OPTI only...

[RIdoc11]

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here you go mr. futureDoctorrrr

go nuts!

 

[GraceEuphoria]

LOL...must be his dinner break 🙂

 

[deleted357625]

what is OPTI?

 

[DrMediterranean]

 

[GraceEuphoria]

👍

 

[MrNovember]

Where are the massive lists of OPTI's so I can decide which school I am going to? I am disappointed.

 

[Iliketoytles]

Oh boy... he's going to take this as a "personal attack". I feel it in ma bonezz.

You know what would be fun though? If we made this the most random, ridiculous thread on SDN... to truly illustrate how most of us feel about OPTI's (especially after the past couple days). Gotta start this off strong.

 

[jphwki82]

what is OPTI?

OPTI = Osteopathic Postdoctoral Training Institution

 

[Iliketoytles]

OPTI = Osteopathic Postdoctoral Training Institution

Are you really going to be "that guy"? ...Really?

 

[jphwki82]

Are you really going to be "that guy"? ...Really?

Just answering the poster's question. I could care less about the whole OPTI convo you pre-meds are going back and forth about. I'm perfectly content with my residency options after I graduate.

 

[Iliketoytles]

Just answering the poster's question. I could give care less about the whole OPTI convo you pre-meds are going back and forth about. I'm perfectly content with my residency options after I graduate.

Just messin' with ya. 🙂

 

[jphwki82]

Just messin' with ya. 🙂

It is all good.

 

[GraceEuphoria]

Just answering the poster's question. I could care less about the whole OPTI convo you pre-meds are going back and forth about. I'm perfectly content with my residency options after I graduate.

Fortunately it only seems to be one pre-med who is so dissatisfied with things..so far, at least. Who knows what forces will rise from within SDN now that everyone has been so thoroughly convinced to change their opinions...

 

[DrMediterranean]

Why are u guys ganging up on FutureDoctorrrr.... I like him.
My school's OPTI > Your school's OPTI

 

[DocEspana]

Hey! OPTIs are vital! You guys should all agree with him and see the validity of his arguments. He makes great points in every single friggen comment he makes on every single friggen post. It's so you cannot go more then three replies without knowing he has a vital opinion on OPTI relevance.

(Now that I decided to take up his crusade for OPTIs, I can be a lightning rod on the forums. A force... OF EEEVIL!)

THEN CASTLE GREYSKULL WILL BE MINE!
now I just need to find my beastman.

 

[TeamZissou]

Bah that's a couple minutes of my life I'll never get back. Let me get this straight, I don't know if you guys have a lot of spare time on your hands or just like watching your post counts go up. But either way this thread shouldn't even be here. Let it die

 

[DrMediterranean]

Hey! OPTIs are vital! You guys should all agree with him and see the validity of his arguments. He makes great points in every single friggen comment he makes on every single friggen post. It's so you cannot go more then three replies without knowing he has a vital opinion on OPTI relevance.

(Now that I decided to take up his crusade for OPTIs, I can be a lightning rod on the forums. A force... OF EEEVIL!)

THEN CASTLE GREYSKULL WILL BE MINE!
now I just need to find my beastman.

+1
While I thought this thread was hilarious, I gotta agree with DocE. Lots of what he's saying is relevant -- especially with the coming residency crunch between 2016-2020. I just think he may have said it the wrong way and emotions were stirred up with lots of people involved defending their schools.

 

[Iliketoytles]

+1
While I thought this thread was hilarious, I gotta agree with DocE. Lots of what he's saying is relevant -- especially with the coming residency crunch between 2016-2020. I just think he may have said it the wrong way and emotions were stirred up with lots of people involved defending their schools.

I think almost everyone who commented on the OPTI topic had something valid in what they were saying. Nobody (I think) said Futuredoctorrr was completely wrong about his take on OPTI's giving leverage to students who go to the same school it's being sponsored at. This is logical... I think we all knew this from the beginning.

The main issues have become so redundantly annoying. I'm just going to lay them all out here (for me, at least):

1. OPTI's should be the absolute PRIORITY when deciding to go to a DO school. - This is just silly. There are a lot of people who feel a comfortable environment gives them the best chance to do well in class, and consequently the board exams. If someone doesn't feel comfortable at NOVA, but does at KCUMB (just using these schools as examples... don't kill me for it)... how can they expect to have a positive learning experience and do their best to be at the top of their class? Again... this may not apply to everyone, but it certainly is a factor. Also, people have regional biases which are IMPORTANT. I'm not going into this, as I've done it in another thread. But if you have a family, house, and support system around you in a city that has a medical school... you'll want to go to that medical school no matter what its OPTI looks like.

2. The exaggeration that OPTI's = automatic match - Someone who is top 5% of their class with great board scores is going to out-match someone who is top 30% with mediocre board scores. This bias for schools to match students from their own school can only be stretched so far. If NOVA (for example) has a choice between a stellar student from KCUMB, or an average student from it's very own NOVA... I would think they would realistically choose the KCUMB student.

3. Lower OPTIs mean the school doesn't care about it's osteopathic students. - Out of all these issues, this one bothers me the most. There may even be some truth in the statement... but what annoys me is how someone can tell people that the school they are excited to attend does not care about them, simply because of their OPTI. It's ridiculous.

I enjoy reading how excited people are about the schools they are planning to go to, and for someone to come in and say "yeah... that school you're exciting about going to next year? Doesn't care about you. At all." is simply a jerk thing to do. It doesn't affect me one bit, but I think people are just turned off by the negative attitude, despite how true it may be. I'm a realistic person, and like people who are real and blunt about the truth even if I don't agree with it. BUT, there's a time for real-talk, and there's a time to keep one's mouth shut and just be happy for someone who fulfilled their dream of GOING to medschool... even if it means them being blinded by ignorance for whatever reason. Especially since what school someone else is attending has no direct, adverse affect on any of us.

Sorry for the rant... just needed to get that out there.

 

[DrMediterranean]

I think almost everyone who commented on the OPTI topic had something valid in what they were saying. Nobody (I think) said Futuredoctorrr was completely wrong about his take on OPTI's giving leverage to students who go to the same school it's being sponsored at. This is logical... I think we all knew this from the beginning.

The main issues have become so redundantly annoying. I'm just going to lay them all out here (for me, at least):

1. OPTI's should be the absolute PRIORITY when deciding to go to a DO school. - This is just silly. There are a lot of people who feel a comfortable environment gives them the best chance to do well in class, and consequently the board exams. If someone doesn't feel comfortable at NOVA, but does at KCUMB (just using these schools as examples... don't kill me for it)... how can they expect to have a positive learning experience and do their best to be at the top of their class? Again... this may not apply to everyone, but it certainly is a factor. Also, people have regional biases which are IMPORTANT. I'm not going into this, as I've done it in another thread. But if you have a family, house, and support system around you in a city that has a medical school... you'll want to go to that medical school no matter what its OPTI looks like.

2. The exaggeration that OPTI's = automatic match - Someone who is top 5% of their class with great board scores is going to out-match someone who is top 30% with mediocre board scores. This bias for schools to match students from their own school can only be stretched so far. If NOVA (for example) has a choice between a stellar student from KCUMB, or an average student from it's very own NOVA... I would think they would realistically choose the KCUMB student.

3. Lower OPTIs mean the school doesn't care about it's osteopathic students. - Out of all these issues, this one bothers me the most. There may even be some truth in the statement... but what annoys me is how someone can tell people that the school they are excited to attend does not care about them, simply because of their OPTI. It's ridiculous.

I enjoy reading how excited people are about the schools they are planning to go to, and for someone to come in and say "yeah... that school you're exciting about going to next year? Doesn't care about you. At all." is simply a jerk thing to do. It doesn't affect me one bit, but I think people are just turned off by the negative attitude, despite how true it may be. I'm a realistic person, and like people who are real and blunt about the truth even if I don't agree with it. BUT, there's a time for real-talk, and there's a time to keep one's mouth shut and just be happy for someone who fulfilled their dream of GOING to medschool... even if it means them being blinded by ignorance for whatever reason. Especially since what school someone else is attending has no direct, adverse affect on any of us.

Sorry for the rant... just needed to get that out there.

I see what you're saying man. Maybe he said things the wrong way and didn't realize how offensive he was being towards some of you guys. Obviously he's just passionate about his views. I think everyone here is on some level of agreement, anyways. Let's all be cool and not make this so personal anymore.

 

[rafman]

I think almost everyone who commented on the OPTI topic had something valid in what they were saying. Nobody (I think) said Futuredoctorrr was completely wrong about his take on OPTI's giving leverage to students who go to the same school it's being sponsored at. This is logical... I think we all knew this from the beginning.

The main issues have become so redundantly annoying. I'm just going to lay them all out here (for me, at least):

1. OPTI's should be the absolute PRIORITY when deciding to go to a DO school. - This is just silly. There are a lot of people who feel a comfortable environment gives them the best chance to do well in class, and consequently the board exams. If someone doesn't feel comfortable at NOVA, but does at KCUMB (just using these schools as examples... don't kill me for it)... how can they expect to have a positive learning experience and do their best to be at the top of their class? Again... this may not apply to everyone, but it certainly is a factor. Also, people have regional biases which are IMPORTANT. I'm not going into this, as I've done it in another thread. But if you have a family, house, and support system around you in a city that has a medical school... you'll want to go to that medical school no matter what its OPTI looks like.

2. The exaggeration that OPTI's = automatic match - Someone who is top 5% of their class with great board scores is going to out-match someone who is top 30% with mediocre board scores. This bias for schools to match students from their own school can only be stretched so far. If NOVA (for example) has a choice between a stellar student from KCUMB, or an average student from it's very own NOVA... I would think they would realistically choose the KCUMB student.

3. Lower OPTIs mean the school doesn't care about it's osteopathic students. - Out of all these issues, this one bothers me the most. There may even be some truth in the statement... but what annoys me is how someone can tell people that the school they are excited to attend does not care about them, simply because of their OPTI. It's ridiculous.

I enjoy reading how excited people are about the schools they are planning to go to, and for someone to come in and say "yeah... that school you're exciting about going to next year? Doesn't care about you. At all." is simply a jerk thing to do. It doesn't affect me one bit, but I think people are just turned off by the negative attitude, despite how true it may be. I'm a realistic person, and like people who are real and blunt about the truth even if I don't agree with it. BUT, there's a time for real-talk, and there's a time to keep one's mouth shut and just be happy for someone who fulfilled their dream of GOING to medschool... even if it means them being blinded by ignorance for whatever reason. Especially since what school someone else is attending has no direct, adverse affect on any of us.

Sorry for the rant... just needed to get that out there.

Very well said bro! Lets all just be happy that we got into medical school!! Our dreams are coming true!!!!!!

 

[SoulinNeed]

This is the first I've heard of this. What is the significance of OPTI? What does it do?

 

[donkeykong1]

I'm kind of getting tired of this nonsense. If people want to genuinely read up on OPTIs. Read what the JAOA has to say for a full description:

http://www.jaoa.org/content/104/11/479.full.pdf

Whether you like it or not the expansion of the OPTI network at osteopathic institutions are vital for our future as DOs. The fact that one school has a more expansive OPTI over another is not really an indictement on the school not caring for its students rather it displays the inability of the COM to create a network of residencies within its clinical sites. Now this can be due to having mostly small community hospitals or clinics that are not suited for OGME accreditation by the AOA for whatever reason like low patient volume, or the faculty isnt just there in numbers.

Now having Rads,ortho,derm,optha,surg residencies within your school's OPTI does give you a leg up. Most of these specialties take on only 1-2 residents each year, and having the advantage of rotating with a site attending starting your 3rd year and building a relationship with them goes a longer distance than a greater comlex score. The advantage is lessened with the lesser cometitive specialties, although having a large OPTI gives you more freedom and peace of when it comes to match day.