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Ohio University Vs. Des Moines University

Discussion in 'Medical Students - DO' started by Navy Corpsman, May 2, 2000.

  1. Navy Corpsman

    Navy Corpsman Junior Member 10+ Year Member

    Apr 12, 2000
    Greetings, all:

    I am in need of some input here. Ohio University is a great school: good faculty, curriculum, setting, etc. Des Moines University is a school that I am not very well informed about, so I welcome any thoughts about this institution from any current or future students. If you have information regarding Ohio University as well, then please feel free sharring. Thanks in advance.

    All to wife.
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  3. ABA BOY

    ABA BOY New Member

    May 1, 2000
    Navy Corpsman,
    I personally prefer Ohio University to Iowa because of their smaller class size and great clinical rotation sites. I have not heard anything bad about Ohio University except the rural condition of Athens where the school is locate which offers an excellent study environment.
  4. ewagner

    ewagner Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    Nov 22, 1998
    Athens is in a really nice area, DesMoines is DesMoines. Both schools are well respected, but I would bet that most people agree that the Ohio university CORE is superior to Des Moines. Just an opinion.
  5. qqqqqq

    qqqqqq Junior Member 10+ Year Member

    Feb 20, 2000
    Ohio U, no question. Have heard very good things about their clinicals. The clinical years at DMU seem sketchy. Have heard students are responsible for setting up some of their own rotations. My family doc in IL teaches students from University of Illinois. He has had a couple of students from DMU set up clinicals with him. He said there was a noticible difference in how much experience they had compared the the U of I students. But that's just one docs opinion, don't know how much truth there is to that.
    Ohio just sounds like a better bet. Plus, I've heard Athens is an alright college town.
  6. scoren

    scoren Member 10+ Year Member

    Feb 8, 1999
    Des Moines, IA
    Don't know much about Ohio, but I can tell you that you can rotate through the Ohio core as a DMU student.

    Our OMM department rocks.

    If you have any specific questions, feel free to email me.
  7. Michaelis

    Michaelis Junior Member 10+ Year Member

    Dec 6, 1999
    West Des Moines, IA
    I did a summer research fellowship at OUCOM a couple of years ago, which ended with the opportunity for me to interview at OUCOM. I had, however, already confirmed my acceptance at then-UOMHS (now Des Moines University). I am currently a second-year student at DMU. Both are great schools. OUCOM does have smaller classes and certainly, as part of a larger university setting, has a nicer physical plant than DMU. Athens is an OK college town, but there isn't much to do besides standard college-town stuff (a lot of bars, restaurants, etc.) The nearest large city is about 1.5 hrs away. Des Moines, on the other hand, is a good-sized city, nearly half a million (including the suburbs) with large-city benefits, and the people are also pretty friendly. Regarding rotations, DMU students can elect to do their rotations--all of them if they wish--in the Ohio CORE, which is an excellent system of hospitals. Alternatively, DMU students can elect to rotate in the Michigan OPTI, under the auspices of Michigan State U. COM. As well, we have core clinic and hospital sites in various cities throughout IA, some in TX, OR, MO, WI, PA, NJ, and MN. DMU students match to a clinic and hospital in one of these core sites for a total of 8 months in the third year. The remaining 4 months of the third year are spent in core elective rotations, which you must arrange. The benefit to this is that you can go wherever, geographically, you wish, so long as you can find a sponsoring doc/hospital (typically not a problem). Fourth year is all up to you, regarding the scheduling of rotations (when and where). There are certain guidelines by which you must abide (i.e.-you can't do 12 mos of peds only), but there is a great deal of latitude with respect to when and where you can schedule various rotations. Most find this a benefit since many students, those from out-of-state (the majority of DMU students), can return to their home states for rotations. Regarding our students' performance on rotations, I heard excellent reports regarding DMU students rotating in OUCOM sites from a variety of OUCOM faculty and clinicians--this was one of the primary reasons I chose DMU (i.e.-chose not to interview w/OUCOM). Most saliently, DMU students were commended for having a superior knowledge of OMM skills and for having a great general clinical working knowledge. I have heard these sentiments echoed by MSUCOM clinicians also. As well, DMU students are often commended for having good practical skills, most especially for having good history-taking skills and for having basic surgery skills (knot-tying, suturing, IV placement, NG placement, Foley cath placement,lesion excision,etc) PRIOR to rotations. DMU is a College of Osteopathic Medicine and SURGERY, so we do have some exposure to surgical techniques before rotations (i.e.- labs in basic aseptic technique--scrub lab--and basic surgical skills--dry-lab and animal lab). Our surgical education is further enhanced by our contact with the surgical residents from Des Moines General/Mercy hospitals. Because U. of Iowa (MD) students often rotate is Des Moines hospitals as well, DMU students are often compared to them. Regarding this comparison, many clinicians remark on DMU students' history-taking skills as superior. My friend's father, who is a D.O. from DMU, and her uncle, an M.D. from U. of Iowa, and aunt,an M.D., have both DMU and U. of IA students rotate with them in their mutual practice. Hands down, they say DMU students possess a friendlier demeanor with patients, are better equipped in terms of H and P skills, and have a better working clinical knowledge, plus we have manipulative skills(scoren's right, we do have a kick-ass OMM department and the board scores to prove it). I have heard other local clinicians, both M.D. and D.O., echo these sentiments as well. Anyway, I hope some of this information helps. Obviously, I think DMU is a good school (or I wouldn't be here). But OUCOM is a good school, as well. At the end of the day, you need to decide what factors are most important to you in choosing a school (i.e.- nicer facilities--choose OUCOM; more autonomy in choosing rotation sites--DMU; etc).

  8. Navy Corpsman

    Navy Corpsman Junior Member 10+ Year Member

    Apr 12, 2000
    Thank you all for taking the time to reply. It is a tough decision, but I think that I am leaning more towards OU. Michaelis, thank you for the information on DMU, I greatly appreciate your efforts.

    The shortest will ever written:all to wife.
  9. study buddy

    study buddy Junior Member 10+ Year Member

    Apr 14, 2000

    Actually there are two places about 45 min from Athens that you can go and get what you need (malls, national chain stores). But Athens has a lot too. I've never had problems at least. It is rural, but it's a beautiful campus. I don't know much about DMU, but i like OU a lot. Apparently you can go through CORE either way, which is good because there are a lot of good hospitals to choose from. I should tell you though, that they use a lottery system when picking the 3rd/4th year sites, so you may not get the place you want. But people are allowed to trade with others and i think most people are happy in the end. I don't like that part too much, but i think you can do well at any of the hospitals. Also, i think you can rotate through some of the other nearby hospitals, including Grant's trauma center in Columbus and Cleveland Clinic hopsitals.

    Other than that, everything else (classes, profs, clinical experience) is pretty good in my opinion. There is a new curriculum this year (with the obligatory glitches) but it will all be taken care of by next year when you start.

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