OMFS but no dentistry

[V3NOM]

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My goal is to become an OMFS but I cannot simply go trough dental school with the risk of ending up as a dentist (it's just not my type, not against it).


Any help?

 

[gn4]

go to medschool. Do ENT or Plastics

 

[twh019]

You have to become a dentist before you can ever be an oral surgeon. There is no guarantee you will get accepted into the residency as it is extremely competitive.

If you honestly can't see yourself as a dentist then I wouldn't go to dental school. Period.

 

[Koalafied]

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=970626);

 

[AlbinoPolarBear]

go to medschool. Do ENT or Plastics

Those are even more competitive to get into than OMFS.

 

[V3NOM]

You have to become a dentist before you can ever be an oral surgeon.

My goal is to become an OMFS but I cannot simply go trough dental school with the risk of ending up as a dentist

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[calid]

My goal is to become an OMFS but I cannot simply go trough dental school with the risk of ending up as a dentist (it's just not my type, not against it).


Any help?

~55% of dentists match for omfs

~25% of omfs's are md's

 

[Ferneezy]

i might be missing something

 

[shootingstar7]

~55% of dentists match for omfs

~25% of omfs's are md's

Seriously? No. 55% do not match for OMFS. And those 25% probably got their MD during their oral surgery residency, if that stat is even valid.

 

[AlbinoPolarBear]

Seriously? No. 55% do not match for OMFS. And those 25% probably got their MD during their oral surgery residency, if that stat is even valid.

The match rate is around 55% for those who apply to OMFS. The application is really expensive, so you would only apply if you know you have a chance of matching. Those who are outside the top 20% of the class will have a tougher time matching, and usually choose not to apply at all. Then we have those in the top 20% that do not want to pursue OMFS.

https://natmatch.com/dentres/stats/2013sumstats.html

394 people applied, 213 matched.

There is a shift to more MD-granting programs (6 years) in recent years, and I've read somewhere that it's a 50/50 breakdown of 4 year and 6 year programs.

 

[AlbinoPolarBear]

This should help provide a broad overview of OMFS.

 

[V3NOM]

The match rate is around 55% for those who apply to OMFS. The application is really expensive, so you would only apply if you know you have a chance of matching. Those who are outside the top 20% of the class will have a tougher time matching, and usually choose not to apply at all. Then we have those in the top 20% that do not want to pursue OMFS.

https://natmatch.com/dentres/stats/2013sumstats.html

394 people applied, 213 matched.

There is a shift to more MD-granting programs (6 years) in recent years, and I've read somewhere that it's a 50/50 breakdown of 4 year and 6 year programs.

Is not that bad. I got a lot to think in the remaining 3 years. Really thanks.

 

[DancingBull]

What is your motivation to become an OMS (a dentist first, physician second)?

 

[V3NOM]

What is your motivation to become an OMS (a dentist first, physician second)?

I was a bike rider since kid. I got in a lot of accidents and broke my teeth and jaw. Since that moment I started to like this dental and jaw surgeries.

My motivation is obviously my past experiences in life, the long working hours in residency (it's kinda of weird), the ability to administer some anesthesia and since this is a long journey with a lot of debt, the compensation is also appealing.

I think my only choice is to work really hard in dental school.

 

[theartofzahn]

I know of one guy who went through medical school and then dental school to go to OMFS. In my advice practicing as an OMFS outside of academics will mean lots of dentistry.

 

[Toronto77]

The match rate is around 55% for those who apply to OMFS. The application is really expensive, so you would only apply if you know you have a chance of matching. Those who are outside the top 20% of the class will have a tougher time matching, and usually choose not to apply at all. Then we have those in the top 20% that do not want to pursue OMFS.

https://natmatch.com/dentres/stats/2013sumstats.html

394 people applied, 213 matched.

There is a shift to more MD-granting programs (6 years) in recent years, and I've read somewhere that it's a 50/50 breakdown of 4 year and 6 year programs.

Your interpretation of the data is incorrect. Of all the people who applied 394 were invited for an interview meaning there were able to put in for the match.

 

[AlbinoPolarBear]

Your interpretation of the data is incorrect. Of all the people who applied 394 were invited for an interview meaning there were able to put in for the match.

Thanks for clearing that up. I wonder how many applied then?

 

[NMC2010]

lol Ferneezy

 

[La Presse]

I'm still struggling with this decision myself. I know some OMFS programs that allow you to also get your medical degree, but simply looking at the raw data alone is very disappointing.

 

[NDPitch]

My goal is to become an OMFS but I cannot simply go trough dental school with the risk of ending up as a dentist (it's just not my type, not against it).


Any help?

Do not go to dental school. Oral surgeons are dentists.

 

[Sublimazing]

Your interpretation of the data is incorrect. Of all the people who applied 394 were invited for an interview meaning there were able to put in for the match.

You don't need to get an interview to apply for match or Rank programs...where specifically are you seeing that the 394 were interviewers? I may have missed it

Do not go to dental school. Oral surgeons are dentists.

They really aren't. OMFS does months of anesthesia, gen surg, neuro surg, plastics, medicine...you really cannot compare an omfs to a general dentist

OP: don't do dental school hinged on omfs...you're far better off doing med school if the omfs day to day appeals to you

 

[NDPitch]

They really aren't. OMFS does months of anesthesia, gen surg, neuro surg, plastics, medicine...you really cannot compare an omfs to a general dentist

I wasn't comparing an OMFS to a general dentist. Of course they have different scopes of practice. I said an oral surgeon is a dentist, just like all other specialists in dentistry are. An endodontist is a specialized dentist. So is an orthodontist, periodontist, prosthodontist, and an oral surgeon.

The point I'm making is that you simply cannot be an oral surgeon without having a dental degree. OMFS is a specialty of dentistry, and because the OP says he/she doesn't want to "end up" as a dentist, it is highly unwise to go to dental school.

 

[Sublimazing]

Well I think the OP hopefully understands that...I think he doesn't want to be a dentist in the sense that he doesn't want to do fillings, dentures, crowns, and the other mainstay dental procedures

 

[V3NOM]

Well I think the OP hopefully understands that...I think he doesn't want to be a dentist in the sense that he doesn't want to do fillings, dentures, crowns, and the other mainstay dental procedures

Thank you for being the only one pointing out this.

 

[Toronto77]

You don't need to get an interview to apply for match or Rank programs...where specifically are you seeing that the 394 were interviewers? I may have missed it

I am not going to argue semantics with you.

Sure you can put into match at an OMS program but if you haven't even been offered an interview your surely will not be put on their rank list.

 

[Sublimazing]

I am not going to argue semantics with you.

Sure you can put into match at an OMS program but if you haven't even been offered an interview your surely will not be put on their rank list.

Their number is the amount of applicants who registered for match...which should be everyone who applied (394)...so I'm not sure what number you're talking about

You sign up for pass...then you sign up for match...i don't see any number indicating #applicants ranked or anything...just not following where you saw what you're saying

 

[La Presse]

Let me just make this easy for you. If you do not attend dental school, there is no way in hell you are becoming an omfs. OMFS is a dental surgical specialty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specialty_(dentistry)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_and_maxillofacial_surgery

However, if you decide to leave the states, you can become a physician in this specialty depending n where you reactive.

 

[Toronto77]

Their number is the amount of applicants who registered for match...which should be everyone who applied (394)...so I'm not sure what number you're talking about

You sign up for pass...then you sign up for match...i don't see any number indicating #applicants ranked or anything...just not following where you saw what you're saying

Maybe this will help:

Number of Applicants Registered for the Match 3447
Number of Applicants Who Withdrew or Did Not Return A Rank Order List 835
Number of Applicants Participating in the Match 2612

You register for Match, not for a specific program (Anes, OMS, GPR, etc.) therefore the numbers listed for each specific program are those who interviewed, submitted rank list...

 

[Koalafied]

Let me just make this easy for you. If you do not attend dental school, there is no way in hell you are becoming an omfs. OMFS is a dental surgical specialty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specialty_(dentistry)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_and_maxillofacial_surgery

However, if you decide to leave the states, you can become a physician in this specialty depending n where you reactive.

Agreed.

My goal is to become an OMFS but I cannot simply go trough dental school with the risk of ending up as a dentist (it's just not my type, not against it).


Any help?

The stakes are high, the odds are disappointing indeed.

 

[V3NOM]

Let me just make this easy for you. If you do not attend dental school, there is no way in hell you are becoming an omfs. OMFS is a dental surgical specialty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specialty_(dentistry)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_and_maxillofacial_surgery

However, if you decide to leave the states, you can become a physician in this specialty depending n where you reactive.

My goal is to become an OMFS but I cannot simply go trough dental school with the risk of ending up as a dentist (it's just not my type, not against it).

I think I made already pretty obvious what I meant.

 

[La Presse]

I think I made already pretty obvious what I meant.

Emphasis doesn't hurt.

 

[Sublimazing]

Maybe this will help:

Number of Applicants Registered for the Match 3447
Number of Applicants Who Withdrew or Did Not Return A Rank Order List 835
Number of Applicants Participating in the Match 2612

You register for Match, not for a specific program (Anes, OMS, GPR, etc.) therefore the numbers listed for each specific program are those who interviewed, submitted rank list...

Ah okay....i'll buy it.