OMFS final year position

[BYU4you]

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Please send me a secure message if anyone knows of any final year positions PGY4/6 for OMFS residency for myself.
This comes, needless to say, unexpectedly and would prefer privacy regarding specifics surrounding this inquiry except to those to which specifics are needed, and will be freely given.

I sincerely hope my time and presence on this forum and any positive value Ive contributed to the OMFS community over the years will help me and my family find some much needed peace of mind.

Thank you

 

[omfsing]

Buffalo may have one

 

[D1Bound]

Update us on your progress. I wish you the best in your search. If you exhaust every possible option, maybe approaching Air Force, Navy, and Army OMS leaders to finish the certificate in exchange for service would be viable.

 

[BYU4you]

Update:
PGY5 (3) Not-Renewed for PGY6 (4) year.

 

[D1Bound]

Update:
PGY5 (3) Not-Renewed for PGY6 (4) year.

What does that mean?

 

[BYU4you]

Still seeking PGY-6(4) or PGY5(3) positions now or July 2026 start.

Also seeking non-categorical positions with immediate availability. Full commitment to all non-cat/intern level responsibilities and duties as required.

 

[kamsartipi]

hope you find luck in your journey doc <3

 

[malignant_attending]

As you all know this is an extremely small field where everyone knows pretty much everyone else (or know someone who does).

I’ve never heard of a case where a resident was terminated, especially during their final year, where it wasn’t warranted (all specialties, not just omfs). Your attendings must have had serious concerns over you. Programs do not want to terminate residents if at all possible. They must have lost all hope in you becoming a competent or ethical provider.

That being said your best bet is to stay in your current program. If you haven’t already done so, find an attorney who can get you reinstated. They can try to prove wrongful termination. Believe it or not, you have a good chance of getting yourself back into your program if you act quickly enough. I know of a resident who was in a dual degree program and was fired in her chief year. She got herself back in by filing a lawsuit. Needless to say, the program had legit concerns over her conduct. And she should have stayed fired.

What exactly did you do ?

 

[BYU4you]

Thank you for the concern and advice on this situation. I will continue to take the best steps necessary, as I have already done, to doing what’s best for my family. As well as for myself in becoming a board certified Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeon. I continue to seek a position at the PGY5/6 level or a non-categorical spot and encourage any interested program the opportunity to speak with me personally and use their judgment in determining whether or not I am a fit for their program. We do not have the same residency swap type system as with other specialties and as you noted this is a small specialty.

 

[upperlower]

Don't let the re-incarnated Bob Nadeau gaslight you, there are some dog**** people in this specialty.

 

[malignant_attending]

Don't let the re-incarnated Bob Nadeau gaslight you, there are some dog**** people in this specialty.

Where is all this hate coming from ?

I am trying to provide some help to the OP who was terminated.
Right or wrong, I’m still trying to provide help.

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OP my advice still remains the same. Your best bet is to get back into the same program that fired and kicked you out.

There are law firms that specialize in this. Good luck.

 

[BYU4you]

My contract was not renewed. I am seeking to continue my path to board certification. That’s all my focus and intention for this thread is on.

Thank you

 

[malignant_attending]

My contract was not renewed. I am seeking to continue my path to board certification. That’s all my focus and intention for this thread is on.

Thank you

Not renewed is the same as being terminated.
For those who don’t know, omfs residents get their contract renewed every year in order to graduate.

If your program didn’t renew your contract, that means they kicked you out. They don’t want you to finish the program.

In order for you to become board certified you need to first graduate from your program. That means you need to get back into the same program. That is the easiest and most direct way. As mentioned previously you have a good chance and there are firms working in this exact area. There is no shame.

 

[Big Time Hoosier]

OP, I agree that your best chance is getting back in with your program’s good graces. Is there any way to appeal their decision? You mention this came somewhat as a surprise to you. Did your program not make any effort to help you correct/remediate things before you got to this point? If they didn’t, maybe that will give you some leverage for them to reverse their decision. I’d definitely find a good attorney.

To not renew a resident in any field, a program would have to have serious concerns regarding someone’s clinical skills and/or ethics. It’s gonna be a battle to convince another program to give you a chance.

Best of luck, OP.

Big Hoss

 

[malignant_attending]

OP, I agree that your best chance is getting back in with your program’s good graces. Is there any way to appeal their decision? You mention this came somewhat as a surprise to you. Did your program not make any effort to help you correct/remediate things before you got to this point? If they didn’t, maybe that will give you some leverage for them to reverse their decision. I’d definitely find a good attorney.

To not renew a resident in any field, a program would have to have serious concerns regarding someone’s clinical skills and/or ethics. It’s gonna be a battle to convince another program to give you a chance.

Best of luck, OP.

Big Hoss

Getting kicked out of a program is a serious matter as you said.
Likely the PD and chair would have, at the very least, outlined their concerns to the problematic resident 6 months prior during their review. All residents have reviews with their PD and chair. The resident probably had to sign a paper during their review that acknowledges the meeting and issues. They would have told the resident if he doesn’t address these issues, they will be let him go.
It’s hardly a surprise.

Kicking out a resident is a serious matter. The chair likely would have called a meeting that involved the PD, full time attendings, private attendings and even the chief residents. We will never know what the issues were involving the OP. Probably, however, not a single attending or co resident vouched for the OP. All it takes is one or two attendings to reverse the decision. More than likely the OP was universally disliked or they had serious concerns over his ability to be a competent provider.

I’m not in any way trying to bring someone down. As mentioned in multiple posts previously I actually tried to help by giving a legit solution.

The OP has mentioned many times that he is trying to become board certified and is trying to do what’s best for his family. He should have thought about that years ago before he got into this situation.

 

[upperlower]

Residents are fired and picked up by new programs every year and in every specialty. Maybe his program is normal and maybe yours is too but there's still plenty of dog**** in this specialty. Attending satisfaction isn't what it used to be. There's a reason why this board is filled with people looking for transfers. On what planet would an attending call another attending and admit they fired a resident that didn't deserve it. Its way easier just to lie and gaslight the **** out of them. Happening more often BTW according to the colleagues you evidently aren't conversing with. OP needs to do exactly what he's doing and find a new home with the support of his (hopefully) normal program.

 

[malignant_attending]

Residents are fired and picked up by new programs every year and in every specialty. Maybe his program is normal and maybe yours is too

I’m not affiliated with any program. I’m not an attending, never was and never will be lol. My username is meant to be a joke.

As far as his program, i heard it was Loma Linda which is a highly reputable program. The attendings there are phenomenal. They are not malignant.

On what planet would an attending call another attending and admit they fired a resident that didn't deserve it. Its way easier just to lie and gaslight the **** out of them.

I don’t think programs will fire a resident if they didn’t deserve it. Ultimately it’s not easy to fire a resident. There has to be good reason for it. Problematic residents can believe what they want to believe, whatever makes them feel better, instead of addressing their true issues.

but there's still plenty of dog**** in this specialty.

you sure fit this description given your attitude
I’ll be looking for your transfer thread when you get threatened for termination. LOL. Relax I’m just joking.