Oklahoma - (Prospective) Class of 2010 part 01

[JohnnyOU]

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Is this something that is available for export into Outlook, or iCal (with appropriate tweaking) from Hippocrates? Or if we'd like to will we have to manually enter it?

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20051117063835839

This supposedly is how we can convert the .cvs files into iCal files. (or .csv whichever it is)

 

[WhoisJohnGalt]

Conversely, the group's cadaver behind us was like 250 and smelled at times like it hadn't been prepared correctly. Nasty, nasty, nasty.


But yes, thank God it's over.

You know, if you weren't a year ahead of me, I'd swear you were talking about our group... but again, thank God it's over!!! 😀

 

[glp]

You know, if you weren't a year ahead of me, I'd swear you were talking about our group... but again, thank God it's over!!! 😀

i know at some schools, they rotate cadavers every few weeks bc some are more difficult to learn from than others, any chance this happens at ou or is all luck of the draw for the whole time?

 

[Amxcvbcv]

i know at some schools, they rotate cadavers every few weeks bc some are more difficult to learn from than others, any chance this happens at ou or is all luck of the draw for the whole time?

Your cadaver is yours for the duration of gross. Well, yours and 7 other folks. Dissection groups are four people, every other MWF with 8 persons per cadaver.

You'll know his/her name, occupation, age, and possibly cause of death... because you get to meet their family on the Friday of Orientation. 🙂 Don't worry, it's really not as creepy as it sounds. Although I probably shouldn't talk since my donor's family didn't come to the luncheon or the remembrance ceremony.



Sorry, folks, I've been busy and driving a lot lately. 😛

If you're looking for textbooks to get you by until classes actually start, go here. If you buy using any of those links from Amazon, Half.com, or Barnes and Noble, you can help our class out since we get a tiny percentage of the purchase (and it doesn't cost you anything extra! 🙂). Antigunner posted a link to our class's website, but that's a direct link to our textbook recommendations. As for my personal perspective, I got by just fine in the fall with Netter's, Chung's, Langman's for embryology, and an occasional glance at Rohan's. An MS2 gave me their copy of Rohan's atlas, and it was really helpful for the first couple weeks of gross just getting used to seeing the structures since it is a photographic atlas instead of just figures. Other than that I just studied straight from the syllabi, lecture notes, powerpoints, and class attendance. The tricky thing with medical school and dispensing advice is that one size does not fit all. If you're a book reader, don't let us talk you out of buying/using textbooks if that's what got you through undergrad. On the other hand, if you've never used textbooks (and still spent all the money buying "required" books in undergrad - like me) don't feel like you need to start now. Just realize that the pace is much more intense than undergrad and no matter who you are, there will be a very steep curve when it comes to adjusting to that pace; don't get discouraged!

Let's see... what else.

They have comma-delimited .csv files (for importing to Outlook and other programs) as well as .dba files of the class schedules. You'll get your login info for Hippocrates during orientation.

Thanks for posting the snip-it. I just got too busy. 🙂

 

[WhoisJohnGalt]

Your cadaver is yours for the duration of gross. Well, yours and 7 other folks. Dissection groups are four people, every other MWF with 8 persons per cadaver.

You'll know his/her name, occupation, age, and possibly cause of death... because you get to meet their family on the Friday of Orientation. 🙂 Don't worry, it's really not as creepy as it sounds. Although I probably shouldn't talk since my donor's family didn't come to the luncheon or the remembrance ceremony.

I'll add a few things 🙂 First of all, even though you don't rotate cadavers, you'll find that it's very difficult for four people to actually all be working on the body at the same time. So more than likely, 2-3 people from a group will actually be cutting, while 1-2 are wandering around the room looking at other bodies. You will be tested on ALL bodies during the practical, and even though Chung and O'Don will lie to you and tell you that you'll only ever be tested on "normal" bodies, they're big liars. You can try to fight those questions, and you'll get them back about 1/2 the time (there is of course the excellent point that most bodies aren't "normal", but you should still be able to avoid cutting nerves and arteries in surgery). The point is, it's a very good idea to be familiar with several bodies, and you do have the opportunity to do that in lab. Your keycard will also get you access to the lab 24/7 except for the 24-48 hours prior to practicals. However, I don't recommend going to the lab by yourself late at night. It's not unsafe, just really creepy. So if you want to hang out with dead bodies at 3am, go with some buddies, but not the kind that are going to freak you out for kicks 🙂

Also, as someone whose family showed up to the luncheon, it is only a little creepy 🙂 The point of the luncheon is to remind you that your cadaver actually belonged to a person that you should treat with respect. I think it's pretty successful in that, but it was occasionally strange to find myself thinking about her family while I was in the middle of cutting. Different people have different views on the whole meeting-the-family thing (which is very uncommon in medical schools), but I don't know of anyone that thought it was as bad as they expected it to be.

 

[WhoisJohnGalt]

The point of the luncheon is to remind you that your cadaver actually belonged to a person that you should treat with respect.

While we're on this subject, take a lesson from our class. The faculty takes the respect for the dead issue very seriously. Even though it may seem like a good idea to use the cadaver as a dating tool and leave a love note in a cadaver's heart, the next thing you know you'll be in the dean's office talking about professionalism. The lab is not generally a very serious place, but try to keep your kidding somewhat respectful-- the dean's office doesn't have much of a sense of humor about that in particular.

Right now they're on this "professionalism" kick where we had to fill out about a dozen different professionalism reviews of our classmates. Speaking of which, are we ever actually going to hear back about that? I'm sure I've been reviewed by a ton of people. Is it just going to sit in my file until residency interviews like a timebomb, or are they going to warn me? 🙂

 

[Jwax]

wow, someone is a little bitter. nothing funnier than a pissed off conservative who accidently supported a liberal group. i heard a funny thing on the news the other day. they are no longer doing interrogations at gitmo, only "custodial interviews."

 

[Jwax]

I've got three more days of work after today. I cleaned out my desk yesterday and am in the process of passing everything on to my coworkers, and it's so surreal. However, I did just watch the Buffy musical episode again from season six ("Once More, With Feeling"), and it put me in the right frame of mind. One of the songs is how they'll "walk through the fire," like they always do, which is sort of like what we're going to do. I'm thoroughly convinced that there's a Buffy episode for every stage in life. 🙂

If I make it off the waitlist this year, you will definitely be my best friend. We'll watch Buffy together after test blocks & discuss whether Angel or Spike is the better man (or vampire, rather). I will now be singing the musical all day at work 🙂. Oh, and I agree, there is a Buffy episode for every life issue. Death, love, choices, changes... etc. Okay, I'm done being an ultra dork now! 😀

 

[want2beadoc]

Firefly was a better Whedon series 😉

 

[Amxcvbcv]

Despite being in direct contact with the folks in charge of this decision, I just now stumbled across this website while writing/revising my section of The Unofficial Guide to the First Year of Medical School:

http://macori.com/States/OK/UOHealthScienceCenter.asp

On there you'll find a link to the 2006/2007 insurance plan info including prices.

Enjoy...

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Firefly was a better Whedon series 😉

Jwax and I are gonna have to beat you for such blasphemy. 🙂 Serenity was good, but I never really clicked with Firefly. Maybe if it had been on longer.

Thanks for the info, amxc! The good news is that the premiums look a little lower than they were last year.

 

[JohnnyOU]

Anyone know if med students get any sort of lockers?

Or if I bring 50 pounds of stuff with me I have to lug it all day.
What about leaving books in our mod?

 

[Antigunner]

Anyone know if med students get any sort of lockers?

Or if I bring 50 pounds of stuff with me I have to lug it all day.
What about leaving books in our mod?

You will have 3 or 4 drawers and a cabinet at your desk in the mod, all of which can be locked if you desire. A lot of people just leave most of their stuff in the mod and switch books during breaks. There are also lockers down in the lab, but those are pretty much just to keep your smelly lab stuff in.

 

[JohnnyOU]

You will have 3 or 4 drawers and a cabinet at your desk in the mod, all of which can be locked if you desire. A lot of people just leave most of their stuff in the mod and switch books during breaks. There are also lockers down in the lab, but those are pretty much just to keep your smelly lab stuff in.

Great.
Thanks 👍

 

[glp]

so i just mailed in my mpn for my student loans to t.h.e. this is all i have to do to get my money right? is there anything else im missing? for matriculation we also need
-proof of bls
-vaccintation form

is there anything else i am missing? i am about to take off and wont be back until aug 1 and want to make sure i have everything in order.

 

[Non-TradTulsa]

so i just mailed in my mpn for my student loans to t.h.e. this is all i have to do to get my money right? is there anything else im missing? for matriculation we also need
-proof of bls
-vaccintation form

is there anything else i am missing? i am about to take off and wont be back until aug 1 and want to make sure i have everything in order.

Do we have to have vaccinations finished by the first day of class or by the first day of orientation? What happens to a slacker? I got started on my vaccinations yesterday - got my first Hep B. They told me to come back in two weeks for a DPT. I'm immune to rubella and rubeola by titer and I'll titer positive for chickenpox - but, will my childhood shots titer me positive for mumps antibodies? I'll have to have 2 DPT's because I can't locate my childhood records, and I'm concerned that I won't be able to fit all of these in. Of course, my last Hep B will still be pending when class starts.

 

[want2beadoc]

I'm curious as well. I couldn't locate my second MMR record, so the RN just gave me another one. The vaccine sheet says that the rubeola shots should be 4 weeks apart... will 20 years apart work 🙄 ? Should I get a titer just in case? I guess I should call and ask. 🙂

 

[Amxcvbcv]

The big motivator for getting vaccination stuff in is that financial aid won't disburse your money until you're all squared away in that department. 😉

As for specific questions about what and when, I'll defer to someone else.

Regarding lockers, there are also some available in the second floor bathrooms, at the end of the hall by the mods. You can check out one of those from the wonderful ladies in Room 100.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

I'm not getting my vaccine stuff done until I show up in Oklahoma in late July because the FMC seems to have the cheapest rates around. I'm thinking all I need is a TB test, a varicella titer and possibly a new tetatus shot, unless my mom can locate my stuff from when I was a baby. Luckily, I have a copy of all my MMR stuff from UT's health clinic and my Hep B stuff from one of my volunteering gigs.

So tomorrow is my last day of work. It's so weird.

 

[oudoc08]

We have officially passed Univ. of Maryland in # of posts. OU is now #1 in viewings and posts!

 

[oudoc08]

Anybody on here have a myspace page? If so, come to mine and add me as a friend. My user name is the same as on here.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

We have officially passed Univ. of Maryland in # of posts. OU is now #1 in viewings and posts!

More proof that we're the coolest.

 

[oudoc08]

Seriously, you see a bunch of the school that have 50-100 posts and you wonder what's up.

 

[glp]

Seriously, you see a bunch of the school that have 50-100 posts and you wonder what's up.

i figure a lot of these schools probably have their own board set up by the school. it would be nice if ou did that, the blog is better than nothing though. i thought about putting together a board for us incoming first years, but alas inertia is powerful and i decided i was too lazy. maybe we can do it next year for the class of 2011.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

This thread will die a slow death after August 12-13ish... When you get access to Hippocrates and the discussion boards we use regularly.

Just don't forget to pay it forward to the Class of 2011. 😉

 

[WhoisJohnGalt]

This thread will die a slow death after August 12-13ish... When you get access to Hippocrates and the discussion boards we use regularly.

Just don't forget to pay it forward to the Class of 2011. 😉

I definitely agree... even though you won't need it to talk to each other anymore, don't forget next year's applicants!!! They'll be just as nervous and excited as you have been the past year, and they'll want to know all about your first year.

Just imagine how lost you all would have been if we'd ignored you for the discussion boards... 😉

 

[Non-TradTulsa]

Happy last day at work, exlaw... welcome to the world of big-time debt and abject poverty. When are you moving?

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Happy last day at work, exlaw... welcome to the world of big-time debt and abject poverty. When are you moving?

Yeah, it's tough moving from making money to borrowing money. 🙂 We are leaving here approximately 7/21, so we should be in OKC around the 25th. Argh, I'm not excited about the actual moving process.

 

[Antigunner]

Found out the other day that I'm going to be one of the TA's for anatomy this year, so I'll be seeing a whole lot of some of you new folks. Just don't expect me to remember much of anything... 🙄

p.s. almost slipped to the second page... where is everybody?

 

[oudoc08]

Congratulations! You must've done really well your first year. You incoming MS1's pay attention to the TA's in lab, they'll help you out alot. The faculty select the best and brightest in order for you guys to have another valuable resource in a subject that can often seem quite detailed and trying. Congrats again Antigunner!

 

[Non-TradTulsa]

Congrats again Antigunner!

Too cool! It will be terrific to have a TA whom we already know is friendly to the Class of 2010. Looking forward to meeting you in the non-virtual universe, Antigunner.

 

[want2beadoc]

Maybe he's only friendly to the virtual Class of 2010. 😉 Congrats on being the TA, you must really know your stuff.

 

[WhoisJohnGalt]

Found out the other day that I'm going to be one of the TA's for anatomy this year, so I'll be seeing a whole lot of some of you new folks. Just don't expect me to remember much of anything... 🙄

p.s. almost slipped to the second page... where is everybody?

They're letting YOU influence young minds??? 😉 Congrats 😀

 

[want2beadoc]

New question to bide the time 🙂

360º Evaluation
Attendance
Audience Response
Direct Observation
In-House Exams
Readiness Assessment Tests
Lab Exams
Multiple Choice
NBME Exams
OSCE
Oral Exams
Small Group Partic
Write-ups
PBL
Professionalism
Simulations
Standardized Patient
Video-taping

This is what is listed in the assessment of students page on the OU medicine website. Which ones are generally used in the first and second years? Which ones have the most impact on grades? How many times will subjective grading come into play in the first two years/last two years?

 

[WhoisJohnGalt]

360º Evaluation - wtf does this even mean?
Attendance - There are some things that you will be required to sign in for, but they're never a surprise. You are only graded on your attendance to those required sessions (Principles of Clinical Medicine, Integrated Medical Problem Solving, Problem Based Learning sessions, and a few others)
Audience Response - This is used every day in Gross Anatomy, but rarely anywhere else. Never fear; the answers are almost always in the BRS book, which you will bring to every class.
Direct Observation - I assume this refers to 3rd/4th year.
In-House Exams - ? Again, not sure what this is referring to.
Readiness Assessment Tests - Don't know what this is.
Lab Exams - You will have practical exams in anatomy, histology, and neurology. They're USUALLY easier than the written.
Multiple Choice - This will be the BULK of your assessment 1st and 2nd year. They're often a bitch, so beware.
NBME Exams - As of now, these don't actually affect your grades, but of course you must pass step I in order to move from 2nd to 3rd year.
OSCE - what's this?
Oral Exams - 3rd and 4th year
Small Group Partic - I talked about this under attendance.
Write-ups - You only have to write these for PCM, and they're easy.
PBL - under attendance
Professionalism - We had to do a bunch of these evaluations, but don't know what happened to them.
Simulations - 3rd and 4th year.
Standardized Patient - We use this in PCM in both 1st and 2nd years. They're a VERY helpful tool at learning how to interview (and I imagine how to do the physical exam, even though I'm not there yet).
Video-taping - This is used to assess your interviewing skills. It will be part of your "final" in PCM.

First and second year have very little subjective grading. It is PRIMARILY multiple choice exams. I can't really speak to 3rd/4th, but I've heard that they're MOSTLY subjective.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

360º Evaluation
Attendance
Audience Response
Direct Observation
In-House Exams
Readiness Assessment Tests
Lab Exams
Multiple Choice
NBME Exams
OSCE
Oral Exams
Small Group Partic
Write-ups
PBL
Professionalism
Simulations
Standardized Patient
Video-taping

Let's see...

I don't remember a 360 eval, so that might be later.
Attendance - Gross Anatomy, Evidence Based Medicine and a couple of HB classes (one professor gives a bonus point or two for attendance. Anatomy lab is mandatory attendance.)
Audience Response - Gross Anatomy and IMPS, mostly. It's used sporadically in a few other classes.
Direct Observation - I'm pretty sure this isn't until 3-4 years.
In-House Exams - ditto.
Readiness Assessment Tests - ditto.
Lab Exams - Gross Anatomy, Histology, and Neuroscience.
Multiple Choice - Everything. 🙂 Imagine 40 page, 100+ question multiple choice exams.
NBME - Step 1 after second year, and possibly this comprehensive exam the administration is talking about after first year. I "passed" it with no studying, and the questions were selected from a pool of questions by all the course directors. It's not clear at this point whether it will be a pass/fail sort of thing for you guys or if it will actually determine your letter grades in ALL courses.
OSCE - I'm not even sure what that stands for.
Oral Exams - Nothing for first year that I can recall.
Small Group Participation - Gross Anatomy Lab, Problem-based learning sessions in several courses, IMPS, umm... I think there's more.
Write ups - Principles of Clinical Medicine, and all of the PBL sessions.
PBL - Oh... this is on here separately. 😉 This plays a small role in several courses, usually around 5% of the grades in classes like Gross Anatomy, Physiology, and Neuroscience.
Professionalism - I'm not quite sure how this affects our grades. We were supposed to fill out professionalism surveys on several classmates/modmates/dissection groupies throughout the year.
Simulations - I think this is a 3-4 year thing as well.
Standardized Patient - You do this more 2-4 year, but you will interview simulated patients in PCM throughout your first year, but it's not graded except for...
Video Taping - Toward the end of first-year you get video-taped doing an interview with a simulated patient which will be graded.


For first year, the bulk of your grades will come from multiple choice and lab exams, except for the odd classes like PCM, Evidence Based Medicine, and IMPS. In the Unofficial Guide that you'll all get next month (next month! How exciting is that?! 🙂) I think there's a breakdown of how much each class and subsequently each year impacts your total GPA. For example, Gross Anatomy which is debatably the toughest (at least the class most people consider symbolic of medical school) has a huge number of class hours - 130ish out of what will be over 800 for the year. So it is just over 10% of your weighted GPA for first year, but when it's all said and done, I think it only amounts to about 2% of your ultimate grade.

I hope my post is coherent.

 

[Antigunner]

OSCE is the clinical portion of boards, nothing to worry about yet

 

[Amxcvbcv]

Woah...

Your new avatar pic is kind of scary. 😛

 

[Antigunner]

Yeah, I got bored so I was playing around with Photoshop... it kind of scares me too, so I think I'll probably change it again pretty soon... 😱

 

[WhoisJohnGalt]

Happy Fourth everybody!!! Enjoy your last month of freedom 😉

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Happy Fourth everybody!!! Enjoy your last month of freedom 😉

One month and four days if you don't count today. 🙂 I'm sitting here watching "Wheel of Fortune" when I should be cleaning, maybe packing or at least working out. Hopefully, I can get over this huge feeling of laziness.

 

[Smitty3L]

One month! I'm officially freaking out [reaches for brown paper bag]

I just got my laptop back, had to have the power supply fixed. I'm taking an online literature class right now and it totally screwed me not having internet access for a week and a half. Any homeschoolers have this happen to them during a semester. Were you hopelessly lost?

 

[WhoisJohnGalt]

One month! I'm officially freaking out [reaches for brown paper bag]

I just got my laptop back, had to have the power supply fixed. I'm taking an online literature class right now and it totally screwed me not having internet access for a week and a half. Any homeschoolers have this happen to them during a semester. Were you hopelessly lost?

I do know that alot of "homeschoolers" homeschool at school, if that makes any sense 🙂 They just study in the mod instead of going to class, in which case they of course have access to the mod computers. In your case, I'm assuming you're homeschooling because of the baby, who I imagine wouldn't have too much fun in the mod all day 🙂 If I were you, I'd just buy a backup desktop. You can pick one up with the school discount for $500 or so, and bear in mind that you're allotted $2500 of loan money for computers. That way you wouldn't be totally screwed. I've had to send in my laptop for repairs a few times, but I always had my desktop as a backup.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

Okay... I've been wondering this for a long time:

Who is John Galt, and why is that your nickname here?

I've been wondering that for over a year now, but got... distracted... ooo! A pomegranate!

 

[Smitty3L]

That's a great idea. I think I will buy a backup desktop. I should have kept my old one, it was put together with spare parts and ran for 5 years and never once gave me any trouble.

 

[want2beadoc]

Read Atlas Shrugged. At least I think that is where the reference is from.

Happy 4th.

 

[Antigunner]

I just assumed it was the answer to a strange Jeopardy question...

 

[WhoisJohnGalt]

LOL want2beadoc is right, it is most definitely an Atlas Shrugged reference. John Galt is the man who stopped the motor of the world by refusing to work selflessly for the looters 😉 You should read the book while you've got time, it was life-changing for me. And I'm not exaggerating.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

I kid you not. I checked out Atlas Shrugged the summer after graduating from OSSM.

Just never got around to reading it. 😉

Maybe it'll be one of those books I read after med school.

 

[WhoisJohnGalt]

I kid you not. I checked out Atlas Shrugged the summer after graduating from OSSM.

Just never got around to reading it. 😉

Maybe it'll be one of those books I read after med school.

Ah, with all the copious free time you'll have as an intern... 😉