Online MD degree!?

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Iron Man said:
Just thought I'd share this with the board: http://bluemarbleuniversity.wordpre...e-program-unveiled-by-blue-marble-university/

Yeah. I know. :laugh:
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"We are not intending to train any physicians, but rather our MD degree is in the nature of an Executive MD degree useful in a surprising variety of non-clinical pursuits including ObamaCare Administration, medical research, pharmaceutical and medical device development, and hospital management, to name a few."

Everyone knows that the best kind of Doctor of Medicine degrees are the ones that don't allow you to practice medicine as a doctor. :laugh:
 
Iron Man said:
Just thought I'd share this with the board: http://bluemarbleuniversity.wordpre...e-program-unveiled-by-blue-marble-university/

If the link gets taken down or if it's not allowed, you can google "Blue Marble University" and "online MD degree".

Discuss :laugh:
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Scary. They set it up in the Dominican Republic to protect the company from US prosecution (smarter than Stewart a few years back) but that really doesn't mean that any graduate who holds themselves out in the US as a physician (or lawyer) isnt going to be in hot water. It's notable that no physicians are listed as faculty and that the curriculum for the MD program is at most a third of what you might cover in your first year of med school. I'm sorry but anyone holding themselves out as a "doctor" after going through this program is committing fraud, and probably will go to jail. You might as well find a fake school to sell you a fake degree without the coursework because frankly they are legally equivalent.
 
Personally, I'm more interested in the BA/PhD dual degree for HS grads. Get your BA and PhD without the 5+ years of research? I'm in 😛 hahah
 
Agent B said:
I am more worried about the graduates from such schools getting licensed to practice... Those applicants are equivalent to legalized serial killers.
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Not a chance.
 
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Agent B said:
I am more worried about the graduates from such schools getting licensed to practice... Those applicants are equivalent to legalized serial killers.
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They won't ever get licensed in this country, but they might still try to land less scrutinized jobs which are supposed to be held by medical grads. They will be able to say with a straight face (and even pass a lie detector test) that they " received an MD from BMU". Then they will put on. White coat that says Joe Smith, "M.D." and no patient will ever know the guy treating them essentially ordered his degree off the net.
 
Yeah, it's pretty nutty.

In medical school, having lectures recorded and being able to view them remotely (and not attend lecture) is understandable. The rest of the "remote aspect" at this point of time, is unreasonable.

I could not imagine the exams being carried out in a credible way. There is no way to ensure exam security, no matter how credible the proctor (or testing center) is, in this circumstance, with an MD program. Even with the SAT, with the ETS, there is a lot of cheating and unfairness. If there is a will, there is a way to beat the system.
 
mcloaf said:
Not a chance.
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Law2Doc said:
They won't ever get licensed in this country, but they might still try to land less scrutinized jobs which are supposed to be held by medical grads. They will be able to say with a straight face (and even pass a lie detector test) that they " received an MD from BMU". Then they will put on. White coat that says Joe Smith, "M.D." and no patient will ever know the guy treating them essentially ordered his degree off the net.
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That's reassuring, but this thread can be generalized to the Offshore IMG Problem, where medical school rejects go to crappy schools overseas and try to get licensed in the US. The fact that an online MD school only shows that the problem is exploited. The good news though is that the 2015 residency crunch and the creation if new US schools kicks the IMG/FMGs out, so I guess that solves the problem.
 
moco89 said:
Yeah, it's pretty nutty.

In medical school, having lectures recorded and being able to view them remotely (and not attend lecture) is understandable. The rest of the "remote aspect" at this point of time, is unreasonable.

I could not imagine the exams being carried out in a credible way. There is no way to ensure exam security, no matter how credible the proctor (or testing center) is, in this circumstance, with an MD program. Even with the SAT, with the ETS, there is a lot of cheating and unfairness. If there is a will, there is a way to beat the system.
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Eh, strictly enforcing exam security for preclinical exams doesn't really matter as far as I'm concerned. Yeah I guess if your school assigns AOA on preclinical grades you'd want the system to work, but generally it won't matter if you cheat your way through the first two years since you'll end up failing Step 1 anyway.
 
The fact the website for the program is hosted on Wordpress should tell everything you need to know about its legitimacy. That, and their referring to the ACA as ObamaCare.

Also, there is zero chance of a hospital hiring someone for an administrative position with an online MD "degree".
 
mcloaf said:
Eh, strictly enforcing exam security for preclinical exams doesn't really matter as far as I'm concerned. Yeah I guess if your school assigns AOA on preclinical grades you'd want the system to work, but generally it won't matter if you cheat your way through the first two years since you'll end up failing Step 1 anyway.
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I wouldn't know, but you are probably right 😛. I will take your word for it.
 
Agent B said:
That's reassuring, but this thread can be generalized to the Offshore IMG Problem, where medical school rejects go to crappy schools overseas and try to get licensed in the US. The fact that an online MD school only shows that the problem is exploited. The good news though is that the 2015 residency crunch and the creation if new US schools kicks the IMG/FMGs out, so I guess that solves the problem.
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You are extremely close-minded. The students who go the Caribbean and excel in their studies (including doing extremely well on all the standardized tests) deserve just as much opportunity to compete and practice in the US. You don't have to worry about the "medical school rejects" taking your residency spots because the vast majority of those who aren't suited for medicine end up flunking out and never making it to residency anyway. Also, some of the most brilliant minds in medicine that you will encounter are FMGs who have come here and vastly improved many different treatment modalities.

And for the record, I'm not a proponent of Caribbean schools (and sure as hell think BMU is ridiculous), but I do believe in redemption - just because not everyone came out of the womb knowing they were going to blaze through life with the intent on becoming an MD at 24, doesn't mean those who do turn things around can't pursue their goals without being detested by people like you. Learn some humility.
 
sobored said:
You are extremely close-minded. The students who go the Caribbean and excel in their studies (including doing extremely well on all the standardized tests) deserve just as much opportunity to compete and practice in the US. You don't have to worry about the "medical school rejects" taking your residency spots because the vast majority of those who aren't suited for medicine end up flunking out and never making it to residency anyway. Also, some of the most brilliant minds in medicine that you will encounter are FMGs who have come here and vastly improved many different treatment modalities.

And for the record, I'm not a proponent of Caribbean schools (and sure as hell think BMU is ridiculous), but I do believe in redemption - just because not everyone came out of the womb knowing they were going to blaze through life with the intent on becoming an MD at 24, doesn't mean those who do turn things around can't pursue their goals without being detested by people like you. Learn some humility.
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Where did I specifically say Caribbean in my post? Regardless, I'm not going to waste my time arguing over what's been already said about the disadvantages of Caribbean schools and why that's terrible compared to being in the US (and there's no need to be sympathetic to these so-called "redeemed students" who willingly decided to go offshore despite reassessing their options domestically whether be it DO schools, SMPs/post-baccs, change in career plan etc). You can use the search function and absorb the thorough condemnation of such schools.
 
mcloaf said:
Eh, strictly enforcing exam security for preclinical exams doesn't really matter as far as I'm concerned. Yeah I guess if your school assigns AOA on preclinical grades you'd want the system to work, but generally it won't matter if you cheat your way through the first two years since you'll end up failing Step 1 anyway.
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Not exactly.
 
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