Path's lead is shrinking..

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So far we've ripped out the bathroom walls, found the wood rot and and carpenter ants, ripped out the rotted wood, removed the tub, extracted the fiberglass insulation, replaced the studs, cut the backerboard and cleaned the extracted tub.

It's been a full day.

No medicine tho... except a father-in-law's cut hand.

Just needed a band-aid, more's the pity.
 
did some posting in other forums today. I feel horrible and will post pad here a few times to make up for it.
 
Im gonna change my tag line.. New mantra.. a little lighter..

Unless you are the lead dog the view never changes.
 
Holy crap! He died?

"You think about Steve Irwin and you think of people who are invincible."

That's what I thought too--some sort of animal superhero in dorky shorts.

🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁
 
KentW said:
Crikey...what a way to go. 🙁
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Yeah, I think the only reported similar death was a 10 year old swimming in Corpus in the 60s. Basically sting rays sit on the bottom, half buried and are shy. If you step on them, they swing their tail up and leave the sting in your foot or ankle.

The 10 year old was swimming in shallows, presumably bodysurfing and got it in the chest for a pneumo. Presumably the same thing happened to Irwin. Poor guy.

Oh, BTW if you treat or are one of the the 1000 people who step on a sting ray each year. The toxin is thermolabile. Put the wound in 110 degree water for a few minutes and the pain will fade. Xray the foot to see if the sting is there (usually will be-it's cartalaginous and radioopaque). Since it has barbs to keep it in, you'll need to open the wound a little and extract it. Irrigate profusely, prophylaxsis for tetanus and bacteria. Salt water wounds get septic incredibly fast. Cover for non-cholerae vibrio.
 
Bent Aub said:
Holy crap! He died?

"You think about Steve Irwin and you think of people who are invincible."

That's what I thought too--some sort of animal superhero in dorky shorts.

🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁
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A discussion over the fate of Mr. Irwin......
My friend Brandon: i've been waiting for that
Me: I wasn't expecting a stingray
Brandon: kind of sad though
Brandon: yeah, neither was i...
Brandon: oh the irony...
Me: Yeah, I feel for his family
Brandon: killed by one of the least dangerous of the dangerous animals he fools with
Me: I always thought his heart was in the right place, that he really loved animals, but just that he was extremely reckless
Brandon: and yet manages to survive when he aggrevates poisonous snakes and large reptiles
Brandon: same here
Me: yeah, no ****
Brandon: he was actually one of my heroes
Me: It's a shame.....he seemed like a nice fella
Brandon: yeah
Brandon: for some reason i've always admired stupid, suicidal, pointless recklessness lol
Me: yeah, same here...
Brandon: that's the way you really should live, lol
Brandon: well, unless you have a family, lol
Me: yet you bitch (and so do I) when people who live like that find their way into our ED's and ambulances
Brandon: yes
Brandon: lol
Brandon: but there's something slightly more heroic about being bitten by a snake or clobbered by a bear than there is about creating a spud gun out of PVC
 
BKN said:
Yeah, I think the only reported similar death was a 10 year old swimming in Corpus in the 60s. Basically sting rays sit on the bottom, half buried and are shy. If you step on them, they swing their tail up and leave the sting in your foot or ankle.

The 10 year old was swimming in shallows, presumably bodysurfing and got it in the chest for a pneumo. Presumably the same thing happened to Irwin. Poor guy.

Oh, BTW if you treat or are one of the the 1000 people who step on a sting ray each year. The toxin is thermolabile. Put the wound in 110 degree water for a few minutes and the pain will fade. Xray the foot to see if the sting is there (usually will be-it's cartalaginous and radioopaque). Since it has barbs to keep it in, you'll need to open the wound a little and extract it. Irrigate profusely, prophylaxsis for tetanus and bacteria. Salt water wounds get septic incredibly fast. Cover for non-cholerae vibrio.
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BKN, correct me if I am wrong but I recall reading somewhere that the spine of a stingray is very fragile, and tends to break up when you try to extract it.......or perhaps that was sea urchin spines......Indiana isn't exactly a hotbed of marine animal envenomations (although I saw a penile amputation due to a snapping turtle once.....talk about "Crikey!")
 
Good morning everyone!!! Actually, it's afternoon, but I didn't feel like getting up on a day I didn't have to. Sleeping in and laying around is soooooooo relaxing.
 
Sad stuff. Good luck to his wife and kids.. its something I realize everyday I step into the ED.. Everyday is precious and shouldnt be taken for granted.
 
On a happier note.. Bball was cool we won one and lost one..
 
I did learn that i am way out of shape though.. time to get back on a routine..
 
Obviously the news folks arent the brightest but the reports I heard were that the tip of the ray "peirced his heart" sounds like tamponade and not Pneumothorax.. Not that it matters but just throwing it out there.
 
DropkickMurphy said:
BKN, correct me if I am wrong but I recall reading somewhere that the spine of a stingray is very fragile, and tends to break up when you try to extract it.......or perhaps that was sea urchin spines......Indiana isn't exactly a hotbed of marine animal envenomations (although I saw a penile amputation due to a snapping turtle once.....talk about "Crikey!")
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No, I've taken out a bunch of stings. Actually, you are talking about sea urchin spines. Another subject of which I'm sadly expert.

Back in the day (1981), While stationed in NW FL. MsBKN and I took a diving course on base. Up there the open water dives were all deep (60 feet). So the day after we get our cards we drive down to the keys and start having fun. On day 3 take a dive on a very shallow reef. The colors at 10 feet are just unbelievable and we're motoring around having a great time. Suddenly I hear a roaring noise and it gets very dark. Well, I was trained that meant you were about to get run over by a boat, so I jammed myself into the sea bottom and stayed there. The prop noise continued for a long time, but happily nohorrible pain. Finally, I raise my head and look to the side. I'm lying in 3 inches of water as is my bride. I tap her shoulder, she turns to me and gives the perfect WTF? look magnified through her face mask.

We had swum up the reef to the surface. The noise and the dark was the surf. 😳 Then the surge pushed us over the reef and off into the water on the other side. In the process I took about 20 urchin spines in the hand and 5 in the knee. They hurt pretty good, but they are not venomous. We couldn't get back over, the dive boat captain had to motor around to pick us up, muttering about how he had to rescue newbies every week. I got back on board and spent my time :barf:ing.

The base dive club gave us a special reef diver's award, which consisted of a sea urchin with spines removed and a pair of tweezers. 😳 :laugh:

And yes, you can't get them out easily. Probably only worth trying if they enter a joint.
 
BKN said:
No, I've taken out a bunch of stings. Actually, you are talking about sea urchin spines. Another subject of which I'm sadly expert.

Back in the day (1981), While stationed in NW FL. MsBKN and I took a diving course on base. Up there the open water dives were all deep (60 feet). So the day after we get our cards we drive down to the keys and start having fun. On day 3 take a dive on a very shallow reef. The colors at 10 feet are just unbelievable and we're motoring around having a great time. Suddenly I hear a roaring noise and it gets very dark. Well, I was trained that meant you were about to get run over by a boat, so I jammed myself into the sea bottom and stayed there. The prop noise continued for a long time, but happily nohorrible pain. Finally, I raise my head and look to the side. I'm lying in 3 inches of water as is my bride. I tap her shoulder, she turns to me and gives the perfect WTF? look magnified through her face mask.

We had swum up the reef to the surface. The noise and the dark was the surf. 😳 Then the surge pushed us over the reef and off into the water on the other side. In the process I took about 20 urchin spines in the hand and 5 in the knee. They hurt pretty good, but they are not venomous. We couldn't get back over, the dive boat captain had to motor around to pick us up, muttering about how he had to rescue newbies every week. I got back on board and spent my time :barf:ing.

The base dive club gave us a special reef diver's award, which consisted of a sea urchin with spines removed and a pair of tweezers. 😳 :laugh:

And yes, you can't get them out easily. Probably only worth trying if they enter a joint.
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Ow, ow, oww.......
 
On that note me and the OL are gonna take some scuba classes here in the desert and hopefully get to dive in mexico soon..
 
EctopicFetus said:
On that note me and the OL are gonna take some scuba classes here in the desert and hopefully get to dive in mexico soon..
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Just remember, whatever you do, do not hold your breath. :laugh:

-Your friendly (now former as of midnight last night) neighborhood fire department dive team leader.
 
dam*it all to h*ll. I am still sick. gah
 
Grrrr...blood drive time again. I get TIRED of being asked every 5 mins. Let's think about this:

I weigh EXACTLY 110 lbs, soaking wet, after my first few meals of the day.
My resting blood pressure is 90/60 or threreabouts (pulse = 60-70 bpm)
Do you people asking me to give blood REALLY think I can afford to give 1/5 of my circulating blood volume?
 
Oh, and ANOTHER rant.

If you are a guy in the day and age of facebook, Google, and Myspace then DON'T lie about your relationship status to a girl you want to take out on a date. She will surely facebook you AND most likely be able to see your full profile since you are in her metro area. She will then discover that your relationship status is listed as "In a Relationship" and that almost every comment on your wall is from your girlfriend.

There will NOT be a second date.
 
socuteMD said:
Oh, and ANOTHER rant.

If you are a guy in the day and age of facebook, Google, and Myspace then DON'T lie about your relationship status to a girl you want to take out on a date. She will surely facebook you AND most likely be able to see your full profile since you are in her metro area. She will then discover that your relationship status is listed as "In a Relationship" and that almost every comment on your wall is from your girlfriend.

There will NOT be a second date.
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Ouch! Depending on how confrontational you are, you could print up his facebook page and hand-deliver it to him.
 
OMG! I just booked a flight to North Carolina to see my lovely friends who I abandoned for medical school!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAPPY HAPPY DAY!
 
deuist said:
Ouch! Depending on how confrontational you are, you could print up his facebook page and hand-deliver it to him.
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Yeah, he's not worth the energy, though.

I more feel bad for her - but I'm not going ANYWHERE near that issue.
 
Party on people.. party on.. all is great here!
 
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