Reading some of the recent threads about getting into ortho (Griffin, and others) has me concerned about the lack of perspective that some of the people that frequent these boards have. What I mean is that at the end of the day Ortho/OS/Endo or whatever the specialty du joir is...when it all comes down to it it's a JOB! What that means is that no matter how bad you want to pursue one of these specialties; at the end of the day you will wish that you could have spent it doing something else. When I was a dental student (I graduated D-School 2001) I had a friend that put all of her eggs into the ortho basket. She essentially put her life on hold by sacrificing relationships, friendships, experiences etc. in order to get into an orthodontic residency. Where is she now; She graduated from one of the top orthodontic programs in the country, works in a private practice seeing 100+ patients a day, makes less money than my GP wife, has NO friends, has no significant other, and has NO prospect of having a "normal" family life...she is pathetically alone and knows it. Was being an orthodontist worth it? Don't get me wrong, I have been a private practice orthodontist for 2 years and I really like my job. However, at the end of the day I would rather be fishing, snowboarding, hunting, or just sitting on my ass watching TV instead of being at work. Being an orthodontist, owning your own practice is not utopia...it's WORK. You have WAY more staff than your GP buddies and guess what...working with all of those women and keeping them happy is a bitch! By the way if you don't like kissing ass you should reconsider being an orthodontist since it's your most important job skill. You won't sit down and mow down teeth but you'll be puckering up to Mom and Dad and in between that you will be on the phone with referring Doc's kissing brown starfish. I have a great job. But the moral of all this is just to be happy and realize that the grass is always greener. Don't kill yourself trying to get 99 on Part I, don't sacrifice friendships for that "A" in General Path...etc. When it all comes down to it you could be perfectly happy being a GP. B.