is our best bet for now? Everyone make appointments. Maybe after he explains how it's helping ALL of us for the 50th time, he will get the idea. I have no idea how to get thru otherwise. Our class meetings don't really seem to help much; I think we should take it into our own hands and contact the dean directly. If anyone else has any other ideas for how to express what we (the student body) want and get thru to the administration, let me know.

 

[JasonUD]

The anatomy department is one of the best departments in our school, IMO. I think they were well intentioned on the changes; however, it didn't turn out as they planned. They thought some people would come at 9, stay for an hour...some come at 10 stay for an hour, and so on, so that there would consistently be only a fraction of the class in there at any given time. What has happened is that everyone comes b/w 9-10 and stays the entire length. Plus since they're not taking attendance, some people are doubling up; aka coming from OMM at 10 and joining in on the other groups anatomy lab (I must plead guilty on this one as well 😳) b/c it is more efficient than having to come to school on 2 separate days. All this has added up to having 3-4 tables with 150-200 students crowded around them 😱 I have a very hard time seeing or hearing what's going on; sometimes I'll stand in the back of a group at a table even though I can't see what they're teaching, just so I can be in the 'Q' to get a closer spot in the next round. Then when I finally get up to the table, it's very hot and breathy and I have to keep my elbows tight to my body just to keep from bumping into the people jammed next to me. It's become quite bad; I highly doubt they will do this again next year, but I guess it's too late to fix it for this year. I wouldn't be mad at the anatomy department; most of the faculty are very cool and friendly. It just didn't go as expected.

Oh yeah I agree with you that the anatomy profs are great, but they should have seen in the last system that there were problems in having us all crowd around a prosection. Today there were only 3 profs in the lab; Hill with a body, Karlson with a body, and Futterman with films. Why weren't the other 4 profs there with bodies? I saw some of them on the floor, but not in the lab. They also should have noticed that no one could see anything and the people in the front stayed there the entire time and didn't let the people in the back rotate in. Why not go over one of the bodies under the video camera so we could see it on the tvs like in the first few labs of the year?

If this is how its going to be done fine, but they need to plan better. Why not have us come in in our OMM groups or betteryet break us into even smaller groups...yeah they can't really take attendence but just stress that we do that and many people will. I came in at 9 today planning on leaving at 10, but I couldn't see anything in Dr Hill's presentation so I stayed to try to see it again...that failed so I moved onto films where occasionally I could see something when someone shifted their weight. They should also have all 7 professors there, 5 with bodies and 2 with films. The professors in anatomy couldn't be more helpful and they're great, but they should be sure that we can see what they're doing.

I don't like complaining about NYCOM but I'm so frustrated at how things are going and how there is no forum for us to tell people in the administration that will listen how we feel.

 

[NYCOM2010]

You're not the only one, I dropped 16 points on the last anatomy practical.

Yah i'll tell you what the short people did. They watched their average anatomy practical score go down by 10 points last test, well at least me anyway! I was finally frustrated enough after today's anatomy lab that I left after 45 minutes. What a waste of time it has become!

 

[HunterGatherer]

One prof mentioned that the 2nd years show up 10 people at a time when they were doing prosections this year. this is probably why they thought it would work for us.

 

[nvshelat]

One prof mentioned that the 2nd years show up 10 people at a time when they were doing prosections this year. this is probably why they thought it would work for us.

Isn't it also the 2nd years who never went to class and prompted the attendance policy?

 

[PlasticMan]

I think I may have been a bit overzealous when suggesting we should bang down the Dean's door. 😳 After speaking with some classmates at school today; maybe this isn't the best approach? Does anyone have any ideas about who we should speak to about this subject? I'm not sure to who/where/how to express our feelings about a big decision like this. Should we contact Claire Bryant? Should we just put pressure on our class officers? Anyone? 😕

I think maybe the reason we're all feeling injustice is b/c of the way the school presents changes like this. It wouldn't be so bad if our meetings with the Dean were basically like, "Hi, we're thinking about making a change to the policy regarding ______. We feel that it would help raise ALL board scores and make you a better physician. But we're interested to see how you feel about it; so contact us, let us get some feedback to let us know how you feel." Whether they take into account our feelings or not, at least we would feel like they listened. Instead of "Suprise! B/c some of you are not doing well, we made change _______ while you were asleep. Good luck!" And it's not just this one change; I feel like we are in a constant state of instability! Does anyone in our class really have any idea what our next year is going to be like? Why do I feel so clueless on everything?! Feels like the carpet is constantly swept out from under us. hehe.

 

[PlasticMan]

Isn't it also the 2nd years who never went to class and prompted the attendance policy?

Wasn't it also the 2nd years that snickered at some of the 1st years as we came out of the meeting w/ Scandalis?

 

[nyc55]

I think I may have been a bit overzealous when suggesting we should bang down the Dean's door. 😳 After speaking with some classmates at school today; maybe this isn't the best approach?

I actually thought all your comments and ideas were fair and that we should go ahead and make appt with the dean...just wondering why you had a change of heart? b/c i really can't think of a better way to handle this..
maybe talking to claire bryant but even then i feel it will be easier for scandalis to ignore us if we go through another person

 

[lilzelda]

This thread is entertaining...😀 I really hate how Scandalis feels that going to class is going to raise our board scores b/c really its not, its going to just be the same material I can stream at twice the speed and now I have less time and energy to actually do real studying....

Taking away the retest and the new policy they've set up seems fair. The only problem I have is sometimes I feel like were not learning the basic sciences and that were learning too much about the clinical aspect of medicine, things we should be learning 3rd and 4th yr but thats just me..

I don't mind anatomy, my practical grade stayed the same. U should try just getting your dissector, going to lab and trying to teach yourself b/c for me it works better than just staring at the body while people point out things. I think it'll work better next yr when they get more bodies to dissect , but hopefully it won't matter for us...

Good Luck with Derm

 

[emlopez2]

This thread is entertaining...😀



Taking away the retest and the new policy they've set up seems fair. The only problem I have is sometimes I feel like were not learning the basic sciences and that were learning too much about the clinical aspect of medicine, things we should be learning 3rd and 4th yr but thats just me..

I have to agree with lilzelda on this one. While they are trying to set us up well clinically they sometimes go a little overboard and seem to steer away from the basic sciences, especially in this thread. In my opinion if you cant easily find the material in a good review book(First AID, Step-up, BRS, ect) then the material probably isnt worth wasting too much time on.

 

[gobiggreen]

Wow...I have a number of opinions.

First of all, I agree they shouldn't be making so many changes at once. This is ridiculous. They're going to change everything we've gotten used to so far this year and it's crazy. What is really wrong is that they're not giving any benefit to people who have done well. Maybe they can consider giving everyone one retest next year as long as you didn't use one this year. It's not fair that kids who retested this year are in the same boat as everyone else.

The retest policy doesn't really bother me that much except for the fact that there are NO second chances. If we have to remediate a course next year it's going to kill our board scores. Our board scores are the most important things for getting a competitive residency. We should all be given that one opportunity to retake a test.

The 80% attendance doesn't really bother be that much as long as it's somewhat lenient. If they fail you because you had a 75% attendance I think that's wrong, especially if you have a bunch of latenesses or something. I agree it shouldn't be an internet school. If anything actually, I'd rather see them do away with streaming than set an attendance policy. There are some professors I dont even bother to attend or stream because I can learn a lot more by looking at a textbook. What really bothers me is that we have to sit usually on average 30 minutes between lectures over the course of a day. That's a waste of time. They should try to schedule a lot of on-site NYCOM lecturers around each other that way if someone finishes early, someone else can just step right in. This will shorten our days and keep us from needlessly wasting time. The thing that bothers me the most though is the way they're keeping attendance. What happens if you forget your clicker? What happens if you run to the bathroom and miss a quiz? Are they really going to count quizzes? Personally I think that would be really wrong since I think it would encourage cheating. Also, I don't think it's right for them to enforce a study style on us. I don't like to do reading until AFTER a lecture so I know what I can focus my studying on. If we have to study before a lecture it's going to waste a lot of my free time. I'm sure other people feel that way.

The new anatomy changes don't really bother me that much for a few reasons:

1) I think that doing genital dissections is kind of nasty and I'm glad I dont have to be there.

2) I haven't gone to lab because it's impossible to see everything and I can do better using Yukochi and my dissector. My anatomy score actually went up 16 points from the last exam so I can't complain too much about the new method.

3) We're finishing anatomy this year WITH retests so if godforbid you fail it, you have the option of a retest.


Finally...I actually think we're getting TOO much basic sciences and wish things were more clinical. We're not going to be practicing basic sciences in real life and assuming you did enough sciences in college you should have most of the basic sciences covered that all you have to do is read a text. The boards are very clinical and our jobs are going to be very clinical. I kind of wish we got a lot more clinical experience. I like the DPR experience although I think they could use our time better when they do it. Medical school should be very clinically based. Basic sciences are easy to learn on your own in my opinion but it really helps to have good lecturers explain the nuances of clinical medicine in class. My favorite lecturers tend to be DO's or MD's. Maybe it's just that I find the clinical material to be much more appealing but I don't think we're getting enough clinical medicine.


Finally pt. 2...there has to be some way we can protest all of these NYCOM changes. Can we threaten to go on strike or something? Contact a lawyer and sue scandalis? Seriously, I don't know why they're first changing everything on us but we chose NYCOM and understood a certain curriculum and different policies. Now that they're changing everything I think that we should have some sort of say in shooting down everything they're doing. Anyone wanna kidnap scandalis like in the movie "celtic pride" and hold him hostage until he makes some changes? haha...

 

[lilzelda]

Finally...I actually think we're getting TOO much basic sciences and wish things were more clinical. We're not going to be practicing basic sciences in real life and assuming you did enough sciences in college you should have most of the basic sciences covered that all you have to do is read a text. The boards are very clinical and our jobs are going to be very clinical. I kind of wish we got a lot more clinical experience. I like the DPR experience although I think they could use our time better when they do it. Medical school should be very clinically based. Basic sciences are easy to learn on your own in my opinion but it really helps to have good lecturers explain the nuances of clinical medicine in class. My favorite lecturers tend to be DO's or MD's. Maybe it's just that I find the clinical material to be much more appealing but I don't think we're getting enough clinical medicine.


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Um most of our classes are clinical base, look at Derm and the number of skin lesions there are to memorize. I understand that were going to be practicing medicine one day but right now I have to worry about scoring high on my Step I and not ending up in Family Practice. I feel like the school hasn't done a good job in teaching Biochem or Pharm and I know Pharm is high yield, so I rather spend and extra couple of hours going over Pharm and clinical scenarios u would use one drug over another rather than learning what a Blue Nevus is.

But thats just me, everyone has there own preference.

 

[gobiggreen]

Well, Derm as a whole is pretty low-yield. I don't think pharm is that high yield. Pharm is also not really basic sciences in my opinion, I consider it clinical. Goldstein is doing better than before but I kind of wish we had better pharm teachers.

I agree we haven't done much biochem, but I'm expecting a lot more biochem when we do GI.

 

[nyc55]

hi guys,


could someone that went to the derm lecture this morning with dr hoffman tell me what the review was like that she gave at the end? looks like it wasnt streamed.
i appreciate the help!

good luck🙂

 

[gobiggreen]

Wow, I'm glad I stayed...I almost left at 9:30 when she gave us a half hour break. My biggest complaint about Hoffman was that she gave wayyy too many breaks.

Anyway, she went over 36 different things that we should focus our studying on. She should have 18 questions on the test by my calculations so she probably has submitted 36 questions for what she went over. 18 on our test, 18 on the makeup.

Anyway, I literally typed up her entire review powerpoint and turned it into a .pdf file. Unfortunately I'm on a different computer though right now so I'll have to post it at another time.

Does anyone PLEASE have last year's exam? I like that we finally had a noodle quiz again but I love using an old exam to gauge how well I'm doing.

 

[kissachka]

Hey guys, don't mean to barge in on your thread but I am starting NYCOM this august and had a few questions that only current students could really answer. I had read the handbook and it says that we NEED a laptop...is that really the case? Also, does anyone know how long it takes to get the financial aid award letter? the office in financial aid is being a real pain. I've read in a few other posts that we need some medical gear, stethoscope, bp cuff, etc. do we need to get these things ASAP? Lastly, the changes in policy that everyone keeps posting about seem a bit intimidating, but in terms of failing tests, is it a common event in classes hence the alarm in the new policy or is it more for the principle of things? Thanks !!!

 

[HunterGatherer]

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Hey guys, don't mean to barge in on your thread but I am starting NYCOM this august and had a few questions that only current students could really answer. I had read the handbook and it says that we NEED a laptop...is that really the case? Also, does anyone know how long it takes to get the financial aid award letter? the office in financial aid is being a real pain. I've read in a few other posts that we need some medical gear, stethoscope, bp cuff, etc. do we need to get these things ASAP? Lastly, the changes in policy that everyone keeps posting about seem a bit intimidating, but in terms of failing tests, is it a common event in classes hence the alarm in the new policy or is it more for the principle of things? Thanks !!!

It's good to have a computer for email, powerpoints, etc. but in the lecture curriculum there was never a need to have a computer on campus. You can borrow laptops for 3 hours at a time from the library. I no longer bring my laptop to class since it is just a distraction most of the time.

Can't remember when i got my fin aid letter last year. As long as you completed all forms, FAFSA, etc. there should be no worries here.

I would get a nice stethescope for $100-$200. Don't go crazy on buying expensive BP cuffs, otoscopes and opthalmascopes. i would get a nice stethescope from the reps that visit NYCOM in the first week of school and also a cheap BP cuff ($40-$60). otoscope, opthalmascope can be purchased on ebay and I'd get a bag to carry everything from Target, Walmart or whatever discount store you like. i kept everything under $300 but I know some people who purchased the most expensive items from the reps and spent $800+

Failing exams: Yes it happens in med school. It does not have to be you. We are having exams more frequently now so that should make things better. I imagine that the common denominator in failing would be falling behind in studies. Don't fall behind. Also there is no longer the safety net of failing.

 

[nyc55]

Does anyone PLEASE have last year's exam? I like that we finally had a noodle quiz again but I love using an old exam to gauge how well I'm doing.

hi guys,

here's last year's test, for whatever reason the answers did not come with the test, sorry!

 

[Dave C]

No need for a laptop, all the notes are printed.

 

[JasonUD]

hi guys,

here's last year's test, for whatever reason the answers did not come with the test, sorry!

Actually I think that's the third years test again from the old curriculum. If you look at the Still sight, the answer key for 2009's exam has 100 questions and this one only has 75.

 

[emlopez2]

hi guys,


could someone that went to the derm lecture this morning with dr hoffman tell me what the review was like that she gave at the end? looks like it wasnt streamed.
i appreciate the help!

good luck🙂

If you go to the nycom's old still sight you can stream Hoffmans lecture from last year. The lecture is exactly the same with the same review at the end that we got this year.

 

[HunterGatherer]

If you go to the nycom's old still sight you can stream Hoffmans lecture from last year. The lecture is exactly the same with the same review at the end that we got this year.

I did not look at the stream from 2009 but I did attend the lecture last week. Attached is the topic list from the review. I only managed to get details on some topics since she was going at a fast pace. The review took about 25 min.

Please check for errors for your own benefit.

Let me know if it matches the 2009 stream.

 

[PlasticMan]

I did not look at the stream from 2009 but I did attend the lecture last week. Attached is the topic list from the review. I only managed to get details on some topics since she was going at a fast pace. The review took about 25 min.

Please check for errors for your own benefit.

Let me know if it matches the 2009 stream.

Thanks, HG.

BTW, Scandalis has been appointed Dean; of course we were only told after it was done. 🙄

 

[HunterGatherer]

when applying for private loans (not grad Plus) does the money come in from the financial aid office? Is there paperwork to fill out in the financial aid office? Thanks.

 

[Stan Savarese]

Is there anyone who didnt expect Tom Scandalis to get the position?😛

For the incomming students - One of the, perhaps THE core problem at NYCOM is that we only get back ~$20,000 of the $40,000ish we pay. NYCOM is expensive for its quality of education because half of your money goes to subsidize undergraduate cooking students and flowerbeds NYIT. Some folks have wanted this to change, but the President of NYIT gets the final say in picking the dean. Unsurprisingly, though the selection proccess was pretty handicapped already, he has been widely expected to pick Scandalis - who never completed a residency and can regularly be seen driving away from the bar tipsy after drinks with his students - for his loyalty and disinterest in re-negotiating this contract in a way that could have gotten us either lower tuition or twice the medschool for what we have been paying.

Well, at least I'm graduating.

 

[nvshelat]

Is there anyone who didnt expect Tom Scandalis to get the position?😛

For the incomming students - One of the, perhaps THE core problem at NYCOM is that we only get back ~$20,000 of the $40,000ish we pay. NYCOM is expensive for its quality of education because half of your money goes to subsidize undergraduate cooking students and flowerbeds NYIT. Some folks have wanted this to change, but the President of NYIT gets the final say in picking the dean. Unsurprisingly, though the selection proccess was pretty handicapped already, he has been widely expected to pick Scandalis - who never completed a residency and can regularly be seen driving away from the bar tipsy after drinks with his students - for his loyalty and disinterest in re-negotiating this contract in a way that could have gotten us either lower tuition or twice the medschool for what we have been paying.

Well, at least I'm graduating.

I continually have this nightmare that NYCOM is going to lose accreditation and I won't get a degree and I will have spent all this money for nothing and no other schools will accept me and I'll be this poor bum on the corner of street with a sign saying "Will perform physicals for food"... (or alcohol)..

10 American dollars says that Elkowitz gets appointed Assistant Dean by Scandalmore. Ah, the old boys club...

 

[PlasticMan]

I continually have this nightmare that NYCOM is going to lose accreditation and I won't get a degree and I will have spent all this money for nothing and no other schools will accept me and I'll be this poor bum on the corner of street with a sign saying "Will perform physicals for food"... (or alcohol)..

10 American dollars says that Elkowitz gets appointed Assistant Dean by Scandalmore. Ah, the old boys club...

Next they will have us wearing uniforms and running laps at 6am. Didn't we sign up for New York College of Military? All these changes seem to be pushing NYCOM towards a more regimented atmosphere... 👎

 

[gobiggreen]

Scandalis never completed a residency? Wow...what the hell is he even doing here let alone as a dean.

 

[PlasticMan]

Is there anyone who didnt expect Tom Scandalis to get the position?😛

For the incomming students - One of the, perhaps THE core problem at NYCOM is that we only get back ~$20,000 of the $40,000ish we pay. NYCOM is expensive for its quality of education because half of your money goes to subsidize undergraduate cooking students and flowerbeds NYIT. Some folks have wanted this to change, but the President of NYIT gets the final say in picking the dean. Unsurprisingly, though the selection proccess was pretty handicapped already, he has been widely expected to pick Scandalis - who never completed a residency and can regularly be seen driving away from the bar tipsy after drinks with his students - for his loyalty and disinterest in re-negotiating this contract in a way that could have gotten us either lower tuition or twice the medschool for what we have been paying.

Well, at least I'm graduating.

Can anyone else confirm this? Dunno if this is just hearsay.

 

[PlasticMan]

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