Okami WW Game Thread

[Crayola227]

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Huh.
Do I have my noob takedown glasses tinted wrong?

Yours are probably fine, mine are definitely ****ing with me

 

[Crayola227]

No, I literally asked you about voting once. My main focus has been why youo had no wolfreads until five minutes ago.

It is you that's been obsessed with vote timing this game, not me.

This is a forced read and you're deep in my POE now.

Will have to try to figure out why AM is on visc now instead of fluff. Because other village reads like samac say no?

I don't know, my whole anti LHF thing I feel just got Zenge yeeted and for once in my sad life, despite my paranoia giving me a bad read of Zenge and WZ (if only my WZ sus could have kept her alive), I am jiving with samac and AM and I'm basically willing to vote where they do. Visc looks bad to me, but then again so do WO and Zuri, plus or minus fluff. I see the wolfy stuff with fluff but she does feel different to me this game than the last game. TN worries me too, but again doesn't feel like last game. Paranoid of SP and genny.

MOST
Visc?
WO, Zuri
Fluff, TN
Genny, SP
Samac, AM
LEAST

If I'm forgetting someone is playing that's probably pretty elucidative.

The question mark on Visc is that I don't really know how to prioritize her compared to my other wolf reads.

Emotionally speaking, I do not want to vote my top 3 tiers because of this ridic noob issue of mine. Visc still feels like a noob to me, but less of a noob than the others so that's probably one reason I am voting there. Feels less mean but still mean.

I always say being mean shouldn't factor into the game, and really, if I had a better read on people and felt more confident then I wouldn't feel bad at all. But I don't so I do.

If I leave noobs off, that leaves me with SP or genny, or samac last. Voting them at least wouldn't feel mean. Voting AM always feels good because I hate losing to Wolf AM more than any player, but that's not a reason to vote her and if she flips village and I had let that feeling cloud my judgement too much it makes me a giant fraking boob that screwed things up.for village. Better to lose to her than do that frankly.

Voting samac feels mean a bit because I'm trying not to auto wolf read her.

 

[Crayola227]

I do think there’s a good chance with O2 being a wolf.

Hmmmm

 

[Crayola227]

I really don't want Zenge to die d1 if he's Village though, especially since I enjoyed the highposting and don't want him to revert back to lurking, so I'm just sad all around

Just want to say, that the recency bias being what it is, this event should not only make Zenge a little harder to misyeet yet time, but should also make it easier for him to highpost without getting as much sus. So there is that upside.

 

[Crayola227]

Unyeet zuri yeet O2

Bleh

Why did people think this might be wolfy?

 

[Crayola227]

Genny what you doin
Where you goin
What’s going on in that cat brain

Ugh I wanna say samac is vill, but this gives me feels

 

[Crayola227]

When was I obsessed with vote timing? The fact that I didn't vote anyone up until 5 min ago, doesn't mean that I wasn't wolf reading anyone. I had a full afternoon to think things through, and I tried to see if Cray had indeed said something about "some people are hard to misyeet" which she did not. Which made your saying that she did feel wolfier.

Omg what if samac and AM wolfing??

Would they want a Zenge misyeet? Would they kill Dubz? I don't know the answers to these questions

 

[Crayola227]

I don’t know how I feel about cray’s
Samac wolf
Oh wait I’m jiving with her she not wolf
To samac wolf
To voting o2
Saying haha it was a low hanging fruit reaction test got ya
To ending on o2
Am confused

I am too. I swear it made sense at the time.

 

[Crayola227]

*****************
Day 1: May the Fresh Scent of Flowers Protect You Always Tally

fluff (1) - AM
True ()
Zenge (3) - Zuri, True, Visc
AM (1) - fluff
DubZ (2) - Sporty, WO2
samac ()
Cray ()
WO2 (1) - Cray
zuri (2) - Zenge, samac
Vis (1) - Dubz

leading: @Zenge142
Voting: 11/12
Missing: @genny
Vote closed

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Ok yeah but, gonna say seems reasonable to look at Zenge's wagon and Zenge's reads first for wolves and shelve my paranoia.

 

[Crayola227]

It’s possible. One of those or Vis seems likely. But I’d probably vote true over Vis.

Hmmmm

 

[Crayola227]

Although Fluff doesn’t look great either.

My order of yeeting out would be

Zuri
Woxy
True
Vis
Fluff

Hmmmmm

 

[Crayola227]

I gotta say tho if genny was wolfing I don’t think she would have no voted

She’s village

Noting this. Gonna stick with it

 

[Crayola227]

I get me voting off wagon doesn't look great, but I really didn't follow any of what was happening after p 18 or so. I was focused on proving to myself why AM felt pingy and that's all I had time for.

This feels weird

 

[Crayola227]

Also, are we going to leave close till the morning? Yes?
I know it’s mountainous but I would like to still read the thread and comment in the morning before night close

Odd I had to wonder if this was a rojo

 

[Crayola227]

Yeah. But you’ve seen me “keep up the act” post yeet. Why so quick to village read me now?

Hmmm looks bad TN

 

[Crayola227]

Seems like they should cut it out and go find a wolf right

Are they wolfing together or it's theater? Does AM really never vote a pack mate?

 

[Crayola227]

Would be funny if zenge is a wolf tho to see how hard people come at me or dubz.
The one who voted with him to save him? Or his ****posting buddy all day?

This reads pure to me

 

[Crayola227]

TRUENAMER

Hmmmm

 

[Crayola227]

I don't know why you would be, you're clearly a wolf.

Contingency yeet Dubz

Wolf theater on TN's part perhaps?

 

[Crayola227]

Y'all he's joking about wolf reading me so I don't get NK'd

Oh

 

[Crayola227]

No, I thought you would be the one killing me

If this is actually true, then it's a different light to see TN'S vote on Dubz, tho. I do that as a wolf constantly it is an amazing amazing thing. People somehow it never gets old, they never stop expecting you won't vote someone you will NK. I know TN knows this trick, we discussed it in dead chat last game iirc.

 

[Crayola227]

Well, he's lost the beginnings of a card on me, but I'll be willing to go for anyone else on his list tomorrow.

Un-contingency-yeet Dubz

Noting this, want to see if TN lived up to this promise

 

[Crayola227]

Zuri feels worse in light of this. Started to feel bad about Vissy toward the end there.

That isn't enough, but I'm not sure where to go from there. Sporty? Cray??

Explain why SP and myself. Give a reason besides "favored wolf misyeets" "easy to get paranoia going on." Because it feels like you're throwing my name in the mix outta nowhere like last game.

 

[Crayola227]

What are your cases for both of them? The latter two.

Hmmm, AM picked up on that. I can't get over the fact it feels like she's villaging. Nice.

 

[Crayola227]

I can think of someone

Did the pack kill wz to set up tn? They had so many reasons so yeah no idea.

 

[Crayola227]

Please, even I can tell that I'm different this game from last game

Pretty decent answer tho

 

[Crayola227]

Well, if you can tell that means you're perceptive enough to change your behavior 🙂

But this

 

[Crayola227]

Also I very much get that anything I say is going to sound awful at this point but I just would not be able to have convincingly pulled off an intentional misyeet Push if I was a wolf.

This pulls at my heartstrings tho

 

[kaydubs]

Unyeet cray
yeet visc

This is the preferred method of vote formatting. Thank you.

 

[kaydubs]

Day 2: Leap Before You Think Tally

zuri (2)-- True, genny
Cray ()
Visc (4) - AM, Cray, Sporty, zuri
WO2 (1)- samac

7/10

Missing: @Viscernable @justafluff @WorthlessOxygen
Leading: @Viscernable

Vote closes TODAY at 9 p.m. CST (~14.25 hours)

 

[WorthlessOxygen]

What do you think about Zuri?

Honestly feeling better today after reading their posts from last night. Wolfy side of neutral

 

[WorthlessOxygen]

Okay. Who do you want to vote?

Decaffeinated oxy is thinking true but I want to reread end of D1 before committing

 

[WorthlessOxygen]

My gut still says that the zenge/true argument doesn't quite feel v/v. Plus he feels like he's really pushing for what could be easy misyeets with me and zuri

yeet true

 

[samac]

English please

I was saying he keeps putting his votes in wall text and if I was his wolf partner I’d be slapping him.

it's been mentioned in this thread already

Yeah I said it, doesn’t mean he read it.

no i'm pretty sure samac has forgotten everything zenge said this game. lots of forgetting going on.

Because I’m voting for Zenge’s other top wolf read as the other wolf read has tried harder?

Will have to try to figure out why AM is on visc now instead of fluff. Because other village reads like samac say no?

I don't know, my whole anti LHF thing I feel just got Zenge yeeted and for once in my sad life, despite my paranoia giving me a bad read of Zenge and WZ (if only my WZ sus could have kept her alive), I am jiving with samac and AM and I'm basically willing to vote where they do. Visc looks bad to me, but then again so do WO and Zuri, plus or minus fluff. I see the wolfy stuff with fluff but she does feel different to me this game than the last game. TN worries me too, but again doesn't feel like last game. Paranoid of SP and genny.

MOST
Visc?
WO, Zuri
Fluff, TN
Genny, SP
Samac, AM
LEAST

If I'm forgetting someone is playing that's probably pretty elucidative.

The question mark on Visc is that I don't really know how to prioritize her compared to my other wolf reads.

Emotionally speaking, I do not want to vote my top 3 tiers because of this ridic noob issue of mine. Visc still feels like a noob to me, but less of a noob than the others so that's probably one reason I am voting there. Feels less mean but still mean.

I always say being mean shouldn't factor into the game, and really, if I had a better read on people and felt more confident then I wouldn't feel bad at all. But I don't so I do.

If I leave noobs off, that leaves me with SP or genny, or samac last. Voting them at least wouldn't feel mean. Voting AM always feels good because I hate losing to Wolf AM more than any player, but that's not a reason to vote her and if she flips village and I had let that feeling cloud my judgement too much it makes me a giant fraking boob that screwed things up.for village. Better to lose to her than do that frankly.

Voting samac feels mean a bit because I'm trying not to auto wolf read her.

So is the list ranked from least to most village?
And then you land on voting me or AM? Lol.
Also Visc is in the same noob class as me and has played probably the same number of games as me, if not more. We both sit out a fair amount.

Hmmmm

Yeah I didn’t abandon Zenge’s wolf reads completely, I just changed my mind and I’m going for the other one.

Omg what if samac and AM wolfing??

Would they want a Zenge misyeet? Would they kill Dubz? I don't know the answers to these questions

Wolf samac 100% would have wanted a zenge misyeet, but probably would have fed into it, not jumped around trying to save him in the last 3 minutes.
I would not N1 dubz cause her and I haven’t got to play together much and I miss her.

Odd I had to wonder if this was a rojo

It wasn’t. It was commentary on the last game when the thread closed at 7am, locked, and then I was N1’d and pissed that I didn’t get to leave the reads on the thread I want to. I usually don’t hang around too much after close on the weekdays, and catch up in the morning so the game thread closing and locking as I was reading frustrated the **** out of me.

 

[Truenamer]

Just want to say, that the recency bias being what it is, this event should not only make Zenge a little harder to misyeet yet time, but should also make it easier for him to highpost without getting as much sus. So there is that upside.

I can say that after this game it's going to take a lot to get me to vote for Zenge early in a game, I miss highposter-Zengies

 

[Truenamer]

My gut still says that the zenge/true argument doesn't quite feel v/v. Plus he feels like he's really pushing for what could be easy misyeets with me and zuri

yeet true

The chance of me N1ing Dubz is microscopic. And if I did, I sure as hell wouldn't have been messing around with goofy contingency yeets on her. I'm a better wolf than that.

 

[samac]

I think my death would be more because with him flipping village I'm lock clear. Maybe slight chance I'm ~onto something~ but it's mostly that I think.

Why are you lock clear?

Because of the reading card

Yeahhh I don’t feel like I’m ready to clear someone based on someone else’s “reading card”

How are you reading me sport sport?

I’m not.

How do we feel about this interaction before dubz fully died?

 

[samac]

I can say that after this game it's going to take a lot to get me to vote for Zenge early in a game, I miss highposter-Zengies

I won’t vote Zenges D1 unless he’s howling.
I reserve the right to get my read on him until D2

 

[Truenamer]

How do we feel about this interaction before dubz fully died?

I still feel okay to fine about Sporty, but she's in the grouping of people that could conceivably be wolves (versus, like, you).

 

[samac]

The chance of me N1ing Dubz is microscopic. And if I did, I sure as hell wouldn't have been messing around with goofy contingency yeets on her. I'm a better wolf than that.

Eh WIFOM
But I’m not particularly wolf reading you

 

[Truenamer]

I won’t vote Zenges D1 unless he’s howling.
I reserve the right to get my read on him until D2

I have learned my lesson. I really thought that I had developed a good feel for him and I was so excited that I might catch a wolf on day one. 😞

 

[samac]

I still feel okay to fine about Sporty, but she's in the grouping of people that could conceivably be wolves (versus, like, you).

Five bucks says I die tonight lol

 

[Truenamer]

Five bucks says I die tonight lol

No bet, but if I catch a wolf today I can at least make it interesting?

My primary PoE right now is Zuri, Woxy, Vis, and then genny, sporty, Cray after them.

If I name 2/3rds of the players, I have to name the wolves, right?

 

[samac]

No bet, but if I catch a wolf today I can at least make it interesting?

My primary PoE right now is Zuri, Woxy, Vis, and then genny, sporty, Cray after them.

If I name 2/3rds of the players, I have to name the wolves, right?

Issue is we don’t have that high of a misyeet margin
I’d rather lose to a noob who’s trying than one who’s a ghost

 

[Truenamer]

Issue is we don’t have that high of a misyeet margin
I’d rather lose to a noob who’s trying than one who’s a ghost

hrm.

Yeah. Zuri's been here putting the work in, at least.

@justafluff , can you explain to me again why you yeeted him last night fairly off the cuff, then unyeeted him today? I apologize if you've already explained that to AM or someone.

 

[genny]

Issue is we don’t have that high of a misyeet margin
I’d rather lose to a noob who’s trying than one who’s a ghost

I could get on board with this

 

[zuriburi]

Are they wolfing together or it's theater? Does AM really never vote a pack mate?

The specific thing i Brought up is that she does, but the way that I understand her distinction is she’ll only do it it’s already pretty obvious from an info role and there’s a whole train… won’t start a train or vote a pack mate unnecessarily.

 

[samac]

I could get on board with this

Wait why
You were fighting me earlier
Genny you confuse me

 

[samac]

Are they wolfing together or it's theater? Does AM really never vote a pack mate?

Oh I missed this post.
No I do not think AM and fluff are wolfing together.

 

[zuriburi]

I was saying he keeps putting his votes in wall text and if I was his wolf partner I’d be slapping him.

Yeah I said it, doesn’t mean he read it.

fwiw I had read it and simply forgot. (Which I guess also means that I could have a pack yelling at me to fix it and still forget?) I have a tendency to ramble in all settings so getting my votes mixed up in my commentary is an extension of that. as I understand it now, votes should go in separate lines from the commentary, but can be in the same post?