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exlawgrrl said:jealous of squeezing a pus-filled, stinky abscess. how crazy are you guys? 🙂
I concur (sp?). We're crazy. Crazy like a fox.......
exlawgrrl said:jealous of squeezing a pus-filled, stinky abscess. how crazy are you guys? 🙂
exlawgrrl said:jealous of squeezing a pus-filled, stinky abscess. how crazy are you guys? 🙂
Did anyone figure out what movie that is from??Jwax said:I concur (sp?). We're crazy. Crazy like a fox.......
tsthethird said:i'd like to know what the overall perception of OU is. All things considered, is OU a good medical school. Do most of the students get into their residency of choice. How does OU compare to other medical schools in the area (aside of US NEWS rankings)?
docnms said:i have a general question for this thread on what OU med school is looking for in prospective sudents. this is my background - i have an assoc. with about 35 more hours and 2.85 GPA, went to chiropractic school and obtained my doct. and my b.a. in human biology at the same school. i have been out for a couple of years and i have been thinking of applying to OU med school. i have not taken my MCAT (since its not a requirement for chiropractic application). i have a friend that i have lost contact with that graduated from another chiro. school and went the international rt. and i am not interested in it. so would OU even consider my chiro. degree as an accomplishment? if so, to what degree? thanks for the comments.
tsthethird said:i'd like to know what the overall perception of OU is. All things considered, is OU a good medical school. Do most of the students get into their residency of choice. How does OU compare to other medical schools in the area (aside of US NEWS rankings)?
Quazimodo said:OU doesn't rank well, at least not in the top 75 schools. You should only consider going to OU if you want to spend all of eternity in Oklahoma.
Quazimodo said:OU doesn't rank well, at least not in the top 75 schools. You should only consider going to OU if you want to spend all of eternity in Oklahoma.
Quazimodo said:OU doesn't rank well, at least not in the top 75 schools. You should only consider going to OU if you want to spend all of eternity in Oklahoma.
Quazimodo said:That's fine, attack someone with a different opinion. I can take it.
I did have a crappy interview at OU, and I've had fabulous experiences at other schools. I have 3 acceptances so far, so I do have a choice, and I will make it based on the facts as I see them. In my OPINION, OU has a sub-par program, compared to the other schools I've visited. If that doesn't sit well, maybe you should take some lessons in objectivity. I wouldn't put much stock in what med-students have to say about their school choice, there is so much politics involved if you even think of criticizing your school.
But good luck to you all. You can make the most out of it, and have a good life, as I'm sure you will.
oudoc08 said:Sure, OU would consider your chiropractic degree an accomplishment, however, any previous experience, medical or otherwise, doesn't exempt you from fulfilling other requirements, such as taking the MCAT, and completing required prereq classes. Your GPA is going to be a major drawback, if that is your cumulative including undergrad and doctorate work, and will likely cause your application to be denied regardless of other factors, as OU's minimum GPA for admission is 3.0.
Here is a list of requirements from the OUHSC website.
Applications for admission to the College of Medicine are processed through the American Medical College Application Service (AMCAS). The application is an electronic application and is located at AAMC. The deadline for filing an application with AMCAS is October 15th.
All applicants must be U.S. citizens or hold a permanent visa at the time of application. Minimum requirements to the College of Medicine are 90 semester hours with a cumulative grade point average of 3.0 and a Medical College Admissions Test (MCAT) average score of 7.0.
A candidate for the M.D. degree must have abilities and skills of five varieties; including observation; communication; motor; conceptual, integrative and quantitative; and behavioral and social.
All applicants must have verification of the following prerequisite courses (to be completed by matriculation):
General Zoology/Biology (including lab) - one semester
General Chemistry - two semesters
Organic Chemistry - two semesters
English - three semesters
Physics - two semesters
Anthropology, Psychology, Sociology, Philosophy, Humanities and Foreign Languages (any combination) - three semesters
Histology, Genetics, Embryology, Cellular Biology or Comparative Anatomy (any of these) - one semester
A letter grade of "C" or better is required in prerequisite courses. Pass/Fail grading, advanced placement and CLEP courses are accepted if a subsequent higher course is taken for a letter grade.
Quazimodo said:I can't quantify an opinion for you. If you think 58th is good, and I think it's bad, then where are we?
docnms said:i dont care were one goes to school or what they go to school for. its what you one makes of it. just because someone goes to a school that is ranked by a magazine higher certainly does not mean one will be a better doctor because of it.
Quazimodo said:I can't quantify an opinion for you. If you think 58th is good, and I think it's bad, then where are we?
If you had a chance to go to a top 20 school, where there are limitless opportunities for involvement, and it's much easier to get into your residency of choice, and you have the one-on-one support from the faculty demonstrated by their presence on the interview day, which would you choose?
exlawgrrl said:well, fine, but it makes your posts here rather unhelpful. if you're gonna bash a school, i think the onus is on you to have a reason why. i said 58 because you said ou wasn't in the top 75 in your original post. what you meant by top 75, i don't know, and certainly ou is not a premier research institution, nor do they aspire to be so. sure, 20's better than 75. whatever. ou doesn't pretend to be anything more than what it is -- a state school designed to train future clinicians. if that's not for you, then, yes, you'd be happier elsewhere.
docnms said:a couple of other questions. what if i were to retake my gen. and org. chem to boost my science GPA. i only received C's in these coarses. i also believe i recieved a "B" in a few other classes like biology and anatomy. which these classes would be very easy to me.
in grad. school i had some very tough issues outside of school that had a major affect on my GPA. would OUhsc be more interested in my undergrad, grad. or both? thanks
oudoc08 said:I'm not sure how this thread got hijacked into a "my school is better than yours" fiasco, but let me attempt to reason it to an end with the following statement.
A major factor in selecting a medical school is the opportunities it opens up to you. Some people want the opportunity to become an academic reasearcher at a top 20 Ivy league institution. In those cases, I would strongly advise them to pass not only OU, but also any other state school, and shoot for an elite, private school such as HMS, Johns Hopkins, etc.
Some people want to be family practice doctors in Poteau, Oklahoma. In those cases, I would advise that person to consider a top notch DO program such as OSU, which admittedly outranks OU and many other MD programs in primary care.
It is a little argued point that neither Harvard, nor OSU offers their students potenial for the others golden egg. (Sure, people (mainly premeds) will probably argue that a Harvard grad can do anything). But the question is, how many Harvard grads are going to come practice family medicine in rural oklahoma, and how many of them could get their nose down far enough to make sense of Bob Jones' dialect, and culturally understand where he's coming from.)
As well, there lies a HUGE gap between these two, and a fair stretch in the middle that is best provided for by middle tier MD schools.
In short, if you want to be the next Nobel prize in medicine winner, go to Yale.
If you want to do primary care, apply to DO schools as well.
If you don't know what you want to do, or are pretty sure you want to do one of the 98% of positions out there, OU or a similar school offers you a great opportunity.
One caveat: Grades, Board scores, LOR's, are going to decide your residency, so don't make the mistake of thinking that you'll sink that derm residency just because you managed to get in a top 20 school. It may well turn out to be the opposite. Think "little fish : big pond", and how that relates to class ranking.
Quazimodo said:...where there are limitless opportunities for involvement, and it's much easier to get into your residency of choice, and you have the one-on-one support from the faculty demonstrated by their presence on the interview day...
Amxcvbcv said:If it takes Ivy league and/or $50,000 in tuition and expenses per year to cultivate the doctor in you then I guess that's what it takes. I'm truly sorry if it does.
oudoc08 said:Ouch, that's some true tough love, I hope some people take it to heart.
lfesiam said:grow up, big head premeds
my advice: go out and have some fun, sex, party, drink, travel, and enjoy your senior year in college.
Amxcvbcv said:... If it takes Ivy league and/or $50,000 in tuition and expenses per year to cultivate the doctor in you then I guess that's what it takes.
Quazimodo said:Well, you get what you pay for.
Quazimodo said:Well, you get what you pay for.
eagle9208 said:That rough interview really got to you it seems! Why so much OU hate? Do you mind telling us which other two schools are lucky enough to have you attend? I assume they are ranked higher than OU but I'm just curious.
Quazimodo said:The interview process is a two way street. It's not just about the school deciding which students they want, but also for us to decide which is the right school.
I don't want to shake up your thread, I just shared some straight forward impressions, for which someone else asked to be given. I don't hate, I have an honest opinion. I don't happen to think that OU is the ****, and for that, I've been addressed with venom. I'd rather not post my other acceptances here to be chewed on. I'm still in the application cycle, and I haven't yet made up my mind.
I do wonder what happens to the med student at OU who happens to disagree with the consensus, or has a different opinion. Are they treated this same way?
To me, freedom of thought and expression is probably the most important aspect of education. Diversity of opinion is invaluable, especially in a field as demanding and rigorous as medicine. If you can't express your mind without fear of retribution, what must 4 years of that be?
oudoc08 said:You can blame it on whatever you want, but please don't come in here and tell me that because you support stem-cell research, abortion, or whatever, that somehow that those are alien views to OU students, and you were "picked" on. It sounds to me like you had a rather high opinion of yourself coming into the interview, figured on OU being a cake-walk shoe-in, and were unpreparedly taken by surprise. Oops.
exlawgrrl said:Just to add, I actually *gasp* mentioned that I supported stem cell research in my interview and was still admitted.
oudoc08 said:Amazing. It's a good thing for you that all three of your interviewers were too busy working on their three-part "Dueling Banjo's" harmony for the white coat ceremony, to notice.
oudoc08 said:... Our school is comprised of individuals who run the gamut, politically and otherwise. Many cultures, ethnicities and religions are represented, ...
oudoc08 said:So, unless you're a 3-legged Eskimo
Quazimodo said:If this is indeed true, I shouldn't be so down on OU.
Between the interviewers and the student tour guide describing the virtues of intelligent design, I thought I had it pegged. Perceptions are fascinating buggers.
Quazimodo said:I do wonder what happens to the med student at OU who happens to disagree with the consensus, or has a different opinion. Are they treated this same way?
To me, freedom of thought and expression is probably the most important aspect of education. Diversity of opinion is invaluable, especially in a field as demanding and rigorous as medicine. If you can't express your mind without fear of retribution, what must 4 years of that be?
GoBroncos! said:i dun think quazimodo is even 4 real.. whats that bit about intelligent design lol? anyways can we not let him take over this thread, whens the next admissions meeting? all this waiting stinks =/. I think ppl on the deferred list like me can still get rejected! so the whole process starts again red letter or white letter =o
Quazimodo said:Oh, I am for real.