Osteopathic Anesthesiology

[Atlas]

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Lately, much of the discussion I've read on SDN has been about the competitiveness of DO residencies as opposed to MD ones. This got me to think "What about DO anesthesiology programs?" Obviously, they must be less competitive than their MD counterparts for obvious reasons...one of them being fewer applicants. How does anesthesia compare? Can anyone tell me about Doctors Hospital (Columbus, OH) or SouthPointe in Cleveland? I'm going to OUCOM in the fall and have been tossing around ideas of being a future gas-passer and I'm certainly interested in going the DO route, especially if it's attainable as an "average" DO student. Any info will be greatly apppreciated.

Atlas

 

[DrQuinn]

Even an "average" DO student can get into MD residencies.

That may change in the four years it will take you to get to the applicating part... so who knows.

The DO Anesthesia residencies are *relatively* not competitive.

There is a DO Anes residency where I did my cores. I think they had like 2 applicants last year.

Q, DO

 

[floweree]

Quinn,

2 applicants, is it just a horrific program?

 

[DrQuinn]

Nope. Community based, muhc like most of the DO programs...

Q

 

[IN2BATE]

Call really sucks.....................everyone stop coding at once!


Anyway.....................there was no need to go to DO anesthesia in the past years, b/c DO's were getting top MD places. Now it is worth looking at. The disadvantage is they are local DO hospitals which probably dont have great exposure to things like trauma or transplant. There are about 10 DO programs.....................from my research, the top ones seem to be Doctors Hospital (OH), POH (Michigan), and Oklahoma. These seem to be the biggest in numbers and pretty respectable hospitals DO wise. I matched MD so I never actually followed through applying to these.

Good Luck!
IN2BATE (pgy1...........ahh, DO internship!)
Future Gas Passer!

🙂 Everyone should start their day with a nice hit of nitrous!

 

[DD214_DOC]

So DO residencies are more or less worthless?

 

[rooster1234]

MD Anesthesia- Did you pass tep I and II?
DO Anesthesia- Do you have a pulse (Not required unless you are a FMG)

Don't worry about it yet, just enjoy medical school.

 

[ussdfiant]

Originally posted by rooster1234

DO Anesthesia- Do you have a pulse (Not required unless you are a FMG)

FMGs are not eligible to apply to DO residencies.

 

[IN2BATE]

ya, i agree..........................i dont think FMG can apply to DO program.


Good point.

 

[doc0875]

In regards to residency at Doctors Hospital in Columbus, Ohio: avoid it if at all possible. Their programs and reputation have really plummeted in recent years. Before anyone decides to train at Doctors Hospital, ask the DME (Kirk Hilliard, D.O.) about the law suits he and the hospital have had against them. One in particular was a guy named Vern Reynolds, D.O. who matched there and then they decided to pull his offer after it was official. He sued them. An ex-surgery resident (female) has sued them too, for sexual discrimination I believe. They recently terminated a pediatric resident just two months short of graduation from the entire residency (because of suuposed performance problems, contract or not!). Finally, look in the back of "The D.O." magazine last month and note the ad for Doctors Hospital looking for residents in almost every specialty. Go elsewhere, trust me.

doc0875

 

[gas-x]

Don't go DO anesth at all costs. switch fields before you have to go toward that route. you'll be nothing more than a generalist. these programs are very small and the case load and pathology is minimal at best. it's like taking the SATs after memorizing only the letter 'A' section.

PLEASE don't do it. i wouldn't wish it on my own enemy...maybe.

 

[DrQuinn]

Gas-x is likely right. The DO programs are at very small hospitals with very simple surgeries. Even though they ship you out for your OB Anesthesia and what not... your home base has very limited pathology.

MD Anesthesia is not super competitive (it is GETTING competitive). Shoot for that.

Q, DO

 

[OzDDS]

FMGs are not eligible to apply to DO residencies.

http://www.anaesthesia.uwa.edu.au/employment/info.html Read what it says at the bottom regarding FMGs. This could be one of the downsides to DO I think, if you wanted to do fellowships or training outside the US.

 

[DrFeelgoodDO]

http://www.anaesthesia.uwa.edu.au/employment/info.html Read what it says at the bottom regarding FMGs. This could be one of the downsides to DO I think, if you wanted to do fellowships or training outside the US.

If you want to train outside the US, then be an MD. Otherwise, who wants to go all the way to Australia for a fellowship? Plus, things are changing really quickly....for example, DOs have full practicing authority in Ontario, Canada. The rest of Canada is province dependent....and there are a bunch of countries that have no restrictions with the proper credentials. Just my 2 cents....