Okami WW Game Thread

[Zenge142]

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Woah woah woah!

How have I shaded you? This hasn’t been my intention in our interactions.

@Animal Midwife where did you feel I was shading you, because I want to set that straight. It wasn’t the case.

 

[Crayola227]

Nope. I'm just referring to the aforementioned three in my post.

Which 3?

 

[samac]

True feels like a high poster but he’s below sporty
Holy ****

 

[Crayola227]

Her posts do tend to stand out, I agree. But I'm not sure how much of that is personal bias after multiple games of losing to or nearly losing to a scum!genny who faded into the background.

No it is not bias.

 

[samac]

No, I wouldn't say often, but I do monitor likes at times.

Honestly nothing I’ve ever thought about doing.
Huh.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I gave wolf reads. Admittedly, not feeling the SP wolf read anymore.

Still eyeing Z. And Dubz, plus or minus Samac. I don't want to go after noobs, but admit WO and Zuri have me concerned.

By my own standards I should have a POE no smaller than 4-6 for 2-3 wolves, but it is still D1. As of late vill reads have been more clear to me than wolf ones. If you read my reads list, my village reads I think are fairly obvious by process of elimination.

And the read is not centered on something I said before rand. You are questioning if I am really so protective of noobs, and it is at best, all we can say is it is NAI. It is not a wolfy lie, because what I am saying now tracks perfectly with what I said outside of any gamestate at all. Unless your theory is that I was wolfing in dead chat as a dead villager. Which even I'm going to tell you is overly paranoid.

I've said this before but the POE doesn't need to be bigger than max wolves + 1. I was also talking about genny in this post though, not you.

 

[Zenge142]

True feels like a high poster but he’s below sporty
Holy ****

Thread Presence vs. Post Count. It can be deceiving.

 

[Crayola227]

Enough to say it's NAI. People forget genny started playing the same time I did. She doesn't have a fear of me.

I thought she pre-dated you. She pre-dates me, and didn't we both play our first game together?

 

[Truenamer]

True feels like a high poster but he’s below sporty
Holy ****

Recency bias

 

[Crayola227]

Feels wolfy

Hmmm

Can you explain why?

 

[samac]

@zuriburi @WorthlessOxygen @justafluff
More posts pls

 

[Zenge142]

@zuriburi @WorthlessOxygen @justafluff
More posts pls

Did you just name the pack?

 

[Crayola227]

It did feel a little Wolfy paw on the shoulder, guiding you astray upon first reading

Good summary of the TN wolfing style. But he always has that feel of a paw on your shoulder

 

[Zenge142]

Also @Viscernable I would like to hear more

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Animal Midwife where did you feel I was shading you, because I want to set that straight. It wasn’t the case.

In all the posts where you said it's dangerous to defend a top village read D1.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Which 3?

Vis, fluff, and O2.

 

[samac]

Did you just name the pack?

100% it’s 2 people with 4 or less posts and fluff. Game solved let’s go home.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I thought she pre-dated you. She pre-dates me, and didn't we both play our first game together?

No, you started months after me and genny.

 

[Zenge142]

In all the posts where you said it's dangerous to defend a top village read D1.

It wasn’t my intention to shade you. I was just stating my feelings on someone defending another player, when they don’t know their affiliation. I do it. Everyone does it, regardless of affiliation, but it can get people into trouble.

Didn’t mean for that to come across as a shading of you.

 

[Zenge142]

100% it’s 2 people with 4 or less posts and fluff. Game solved let’s go home.

We gotta yeet them first fam 😛

 

[SportPonies]

Hmmm

Can you explain why?

Just the wording

 

[samac]

It wasn’t my intention to shade you. I was just stating my feelings on someone defending another player, when they don’t know their affiliation. I do it. Everyone does it, regardless of affiliation, but it can get people into trouble.

Didn’t mean for that to come across as a shading of you.

*laughs in SPN*
You did all the work for me I didn’t have to do much myself

God dammit my patient is here and late
Mother ****er ldisnsosjdnsosjnddiuddnbfduhdbd
I hate outpatient

 

[Animal Midwife]

It wasn’t my intention to shade you. I was just stating my feelings on someone defending another player, when they don’t know their affiliation. I do it. Everyone does it, regardless of affiliation, but it can get people into trouble.

Didn’t mean for that to come across as a shading of you.

So why the focus on me specifically and not the other people who've been defending their village reads?

 

[Crayola227]

True pls. If anything it’s w/v where I’m doing to sporty what I’m accusing you of doing to AM.

Or Sporty is a wolf gearing you up for a misyeet while I foolishly nod along.

Not sure why this feels wolfy

 

[WildZoo]

True feels like a high poster but he’s below sporty
Holy ****

He actually feels low posty to me lol

 

[Zenge142]

So why the focus on me specifically and not the other people who've been defending their village reads?

You were questioning True on why he wasn’t defending village reads.

I wanted to counter the point because in general I think it can be risky to defend people, even if you’re village reading them. As Samac just pointed out, case and point me in SPN

 

[Zenge142]

Not sure why this feels wolfy

Oho!!! The return of the feels!

 

[WildZoo]

But I can't say wolf True is low posty because he's not so I'm more just like...idk

 

[Animal Midwife]

You were questioning True on why he wasn’t defending village reads.

I said why he wasn't defending me. Specifically. I'm his only village read.

I wanted to counter the point because in general I think it can be risky to defend people, even if you’re village reading them. As Samac just pointed out, case and point me in SPN

How is that an example of it being risky? Not only did you never get misyeeted, you were also nightkilled. Twice (sucessfully).

 

[WildZoo]

How is that an example of it being risky? Not only did you not get misyeeted, you were also nightkilled. Twice (sucessfully).

Idk why this is making me giggle

 

[Truenamer]

He actually feels low posty to me lol

I feel low-posty, I wasn't around all of last evening or earlier this morning.

 

[Crayola227]

I need @Crayola227 to evaluate the susness of this emoji. It gets +10 wolf points from me.

Winky face is wolfy side of neutral. Can be used by villagers, but overall has a wolf bent to it.

 

[Truenamer]

Winky face is wolfy side of neutral. Can be used by villagers, but overall has a wolf bent to it.

😉

 

[Zenge142]

How is that an example of it being risky? Not only did you never get misyeeted, you were also nightkilled. Twice (sucessfully).

Okay fine. Insert other examples of villagers defending wolves and getting misyeeted for it here. I know they exist!

Or hell!!!! Even defending a villager as another villager can get you misyeeted!!!! Remember when Village!Zenge defended Village!Bread and Wolf!Dubz used it to misyeet me!?!?

Defending people can be dangerous. Period.

 

[Zenge142]

I feel low-posty, I wasn't around all of last evening or earlier this morning.

I guess when compared to Zuri, Woxy et. al. You feeeeeeeeel more present

 

[Animal Midwife]

Okay fine. Insert other examples of villagers defending wolves and getting misyeeted for it here. I know they exist!

Are you wolfreading me?

Or hell!!!! Even defending a villager as another villager can get you misyeeted!!!! Remember when Village!Zenge defended Village!Bread and Wolf!Dubz used it to misyeet me!?!?

Yes, I remember that being your first game.

Defending people can be dangerous. Period.

You know what is even more dangerous? A wide POE.

 

[Zenge142]

Are you wolfreading me?

No.

 

[WildZoo]

Okay fine. Insert other examples of villagers defending wolves and getting misyeeted for it here. I know they exist!

Or hell!!!! Even defending a villager as another villager can get you misyeeted!!!! Remember when Village!Zenge defended Village!Bread and Wolf!Dubz used it to misyeet me!?!?

Defending people can be dangerous. Period.

Hmmm what game was this

 

[Animal Midwife]

Are you wolfreading me?

Are you village reading True?

 

[Zenge142]

Are you village reading True?

No.

 

[Zenge142]

Hmmm what game was this

Are you just farming angry reacts!? Here ya go!

Spoiler

😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

 

[Animal Midwife]

No.

Then why are you stopping me from questioning him about not defending me?

 

[Crayola227]

The argument, as I've repeated multiple times, is that being sympathetic that it's hard to misyeet people is weird. Ideally, we don't misyeet anyone. Only one faction benefits from a wider misyeet pool.

I disagree strongly with this, from mutiple levels you can look at it.

Villagers benefit from having wider POEs, as it can help them catch more difficult deep wolves, exclusive or non-benign 3Ps. Also by more people being up for serious discussion, it encourages challenging blocc thinking (the issue with a handful of players having a stranglehold on discussion and playstyles). There's a lot more I could say, but I need to move on.

 

[Zenge142]

Then why are you stopping me from questioning him about not defending me?

I just disagreed with the notion that anyone should expect anyone to defend anyone else. Regardless of anyones affiliation.

 

[Zenge142]

😉

Wolfy 😉

 

[Crayola227]

Huh. I thought Cray was just arguing against salt votes esp when the salt votes are directed towards low hanging fruit.

This

 

[Crayola227]

No. That was an argument Cray was having with herself. Which also isn't a viewpoint that is relevant because never/rarely being misyeeted by village isn't LHF. LHF get misyeeted, a lot. Ask me how I know.

Re-iso her and tell me if anything changes.

Nope

 

[Crayola227]

Why haven't you been defending me from fluff or Cray?

This is just such a weird question I can't even

 

[Crayola227]

I don't think fluff has been really attacking you, just disagreeing with you. There's a difference.

And I would have to understand what Cray is trying to say to formulate a defense.

Salt votes are lazy. Try harder.

 

[Crayola227]

I see you've learned your lesson from last game 😛

What lesson is that?