Okami WW Game Thread

[samac]

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I’m most interested in Visc or sporty at this point.
I need to go back and read through sportys stuff.

 

[Truenamer]

I’m most interested in Visc or sporty at this point.
I need to go back and read through sportys stuff.

How does genny feel to you?

 

[samac]

How does genny feel to you?

Honestly? Not a god damn clue.
I don’t like her pushes today but I have no idea how to read her

 

[Truenamer]

Honestly? Not a god damn clue.
I don’t like her pushes today but I have no idea how to read her

Glad I'm not the only one who's stressed and confused <3

 

[samac]

I know I irritate sporty on a regular basis (sorry sport sport, it’s not intentional) but I think the most she gets irritated with me is when she’s wolfing (marvel).
That might be memory bias tho

 

[Truenamer]

Just realized that I'll have to do vote analysis without shorty's spreadsheets as a crutch

dislike

 

[genny]

Honestly? Not a god damn clue.
I don’t like her pushes today but I have no idea how to read her

Look, I know you’re suspicious because I was voting with wolves today but I didn’t actually argue that True should be yeeted, and I stopped fluff from switching to a tie. wolf!genny wouldn’t act like that.

 

[samac]

I’m still drowning in patients so if someone could iso sporty with interactions with O2 and same for Visc I would very much appreciate the help.

Also, love y’all. Probably my last game for a while. I need a break.

 

[Crayola227]

******
I am woof pls
******

I want that mechanic, post humous wolf conversion. Could be super rad. But also, I love conversion and I love death mechanics.

 

[Crayola227]

I don't realistically see an F3 scenario with samac alive. Not in a mountainous game. If wolves keep her alive, it's on their dollar, I guess.

No, but consider any F3 that involved another villager voting WITH me, vs voting me for the loss. My point is, that an F3 will almost never consist of 2 players "in the village bloc." They will always take someone like me, genny, SP, mkg, visc, etc to the end game, and if it's a typical blocc person as the other villager, if villagers in the blocc don't figure out how to work with the "sketch" villagers, then the game is lost. We can't act like villagers outside the blocc don't matter somehow, is my point.

 

[SportPonies]

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[SportPonies]

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[Crayola227]

Oh gotta help yeet the wolf

contingency yeet samac

Hey wolves,

I don't buy for a second that Samc isn't a wolf. You might think these these other people are joking, but I'm not.

##### contingency yeet samac for realz ####

 

[Animal Midwife]

No, but consider any F3 that involved another villager voting WITH me, vs voting me for the loss. My point is, that an F3 will almost never consist of 2 players "in the village bloc." They will always take someone like me, genny, SP, mkg, visc, etc to the end game, and if it's a typical blocc person as the other villager, if villagers in the blocc don't figure out how to work with the "sketch" villagers, then the game is lost. We can't act like villagers outside the blocc don't matter somehow, is my point.

That's why we don't let the game get to F3. Find villagers quickly and relentlessly. Every cycle is hard hitting, especially D1. Most importantly, seek to clear yourself.

 

[genny]

@genny, why are you feeling bad about me?

This is the question I purposefully skipped to see if zuri or woxy would make a push for True.

yes, it's a very wolfy thing you do as a villager.

I did actually rebut zuri’s points about True.

So that’s why I voted where I did, to see what would happen, not because I actually thought we should yeet True.

It didn’t quite do what I wanted though because I wasn’t expecting fluff to offer to make the tie and now I don’t know what to do with that. Sporty also did test the waters about vote movement too.

 

[Crayola227]

Look, I know you’re suspicious because I was voting with wolves today but I didn’t actually argue that True should be yeeted, and I stopped fluff from switching to a tie. wolf!genny wouldn’t act like that.

Yeah I'm just not feeling wolf genny energy. I could be in her pocket. I know I put her on the ccc, but still.

Also, as this genny points out, she's been helpful. Working that out is kind of hard to explain exactly, because Wolf Genny is NOT helpful in a way that is not terribly obvious, it's less that she's actively harmful and more that she passively allows bad stuff to happen, or her active moves to hurt village are not very obvious without more info. More obvious in hindsight that way.

So the helpfulness of Village Genny is also sort of subtle in the way her lack of obvious harm/help is when wolf, and that helpfulness may not take the form of super accuracy in identifying wolves. What I'm trying to say, is that it's not always the result of genny action that shows her Aff, more like how she goes about things she does that are helpful/harmful to village.

Now, I feel confident that this is genny meta, the difficulty lies in determining what her intent is in a game, because like I said, the results may not be super obvious. Like Wolf Genny could vote ojt a wolf, and Villager Genny could be accidentally defending wolves.

Anyway I get village vibe genny so far, and deadD1!Zenge reads have not failed us so far, so I overall hesitate to abandon them over genny specifically.

 

[justafluff]

I bought the argument against True and started feeling bad about WO2, which is why I thought about moving. I also wanted to see what happens if True was in actual danger

 

[genny]

that helpfulness may not take the form of super accuracy in identifying wolves.

This is the nicest way anyone has ever said I suck at wolf hunting lol

 

[Animal Midwife]

I want to note that anyone can publicly "blocc" others. If you trust other villagers that haven't been brought up, say so. Make a case to get them inducted in the trust fund. This circles back to me asking to be defended D1.

 

[Crayola227]

That's why we don't let the game get to F3. Find villagers quickly and relentlessly. Every cycle is hard hitting, especially D1. Most importantly, seek to clear yourself.

Well, the odds are higher if we have enough "sketch" people and not enough "blocc" people. What you're saying isn't wrong, I'm just saying we can't act like some villagers matter more than others just based on our own abilities to read them.

I can't read sport sport for crap generally, but if she is village this game she matters as much as anyone else.

 

[zuriburi]

This game is completely fried my brain I just saw fluff brushing her teeth earlier than normal and thought “wolfy”

 

[samac]

I want to note that anyone can publicly "blocc" others. If you trust other villagers that haven't been brought up, say so. Make a case to get them inducted in the trust fund. This circles back to me asking to be defended D1.

very good point and I would be happy to listen to village cases for other people.

I know I said I feel good about fluff but I also get weird vibes from her voting true but saying she wasn’t wolf reading him? Am confused.

 

[SportPonies]

I want to note that anyone can publicly "blocc" others. If you trust other villagers that haven't been brought up, say so. Make a case to get them inducted in the trust fund. This circles back to me asking to be defended D1.

That is not what the post was about. I have deleted them. Carry on with the game.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Well, the odds are higher if we have enough "sketch" people and not enough "blocc" people. What you're saying isn't wrong, I'm just saying we can't act like some villagers matter more than others just based on our own abilities to read them.

I can't read sport sport for crap generally, but if she is village this game she matters as much as anyone else.

Then let's work hard to focus on the people who aren't cleared to see if it makes sense.

We got Oxy and he had no wolf game to reference and minimal posts. We can get the rest with similar efforts.

 

[WildZoo]

This game is completely fried my brain I just saw fluff brushing her teeth earlier than normal and thought “wolfy”

**********
One of us
One of us
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[Animal Midwife]

very good point and I would be happy to listen to village cases for other people.

I know I said I feel good about fluff but I also get weird vibes from her voting true but saying she wasn’t wolf reading him? Am confused.

Not sure what to do about that. Obviously I've been pinged but I think that's still an unpopular opinion.

 

[justafluff]

very good point and I would be happy to listen to village cases for other people.

I know I said I feel good about fluff but I also get weird vibes from her voting true but saying she wasn’t wolf reading him? Am confused.

I didn’t vote True? I stayed where I was.

 

[justafluff]

Also I was second on the WO2 train

 

[samac]

I didn’t vote True? I stayed where I was.

Oh
Im dumb and got confused
See im wolfy

 

[Crayola227]

This is the nicest way anyone has ever said I suck at wolf hunting lol

Was definitely not trying to say that!!!

Just, that I've also seen games lost because people applied the logic of "anyone defending a wolf is a wolf, and anyone attacking a wolf is village" and sometimes villagers are pushing or defending the wrong people.

That's why I'm saying it's someone's *process* that matters most.

Like, not sure where we are on Zuri, but that is an example where someone's process is helping them.

I go by that one mafia wiki article, about looking for intent to deceive. That's the real key.

 

[zuriburi]

I’m still leaning visc, but I’ve been playing okami for the vibes and I came across this pretty damning evidence of sport ponies looking pretty friendly with a wolf…

Spoiler: HUGE Okami spoilers

iCloud

 

[samac]

What is samac doing?
Getting people sent to her psychiatric hospital who swallowed 5 batteries WITHOUT AS MUCH AS A GOD DAMN XRAY
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

 

[samac]

Would have been ballsy I think if there are only 2 wolves for both to camp on Zuri and attach themselves to each other like that. If there are 3 there very well could be 2 on the zuri wagon.

Feel good about AM and fluff. AM would have tried to pry me off my vote and I don’t think fluff wound have bussed that early.
Feel pretty good about true, but I know he knows his antibussing stance has gotten him steam rolled. I think if he saw the writing on the wall he would bus. I don’t think there was clearly writing on the wall when he voted us though?
I feel pretty good about cray. I think there’s some level of paranoia with the sheep me and AM thing as an easy out as a wolf even if it lead to bussing but that is far from the most likely scenario in my head.
I feel pretty good about zuri. I dunno, the effort over this last day feels genuine.
I feel luke warn about genny. going With Zenge’s read I wanna push her village. I’m just really really not good at reading her. I’m not sure if I’ve ever caught her wolfing?

This once again leads me to Visc vs sporty. I’m finally caught up with patients so I’ll se what I can find.

If I was going to pick a busser on O2 I lean towards true, I think. Then cray.

 

[samac]

POE: True (obviously), Zuri, Visc
I think I feel ok about: Fluff, AM, Samac
Leaving neutrals as: Genny, Sporty, Cray

Cray I especially don't know what to do with because I keep finding that 50-70% of her posts I agree with and the rest make no sense to me

Perfect 3s.
Here’s the fun part. 2 wolves? I bet one is in Poe and one is in neutrals. 1? If I was a noob wolf I’d probably go neutrals.

 

[samac]

Hm? Were you not planning on checking in at some point?

Mostly was an actual apology for being absent/not even seeing until now

Welp this is the only interaction between Visc and O2

And after going back through O2s post I take back the true could be bussing thing
Jk
If that was all wolfy theater true set himself up to never be trusted again.

 

[samac]

But O2s direct interactions with sporty?
*drumroll please* nada

 

[samac]

Oh
There’s no direct interactions from sporty to O2 either.
This is it

Does anyone have a wolf!Ox game to refer back to?

Why is O2 not on this list if you’re voting for him?

I would probably vote sporty.

 

[samac]

How I feel at 4:30 am Yeet order

Sporty
Visc
Genny
Zuri
Cray
Fluff
True
AM

 

[samac]

O2 -> genny
Also includes one meme post I couldn’t quote correctly when genny said she gets lunches and he was like wow

So you're saying it's NAI?

 

[samac]

Genny to/about o2

I can't vote woxy, i feel like that's just mean. Dubz seems village. Tempted to vote zenge. i don't really want to yeet anyone today. can i be a conscientious objector today?

I would like to hear more from Vis, cray, and woxy. Especially votes from them.

I could get on board with this

this sounds like how i feel about reading cray most of the time.

that's the paranoid list, not the POE

but if woxy is his wolf partner, then not aggressively pushing a villager means solo noob wolfing if it's a duo. the push got more aggressive as we got closer to close.

 

[samac]

I am home now. I’m going to sleep. I 100% will not be here for night close.
Good night village, good luck and make good choices.

Check interactions, follow the oxygen.
Peace.
✌️

 

[samac]

The only way I’ve ever caught sporty wolfing by the way is interaction checks after flips. If you want to look at examples there’s Marvel with fluff and then there’s MHA with zenge.

 

[kaydubs]

night closed, a write up written. Just waiting for my fellow co mod to join the fun.
cya soon

Spoiler

had “See You, Space Cowboy” in my head but know it’s horribly off theme @WildZoo

​

 

[genny]

Not sure what to do about that. Obviously I've been pinged but I think that's still an unpopular opinion.

Maybe it should be more popular

 

[Viscernable]

Oh damn, good choices were made! … I don’t know what to make of it because all I read yesterday was the tally to see if I had to self prez and memory bad, I don’t remember WO2 interactions. To be honest I really overcommitted, I might do some backreading once I get home tonight but real life might say no and I’ll end up voting based on just WO2 ISO

 

[SportPonies]

Oh damn, good choices were made! … I don’t know what to make of it because all I read yesterday was the tally to see if I had to self prez and memory bad, I don’t remember WO2 interactions. To be honest I really overcommitted, I might do some backreading once I get home tonight but real life might say no and I’ll end up voting based on just WO2 ISO

I don’t like this

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Night Two Write-Up

From his vantage point in Sei'An City, Waka can see Oni Island, looming in the distance. Though the residents of the city are sound asleep, newly freed from a curse, Waka knows they are not necessarily safe. They may be completely oblivious to the danger, but they are at very serious risk.
He senses when the Brush Technique drains out of Amaterasu, just like he'd sensed her temporary triumph in battle. Such is the nature of a back and forth between two deities-- rather, between a deity and a farcical demon with an overinflated ego. The old fox is wily, to be sure, but Waka has faith in Amaterasu. No matter how bleak things seem, how weak she may feel, Waka knows her strength. At least, he hopes he does.
Just to be sure, he plays a quick melody on his flute, hoping the tune will reach Amaterasu and hearten her. Worry not, ma cherie. The darkest hour precedes the dawn.


Dead is @samac, who was Gekigami, VILLAGE Brush Technique #12 (Thunderstorm)

Players
1. @justafluff
3. @Animal Midwife
4. @genny
5. @Crayola227
8. @Viscernable
9. @zuriburi
11. @Truenamer
14. @SportPonies

Banished Forever
2. @WorthlessOxygen, WOLF Brush Technique (Iceblast)
6. @Zenge142, VILLAGE Brush Technique (Greensprout)
7. @WildZoo, VILLAGE Brush Technique (Crescent)
12. @samac, VILLAGE Brush Technique (Thunderstorm)

 

[SportPonies]

Maybe it should be more popular

I agree her play last night was…. Odd. I’m just having a really hard time seeing her as wolfy with the cadence of her posts.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Sorry for the delay. I was asleep.

It is now Day 3. Vote will close TOMORROW, 8/22, at 10 p.m. EST/9 p.m. CST.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Maybe it should be more popular

Nah, that's too wolfy at this point when there's other people that can be pressured.