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So its past mid July. I feel like all the programs are pretty much done and whatever interviews have been given are pretty much what you're gonna get.. maybe one more and that too probably because of a cancellation or something.



So coming from neurology, I have 8 interviews with 7 of programs participating in the match. These programs account for a total of 33 positions through the match......... What are my chances!?!?
 
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Yea, by now you pretty much have the interviews you are going to get, unless someone cancelled and they invite you. So I'm not accepting any more interviews past this point (honestly, I wouldn't want to interview somewhere where they didn't really want me at first anyways).

I think with 7 interviews your chances are pretty good, unless you are an unbelievably unlikeable person 😉. It all depends on how you think you did during interviews or how the programs felt about you at this point.

Good luck!
 
Paindoc9 said:
So I'm not accepting any more interviews past this point (honestly, I wouldn't want to interview somewhere where they didn't really want me at first anyways).
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I gotta disagree on that point. Maybe in the past that was more true. But now with ERAS, programs are getting slammed with applications (over 250 apps per spot at some places). The difference between getting an interview last minute vs earlier isn't necessarily that big and is hugely subjective and can be as simple as "applicant A is from our state and applicant B isn't, let's give the invite to A." I wouldn't waste the opportunity to show a program the person instead of the paper.
 
Until now I have not heard anyone has received interviews from the following programs. Please update this list if you or someone you know have already got interviews from any of them.
University of Alabama
University of California (Irvine)
Jackson Memorial Hospital
University of Mississippi
Washington University
Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai/St Luke's-Roosevelt
University of Cincinnati
Allegheny General Hospital-Western Pennsylvania
University of Texas Southwestern
University of Texas Medical Branch
Scott and White Memorial
University of Vermont
Virginia Mason
University of South Florida Morsani
University of Louisville
Rutgers Robert Wood Johnson
Ohio State
 
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The following have all sent invites:

University of Washington
Case Western Reserve
University of Oklahoma
University of Pennsylvania
VA Greater Los Angeles
 
Loyolla has sent out invites - from my email a couple weeks ago there were a TON of dates.

Has anyone heard from UTSW?
 
Alright, let me update the list:

INTERVIEWS:
Dartmouth 2/23 (email)
Emory 2/25, 3/6 (email)
Cedar Sinai 2/26 (email)
Cook County 2/26 (email)
Maryland 3/2 (email)
New Mexico 3/7 (telephone)
Iowa 3/17
Toledo 3/23 (email)
UC Davis 4/1 (email)
UVA 4/1 (email)
Johns Hopkins 4/13 (email)
University of Washington 4/16, 6/9 (email)
Rush 4/23 (email)
Tufts Baystate 4/23 (email)
UCSD 4/24, 5/7 (email)
UNC 4/24 (email)
UTHSCSA 4/28 (email)
Northwestern 4/29 (phone)
Arizona 4/29 (email)
University of Rochester 4/30 (email)
Thomas Jefferson 5/6 (phone)
UChicago 5/12, 6/29 (email)
UAB 5/15
Georgia 5/15
Mount Sinai 5/15 (email)
Wisconsin (unaccredited) 5/15 (email)
SUNY Upstate ??
Columbia 5/20
Beth Israel Deaconess 5/20, 5/25 (email)
Stanford 5/19, 6/4 (email)
Cornell 5/19
UCSF 5/27 (email)
University of Pittsburgh 5/27 (email)
MCW 5/28 (ERAS)
Easter Virginia 6/5 (email)
LSU 6/4 (email)
University of Nebraska 6/9 (email), 6/
Mayo 6/16 (email)
University of Minnesota 6/17 (email)
Mayo-Jacksonville 6/22 (e-mail)
University of Florida 6/23 (email)
Albert Einstein/Montefiore 6/24 (email)
Cleveland Clinic 6/25 (email)
Duke 6/25 (email)
Penn 6/26 (email)
Cooper 6/26 (email)
University of Michigan 6/29 (email)
VCU 6/30 (email)
USF (call)
MD Anderson 7/2 (email)
MGH 7/6 (email)
BWH 7/6 (email)
OHSU 7/7 (email)
Wayne State/DMC 7/8 (email)
NYU (7/
Utah 7/15 (email)
Loma Linda University 7/15 (email)
JFK 7/15 (call)
Case Western Reserve
University of Oklahoma
University of Pennsylvania
VA Greater Los Angeles 7/20 (email)
Wash U
South Florida
UC irvine
Loyollla


REJECTIONS:
Medical college of Ga Augusta 3/15 (email)
Mayo Clinic Arizona 3/23 (email)
Iowa 4/6 (email)
Wake Forest 5/4, 5/6 (email)
Vanderbilt 5/4 (mail)
John Hopkins 5/6, 5/29 (email)
Dartmouth 5/6 (email)
Utah 5/11 (email)
New Mexico 5/15 (email)
Medical College of Wisconsin 5/29 (email)
Northwestern 5/29 (email)
Cornell 6/10 (email)
Stanford 6/12 6/15 (email)
Colorado 6/15 (email)
University of Southern California 6/17 (email)
Beth Israel deaconess 6/22
UIC 6/25 (email)
Arizona 6/29 (email)
Cincinnati Childrens 7/1 (email)
OHSU 7/2 (email)

PROGRAMS LIKELY HAVE NOT SENT OUT INVITATIONS:
University of Alabama
Jackson Memorial Hospital
University of Mississippi
Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai/St Luke's-Roosevelt
University of Cincinnati
Allegheny General Hospital-Western Pennsylvania
University of Texas Southwestern
University of Texas Medical Branch
Scott and White Memorial
University of Vermont
Virginia Mason
University of Louisville
Rutgers Robert Wood Johnson
Ohio State
 
Thanks for compiling the list. I have applied at only 1 of the programs who have not gotten back yet. So it is safe to say that it is the end of invite season for me.
 
INTERVIEWS:
Dartmouth 2/23 (email)
Emory 2/25, 3/6 (email)
Cedar Sinai 2/26 (email)
Cook County 2/26 (email)
Maryland 3/2 (email)
New Mexico 3/7 (telephone)
Iowa 3/17
Toledo 3/23 (email)
UC Davis 4/1 (email)
UVA 4/1 (email)
Johns Hopkins 4/13 (email)
University of Washington 4/16, 6/9 (email)
Rush 4/23 (email)
Tufts Baystate 4/23 (email)
UCSD 4/24, 5/7 (email)
UNC 4/24 (email)
UTHSCSA 4/28 (email)
Northwestern 4/29 (phone)
Arizona 4/29 (email)
University of Rochester 4/30 (email)
Thomas Jefferson 5/6 (phone)
UChicago 5/12, 6/29 (email)
UAB 5/15
Georgia 5/15
Mount Sinai 5/15 (email)
Wisconsin (unaccredited) 5/15 (email)
SUNY Upstate ??
Columbia 5/20
Beth Israel Deaconess 5/20, 5/25 (email)
Stanford 5/19, 6/4 (email)
Cornell 5/19
UCSF 5/27 (email)
University of Pittsburgh 5/27 (email)
MCW 5/28 (ERAS)
Easter Virginia 6/5 (email)
LSU 6/4 (email)
University of Nebraska 6/9 (email), 6/
Mayo 6/16 (email)
University of Minnesota 6/17 (email)
Mayo-Jacksonville 6/22 (e-mail)
University of Florida 6/23 (email)
Albert Einstein/Montefiore 6/24 (email)
Cleveland Clinic 6/25 (email)
Duke 6/25 (email)
Penn 6/26 (email)
Cooper 6/26 (email)
University of Michigan 6/29 (email)
VCU 6/30 (email)
USF (call)
MD Anderson 7/2 (email)
MGH 7/6 (email)
BWH 7/6 (email)
OHSU 7/7 (email)
Wayne State/DMC 7/8 (email)
NYU (7/
Utah 7/15 (email)
Loma Linda University 7/15 (email)
JFK 7/15 (call)
Case Western Reserve
University of Oklahoma
University of Pennsylvania
VA Greater Los Angeles 7/20 (email)
Wash U
South Florida
UC irvine
Loyollla
Wake Forest 7/20 (email)

REJECTIONS:
Medical college of Ga Augusta 3/15 (email)
Mayo Clinic Arizona 3/23 (email)
Iowa 4/6 (email)
Wake Forest 5/4, 5/6 (email)
Vanderbilt 5/4 (mail)
John Hopkins 5/6, 5/29 (email)
Dartmouth 5/6 (email)
Utah 5/11 (email)
New Mexico 5/15 (email)
Medical College of Wisconsin 5/29 (email)
Northwestern 5/29 (email)
Cornell 6/10 (email)
Stanford 6/12 6/15 (email)
Colorado 6/15 (email)
University of Southern California 6/17 (email)
Beth Israel deaconess 6/22
UIC 6/25 (email)
Arizona 6/29 (email)
Cincinnati Childrens 7/1 (email)
OHSU 7/2 (email)

PROGRAMS LIKELY HAVE NOT SENT OUT INVITATIONS:
University of Alabama
Jackson Memorial Hospital
University of Mississippi
Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai/St Luke's-Roosevelt
University of Cincinnati
Allegheny General Hospital-Western Pennsylvania
University of Texas Southwestern
University of Texas Medical Branch
Scott and White Memorial
University of Vermont
Virginia Mason
University of Louisville
Rutgers Robert Wood Johnson
Ohio State
 
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Just to clean it up

INTERVIEWS:
Dartmouth 2/23 (email)
Emory 2/25, 3/6 (email)
Cedar Sinai 2/26 (email)
Cook County 2/26 (email)
Maryland 3/2 (email)
New Mexico 3/7 (telephone)
Iowa 3/17
Toledo 3/23 (email)
UC Davis 4/1 (email)
UVA 4/1 (email)
Johns Hopkins 4/13 (email)
University of Washington 4/16, 6/9 (email)
Rush 4/23 (email)
Tufts Baystate 4/23 (email)
UCSD 4/24, 5/7 (email)
UNC 4/24 (email)
UTHSCSA 4/28 (email)
Northwestern 4/29 (phone)
Arizona 4/29 (email)
University of Rochester 4/30 (email)
Thomas Jefferson 5/6 (phone)
UChicago 5/12, 6/29 (email)
UAB 5/15
Georgia 5/15
Mount Sinai 5/15 (email)
Wisconsin (unaccredited) 5/15 (email)
SUNY Upstate ??
Columbia 5/20
Beth Israel Deaconess 5/20, 5/25 (email)
Stanford 5/19, 6/4 (email)
Cornell 5/19
UCSF 5/27 (email)
University of Pittsburgh 5/27 (email)
MCW 5/28 (ERAS)
Easter Virginia 6/5 (email)
LSU 6/4 (email)
University of Nebraska 6/9 (email), 6/
Mayo 6/16 (email)
University of Minnesota 6/17 (email)
Mayo-Jacksonville 6/22 (e-mail)
University of Florida 6/23 (email)
Albert Einstein/Montefiore 6/24 (email)
Cleveland Clinic 6/25 (email)
Duke 6/25 (email)
Penn 6/26 (email)
Cooper 6/26 (email)
University of Michigan 6/29 (email)
VCU 6/30 (email)
USF (call)
MD Anderson 7/2 (email)
MGH 7/6 (email)
BWH 7/6 (email)
OHSU 7/7 (email)
Wayne State/DMC 7/8 (email)
NYU (7/
Utah 7/15 (email)
Loma Linda University 7/15 (email)
JFK 7/15 (call)
Case Western Reserve
University of Oklahoma
University of Pennsylvania
VA Greater Los Angeles 7/20 (email)
Wash U
South Florida
UC irvine
Loyollla
Wake Forest 7/20 (email)
University of Miami/Jackson Memorial
University of Cincinnati
UTSW


REJECTIONS:
Medical college of Ga Augusta 3/15 (email)
Mayo Clinic Arizona 3/23 (email)
Iowa 4/6 (email)
Wake Forest 5/4, 5/6 (email)
Vanderbilt 5/4 (mail)
John Hopkins 5/6, 5/29 (email)
Dartmouth 5/6 (email)
Utah 5/11 (email)
New Mexico 5/15 (email)
Medical College of Wisconsin 5/29 (email)
Northwestern 5/29 (email)
Cornell 6/10 (email)
Stanford 6/12 6/15 (email)
Colorado 6/15 (email)
University of Southern California 6/17 (email)
Beth Israel deaconess 6/22
UIC 6/25 (email)
Arizona 6/29 (email)
Cincinnati Childrens 7/1 (email)
OHSU 7/2 (email)
 
INTERVIEWS:
Dartmouth 2/23 (email)
Emory 2/25, 3/6 (email)
Cedar Sinai 2/26 (email)
Cook County 2/26 (email)
Maryland 3/2 (email)
New Mexico 3/7 (telephone)
Iowa 3/17
Toledo 3/23 (email)
UC Davis 4/1 (email)
UVA 4/1 (email)
Johns Hopkins 4/13 (email)
University of Washington 4/16, 6/9 (email)
Rush 4/23 (email)
Tufts Baystate 4/23 (email)
UCSD 4/24, 5/7 (email)
UNC 4/24 (email)
UTHSCSA 4/28 (email)
Northwestern 4/29 (phone)
Arizona 4/29 (email)
University of Rochester 4/30 (email)
Thomas Jefferson 5/6 (phone)
UChicago 5/12, 6/29 (email)
UAB 5/15
Georgia 5/15
Mount Sinai 5/15 (email)
Wisconsin (unaccredited) 5/15 (email)
SUNY Upstate ??
Columbia 5/20
Beth Israel Deaconess 5/20, 5/25 (email)
Stanford 5/19, 6/4 (email)
Cornell 5/19
UCSF 5/27 (email)
University of Pittsburgh 5/27 (email)
MCW 5/28 (ERAS)
Easter Virginia 6/5 (email)
LSU 6/4 (email)
University of Nebraska 6/9 (email), 6/
Mayo 6/16 (email)
University of Minnesota 6/17 (email)
Mayo-Jacksonville 6/22 (e-mail)
University of Florida 6/23 (email)
Albert Einstein/Montefiore 6/24 (email)
Cleveland Clinic 6/25 (email)
Duke 6/25 (email)
Penn 6/26 (email)
Cooper 6/26 (email)
University of Michigan 6/29 (email)
VCU 6/30 (email)
USF (call)
MD Anderson 7/2 (email)
MGH 7/6 (email)
BWH 7/6 (email)
OHSU 7/7 (email)
Wayne State/DMC 7/8 (email)
NYU (7/
Utah 7/15 (email)
Loma Linda University 7/15 (email)
JFK 7/15 (call)
Case Western Reserve
University of Oklahoma
University of Pennsylvania
VA Greater Los Angeles 7/20 (email)
Wash U
South Florida
UC irvine
Loyollla
Wake Forest 7/20 (email)
University of Miami/Jackson Memorial
University of Cincinnati
UTSW
UTMB

REJECTIONS:
Medical college of Ga Augusta 3/15 (email)
Mayo Clinic Arizona 3/23 (email)
Iowa 4/6 (email)
Wake Forest 5/4, 5/6 (email)
Vanderbilt 5/4 (mail)
John Hopkins 5/6, 5/29 (email)
Dartmouth 5/6 (email)
Utah 5/11 (email)
New Mexico 5/15 (email)
Medical College of Wisconsin 5/29 (email)
Northwestern 5/29 (email)
Cornell 6/10 (email)
Stanford 6/12 6/15 (email)
Colorado 6/15 (email)
University of Southern California 6/17 (email)
Beth Israel deaconess 6/22
UIC 6/25 (email)
Arizona 6/29 (email)
Cincinnati Childrens 7/1 (email)
OHSU 7/2 (email)
Vermont 7/31
 
I think it's safe to say whatever interviews you have now are all that you're going to get and any programs you haven't heard from are probably not considering applications for interviews any more
 
I did not meet many applicants from those institutions with a big name pain fellowship at my interviews. Does that mean many of them have already been promised a position from their home programs? does that explain why some big name programs only interview a small number of applicants?
 
Anyone getting feedback from programs asking you to rank them high? I only had one program tell me to do that but iheard from past years its very common for programs to contact interviewees they like anyone else hear of this?
 
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Nonphysiologic said:
Anyone getting feedback from programs asking you to rank them high? I only had one program tell me to do that but iheard from past years its very common for programs to contact interviewees they like anyone else hear of this?
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I've heard the entire range of responses. Been getting more "you'd be a great fit for our program." I have received a few "we will be ranking you highly." I haven't heard anything about "you are ranked to match." The other half are non-commital and generic. These responses are nice but it's all a game and won't affect how I do my rank.
 
Do you rank a program highly that didn't send you a reply vs one that did?

Anyone hear feedback from MD Anderson post interview?
 
Rank according to your preference. Match favors the applicant. Nice to know you're wanted but it shouldn't necessarily change your list. Nice to be wanted but if they want you, they'll rank you high whether you rank them first or last
 
Do you guys contact some PDs and let them know you rank them high? I feel it would not change anything, but I do not know if I should do it anyone.
 
RehabDr said:
Do you guys contact some PDs and let them know you rank them high? I feel it would not change anything, but I do not know if I should do it anyone.
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I think for the most part, it does not matter. A PD will likely not change their rank list based upon your list. And you can end up doing more harm than good (esp if you change your mind about your ranking last minute). Better to just keep this to yourself and let the match work itself out. You also may inadvertently come off needy/annoying. The only reason I would consider doing this is if I really had a geographic need to match at a specific program (eg. family issues, spouse job issues, etc.) But this should have already been discussed during your interview.

That being said, I have heard from at least 1 program that they would like to know if I will be ranking them high. This was a prominent program in the midwest that has only a few fellows. I imagine the thought process behind this is that there are probably plenty of qualified applicants and the PD's wish is to fill their program with fellows who genuinely want to be at their program and not fellows who are only going there because their other ranks fell through. Or maybe they were just curious.

Nonphysiologic said:
Anyone getting feedback from programs asking you to rank them high? I only had one program tell me to do that but iheard from past years its very common for programs to contact interviewees they like anyone else hear of this?
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I've heard back from 2 programs that I will be ranked to match. Although one is from my home institution on the West so that may not really count.

Good luck everyone, match is only ~1 mo away.
 
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