Patients 'wary of medical students'

[Yogi Bear]

looks like lee knew this all along when call sdn "studentdoctornetwork" (SDN) rather than "medicalstudentnetwork"..hehe (MSN)?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...s07.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/11/07/ixhome.html\\

Patients 'wary of medical students'
By Celia Hall, Medical Editor
(Filed: 07/11/2003)


Medical students' reputation for larking about may be putting patients off agreeing to their presence during consultations, a doctor says today.

Dr Hany George El-Sayeh, a specialist registrar in psychiatry from Leeds, says that calling them "trainee doctors" instead may be all that is needed.

"Surprisingly patients tend to accept a trainee's presence if they are addressed as student doctor or trainee doctor as opposed to medical student," he says in the British Medical Journal.

"Simple semantics may help quell patients' fears that they will be seen by a scruffy, disinterested youth who may well later report their intimacies in the bar."

Dr El-Sayeh also points out that medical students could do more to help themselves.

"Trainees could counteract stereotypes by making a greater effort to appear interested, smart and punctual, all in line with their new 'student doctor' status," he says.

He also calls for a system in teaching departments where all patients are warned that students may be present.

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[Gleevec]

Originally posted by Yogi Bear
looks like lee knew this all along when call sdn "studentdoctornetwork" (SDN) rather than "medicalstudentnetwork"..hehe (MSN)?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...s07.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/11/07/ixhome.html\\

Patients 'wary of medical students'
By Celia Hall, Medical Editor
(Filed: 07/11/2003)


Medical students' reputation for larking about may be putting patients off agreeing to their presence during consultations, a doctor says today.

Dr Hany George El-Sayeh, a specialist registrar in psychiatry from Leeds, says that calling them "trainee doctors" instead may be all that is needed.

"Surprisingly patients tend to accept a trainee's presence if they are addressed as student doctor or trainee doctor as opposed to medical student," he says in the British Medical Journal.

"Simple semantics may help quell patients' fears that they will be seen by a scruffy, disinterested youth who may well later report their intimacies in the bar."

Dr El-Sayeh also points out that medical students could do more to help themselves.

"Trainees could counteract stereotypes by making a greater effort to appear interested, smart and punctual, all in line with their new 'student doctor' status," he says.

He also calls for a system in teaching departments where all patients are warned that students may be present.

Good article. But I think the main problem is that "student doctors" are overworked. This is also true of residents and fellows, but they are referred to as "doctor," which connotes with the larger pool of physicians who are better able to perform due to improved hours and working conditions. Just my .02 cents though.

 

[Jeffy]

it makes a lot of sense. that's why i tell people that i am a receptionist instead of a secretary at my on-campus job. whatever though, they both make me sound like a nancy.

 

[thoffen]

This is a British article. Their system is entirely different than ours (most notably, they do not require a bachelor's degree). How is this article relevant to us?

 

[Drogba]

This is a British article. Their system is entirely different than ours (most notably, they do not require a bachelor's degree). How is this article relevant to us?

Our bachelors in french literature certainly put all the patients at ease.

 

[custard]

This is a British article. Their system is entirely different than ours (most notably, they do not require a bachelor's degree). How is this article relevant to us?

Uhh, because the term "medical student" is used here too?

 

[Julietcf14]

This is a British article. Their system is entirely different than ours (most notably, they do not require a bachelor's degree). How is this article relevant to us?

While you are right and their system might be different, this is really a psychology issue. I think the point is that people (British or American) percieve the terms differently. A Medical Student seems like some 22 year old punk who is no where near being a doctor and could drop out anyday taking you medical information with him. On the other hand, a doctor in training sounds more like someone who is close to finishing his degree. WE know there is no difference, but the general population has never been through the med school application process. Medical Students might as well be pre-med college freshman to them.

 

[45408]

This is a British article. Their system is entirely different than ours (most notably, they do not require a bachelor's degree). How is this article relevant to us?

How was it relevant to bump a post from four years ago?

 

[Mornien]

And in my opinion, anyone 'in training' or 'student doctor' (in this sense) makes me think of kids who are not actually anywhere near to being old enough to practice medicine or are completely incompetent.

 

[Tired]

Someone revived a 4 year old thread that had a total of three posts in it? Geez . . . .

 

[Drogba]

Someone revived a 4 year old thread that had a total of three posts in it? Geez . . . .

Seen worse.

 

[45408]

Seen worse.

link it up

 

[Drogba]

link it up

I didn't bookmarkt it

I saw a 5 year bump somewhere on these boards though.

 

[Depakote]

How was it relevant to bump a post from four years ago?

to that poster's credit. someone else bumped the thread with an off-topic post that was moved to another forum.

 

[thoffen]

to that poster's credit. someone else bumped the thread with an off-topic post that was moved to another forum.

Thanks...I didn't fish up this thread. I did a double take when I saw myself as the first poster in 4+ years.

 

[aaycee]

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