Oklahoma - (Prospective) Class of 2010 part 01

[Quazimodo]

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I notice you edited this post and took out all that crap about being deferred, coming to OU to be somebody's anatomy partner, etc. etc.

I'm glad you realized it looked as nonsensical and poorly written as the rest of us who no doubt saw it.

You assume too much.

While I may not like what I experienced at OU, I think there has been some good qualities to come out of the experience - including hashing it out here. You don't learn much about a program when all everyone says is how great or wonderful it is - bla bla bla - it's mind numbing feelgood sentimentality that is the same everywhere, so what does it tell you, absolutely nothing.

Go back and read some of your classmate's defenses. It is a positive thing to be challenged, to see what it brings out in you, as I've seen what it has brought out in some of you. Some handle adversity better than others. It's clear there is a vibrant dialogue possible anywhere, even at OUt, which is encouraging. I mentioned the deferral and acceptance in jest, and in reflection, I think someone else would want it more than me.

 

[lfesiam]

 

[Jwax]

is getting proposed to! I'm engaged, woohoo! 😍

Now, if only I could get accepted to OU, then life would be PERFECT.

I love the seasame street photo... too funny.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

is getting proposed to! I'm engaged, woohoo! 😍

Now, if only I could get accepted to OU, then life would be PERFECT.

I love the seasame street photo... too funny.

congrats, jwax!!

 

[Non-TradTulsa]

is getting proposed to! I'm engaged, woohoo! 😍
Now, if only I could get accepted to OU, then life would be PERFECT.
I love the seasame street photo... too funny.

Congratulations, Jwax! That's very cool. Obviously, you're on a roll...
you won't have much time to be Mrs. Jwax because you'll be Dr. Jwax before you know it. I'll stay tuned for more good news.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Congratulations, Jwax! That's very cool. Obviously, you're on a roll...
you won't have much time to be Mrs. Jwax because you'll be Dr. Jwax before you know it. I'll stay tuned for more good news.

That's the cool thing about the Dr. title -- it lets you avoid the whole Mrs. issue. 🙂

 

[oudoc08]

is getting proposed to! I'm engaged, woohoo! 😍

Now, if only I could get accepted to OU, then life would be PERFECT.

I love the seasame street photo... too funny.

Much congrats on your soon to be happily buried (err, happily MARRIED) status 🙂

 

[Antigunner]

congrats on the engagement, jwax - hopefully it will be followed soon by congratulations on your acceptance to OU! 👍

 

[MoosePilot]

Well, I withdrew my application from OU. I had an interview scheduled, but due to other acceptances, I decided not to continue. Incredibly tough decision for a Sooner, especially since I was home for Christmas and saw how much the city has revitalized the area. It is unbelievably nicer in that part of town than it used to be. Bricktown is right there and booming. I drove by the school so many times.

I know OU is an incredible school, because I've seen graduates in action at Integris Baptist and other OK hospitals and they're just incredible professionals. I wish you all luck!

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Well, I withdrew my application from OU. I had an interview scheduled, but due to other acceptances, I decided not to continue. Incredibly tough decision for a Sooner, especially since I was home for Christmas and saw how much the city has revitalized the area. It is unbelievably nicer in that part of town than it used to be. Bricktown is right there and booming. I drove by the school so many times.

I know OU is an incredible school, because I've seen graduates in action at Integris Baptist and other OK hospitals and they're just incredible professionals. I wish you all luck!

Well, as someone who might be at OU next year, I can say that it's too bad you won't be joining us. Good luck with your other schools! Where do you think you'll wind up?

 

[MoosePilot]

Well, as someone who might be at OU next year, I can say that it's too bad you won't be joining us. Good luck with your other schools! Where do you think you'll wind up?

Well...

I'm still waiting on one school and I'm looking at how the last 6 months of my current military career is going. I'm thinking of whether I want to commit myself to another 15 or so years of that. Its' going to take some thought.

I'm leaning towards USUHS, but I'm still thrilled to have gotten into UTHSCSA. I've got a lot of friends in TX and specifically in San Antonio, so giving that up for a part of the country I've never lived is going to take more thought and consideration.

Thanks for the well wishes!

 

[Jwax]

Thanks for all the congrats! I'm pretty psyched. Just go the ring re-sized so now it will stay on my finger until the day I die (or until I have to take it off so I can work w/patients). I'll someday in the hopefully not to distant future be Dr. Hamm. Cute, eh? 😍

To moosepilot, sorry you decided you didn't want to go to OU, but glad b/c that might mean there is just one more slot available for me! I'm sure you'll be happy wherever you decide to go. Good luck!

Is it February 19th yet????

 

[lfesiam]

congrats jwax

 

[lfesiam]

poker tonight at my place

byob.

 

[MoosePilot]

Thanks for all the congrats! I'm pretty psyched. Just go the ring re-sized so now it will stay on my finger until the day I die (or until I have to take it off so I can work w/patients). I'll someday in the hopefully not to distant future be Dr. Hamm. Cute, eh? 😍

To moosepilot, sorry you decided you didn't want to go to OU, but glad b/c that might mean there is just one more slot available for me! I'm sure you'll be happy wherever you decide to go. Good luck!

Is it February 19th yet????

Thanks! I hope someone on here benefits from it.

Congrats on the ring 😀

 

[oudoc08]

poker tonight at my place

byob.

poke who?

 

[lfesiam]

poke the neurophysiohisto monster

 

[oudoc08]

poke the neurophysiohisto monster

She's hot. I'd tap that.

 

[lfesiam]

She's hot. I'd tap that.

u sure? i heard ms. IHI is also a beautiful baby

 

[Amxcvbcv]

Looking at our schedule, I'm thinking this semester is going to fly by.

4 weeks... test block... 4 weeks... spring break... 2 weeks... test block... 4 weeks... finals... comprehensive exam, done!

Any advice on how to effectively study neuro?

*insert maniacal laughter since we've once again hijacked the thread*

 

[Amxcvbcv]

Actually, I just thought I'd be the one to break the bad news to you upcoming MS 1s.

Starting with your class, OU will be instituting a comprehensive exam at the end of your first and second years which will be used to determine your final grades. We're doing the exam this year, but it's just a "test" exam. This means that even though you have Gross, Embryo, and Biochem in the fall, you won't know your grade until after the comprehensive exam in May.

Our exam will be that way next year as well, but I guess it won't be such a big deal since we'll be getting ready for the Step I exam anyway.

Welcome to OU.

 

[Napoleon1801]

Actually, I just thought I'd be the one to break the bad news to you upcoming MS 1s.

Starting with your class, OU will be instituting a comprehensive exam at the end of your first and second years which will be used to determine your final grades. We're doing the exam this year, but it's just a "test" exam. This means that even though you have Gross, Embryo, and Biochem in the fall, you won't know your grade until after the comprehensive exam in May.

Our exam will be that way next year as well, but I guess it won't be such a big deal since we'll be getting ready for the Step I exam anyway.

Welcome to OU.

I'd be fine with it, especially if it were just for practice purposes, but I think it's going to suck for us if they tack a grade onto it. We really don't need yet another week of stress applied to that which we already have. I wish I knew more of their rationale for doing this so we could possibly get the class officers to argue some sort of compromise, something like a pass/fail grade like we have with the IMPS course.

 

[oudoc08]

I'd be fine with it, especially if it were just for practice purposes, but I think it's going to suck for us if they tack a grade onto it. We really don't need yet another week of stress applied to that which we already have. I wish I knew more of their rationale for doing this so we could possibly get the class officers to argue some sort of compromise, something like a pass/fail grade like we have with the IMPS course.

Their rationale is legitimate, as far as I'm concerned, with the way they're conducting the exam for our class. That is, we have a comprehensive exam over all of MS2 the week after finals, that does NOT count towards our grade, but gives us an inkling of how we're doing on board preparation. Since the IHI, Pharm and PCM finals are all comprehensive for the year anyways, I don't see how it'll be too big of a deal. But...

I don't see how or why the MS1's should be tested comprehensively or why either class should be under the pressure of having that grade in some way applied to their final.

Let me just say, as a disclaimer, that I haven't heard anywhere except on this board, that the final will be counted in the future, and we just heard from the dean not too long ago on the topic. Maybe it's a new thing, maybe it's an idea that's being floated around, or maybe it's an "around the world" rumor being perpetuated by a bunch of neurotic med students *what, us?" 🙂

In any case, I wouldn't stress to much. Thorough preparation for block exams, lends itself well to comprehensive exam review, and it may be easier to ramp up slowly to Step 1, than to all of a sudden be slapped in the face by it.

All in all, keep in mind, that the administration is in no way, out to "get" anybody. Everything they do academically, they do in the student's best interest, and it may be in our best interest to be a bit humble and accept whatever they're implementing as a bit of wise teaching, rather than to puff out our chests in disdain.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

How foolishly I forget my scientific education; I neglected to note my source. 😛

We (mod 232) got this from Dr. Blair, who I hope we can all agree is a pretty good source.

For you soon to be MS1s, he's the course director for Neuroscience and Physiology.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

Well in the midst of all the shenannigans that followed my acceptance, somehow Aunt Flo has not come to visit my wife yet. After a trip to Wally World verified her absence, it would appear that I will be concurrently enrolled in MSI and fatherhood! Hey what the hell, let's take two of the most time-consuming activities on the planet and try to keep our sanity! 😱

I was already 😱 and now I'm all 😱 😱

Does anyone know if student health insurance covers spouses (spice?)?

It'll be twin girls, I just know it. God will punish me for all my transgressions...

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Well in the midst of all the shenannigans that followed my acceptance, somehow Aunt Flo has not come to visit my wife yet. After a trip to Wally World verified her absence, it would appear that I will be concurrently enrolled in MSI and fatherhood! Hey what the hell, let's take two of the most time-consuming activities on the planet and try to keep our sanity! 😱

I was already 😱 and now I'm all 😱 😱

Does anyone know if student health insurance covers spouses (spice?)?

It'll be twin girls, I just know it. God will punish me for all my transgressions...

Wow, congrats to you, too!

Umm, don't know about student health insurance, but I think you can sign spouses up for the ama or amsa or whatever plans. I don't know how preex works with pregnancy, but make sure you stay continuously enrolled in insurance, no matter what!

 

[Amxcvbcv]

This is the information booklet for the current student health insurance plan.

http://student-affairs.ouhsc.edu/current/hsc-health-enrollment.pdf

They'll accept spouses and children, though that does make it much more expensive.

The school is in the process of exploring bids for a new contract for the next academic year, but according to Kate Stanton, the head of Student Affairs, we will most likely be resigning with Macori. It's decent insurance if you don't have any pre-existing or expensive conditions coming into the deal. There are lots of rumors floating around that it sucks and their customer service isn't very good, but they seem to be just rumors.

Personally, it doesn't work for me, but it might for you. 🙂

 

[Amxcvbcv]

Oh... I almost forgot.

Congratulations! 🙂

There's actually a baby shower in one of our mods tomorrow for one of our classmates. 😛

 

[mshheaddoc]

Well in the midst of all the shenannigans that followed my acceptance, somehow Aunt Flo has not come to visit my wife yet. After a trip to Wally World verified her absence, it would appear that I will be concurrently enrolled in MSI and fatherhood! Hey what the hell, let's take two of the most time-consuming activities on the planet and try to keep our sanity! 😱

I was already 😱 and now I'm all 😱 😱

It'll be twin girls, I just know it. God will punish me for all my transgressions...

Congrats!!!

 

[RachelD]

Well in the midst of all the shenannigans that followed my acceptance, somehow Aunt Flo has not come to visit my wife yet. After a trip to Wally World verified her absence, it would appear that I will be concurrently enrolled in MSI and fatherhood! Hey what the hell, let's take two of the most time-consuming activities on the planet and try to keep our sanity! 😱

I was already 😱 and now I'm all 😱 😱

Does anyone know if student health insurance covers spouses (spice?)?

It'll be twin girls, I just know it. God will punish me for all my transgressions...

Congratulations! I guess you two did a little too much celebrating after your acceptance. 😛 Becoming a parent is a wonderful experience. Best of luck to you and your wife.

 

[Jwax]

Well in the midst of all the shenannigans that followed my acceptance, somehow Aunt Flo has not come to visit my wife yet. After a trip to Wally World verified her absence, it would appear that I will be concurrently enrolled in MSI and fatherhood! Hey what the hell, let's take two of the most time-consuming activities on the planet and try to keep our sanity! 😱

I was already 😱 and now I'm all 😱 😱

Does anyone know if student health insurance covers spouses (spice?)?

It'll be twin girls, I just know it. God will punish me for all my transgressions...

Congrats to you and your wife. Just thank God that you aren't the one who has to carry the baby. I think women who get pregnant during med school are much less fortunate then the men. It seems there are quite a few men in med school w/kids... I assume that the number of females w/kids is significantly lower. Anyways- that was a little off topic. Good luck and congrats again!

 

[putzeled]

Does anyone know if student health insurance covers spouses

The student insurance is crappy coverage. Definitely check out other companies. Someplace like ehealthinsurance.com has several companies that offer better coverage at a better price. Or similar coverage to Macori, but much cheaper.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

I'm not challenging your accusation that Macori's coverage is "crappy", but can you be more specific? I've been trying to advocate a change to something that our more mature population can find useful. As I've said, I can't use Macori's insurance because their DME limits are $500 per year.

What about Macori's benefits doesn't work for you?

 

[lfesiam]

hey amx, the radiation oncology rotation today was awesome man!!! dr. L told me to go back for their tumor board at 12 for the free lunch on thursdays.


i love free food.

another advice: it is possible to eat free for the whole week in medical school, there are mutiple research/interest groups meetings..... just act like you belong, go in and grab the grubs...if you are clever enough, you can even save some for dinner.

 

[putzeled]

I'm not challenging your accusation that Macori's coverage is "crappy", but can you be more specific? I've been trying to advocate a change to something that our more mature population can find useful. As I've said, I can't use Macori's insurance because their DME limits are $500 per year.

What about Macori's benefits doesn't work for you?

Here's the link for macori's plan details on OU's website.
http://student-affairs.ouhsc.edu/current/hsc-health-enrollment.pdf
Just compare macori's deductible, coinsurance percentage, and benefit limits to other plans. You'll find that macori's covergage and prices are simply inferior. For instance, macori's "cheap" plan has a $1,000 deductible, 30% copay, no Rx coverage, $500k lifetime limit, no out-of-pocket limit, and is $460 semi-annual for student only.

In comparison I did a quick search on eheathinsurance.com and found this similar plan: $1000 deductible, 20% copay, no Rx coverage, $1mil lifetime limit, $3,000 out-of-pocket limit, and is $418.60 semi-annually. You get better coverage (lower copay, higher lifetime limit, and an out-of-pocket limit) for less money. The bottom line is that there are better deals to be had out there than macori. You also don't have to limit your search to student specific plans. There are individual/family plans that are also very affordable.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

Here's the link for macori's plan details on OU's website.
http://student-affairs.ouhsc.edu/current/hsc-health-enrollment.pdf
Just compare macori's deductible, coinsurance percentage, and benefit limits to other plans. You'll find that macori's covergage and prices are simply inferior. For instance, macori's "cheap" plan has a $1,000 deductible, 30% copay, no Rx coverage, $500k lifetime limit, no out-of-pocket limit, and is $460 semi-annual for student only.

In comparison I did a quick search on eheathinsurance.com and found this similar plan: $1000 deductible, 20% copay, no Rx coverage, $1mil lifetime limit, $3,000 out-of-pocket limit, and is $418.60 semi-annually. You get better coverage (lower copay, higher lifetime limit, and an out-of-pocket limit) for less money. The bottom line is that there are better deals to be had out there than macori. You also don't have to limit your search to student specific plans. There are individual/family plans that are also very affordable.

I agree with your assessment. 😉 I was afraid your complaints were just the nebulous "Macori sucks!" comments that really had nothing to do with the benefits and more to do with not understanding what facilities to use and how to manage benefits with dependents.

As I've said before and will say again, I would be screwed if my wife hadn't gotten a good job with great benefits (high school teacher). We pay a fair bit more than the Macori plan, but it's an HMO. I get my supplies for $60 a month when they would cost me about $1100 per month out of pocket with no insurance, and that's not even counting prescriptions and office visits for the two of us.

Just in case any of you haven't read the fine print for the OUHSC, if you're a student, you (and only you, not your spouse or children) can go to the Family Medicine Center for basic care free of charge. I guess it's not exactly free, though, since it is included in your student fees. 😛

Anyway... enough for now. Read the .pdf that both I and putzeled linked.

 

[Jalopycat]

another bad thing about macori is that if you want medical care outside of OU's family medicine center, you have to get a referral from them first. They won't give you a referral just because you want to see your regular doctor. Basically, that means ladies have to pay out of pocket for all their annual exams unless they want a resident doing it at OU. That can easily cost $300 (including lab fees). Just something to think about.

I wish I had known about that other health plan that was the same price as Macori. Getting a referral for anything is really time consuming.

 

[huranch]

Hello Sooners!

I just found this thread last night and stayed up late reading it...its so helpful!! Thank you for all the information & congrats to you have already been accepted!

I'm very worried now. I am thrilled to have an interview (woohoo!), but its on Feb 2nd. I know that people do get in then but I have alot of ??? in my application. I'd love any thoughts you all may have....

Worry #1: I took the MCAT twice. First, 11 verbal and 8s in sciences. Second, 9 verbal and 8s in the sciences. Does OU only look at the most recent score? My GPA isn't sparkly either, but I'm hoping they will look at the success I had in my previous career etc.

Worry #2: They won't see me as a true Oklahoman. My entire family is there and I was too until college. Then, I studied in Boston, worked on Wall Street, did my pre-meds in NYC, and now am taking classes in Ireland.

Worry #3: They seem to favor reapplicaants. Is that true or am I readign too much into it?

I'll leave it at that as I have to run to class, but will post more soon...I have sooo many!

Thanks again for taking the time to post all this infomation - its fantastic!!

 

[Antigunner]

Hello Sooners!

I just found this thread last night and stayed up late reading it...its so helpful!! Thank you for all the information & congrats to you have already been accepted!

I'm very worried now. I am thrilled to have an interview (woohoo!), but its on Feb 2nd. I know that people do get in then but I have alot of ??? in my application. I'd love any thoughts you all may have....

Worry #1: I took the MCAT twice. First, 11 verbal and 8s in sciences. Second, 9 verbal and 8s in the sciences. Does OU only look at the most recent score? My GPA isn't sparkly either, but I'm hoping they will look at the success I had in my previous career etc.

Worry #2: They won't see me as a true Oklahoman. My entire family is there and I was too until college. Then, I studied in Boston, worked on Wall Street, did my pre-meds in NYC, and now am taking classes in Ireland.

Worry #3: They seem to favor reapplicaants. Is that true or am I readign too much into it?

I'll leave it at that as I have to run to class, but will post more soon...I have sooo many!

Thanks again for taking the time to post all this infomation - its fantastic!!

Here are my quick responses:

#1: They will look at both of the MCAT scores - I would make sure that you are able to give some sort of explanation for why your score went down the second time. I would try to talk about your career experience, as that is going to set you apart from a lot of applicants.

#2: You are probably correct that you will not be considered in-state, however you have very strong ties. As an out-of-stater who had never even been to Oklahoma before my interview, I can attest to the fact that you do not have to be in-state to get accepted.

#3: I have no idea whether this is true or not - probably some of the others are better equipped to give you an answer on that one.

Hope it helps!

 

[Non-TradTulsa]

I just found this thread last night and stayed up late reading it...its so helpful!! Thank you for all the information & congrats to you have already been accepted!

Hooray - a new customer who likes the thread ! You'll find a lot of help here. The current students know more than I do, but I've learned a lot about the application process at OU this year.

You have some good points and not-so-good points on your application from what I can see. Your first MCAT was adequate. Your second MCAT was pretty marginal, especially for an out-of-state applicant. I know some August re-takers who came up in the one category that needed improvement, but fell in other sections. You'll need to be prepared to explain why you had a bad day overall on your re-take. Even if your overall GPA is not stellar, a good BCPM would help. You got an interview, so obviously you have a shot.

You are an out-of-state applicant since you left the state not just for school. You do have strong ties to the state, however, and that (from what I have seen so far) is a very big plus for an OOS applicant.

On the good side, you've obviously had some interesting life experience in Boston and NYC. Did you go to Ireland for additional classes or were you thinking of applying to an Irish medical school (I don't know what the committee would think about that)? As the oldest member of the Class of 2010 (as far as I know!), I think OU is very serious about getting diversity of age and life experience in the class - that helps you.

I don't know about being a re-applicant - it probably helps with any questions about whether or not you're serious about OU.

Overall, I think your interview is going to be especially important. Make sure you review your own AMCAS carefully and read all of the interview feedback for OU here on SDN. Try to formulate good concise answers to the questions about your app that will obviously be asked. Get a comfortable hotel and get a good night's sleep - anything you can do to look and feel your best on interview day! Good luck to you.

 

[midwest77]

a word of encouragement.....i got a 26, 24, 26 on my MCATs and got in to OU with a scholarship....granted I am a resident but i went out of state for college and my GPA is good so that helped...but just be sure to say why you think you didnt do great and you will be fine. your interview is definitely important but i have faith that you will have so much to talk about with all your activities that you will be fine. good luck

 

[huranch]

#2: You are probably correct that you will not be considered in-state, however you have very strong ties.

This is where I am confused - AAMC told me to apply as an Oklahoma resident as I moved home this summer (before Ireland) and it is the only address I have in the United States. My driver's license and voters registration are from Oklahoma. I've also paid my federal taxes there for the last 3 years?

 

[huranch]

On the good side, you've obviously had some interesting life experience in Boston and NYC. Did you go to Ireland for additional classes or were you thinking of applying to an Irish medical school (I don't know what the committee would think about that)? As the oldest member of the Class of 2010 (as far as I know!), I think OU is very serious about getting diversity of age and life experience in the class - that helps you.


Thanks for all your comments - super helpful.

I'm in Ireland because I wanted to see a socialized medicine in action and had never had the chance to live abroad. I am in the medical program here - but it is totally different than the US system. Mainly, its 5 years not 4 and since I'm 30 I wanted to start now in case I didn't get into a better US program. Anywho, this was all mentioned in my MCAT & my Dean sent OU a letter to let them know he knows that I am applying in the US. Why would OU see that as a negative - it seemed like you thought they would? I hope not...another school I interviewed at actually paired me with a faculty member who had taken the same route.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

hey, guys
i just found the match list for 2004 in an old thread and thought i'd post it here. did anybody get the match list for 2005? can we ask the admissions office for it?

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/sho...p=25&highlight=university+oklahoma+match+list

Oh yeah, scroll down -- the match list starts with post #690. 🙂

 

[Non-TradTulsa]

I'm in Ireland because I wanted to see a socialized medicine in action and had never had the chance to live abroad. I am in the medical program here - but it is totally different than the US system. Mainly, its 5 years not 4 and since I'm 30 I wanted to start now in case I didn't get into a better US program. Anywho, this was all mentioned in my MCAT & my Dean sent OU a letter to let them know he knows that I am applying in the US. Why would OU see that as a negative - it seemed like you thought they would? I hope not...another school I interviewed at actually paired me with a faculty member who had taken the same route.

Sounds like you've handled things very appropriately and have all your bases covered - I'd guess your overseas experience won't be a negative in your case, since you've prepared ahead of time with a Dean's letter. Actually, I admire you a great deal - I would very much like to see medicine in a different system - if OU has a 4th year elective available in the UK, I'm going to jump on it. I imagine your interview will be a very interesting conversation about your experiences! I think you'd be an interesting classmate, and I'm hoping we have a good group of non-traditionals in the Class of 2010. Please keep us updated on your progress and best of luck!

As far as your residency status - I would follow the AAMC's advice and I would contact the registrar/bursar at OU at an appropriate time (early - like right after you're accepted). Since you're an expatriate at the moment, after hearing the details I would imagine you have successfully made Oklahoma your permanent stateside residence. Your situation is far beyond my knowledge base, though!

 

[Jwax]

another bad thing about macori is that if you want medical care outside of OU's family medicine center, you have to get a referral from them first. They won't give you a referral just because you want to see your regular doctor. Basically, that means ladies have to pay out of pocket for all their annual exams unless they want a resident doing it at OU. That can easily cost $300 (including lab fees). Just something to think about.

I wish I had known about that other health plan that was the same price as Macori. Getting a referral for anything is really time consuming.

Just out of curiousity, what's wrong with letting a resident do it? I would. They need the training & it probably won't kill/main me to let them do so. I mean, we're all (hopefully) going to be residents someday & I'd hope that my future collegues would be willing to let me practice my pelvic exams on them.

 

[Non-TradTulsa]

Just out of curiousity, what's wrong with letting a resident do it? I would. They need the training & it probably won't kill/main me to let them do so. I mean, we're all (hopefully) going to be residents someday & I'd hope that my future collegues would be willing to let me practice my pelvic exams on them.

I'm your future colleague, Jwax, but I'm afraid letting you practice pelvic exams on me is a no-go (LOL! Sorry, it's late Friday, and that just made me laugh).

Good for you for your pro-education feelings, though. I understand that male students are often having difficulty in getting competence in gynecological exams because patients have such a strong preference for a female examiner and won't let male students participate.

 

[huranch]

Thank you for all of your help & thoughts.

I love Oklahoma...sincerely, I've lived all over at this point and no place has people who are so loyal to each other and to complete strangers. I also miss OK more than I can say. Europe and NYC are great, but things like decent BBQ and real thunderstorms just don't happen any where else.

Thank you again!!

 

[putzeled]

Thank you for all of your help & thoughts.

I love Oklahoma...sincerely, I've lived all over at this point and no place has people who are so loyal to each other and to complete strangers. I also miss OK more than I can say. Europe and NYC are great, but things like decent BBQ and real thunderstorms just don't happen any where else.

Thank you again!!

Good luck getting in, your maturity and breadth of experience will definitely weigh in your favor in the interview. So, what are your impressions of socialized medicine so far? It would be interesting to hear a first-person account. Especially from someone who is in the medical community, as opposed to a layman.

 

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Just out of curiousity, what's wrong with letting a resident do it? I would. They need the training & it probably won't kill/main me to let them do so. I mean, we're all (hopefully) going to be residents someday & I'd hope that my future collegues would be willing to let me practice my pelvic exams on them.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a resident doing a pelvic exam. It's just my personal preference. There are just some parts of my body (including my perineum) that I don't want my friends seeing! 🙂 I was really just trying to make the point that if you pick Macori, you have to use OU's student health center for everything that is routine.